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Wow... when reality bites them in the ass and having to be responsible for their actions, they don't like it.
nice pasta
^
if only that were real
That is reality, you hurt other people and destroy other's stuff, you will be forced to face your actions.
@Abel Is there a link to that post?
Its a 4chins post
Thread is prob kil
Shame.
Its not reddit, so thats good
Found it.
Hey cool
You wonder how many of these folks have jobs.
Just gibberish ...
Judging by Captain Bike Lock... Probably a fair few.
Most of them have arts degrees
And others are tenured professors
Nice find @Abel
You're welcome
@xorgy Get anywhere? I haven't heard anything.
@Inquisition No, I didn't get anywhere, looks sketchy AF, NFI where the money goes.
Stocks just broke to session lows for today. I still think Fed is driving markets lower ahead of mid-terms to make Trump look bad ...
wat do
time to at least say my piece somewhere about it.
(I guess)
Yeah, but where?
yt?
4chan?
I think that's kinda all that can be done
Wow there is so much backlash against that post.
People are really laying into that Antifa person.
Here's some good news https://twitter.com/caseytolan/status/1050415695471636480?s=19
Only sad part about that post on 4chan is so many people are playing right into what Antifa will use as ammo for recruitment.
thats great
I am only for the death penalty for a select few. Like mass murders.
Life in a US jail, Death. I know what I'd pick.
Markets picking up speed to the down side. Lower than what they were when Trump was elected. I am sure this is algo driven to make Trump look bad. I can hear CNN now ... markets are tanking ... because TRUMP!
I used to believe in the death penalty, but I changed my mind when I became more libertarian
I can't trust the government to not kill innocent people
This is FED induced ...
Trader... it will go back up.
Soon.
Trust me.
Sure, but they will use this ahead of the mid-terms.
The thing with the death penalty is that it demands not only a very terrible crime, but it also requires a very high standard for evidence.
i still disagree wtih it
killing is wrong
Hi Tim! :D
i dont agree with abortion issue but as someone who doesnt like government authority I dont like restricting access
I'm pro-life in principle, but pro-choice in practice.
Well both are our opinions.
Neither decision is to be done lightly.
The thing with abortion is it's a deadlocked issue. Nothing will budge until someone invents a way to actually save aborted fetuses so they can still grow outside the womb.
How can someone be pro-choice but anti death penalty?
I just think death penalty should only be reserved for the absolute worst crimes. Like mass murders and assassinations.
Well, the main issue with abortion is that people argue two different points.
As for Abortion... I couldn't care less either way.
@Timcast fine but i definitely want the government completely and utterly out of it then
Death penalty is tempting but dangerous.
It's not a matter of life for pro-choice, it's not a matter of choice for pro-life.
I'm going to have to disagree there.
If I had a choice... I would choose pro-choice.
im not pro life. I'm just anti abortion
People should have the right to choose.
I'm pro-choice only because I understand that circumstances are complicated.
We shouldn't be forcing people to do things.
but if it means that all I can do is keep the govt out of the business of being involved in it im ok with that
I actually believe that babies should get a chance to live but reality has other ideas.
This rabbit hole of a conversation would go on for ages
If we do go Pro-life, we should encourage people to put babies up for adoption.
I don't trust to the government with the death penalty. I recognize that there's an emotional response that I would have to a child molester or mass murderer, and you can't act legally based on emotions, especially when there's life on the line.
but to say the least, I think you are deeply mistaken @Dusty Morgan
The abortion debate is pretty much a stalemate IMO.
specifically regarding the "forcing people to do things" part of it
as for the death penalty, im all for it
How am I deeply mistaken? I think we should have pro-choice up to a certain point. After that it should be pro-life and if people don't want, they should be encourage to put baby up for adoption.
yeah nobody asked but still
lol
But the truth is that we don't have a proper punishment people who do commit serious crimes, because we can't really impose anything that would serve justice for some crimes. I'm not sure what my stance is on it still.
@Dusty Morgan you made a choice by being sexually active and, in a wildly large number of cases, unprotected
prison should not be punishment
it should be rehabilitation
no the death penalty should be punishment though
That's a fair point.
Well punishment does need to happen, but there should be some rehabilitation centers in prison.
Why not both?
To help people get back into society.
punishment is illogical
Tim, some ppl are beyond help. And some ppl deserve to be punished.
Explain what you mean Tim.
no they dont
its just emotional satisfaction
it does nothing
waste of time and energy
right
so kill them
either we rehabilitate or we dont
kiling is wrong
is it though?
killing is immoral
yes
It should be neither punishment nor rehabilitation, but separation. Prison is to keep society safe from criminals. It's not for the criminal's benefit, it's for society's.
Punish people for doing wrong, encourage people for doing right. Set them on right path.
in ALL cases killing is wrong?
punishment doesnt change behavior
You're right, Tim. I should have used a different word. I suppose I meant more of... there's no way to bring justice to it.
But give them the tools to help them on right path.
exactly
The fear of prison does put some ppl off commiting crime.
gaming content when
^
Only if they arent desperate
we should have prison "colonies" in the sense that they have to fend for themselves and live together
but you're telling me all killing is immoral?
What is with "saudi assassination squad"
they do it in scandanavia
@Timcast A lot of people are very broken. This is a lot to ask others to pay for, it would be very expensive if not impossible to solve the worlds problems like this.
If you don't punish a murderer or rapist... they just blow it off. Like it doesn't matter if they go to prison, they are being taught and they can ignore it.
like, drop them on an island
Id like to point to Brevik as a person who cannot be rehabilitated
Can we have pubg?
you cant kill someone becuase you dont want to feed them
You got to encourage people on right path.
more Australias?
Discourage them going on wrong path.
