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2018-08-04 03:36:54 UTC

Youd be called racist lol

2018-08-04 03:37:13 UTC

I mean, sure. if I recounted it that way.

2018-08-04 03:37:17 UTC

Sorry I shoudnt be finding that funny

2018-08-04 03:37:23 UTC

I find it funny, too.

2018-08-04 03:37:33 UTC

Id cross the street if I saw a group of youths

2018-08-04 03:37:37 UTC

I think it's funny when people talk about microaggressions like that

2018-08-04 03:37:56 UTC

knowing that microaggression would've spared me a somewhat traumatic experience.

2018-08-04 03:38:56 UTC

Dude its easy being virtuous about something that does not affect you personally

2018-08-04 03:39:16 UTC

Then again theres some retards who still spout it after being burned.

2018-08-04 03:39:20 UTC

basically, one of them made a hoot right behind me to get my attention, they had circled me. One of the guys that was behind me swung at me

2018-08-04 03:39:30 UTC

I caught the movement coming from my right side and moved with it.

2018-08-04 03:39:31 UTC

Like that one who refused to report her rape

2018-08-04 03:39:59 UTC

oh, first someone knocked the pizza that I was carrying for a delivery out of my hands.

2018-08-04 03:40:05 UTC

then someone swung

2018-08-04 03:40:10 UTC

Forgot about the pizza.

2018-08-04 03:40:24 UTC

waste of a damn ~~Goodfellas~~ Wiseguys pizza.

2018-08-04 03:40:35 UTC

(You can google these locations to figure out where it happened, lol)

2018-08-04 03:40:57 UTC

Excuse me! I was wrong!

2018-08-04 03:41:25 UTC

It was Wiseguys. Goodfellas is a Dallas restaurant.

2018-08-04 03:42:10 UTC

Jesus those names are synonyms

2018-08-04 03:42:25 UTC

Yeah. I know.

2018-08-04 03:42:31 UTC


2018-08-04 03:42:45 UTC

Fuck me for following my instincts yeah?

2018-08-04 03:42:57 UTC

I avoid groups of youths, not blacks.

2018-08-04 03:43:16 UTC

If it were a group of black elderly men id stick to my path.

2018-08-04 03:43:22 UTC

From that point forward, I was incredibly nervous about anyone passing me for a while.

2018-08-04 03:43:46 UTC

I still generally carry a gun or a knife in my car with me, out of sight.

2018-08-04 03:44:17 UTC

As a pizza deliveryman are you allowed to be armed on the job?

2018-08-04 03:44:28 UTC

I treat it as don't ask, don't tell.

2018-08-04 03:44:52 UTC

Technically, the arrangement I work under

2018-08-04 03:44:55 UTC

I'm my own boss.

2018-08-04 03:45:49 UTC

If they want to dictate whether the second amendment applies to me on the job or not, they can pay my worker's compensation.

2018-08-04 03:47:03 UTC

But since I'm given no such guarantee, my life and property is in my own hands.

2018-08-04 03:47:19 UTC

So based man

2018-08-04 03:47:32 UTC

Id say that if I end up in the us

2018-08-04 03:47:57 UTC

Pay me less, let me have a gun, and they dont need to pay me comp for injuries sustained.

2018-08-04 03:48:15 UTC

If only the healthcare there wasnt memeably expensive

2018-08-04 03:48:39 UTC

It's gotten to that point as a result of government meddling, mostly.

2018-08-04 03:49:14 UTC

If the FDA weren't operating as a protectionist arm of the pharmaceutical companies, things would likely be different.

2018-08-04 03:50:04 UTC

One of the main reason medicine is mass produced and STILL expensive is that certain companies have monopolies on treatments.

2018-08-04 03:51:02 UTC

Some of the standards required for FDA approval are prohibitively expensive, as well.

2018-08-04 03:51:32 UTC

Does not work. Its a buisness and they charge by how much someone will pay

2018-08-04 03:52:13 UTC

There are multiple issues with the healthcare system...

2018-08-04 03:52:28 UTC

That someone who pays is now a corporation, and not just an individual.

2018-08-04 03:52:31 UTC

Where does the price go?

