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explain the point

For democracy you have to change the ideological bedrock

https://youtu.be/k12teOokSqM

I’m on your fucking side, I just want to make sure you people can raise actual points when you’re in a serious discussion

@halfthink You know any philosophers that argued for democracy?

If I tried to defend monarchy, I would say that it is a better representation of societal structures and can provide superior mechanisms for selecting a superior leader.

Hobbes

The ur-social unit is the family, with the father at the helm, making decisions for the unit and directing it.

Thomas Hobbes was very much in favor of autocratic governments

As social units grow in size, there still must remain a singular unit at the head, directing it.

This force leads the individuals which comprises the unit, but does not draw authority from it, anymore than a father draws authority from his children.

Rousseau, I think, was a fan of democracy.

Kinda

on small scales

> If I must be a slave, I would rather be privately owned than publicly owned
lmao
US citizens pay tax on global income, whether connected to US or not
the only other country that taxes the slaves globally is the Philippines, iirc

there is, indeed, a case to be made that we are publicly owned slaves

Lol

Not the muh wage slave argument

in most cases, the tax liability applies only within a geographic jurisdiction

for US and PH citizens, the liability attaches to the person

yeah, that's a problem

that is not the wage slave argument at all

i wouldnt mind being a slave as long as i got food and a place to sleep its not like thats much different from what some people have nowadays

citizen = serf

No representation without taxation.

perhaps I am not familiar with the wage slave argument

what is it?

its the commie labour theory of value argument

not the libertarian tax is theft argument

oh, right - yeah, this is not the wage slave argument

and it's not really the taxation is theft argument, either
it's more a proof that we are chattel property of the state argument

Except tax doesnt constantly impose force and you can still make chooses of your own will on a far much larger scale

Communism is just a scuffed form of ancapitalism, change my mind

Which is just tax is theft, taken to its edgyest extreme.

tax only employs force when necessary
when seizing property to auction, for example

Tax is theft yeah

Tbf if you've seen all the horsecrap the government spends on Id agree with the radical libertarians who want to abolish taxes

@paradigm If I mug someone it doesnt make them my property

Same with taxation

I find it deeply troubling that we tax income rather than consumption

Involuntary tax should demolished

@Existence is identity if the results of your labor are my property, do I not have an ownership interest in you?

we have voluntary tax - it says so in the name of the act

heh

Except I have a choose in other things besides that

I can choose how to earn it and what I eat

ok - so I only have a 40% stake

but that's still quite a lot

Yeah its wrong but im a slave

The government is a looter that is comparable to a gang

It'll probably be a better investment to give money to a mafia

I guess we should define what is the standard for something to be considered a slave

More local, no legal crap

If you can choose between the mafia and the state for protection, you have a free market in government, and you're halfway to ancapistan.

Tbf people already do that. Isnt legal ofcourse

But if people have to do that then there must be flaws in the state that they need fixed, so they fix it with their money

The flaw in the state is it's existence.

until someone has a working replacement, the state will remain necessary

and when there is a working replacement.... it will probably look quite a lot like a state

Do you guys think they will riot in Paris this weekend?

Psure our French chads are already organizing for that

o man

Yeah I think they said that Macron's pause of the fuel tax wasn't enough, now they're out for blood

they got that so easy

Yeah Macron is a pussy. He married his grandma

if Macron was a woman I think people would have looked at the situation pretty different

like an older male teacher getting with a young girl

Yeah they def would've lol

He'd be making conjugal visits

^

https://youtu.be/hy62JvkjpNA

Yes American laws that don't let criminals take over are white supremacy - do you realize you leave Mexico for those laxed look away laws reasons. https://youtu.be/4REH-r42uxM?t=647

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jrNbIRiRJY

I wonder if the Yellow Vests are going to turn in each other; considering how much influence they have and how different they are ideologically

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/celebrity/oscars-host-kevin-harts-homophobia-is-no-laughing-matter/ar-BBQzJkx?ocid=spartanntp

