But source please. I haven't seen anything about post WW2 war crimes in Germany

Who saved half of Germany from Russian rule again?

If it's Soviets, then that doesn't change my mind cause Soviets are monsters

(It was the Americans)

Im on my phone right now.
But solviets rape germans and killed them after war.

But also US starved them. UN sent food for germans, but US denied it.

Yeah soviets shmoviets. Embargos aren't rape.

There was even statue made where soviet soldier rape germans.

Nice. Like I said Soviets are evil. They were an enemy of an enemy

I decided to adjust the influencer network report image to make it way more clear. Or rather, I made it reflect the author's actual intent:

https://imgur.com/a/qa1povF

Shit exposed

GOTEM

https://twitter.com/dailymail/status/1054509228969418752

https://twitter.com/jtsexkik/status/1054579938257526784

Lol. I got stress from 2016. But it's not because of Trump.

I got PTSD from winning too much. It all started November 2016.

the S in PTSD stands for Stress. Checkmates drumptards

stress is NOT PTSD

I know that.

on the other side, if i watched CNN and Colbert every day, i'd develop PTSD too

Hey guys, I'm a comedian. I'm here to make you laugh. We're all going to die and abortions are gonna be illegal. We'll literally be living in Handmaid's Tale within 3 years. Impeach drumpf.

*accepts award for best comedian*

Colbert is funny.

I remember the whole #CancelColbert because of racismsss.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/18/17989856/twitter-polarization-echo-chambers-social-media

ECHO CHAMBERS GOOD

TALKING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE ***FUCKING NAZIS*** BAD

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexMLeo/status/1054842247139807233

Nobody wants to grind self awareness xp anymore

Speaking of fake news.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CharachterP/with_replies

Who is this lovely character.

I love it.

Absolutely love it.

isn't that the guy who was behind the Steven Universe edits tumblr?

Please do not click Vox links. Let them starve. If you have to read their clickbait garbage, please use archive.is:
<http://archive.is/9cX1P>

"I want people to hear the opposing side to see if it creates an opportunity for dialogue, how could I achieve this"
Should I:
Subject them to a bot that does nothing but re-tweet their opposition's talking points over and over again
Have them actually talk to a human

Thankfully I chose the bot and now we can see that talking to people who have different views radicalizes republicans

“Is Twitter capable of providing the context where people can deliver the intimate, interpersonal, positive contact needed for this?” He asked. The question answers itself.

The study did not test for this. They tried one method and it failed. But it is vox, and vox will spin it hard left.

Heres a more accurate statement: "Did repeatedly exposing people to the talking points of the other side make them more moderate?" The answer is no.

I swear I read an article once about Vox or Slate or Huffpo demonizing archive links specifically for the reason you mentioned

Vox NPCs?

@Cѳςmѳиαцt i wouldnt exactly blame them on that

sure

so far as that Vox article, i do think it has some sort of merit

even in chats like this i don't see a lot of people changing minds, i usually only see a little bit of development over internet when people VC as there is something disarming about actually seeing, or talking to another person

short form 300 character tweets only gives enough room to re enforce baises most of the time, there isn't a lot of room for sympathizing with someone, its very fight-club ish

It was 140 before

I go to vox for their milder stuff like the border series, really enjoyed their presentation of Hong Kong where I came from

Just skip the ezra Klein stuff

i'd totally agree with wanting people to engage eachother rather then living in a echo chamber, just from past experience on long running (5 years or so now) even in paragraphs usually people don't start seeing eachothers side until like a 30 minutes or a hour into it, and in some cases flat at won't reach any grounds unless they VC. Twitter is like the opposite of that, funny enough so is 4chan but 4chan knows its full of shit and is just there for enjoyment 99% of the time not anything serious like what Twitter pretends it is

I mean, yes, dialogue is an important part of any society, especially one with democratic elements, but ultimately a disagreement might just boil down to irreconcilable axioms, and people can't agree.

At that point, the only real solution is tolerance or destruction.

Some differences cant be reconciled, that's why we come up with games like election. I call it a game because.... that's really what it is.

What does the text on bottom mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancellation_(mail)

Oh rip

some people are claiming that the cnn image was a 4chan fake

seems doubtful to me

Jim Acosta (@Acosta) Tweeted:
Photos of the bomb and package sent to CNN https://t.co/nBq3ArtChJ https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1055147149158219778?s=17

... why is he taking a picture of it casual-like?

he's either a moron or believes it is not real

how do you take a picture un-casually

so all "bombs" were casually found and none exploded ? what are they - professional bomb handlers or just lucky ? this is weird...

some pictures have professional intent, this one it's like he walked by and snapped a pic

/pol/ is turning this pic into a meme. it's great.