2018-08-04 03:52:37 UTC


2018-08-04 03:52:43 UTC

Price goes up.

2018-08-04 03:53:07 UTC

Well its the govt, they never got good at spending responsibly

2018-08-04 03:53:30 UTC

When you buy Health Insurance, you mitigate the risk of illness or injury by putting the financial burden on an insurance company.

2018-08-04 03:53:40 UTC

As such, you are no longer the customer.

2018-08-04 03:53:46 UTC

The insurance company is.

2018-08-04 03:53:57 UTC

Combine that with a mandate that EVERYONE has insurance now

2018-08-04 03:54:59 UTC

The solutions are few, and they're ethically gray.

2018-08-04 03:55:09 UTC

Add to that that hospitals pass on the costs to the customer (they don't really give prices, just costs).

2018-08-04 03:55:29 UTC

Well, yeah.

2018-08-04 03:57:14 UTC

You have to consider that there's an inverse to supply and demand, as well.

2018-08-04 03:57:36 UTC

You've got supply, the hospitals.

2018-08-04 03:57:55 UTC

But the demand for hospital care is a matter of life or death.

2018-08-04 03:58:38 UTC

It's just weird that hospitals don't set prices, it's more insurance that does via the way things are handled.

2018-08-04 03:59:03 UTC

And yet, we've given the health care system entirely over to insurance agencies.

2018-08-04 03:59:48 UTC

It's even worse that most insurance set prices are based off of medicare prices.

2018-08-04 04:00:11 UTC

So, indirectly, it's actually priced by government

2018-08-04 04:00:30 UTC

Also, Medicare often can't even afford to pay it's bills.

2018-08-04 04:01:05 UTC

Many doctors won't accept medicare or medicaid, because they bounce checks.

2018-08-04 04:01:43 UTC

It's actually because Insurances set prices to pay better than Medicare.

2018-08-04 04:02:34 UTC

I need to stop looking at maps of DC.

2018-08-04 04:02:47 UTC

I'm getting hungry thinking about Wiseguy Pizza, &Pizza, and Cava Grill. -_-

2018-08-04 04:03:10 UTC

Medicare has the worst rates, but they set them first and the insurance companies base their stuff off of Medicare prices.

2018-08-04 04:03:31 UTC

Look up English food. That should stop the hunger

2018-08-04 04:04:11 UTC


2018-08-04 04:04:35 UTC

ew... greasy food

2018-08-04 04:05:05 UTC

Delicious greasy food.

2018-08-04 04:05:06 UTC


2018-08-04 04:05:11 UTC


2018-08-04 04:05:12 UTC


2018-08-04 04:05:22 UTC

You back the fuck away from my Fish and Chips with that 'Tendies' crap.

2018-08-04 04:05:23 UTC

Ughh the food here looks disgusting

2018-08-04 04:05:30 UTC

But why does it taste so good

2018-08-04 04:05:32 UTC


2018-08-04 04:05:36 UTC

Close enough.

2018-08-04 04:05:58 UTC

Good summer food:


2018-08-04 04:06:17 UTC

Is that teriyaki salmon on rice?

2018-08-04 04:06:23 UTC


2018-08-04 04:06:35 UTC


2018-08-04 04:06:42 UTC

nice, juicy, fatty unagi

2018-08-04 04:07:00 UTC

What's the sauce, though?

2018-08-04 04:07:13 UTC

Usually a sweet eel sauce

2018-08-04 04:07:39 UTC

Eel sauce is sweeter than teriyaki

2018-08-04 04:07:40 UTC

Looks pretty close to a Teriyaki.

2018-08-04 04:07:49 UTC

I could probably dig that.

2018-08-04 04:08:08 UTC

Eels nice

2018-08-04 04:08:09 UTC

That looks fucking delicious.

2018-08-04 04:08:24 UTC

the salt and vinegar

2018-08-04 04:08:46 UTC


2018-08-04 04:09:07 UTC

I went to Virginia several weeks ago for a wedding

2018-08-04 04:09:19 UTC

Jap food?

2018-08-04 04:09:22 UTC

Rural virginia. Like, within view of Whitetop Mountain.

2018-08-04 04:09:51 UTC

Damn thatvsounds amazing. Windy there?