Ah, the guardian

One hell of a read

https://mises.org/library/skyscraper-curse

```Summary and Conclusion: End the Fed```

https://mises.org/library/immigration-roundtable

https://mises.org/library/middle-road-leads-socialism

https://soundcloud.com/misesmedia/sets/the-progressive-era

The EU should be broken up

Happy Friday all

It's Saturday

😃

i should have said. The EU should be broken up. and also wished everyone a happy Friday in

but the riots will be tomorrow prolly

"it's Saturday"
Not where it matters :^)

https://youtu.be/oX2dFP6h9b4

Julian Assange, unfairly targeted for exposing government corruption, or a operative if not independant contractable spy whos asking for trouble?

Macron approval ration is now below 20%

Jupiterian presidency doing well i see

They said last week they preped 60,000 Police. They are getting 90,000 police this weekend expecting numbers higher than a quarter million

plus military

i suspect that may backfire

grunts generally being part of the lower classes means they are just as personally affected by fuel taxes as anyone else, and they also tend to be highly nationalistic.

you bet

https://www.infowars.com/video-french-police-remove-helmets-in-solidarity-with-yellow-vest-protesters/

I'm wondering if that maybe the regressive left suffers from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

I bet that happens to both sides

thats why its so hard to get someone to change their minds

You're probably right. I'll bet I fall prey to it as well. "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge." - The late Stephen Hawking

@halfthink Those are interesting links.

https://youtu.be/PSyQCCcXX8A

@SolidHalon here's another good one. It's two essays explaining how private law and private defense might work. Audio version is less than two hours:
https://mises.org/library/chaos-theory

I like how the British people voted for Brexit and now everyone is trying so hard to essentially reverse the vote

like if they get any step towards their agenda of stopping brexit theyre like "oh thank goodness the people's vote is meaningless!"

"thank goodness we don't have to listen to what people want!"

If by everyone you mean a minority of people that are still salty about losing the referendum, then yeah.

The most powerful minority tho.

Yeah they're the "most powerful". You'll see some yellow jacket level shit if they back out of BREXIT

Individually, not collectively.

Imagin you're in a room with the task of doing something you've been asked to do. There's a couple of hundred of you and 80% of think what you are doing is wrong. What would you do?

Okay, you're not having a boxing match. The collective power of the people of the UK decided to vote leave. The collective power matters here

```"Nothing appears more surprising to those, who consider human affairs with a philosophical eye, than the easiness with which the many are governed by the few; and the implicit submission, with which men resign their own sentiments and passions to those of their rulers. When we enquire by what means this wonder is effected, we shall find, that, as Force is always on the side of the governed, the governors have nothing to support them but opinion. It is therefore, on opinion only that government is founded; and this maxim extends to the most despotic and most military governments, as well as to the most free and most popular."
-David Hume. ```

But you were voted for by the ppl. They voted for you to deligate their thinking to you. They've got shit to do.

I like that.

Yeah that take is pretty retarded. You have a habit of falling back on random quotes from random thinkers. Use your own arguments. That quote forgets how fragile that rule of the few is. Look how fragile Macron's power over France is.

How is france anything but a sudden change in the opinion the people have toward the government?

Lol

I'm not saying it isn't a change in opinion you chimp. My entire point is that their views of their government changed and now they're toppling it. They have the power.

@Poppy Rider If 80% thinks its wrong they should leave

It didn't change you chimp. They snapped.

If the other 20% want to do it they can and should if its in their interests

The other 80% shouldnt force the other 20 to not do something

@Existence is identity I agree.

Vice versa

IT should be clear to them that they are not only beholden to there constituents but also to the country at large and should step down if they can't up hold their duties.

Alas we do not and never have lived in a principled world . Ppl like power.

How to rule Souls
"What do you want Ellsworth ?"

"Power, Petey. I want to rule. Like my spiritual predecessors. But I’m luckier than they were. I inherited the fruit of their efforts and I shall be the one who’ll see the great dream made real. I see it all around me today. I recognise it. I don’t like it. I didn’t expect to like it. Enjoyment is not my destiny. I shall find such satisfaction as my capacity permits. I shall rule."

"Whom...?"

"You. The world. It’s only a matter of discovering the lever. If you learn how to rule one single man’s soul, you can get the rest of mankind. It’s the soul, Peter, the soul. Not whips or swords or fire or guns. That’s why the Caesars, the attilas, the Napoleons were fools and did not last. We will. The soul, Peter, is that which can’t be ruled. It must be broken. Drive a wedge in, get your fingers on it – and the man is yours. You won’t need a whip – he’ll bring it to you and ask to be whipped. Set him in reverse – and his own mechanism will do your work for you. Use him against himself. Want to know how it’s done? See if I ever lied to you. See if you haven’t heard all this for years, but didn’t want to hear, and the fault is yours, not mine.

https://youtu.be/8CvbDOJT1ro

There are many ways. Here’s one. Make man feel small. Make him feel guilty. Kill his aspiration and his integrity. That’s difficult. The worst among you gropes for an idol in his own twisted way. Kill integrity by internal corruption. Use it against himself. Direct it towards a goal destructive of all integrity. Preach selflessness. Tell man that altruism is the ideal. Not a single one has ever reached it and not a single one ever will. His every living instinct screams against it. But don’t you see what you accomplish ? Man realises that he’s incapable of what he’s accepted as the noblest virtue - and it gives him a sense of guilt, of sin, of his own basic unworthiness. Since the supreme ideal is beyond his grasp, he gives up eventually all ideals, all aspiration, all sense of his personal value. He feels himself obliged to preach what he can’t practice. But one can’t be good halfway or honest approximately. To preserve one’s integrity is a hard battle. Why preserve that which one knows to be corrupt already? His soul gives up its self respect. You’ve got him. He’ll obey. He’ll be glad to obey – because he can’t trust himself, he feels uncertain, he feels unclean. That’s one way.