<https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/190665858>

<https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1540415798171.jpg> i'm dying

https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1055202521692733440

rip

even though ISIS was never involved they'll still get involved somehow

maybe

are they even still active

in libya and a small section of land that has no strategic value in syria's eastern border

wasn't an isis flag

so larry the cable guy was behind this

http://www.ratchetqueens.com/donald-trump-calls-president-obama-lying-nigger-lockup-send-back-to-africa.html

fucking based trump.

it doesn't look like either flag to me the center of the sticker seems off like it was placed on top of the the original sticker or the pic was doctored with photoshop or something

So these things were intercepted before leaving the original receiving post office?

now it turns out the clocks on the bombs don't even have an alarm function

I can understand the stamps not being voided if they got intercepted during the receiving process. Unless I'm mistaken how that process works.

If that IS the case... We're they all intercepted in NY?

the CNN one made it to their office as far as I'm aware

In which case the likelihood of it being a Democrat goes up.

See now I'm highly suspicious

Those stamps should have been voided out after being used

In addition, it's not well done. I am used to the right wing of politics typically producing bombs and shit that works

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1540427987439.jpg

Is there any explosive material in them even?

Does tim think this is some Democrat or is he unwilling to say?

As an actual good Journalist, he can't jump to such conclusions.

Good man

Interesting. Is there a confirmed source on this or is it just 4chan being 4chan.

I have to assume things were malicious and probably the right targeting the left. But I have to admit, building a bomb is so easy I have a hard time understanding how whomever did this failed to get even one to go off. Clearly wasn't tested or something.

I think it was just to stir up drama.

Or to intimidate.

Might be for victim points.

I could see that.

It seems odd for it to be for victim points.

I'd need some evidence of that.

The fact that the Selective Service disclosed that - why?

Is that normal procedure?

But stranger things have happend.

How did the media evern get wind of it?

Disclose what?

According to the Secret Service Report, there are thousands of cases related to security, substances, or weapns every year.

disclose that they had found these bombs

Is it normal that they would announce it to the press?

I'm not sure they had a choice.

The local news probably listens to the bomb squad and when it shows up for a prominent official or activist.

pratel, image from here: https://abcnews.go.com/US/suspicious-package-found-clintons-home-north-york-city/story?id=58713254

I would rather think they did

There's not much you can do to hide.

you can clearly see the wires do not connect to anything. there is no power source.

What do you mean? They were the ones who found it.

Nothing requires them to disclose this to the press.

Why did they even disclose it before they knew what it was?

This stinks to high heavens.

They hyped it for the elections.

Now that would be suspicious. Do you have statements with time stamps?

But the press would notice the bomb squad heading off and would be more than interested.

Don't forget we also found out about the ricin sent off recently.

I'm not arguing that they see this stuff all the time.

The number of incidents that the Selective Service deals with are actually pretty numerous.

I'm saying they probably didn't have the ability to not say something.

I don't know how often they receive fake bombs, but I would like to have stats on that.

If this is something that happens once per month, it's theater for the elections.

Also, these bombs are so primitive, I wonder if the Secret Service would have immediately realized they are fake.

The bomb squad is going to always assume the things are live.

I am pretty sure they have the ability to not take it to the press.

Just being filled with black powder is dangerous enough.

They have tens of thousands of security related incidents each year.

i don't know man

IF they disclosed each one, they would have enough to fill their own newspaper

if they think a device is a real danger they typically blow it in place

or get a robot to transport it where it can be safely detonated.

^

i've never seen EOD defuse something

they always blow it

I'm more surprised they got good X-rays.

And yeah, @Atkins this is very odd.

Anyway. I get the feeling as if this election hype.

To at least 70%.

Whomever built this didn't do a good job.

oh yeah, terrible job

Whoever built this wasn't even trying.

Was there even any explosive material?

they should at the very least have used steel instead of PVC

We will never hear about the followup.

What's with the detonator wires looping back over to each other?

That's just weird.

it's not a detonator

it's a solenoid

That is their strategy these days: Make a big deal about breaking a story and then cut it off if the story doesn't fit your narrative anymore.

They have been doing this like clockwork.

OK. Solenoid that's supposed to act as a detonator.

@Undead Mockingbird that's been the strategy since I was born.

They've only been getting more brazen with it.

They splashed the story all over because it supports the narrative:

Orange man bad!
Whammen and Democrats in danger!
We good! Vote us!

detonators are extremely uniform

I have to admit, I'm not super experienced in professional explosives.

Then, when sobriety sets in and the initial emotional shock value wears off, the story suddenly rotates out of the news cycle.

But this thing is just...I don't know. It's not how I'd build it.

*IF* there was a large battery attached to this, it could conceivably be a fire hazard

but that is not going to explode as is.

Like, I'm the kind that would probably use a solenoid

Especially if no white man can be found wearing a MAGA hat and playing video games, the story is killed at that point.

But this thing just isn't going to be very effective.