2018-08-04 04:09:52 UTC

Blueridge or more Tidewater?

2018-08-04 04:10:03 UTC

oh, not tidewater

2018-08-04 04:10:09 UTC

It was relatively cool.

2018-08-04 04:10:13 UTC

But the food there

2018-08-04 04:10:22 UTC

Dear lord, I don't think I've ever had more bland food.

2018-08-04 04:10:26 UTC

Whats murican food like?

2018-08-04 04:10:35 UTC

Besides burgers of course

2018-08-04 04:10:47 UTC

One thing to consider about the United States

2018-08-04 04:10:50 UTC

Too be honest id find the food there bland as hell

2018-08-04 04:11:02 UTC

You can't judge 'American' food by one area.

2018-08-04 04:11:04 UTC

Everything here is packed with msg and spices

2018-08-04 04:11:30 UTC

Even our barbeque sauces are named after regions they came from.

2018-08-04 04:11:33 UTC

If you could get to Davis (or Thomas, I forgot which it was) in WV, there's an artist who sometimes cooks stuff for customers in his studio. It's pretty good if you ever get the chance

2018-08-04 04:11:34 UTC

I guess so, big place

2018-08-04 04:12:11 UTC

Actually, I think it was Thomas

2018-08-04 04:12:11 UTC

You'd have to try Memphis BBQ, Carolina BBQ, Kansas City BBQ, Texas BBQ, etc. etc.

2018-08-04 04:12:27 UTC

God, can you name the differences?

2018-08-04 04:12:43 UTC

Skip the Cincinatti Chili though

2018-08-04 04:13:27 UTC

Well, Kansas City bbq tends to be a bit more sweet

2018-08-04 04:13:38 UTC

Memphis, I believe tends to be more smokey-flavoured

2018-08-04 04:13:44 UTC

Texas is known to have a spicy kick

2018-08-04 04:13:59 UTC

Carolina tends to be a little vinegary

2018-08-04 04:14:07 UTC

so yes.

2018-08-04 04:14:54 UTC

But what you've got to consider about all of this

2018-08-04 04:14:55 UTC

South Carolina is mustardy, north Alabama is mayonasey

2018-08-04 04:15:00 UTC

is that the United States is continent-sized.

2018-08-04 04:15:11 UTC

We don't talk about Alabama.

2018-08-04 04:16:33 UTC


2018-08-04 04:16:37 UTC

Cheese biscuits are actually muffins

2018-08-04 04:16:56 UTC

First time I traveled out of state

2018-08-04 04:17:05 UTC

I picked this pamphlet up.

2018-08-04 04:17:09 UTC

Couldn't stop laughing at it.

2018-08-04 04:17:34 UTC

but I've never eaten at any of those restaurants. You can never be too safe. 😄

2018-08-04 04:18:05 UTC

Can't tell if it's like assembling Exodia inside your colon or something...

2018-08-04 04:20:22 UTC

Actually I think I ate at Dreamland BBQ one time, but I was a vegetarian so i just skeptically ate the bread.

2018-08-04 04:21:05 UTC

Dreamland is actively bad. I don't know why people like it. Then again, I don't like ribs

2018-08-04 04:22:15 UTC

Granted if I'm in Central Alabama, I go more for the Greek food

2018-08-04 04:23:46 UTC

Okay, you're going to have to PM me a guide to Central Alabama greek food.

2018-08-04 04:26:19 UTC

It's more that the region wasn't populated until after the Civil War when Birmingham was founded for steel. All the Greek and Lebanese immigrants decided to not work in the mines and factories and instead made the food. So the long standing food tradition is all Mediterranean. So the old hotdog stands, Barbecue and stuff all have Greek influence

2018-08-04 06:47:23 UTC

Just an off-topic; there's a few threads on 4chan right now accusing archive.org of changing their archives for the NYTimes. re: their statements regarding Roseanne's firing. https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/181076362#p181076362

This isn't actually the case. The caption they're saying wasn't changed; they're confusing the metadata snippet used for Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc., with the caption beneath the image. The metadata snippet, which can be found by viewing the source of this archive from May 30th, has remained the same. https://archive.fo/D37Nt

2018-08-04 06:51:44 UTC

It's still a statement that seems contradictory in light of the Jeong hiring and statements made around it, but nonetheless there has been no memory-holing on archive.org in this case.