Here’s another. Kill man’s sense of values. Kill his capacity to recognise greatness or to achieve it. Great men can’t be ruled. We don’t want any great men. Don’t deny conception of greatness. Destroy it from within. The great is the rare, the difficult, the exceptional. Set up standards of achievement open to all, to the least, to the most inept – and you stop the impetus to effort in men, great or small. You stop all incentive to improvement, to excellence, to perfection. Laugh at Roark and hold Peter Keating as a great architect. You’ve destroyed architecture. Build Lois Cook and you’ve destroyed literature. Hail Ike and you’ve destroyed the theatre. Glorify Lancelot Clankey and you’ve destroyed the press. Don’t set out to raze all shrines – you’ll frighten men, Enshrine mediocrity - and the shrines are razed.

tldr

tldr?

TL;DR: Ayn Rand is a fascist.

I'm not reading all that. I just read your last and you didn't give me name. tldr=to long didn't read. What the summery?

Just look for TR:DR on YT. You'll get the drift.

It was on how to control a man

I know how to do that. Got anything knew>?

```"History is ultimately determined by ideas, and ideas can, at least in principle, change almost instantly. But in order for ideas to change it is not sufficient for people to see that something is wrong. At least a significant number must also be intelligent enough to recognize what it is that is wrong. That is, they must understand the basic principles upon which society — human cooperation — rests … And they must have sufficient will power to act according to this insight."
-Hans-Hermann Hoppe.```

Ascend him to mediocrity and take away his self esteem

We need a Philosophy chaanel.

Take away his values and his ability to think

Philosophy and economics specific channels would be good

Use laughter against him make him laugh at anything

Here’s another way. This is most important. Don't allow men to be happy. Happiness is self-contained and self-sufficient. Happy men have no time and no use for you. Happy men are free men. So kill their joy in living. Take away from them what they want. Make them think that the mere thought of a personal desire is evil. Bring them to a state where saying ‘I want’ is no longer a natural right, but a shameful admission. Altruism is of great help in this. Unhappy men will come to you. They’ll need you. They’ll come for consolation, for support, for escape. Nature allows no vacuum. Empty man’s soul – and the space is yours to fill.

@Existence is identity Lay off the crack mate.

What do you mean?

Slow the hell down.

It's Saturday.

Similar theme to what wall of text dude is talking about. (doesn't really get into the topic until like 45min in)
https://youtu.be/fBe3bW44MmA

Oh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O6uacXDAHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvjLgjtJKsc

https://youtu.be/UOpXv9n_LsY

That guy's either an idiot or lies to prove his point. Neither the Satanic Temple or the Church of Satan believe in Satan.

i thought it was funny lol

but it did happen

Yeah, the lawsuit seems dumb, but from what I know of the Satanic Temple they probably were trying to make some point rather than win.

prolly

https://youtu.be/8lvtYiOiCQU

👌

its gonna be a spicy weekend

Can't wait to turn on the news tomorrow morning

The Red Elephant did a good - if propagandic - video on the yellow vests

https://youtu.be/RJxVCsWzRx8

So Sargon gets his livelihood taken away because he said the N-word, somewhere, years ago, once.

It reminds me of this meme <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UazouNRStOE>

You're not allowed to call nazis bad words.

That would be extremely dangerous to our democracy.

The white nigger meme was destined to backfire.

https://gab.com/a/posts/42965165

Gab is shit though

I wouldn't trust them

https://youtu.be/0Wo4sEMoauU

at least gab is reaching out to Sargon over this.

it's free publicity

don't mistake oppurtunism for good intentions

we need the porn payment processors

this will all go down the drain when they expose that they are doing it due to govermental pressure

We need to be able to donate using Robux

People just need to level up and come out with their own app

Like Chris Delia

Chris D'Elia by Chris Delia https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chris-delia/id1293045218?mt=8

Can I donate in Vbucks

Ryan Dawson has a Solution about Payment Processors

though it kinda sucks but its also one of my ideas as well

@hulton Tim Cook has been very clear about pushing people off his platform

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek9GtrgHVCw&time_continue=27

> Hate tries to make its headquarters in the digital world. At Apple, we believe that technology needs to have a clear point of view on this challenge. There is no time to get tied up in knots. That's why we only have one message for those who seek to push hate, division, and violence: "You have no place on our platforms."

while I agree in principle that leveling up and producing your own X is a good idea,