Completely in control of his faculties, no mental or psychological disorders
either lock them up and assume responsibility or let them go
I think this was done before
see now that's totally different to what it sounded like
In a movie
Make the other path less inviting.
death penalty doesnt deter crimes either
its in a game called S
SCUM
no one cares about the punishment
100% unapologetic of his killings and in court said his only regret was "that i didnt kill more pople"
@Timcast im not using it to DETER peopel
**people
You absolutely can. If some one has proven to sociaty that they are broken and sever no purpose but to be fed and clothed you kill them.
That is because we allow Prison to end up as training camps for criminals.
But who gets tossed in there... anyone that committed a violent crime?
To become a better criminal.
in all seriousness gaming content when
its primary function is to remove individuals who releasing, or even keeping in the prison system, is dangerous
Okay. Let's play this thought game for a second. You have someone who is so broken that they want to get the high score for making as many people as miserable as possible. Unless you really want to do some heavy brainwashing you won't change them.
I think we need both punishment and rehabilitation.
Contain until we can fix 'em.
I don't have a job, so rob a bank and get free rehabilitation and maybe free education in Bernie's world.
@TraderPropShop >Free
Give them the tools to become better citizen, but at the same them make the criminal path less inviting and less rewarding.
I'd garnish wages.
Theoretically the idea would be to focus on rehabilitating non violent criminals to start with
So people are pissed at trump for selling arms to saudi Arabia?
why?
we've done that hundreds of times
they didn't bitch then
Ever
So crime does pay. Free rehabilitation.
Because a journalist went missing and people assumed the government ordered the journalist execution
Because they should have the least amount of work to be done of them
I am all for rehabilitation, but I am for a mix type.
@TraderPropShop The issue is reoffense.
Without rehab reoffense isa thing
yeah that's my thinking
@Zuihou he went missing inside the saudi embassy in turkey
you're just saying crime gets you somewhere
obviously probably not murder but definitely petty crime
ofc we need rehabilitation but that is not saying that prison should not be pounishment. Not everyone can be fixxed. I think it is cruel to lock up people that have been done for petty crimes with hardened criminals. One should be punished the other should be helped.
72% Reoffense rate for arrested violent criminals in USA
@Blackhawk342 is it proven or this is conspiracy theory time
72%.
how about non violent?
That SA killed the journalist
They spend time in prison, they must pay a price for their actions. But also give them a path to a better life through rehabilitation. Make it much more inviting to go down rehabilitation. If they keep going down the other path, they will receive more punishment.
I don't think you can have one without the other.
cuz im sorry you're not going to convince the public to prefer rehabilitation for violent criminals
We honestly should charge the prison any time they get a reoffender.
@Zuihou Thats where the world is stuck currently, the american government says he went into the embassy and never came out, the saudis say he left shortly after arriving
@ArdBoy that's a good idea
Watch them go full rehab REAL fast
Wow, left pushing a conspiracy theory
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i mean even if they didn't, there would be a profit incentive in our private prison system
Logic is; if a prisoner reoffends, it means the prison did not do the job it contractually agreed to do.
Breach of contract=Give the US Gov the moneys back
Currently, since job history is so important to job seeking, imprisonment is a double whammy against people who have served time.
Does anyone understand what I'm trying to say?
im not sure I saw what you said
oh ok
yeah I'm not sure anyone necessarily disagrees with you
He wants punishment for severe crimes and rehab for non violent ones
I cant wait for saturday
unless you're tim
They spend time in prison, they must pay a price for their actions. But also give them a path to a better life through rehabilitation. Make it much more inviting to go down rehabilitation. If they keep going down the other path, they will receive more punishment.
It's outcome policing instead of trying to gauge the situation on the ground.
That is what I said.
in which case disagreement is what he does
@Dusty Morgan Isn't that what happens now though?
Get to see more sjw cry about goblin slayer episode 2
Okay. Here's a good question. Should people in prison have the right to vote? If you say no, you have to admit that this is suspending their rights until they've served their time, and that would mean it is, in fact, a form of punishment. I think Dusty is right, you can't have one without the other, but that's more a matter of the reality of time in prison.
If the prison did it's job, the prisoner won't reoffend. If they fucked up, we'll know.
Out fo prison, yes.
Now really @Inquisition We are sorely lacking on rehabilitation.
yeah definitely not in prison
committing a crime means you violated the social contract
We need more rehabilitation centers in prisons.
But the punishment needs to be adjusted to fit the crime.
And drug war needs to end.
by violating that contract you are in effect stating you didn't want to be a part of the social and governmental system
But does rehabilitation work?
I am absolutely in favor of rehabilitation in prison. I've seen the numbers for re-offending
it does
It works.
Honestly as long as we don't get reoffense and we aren't violating human rights, whichever works
There is evidence to support that it does work.
let the prisons spend the money figuring it out
Just needs to be encouraged while the other path is discouraged.
ok saying "it works" isn't evidence
so just post something please
anything
fuck it, it can even be from Occupy Democrats
I'm sure they have a few hundred memes
I like the idea of, if you are not contributing to society, you can't vote. Hence pay not tax and you can't vote, with a few exceptions (education, etc ...).
KEK
Starship troopers
@TraderPropShop Ehh thats eh
@TraderPropShop i dislike that idea
only people who served can vote
The pros for Rehabilitation needs to outweigh the cons for criminal life.
Like I get it
@Timcast no
And ther eis a logic to it
no way
But the issue is, you NEED voting as a social safety valve
From the point at which you are able to be drafted until you die you have a right to vote
Constitutional rights shouldn't be infringed upon.
Or you get commie insurrections
Sorry... I am against taking away voting rights.
look i love the guys I served with, but man...
@Timcast Served time in prison, or served time in the military?
Hes talking about service garuntees citizenship meme
military
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