2018-08-04 08:50:02 UTC

@sevvierose Frankly and bluntly, anyone using 4chan as a credible source is probably beyond help.

2018-08-04 09:27:41 UTC

Certainly. I just thought to share that here.

2018-08-04 12:46:12 UTC

So, anti-vaxxers and that shit might be fake news.
I made a short video about it.

Baisically the conspiracy I might have figured out goes like this (short summary): The anti-vaxxing movement started by companies that make vaccines
Step 1: Start an anti-vax movement by spreading the word as a blogger that no one knows anything about.
Step 2: Some people that did not vaccinate are now gonna justify their decision with the anti-vaxxing movement.
Step 3: Pay media to fear monger about anti-vaxxers
Step 4: People are now willing to get mandatory vaccinations into law.
Step 5: Lobby and make sure even vaccines that not that many take and don't work as good (for example the yearly flu vaccine, it only works about 50%)
Step 6: Extreme profit because now everyone has to get vaccines and more than they got before, the state has to pay so we can come with bullshit reason to increase the prices and people won't complain because the state pays

2018-08-04 12:46:25 UTC

What made me think of that you ask?

2018-08-04 12:47:09 UTC

The number that get vaccinated haven't dropped for the past 15 years or so, yet you never heard from the media that people that don't vaccinate are gonna make shit come back

2018-08-04 15:39:04 UTC

You sound like vee.

2018-08-04 15:58:55 UTC

I can assure you that I am not romanian, I am a swede

2018-08-04 15:59:09 UTC


2018-08-04 22:27:58 UTC

your gypsy tricks won't fool us Vee

2018-08-05 00:46:37 UTC


2018-08-05 04:54:34 UTC

I don't vaccinate personally

2018-08-05 08:56:15 UTC

I don't vaccinate others, I'm not a doctor

2018-08-05 12:01:47 UTC

So what happened in Portland yesterday? Last I saw the Police were telling everyone to leave and people were doing so but there's pictures being thrown around on Leftie twitter of someone getting head injuries from what looks like gas round

2018-08-05 12:04:10 UTC

thats really about the extent we have heard and seen

2018-08-05 12:13:25 UTC

The narrative that I've heard is that police were fairly competent at keeping the demonstrators separate, the lefties got agitated that they weren't able to stop the righties and started throwing shit at cops. Cops weren't going to take any shit and started clearing out the lefties. By this point people were so overwhelmed by the heat that they lost most of their willingness to fight and just went home.

2018-08-05 12:16:55 UTC

in other words, pussies

2018-08-05 12:17:38 UTC

Seen a couple of news flashes about "clashes between Antifascist protesters and police" today but I dunno how credible they are

2018-08-05 12:22:57 UTC

well its as creditable as the very chat we are in right now

2018-08-05 12:41:22 UTC

Maybe they should call them what they are

2018-08-05 12:41:25 UTC

pro communists

2018-08-05 12:44:49 UTC

Dude I'm a Commie and I refuse to be compared to those larping Trotskyites

2018-08-05 12:49:30 UTC

Pffft, kommunists are mad, Real marxism is the way to go

2018-08-05 12:49:41 UTC

Nah, just trolling

2018-08-05 13:48:10 UTC

You are pro commie, that does not make you antifa. Im pro equal rights, that does not make me a feminist.

2018-08-05 13:48:51 UTC

I think what Marx really wanted was complete decentralisation, at least that is how he talks in his literature

2018-08-05 13:49:17 UTC

I dont think anyone can have any claim as to what he really wanted.

2018-08-05 13:49:33 UTC

You know, like who owns linux? Nobody, you could say that the community that uses it owns it

2018-08-05 13:49:47 UTC

He only has that book and has nothing behind him besides being a neckbeard philosopher with a big idea.

2018-08-05 13:50:03 UTC

But back in Marxs time everyone either worked on or used everything that was produced

2018-08-05 13:50:03 UTC

That is not to say that he has no value intrinsicly.

2018-08-05 13:50:25 UTC

What do you mean "that book"?