I don't think an app that only Apple can distribute solves the problem

thats a good video

meanwhile https://youtu.be/Q6UpuouOomU

looks a lot smaller than last weekend though

the french have a lot of work to do on their politics

I don't envy them

watching the RT stream with the sparkling red christmas lights while listening to retrowave is a pretty cyberpunk kinda feel

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T36jnqASqvM>

this is great

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1071147659350691845

AOC is idealistic and clueless, and she'll go through the process that educates her and attempts to turn her into a seasoned elitist

hopefully she live-tweets the whole damned thing

and congress will look back in three years and pine for the days when they could reach a 10% approval rating

with fondness and longing

@halfthink If there's one thing i despise more than communism or facism, it's nazism
_(and it pisses me off that the current 'pc culture' seems to give rise to lunacy on both ends. left as well as right)_
https://youtu.be/ZeU9QVh4MI8

Whenever you get a movement youll have a counter movement

Inevitably people will take the ideology of either movement to its extreme and do something terrible under its banner

@Blackhawk342 there's also something called _"Overcompensation"_ ..Which is even a mental state that's mentioned in psychology as a borderline mental illness; Kind of like swerving your car into the ditch on the other side of the road, just to avoid going into the ditch on the opposite side...Not only do you risk colliding with oncoming traffic as you do so, but you'll still end up in a ditch regardless.
#centrist

Not to mention, if there's anyone who've historically been comfortable with colluding with e.g Islam, it's Nazeism. .. So to think that Nazis, AKA 'National' Socialism is going to _ever_ save the day , would be like applying vinegar to a sore asshole, thinking the stinging will go away. ..

Nazis are merely _pretend-Nationalists_ , always have been, and always will be. And they are as much _globalists_ as any hardcore communist or islamist. And of course, their mutual gripe and incessant focus on jews and the nation of Israel; Exactly as their dear friend Mohammad.

It's why you'll e.g find an Finnish/Swede _"nationalist"_ organisation SOMEHOW having a chapter on the damn Island of Malta; ...Nationalists, my ass..

And of course, they wouldn't be genuine proper _fauxnists_ "Nationalists"_ if they didn't constantly try to latch onto cultures, and mythologies, that've already expelled them; So e.g Runes and Vikings are often a popular gest and theme in their circles.

And make no mistake, they'll name their "nationalist" organization in foreign language, and keep their forums and websites just as well in international languages.. And whos ONLY problem with mega-unions such as e.g EU, PRC, ISIS or USSR, is that they're not in control of it.

Exactly the type of _fauxnists_ filth and fascist, racist, _empiricist globalist_ garbage, despicable, illiberal, loathsome mongolism; that gives genuine, non-racist, non-discriminating, patriotic, _REAL_ Nationalists and National-romanticism a bad name...

https://youtu.be/DomK1alNOSI "Mitt lille land"

#rant <#463068752725016579>

https://twitter.com/JonHaidt/status/1071505585097580545

Reading the report in the link above and it's actually pretty good so far.

Patreon is attempting to deplatform Sargon. He switched crowdfunding sites but who knows how much further they'll take it.

SubscribeStar is powered by Stripe. Stripe has already bowed to SJWs on more than one occasion. There are several NGOs dedicated to pressuring hosts/registrars/payment processors/etc into cancelling service to their ideological enemies.

So it's only a matter of time before SubscribeStar caves.

Sargon uploaded a video on the whole issue. Glad to see it because he'd gone silent there for a bit, wasn't sure what the deal was as the whole things could've easily been a game of broken telephone as is often the case

Communism, Fascism, Nazism, what's the difference really?

How can you hate one more that the others?

Not much difference. Pretty much the difference is what the pigs say their goal is when they overthrow the humans.

AOC might end dead in the gutter....

I don't think wanting to take over the world necessarily makes the Nazis globalists.

WORLD DOMINATION != globalists

Don't the Globalists want world domination as well?
just at the cost of the Individual countrs and their benefit???

Everyone *wants* world domination. It's just a question of how you're gonna get it and how far you're willing to go.

Just saw a Furry on Stage.

I thought Bestiality is illegal

And by the way, isn't playing games is a product of capitalism?

You can become something you want as long as there are people supporting you

I felt like that man is woke in Blue Pill

He didn't take red pill.

He can take red pill and see why blue pill is important.

Why do all celebrities abuse their voice?

I know. It's Freedom of Speech.