Like, PVC? No nails?

The Unabomber lived in the woods and never studied anything practical and did better than this.

The same shit they do whenever a black man gets shot:

HE A GOOD BOY!
HE DINDU NUFFIN!

> Facebook posts and prior criminal convictions emerge.

SHUT IT DOWN!

It's all the same MO. The same tired shit.

Again, I'm not going to just buy into the false flag narrative without some proof. But I agree @Atkins this thing's...just not right somehow.

A story gets reported only so long as it fits the narrative and has enough emotional impact.

Do you remember Bush?

Yes, same MO.

Yeah, this has been going on for decades.

ANd I never said it's exclusive to any side.

This is propaganda.

Funny story. Most news through American history was propaganda.

That's why there are still small town papers with "democrat" or "republican" in the name.

Yes. There were few wars in American history that the media didn't play an important role in stoking.

More than that.

But yes.

I can't completely prove or even articulate it, either, but something really, really irks me about this story.

Besides, nobody uses regular mail anymore. Nowadays, I would have sent bombs by e-mail.

I'm pretty sure the FBI will determine the nature of the devices by tomorrow, assuming they haven't already.

Whether they release that information is uncertain.

They might not want to tell the bomber that they know the bombs are fake, for fear that he'll start making real ones.

Yes, they probably will. And then one of two things will happen:

1.) They turn out to be complete BS, and the story will be memory holed.
2.) They are actual IEDs in which case we will be hearing about the "right's violent rhetoric" until the election.

They are not actual IEDs. There's no power source.

Okay, then it's going to be memory holed. That, or they will start talking about "intimidation".

What Atkins said.

You can build better bombs with 10 minutes of searching Google or a trip to the library.

Then, the democrats will predictable take the podium and talk about how brave they are and how they will stand up to political intimidation (while, at the same time completely disregarding that they are the ones who started it).

Heck, the bombs in the Anarchist Cookbook are better than these. And the guy who wrote that was making up half of it.

But you are right about one thing. The perception is what matters.

And that perception will be manipulated.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_explosive_device>
`An IED has five components: a switch (activator), an initiator (fuse), container (body), charge (explosive), and a power source (battery).`

scratch that less than a minute. Wikipedia tells you how to do it better.

Well, I am not going to try and show off bomb making skills on Discord.

The power source is completely absent, and from what I know the initiator is fake.

I do'nt want to shell out shekels for a lawyer again.

It's not a blasting cap and it's not a military detonator.

I'm going to have to disagree there.

Not everyone would have access to that kind of thing and they might have intended to just spark it somehow.

no

they would have at least tried it out

That doesn't work for high explosive, and to create a spark for low order explosive (like black powder) you need significant voltage.

And there's no source for that.

and if it's so bad that it would have never gone off, they didn't intend to

because then their tests would have shown that it cannot ever work like that

Yeah, the lack of a good source is the odd part.

Like you can take C4 and light it with a lighter. It'll smoulder.

Clearly didn't know what they were doing and clearly never tested it.

Making honest mistakes is one thing, not really caring about it exploding another.

Do we know the choice of explosive?

I don't think so.

Probably play doh

the x-ray shows some sort of lumpy filling.

I'll pretend it's just weed

I would guess they took material from fireworks.

Even black powder would be uniform.

So black powder.

Poorly packed and not raw.

<https://i.imgur.com/R1gbSeg.jpg> probably this

Yeah, fireworks black powder. They didn't buy the can from the store, they pillaged it out of something else and didn't bother crushing it completely.

I think the explosive devices are a false flag attack by someone who wants to attack the alt right strawman. The reason I think that way is the targets ea none are actually running for a political position and second is the timing before an election.

It would be interesting to know method of delivery but right now I just think it is one person.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/cnn-pipe-bomb-white-powder-harmless-law-enforcement-report/

@BrotherChaos The delivery is what has me most confused.

The word is that the majority were hand-delivered.

But now you're talking about one person visiting that many places that fast? Maybe. I don't know all the distances and times involved, but it seems strange to me. Moreso that it wouldn't arise increasing suspicion as it happened.

It would have to be multiple people.

Hand delivered makes this look like tumbler was larping as their opinion of /pol/

I doubt Tumblr is that capable.

kinda the point

But there's lots of people who are.

if soros wasn't included I would suggest it was a security check test.

Find a picture of a package with a postmark

the wording in the article above said it was left in the mailroom so they should have footage of at least one person

I'll make a bet the soros and waters packages were mailed and the others were hand delivered because that would make it able to be done "reasonably" alone granted very little information. It would have been more interesting if they mailed the packages from cnn's mailroom.

There's always the "multiple people" hypothesis.

So the delivery isn't that insightful. But it that would imply it's not a lone nut.

true. but I always lean to a single person doing a stupid thing rather than two stupid people doing a stupid thing.