2018-08-05 13:51:29 UTC

He wrote many books, his most famous books "Das Kapital" (because it has 4 volumes that are each at least 500 pages) were his most famous

2018-08-05 13:51:42 UTC

And how many people are aware of that?

2018-08-05 13:51:54 UTC

Im only pointing out hes famous for "that one book"

2018-08-05 13:52:45 UTC

Why do you ask? Because authority and employers worked to censor, later prevent people from getting them, later it was big news when the poor censored guy released a new book

2018-08-05 13:52:54 UTC


2018-08-05 13:53:12 UTC

That is sad, because obviously they haven't read that book then

2018-08-05 13:53:41 UTC

How many commies do you think actually read that stuff? Probably around the same proportion of christians who read the bible.

2018-08-05 13:54:02 UTC

It literally starts with "I will not go through x in this book series because I have already done that countless of times and in many of my previous books"

2018-08-05 13:54:07 UTC


2018-08-05 13:54:11 UTC

I agree on that

2018-08-05 13:54:32 UTC

Its the same really, nobody wants the effort to go through that, but they think they know enough to make everyone think they are the authority on that subject

2018-08-05 13:54:59 UTC

I will always point out inaccuracies people quote from the bible. And I actually did read the bible. Not these days, its been years

2018-08-05 13:55:01 UTC

From almost completing the first volume of "Das Kapital", I can assure you he has nothing against the free market

2018-08-05 13:55:59 UTC

Well, at least not in the first volume, he does mention the free market but only in how it actually fixes value on products and is self regulating

2018-08-05 13:56:13 UTC

My issue isnt with him. Its the selective memory about what he purports to belive.

2018-08-05 13:56:29 UTC

What does purports mean?

2018-08-05 13:56:29 UTC

People know the commie manifesto, not the kapita

2018-08-05 13:56:39 UTC

Omfg... I hate that book

2018-08-05 13:56:46 UTC

Worst. Summary. Ever

2018-08-05 13:56:50 UTC

If someone writes something, I cant say that he beleives that. Im not him.

2018-08-05 13:57:06 UTC

Same I can say he lies, I am not him. He might, he might not.

2018-08-05 13:57:13 UTC

What is important is the conclusion people get from it.

2018-08-05 13:57:32 UTC

Not what the author meant specifically when he wrote that passage at that moment.

2018-08-05 13:57:38 UTC

Baisically, it's like a summary of atheism like this: we want to rid of religioun in politics.
But said in a way that sounds like you want to masacre religious ppl

2018-08-05 13:58:09 UTC

That is how weird the commie manifesto is written

2018-08-05 13:58:38 UTC

but it is after all 60 tiny pages with huge text that summarises thousands of thousands of pages from other books

2018-08-05 14:04:12 UTC

Now that is fascinating

2018-08-05 14:04:23 UTC

Its a summary, but a badly compiled one in your opinion?

2018-08-05 14:04:39 UTC

Well people dont have the time.

2018-08-05 14:12:04 UTC

Extremely badly in a sense

2018-08-05 14:13:00 UTC

If it was to at least explain what it means with a lot of shit, it needs at least 3 a4 pages on each thing

2018-08-05 14:13:28 UTC

Otherwise you could draw a very weird conclusion compared to the literature

2018-08-05 14:15:52 UTC

For example: We (communists) want to abolish the family. Now, we do not want to abolish it to remover families altogether, what we want to abolish is the family you (the bourgeois) know of.

People take that out of it's context considering it's time and try to apply it in today, in which case they get the impression that here should be no homeschooling and society is the parents

2018-08-05 14:17:01 UTC

Read other literature where they, Marx and Engels, talk about the family and what they want to change, they explain some fundamental differences between the working classes families and the bourgeois families

2018-08-05 14:17:06 UTC

Thats the issue if it takes thousands of pages.

2018-08-05 14:17:13 UTC

TO come to one conclusion

2018-08-05 14:17:25 UTC

And then crush it down to double digits

2018-08-05 14:17:48 UTC

and in short, most the points are that the labourers kids should have equall opportunity as the bourgeois kids

2018-08-05 14:17:58 UTC


2018-08-05 14:18:14 UTC

And considering that time period, the summary I gave wouldn't work

2018-08-05 14:19:12 UTC

Then how did it become what it is now?

2018-08-05 14:19:22 UTC

People forget that a different time period must be considered not only as to why something was worded the way it was, but also why it wasn't worded in a, in our time, better way

2018-08-05 14:19:29 UTC

How the hell did it turn from empowering the worker to subjugating the population

2018-08-05 14:19:37 UTC

As you said, ppl are lazy and just read the manifesto

2018-08-05 14:20:12 UTC

And then someone on top realises if he cherry picks pages from Das Kapital he can get ppl on his side to help him get more power

2018-08-05 14:21:08 UTC

Jesus its like the koran

2018-08-05 14:21:20 UTC

I've met communists that are like "I have only read some parts of Das Kapital" and coincidentally it os the parts in which the state is the hero and the companies are evil. Never a single part that praises parts of capitalism

2018-08-05 14:21:51 UTC

Or that distinguishes percieved capitalism from actual capitalism

2018-08-05 14:22:48 UTC

He does explain how the free market, on the contrary to how it is percieved, is separate from capitalism

2018-08-05 14:23:15 UTC

Have you heard of a commie that is part of a big commie group ever say anything like that?

2018-08-05 14:23:41 UTC

They are always against the free market because it is capitalistic (in a russian accent)

2018-08-05 14:24:18 UTC

Ive never met a commie like that. You know, one that knows that much. But then again, Im not gonna pretend I read Marx's work

2018-08-05 14:25:49 UTC

You consider me a commie?

2018-08-05 14:28:03 UTC

I didnt say that

2018-08-05 14:28:23 UTC

Like I said I never met a commie that knows that much.

2018-08-05 14:28:51 UTC

Much like I never met a christian who knows the bible beyond memorizing verses

2018-08-05 14:31:08 UTC

Oh, ok

2018-08-05 14:31:11 UTC

Just checking

2018-08-05 14:34:11 UTC

The people I find more knowledgable on relligion ive met are people who dont practice it as much

2018-08-05 14:34:21 UTC

I would probably consider myself a Marxist if it wasn't for those that already do. Don't wanna be associated with those shets

2018-08-05 14:34:22 UTC

As they are more likely to question it

2018-08-05 14:34:41 UTC

And Id considermyself ancap if it wernt for those who already do

2018-08-05 14:38:16 UTC

I'd say I am a decentralist

2018-08-05 15:41:00 UTC

To be honest, govt seizing the means of production does not scream decentralization

2018-08-05 15:45:53 UTC

I know

2018-08-05 15:46:43 UTC

The reason real communisms haven't existed is because there has always been a state. They want to rid of the state

2018-08-05 16:05:35 UTC

But so called communists want to first make the state own EVERYTHING, and then rid of the state. Good luck making someone with all that power give it up

2018-08-05 17:34:15 UTC


This article basically flat out says younger mothers are no less happy but "have greater gender inequality, the horror!" (As if it is bad that a woman wants to specialize in caring for a child) and that children are part to blame for the wage gap in a more round about way

2018-08-05 17:40:28 UTC

It also basically says "when money is not the goal, having a family is more important". As if that is a bad thing

2018-08-05 17:41:47 UTC

Which is true

2018-08-05 17:56:05 UTC

Yeah, kids are expensive. But like, since when is specializing and family bad things

2018-08-05 18:15:26 UTC

Since cultural cancer came

2018-08-05 18:18:11 UTC

When both nazis and commies agree on something, you should take it into concideration. Both of them thought that motherhood should be praised, unlike today when it is almost frowned upon. But they did think very differently about the family and other related stuff

2018-08-05 18:18:34 UTC

Well, with today I mean todays elite

2018-08-05 18:18:41 UTC

More or less

2018-08-05 19:08:44 UTC

i think society got too strict with its standards, forcing a pushback in the opposite direction. Now we are reaching the opposite extreme and the push back is building

2018-08-06 02:42:31 UTC

dave bautista punches nazis what a hero

2018-08-06 03:00:22 UTC

GoG3 is gonna tank because of politics. Perhaps not a bad thing because there is some pretty SJW movies coming down the pipes in the MCU

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