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I mean, there's over 300 languages spoken on a daily basis in Indonesia
with 1 lingua franca
but eh.... people tend to mix their own native language and the official language
We got 3 recognized languages here
but the city i live in has more nationalities in it then New york
it's not even nationalities, just different tribes with differing languages
yeah i know
its not the same here
yeah
hence why most people in Indonesia tends to be trilinguals
Heh
I speak 5 atm
but they only expect you to speak 2 properly
I speak 4 languages "fluently", with some other minor languages
But here is another example i always give to people
also, even though I'm chinese descent, I can't speak chinese at all
back in the 90s we had a large movement of eastern europeans coming in due to the whole balkan conflict
I even almost got suspected for weird stuff in China because I didn't understand jackshit of what their ATF was saying
and was promptly scolded by my grandma who speak the language
Yeah, I know of the balkan conflict
I dont recall anyone calling anyone racist for pointing out these people were disproportionally committing a huge amount of crime.
Hell even the police chief here was quoted saying "at least theyre so nice to solve their own problems" as a reference to all the murdering going on.
But everyone was sick of it.
We got the same thing today only on a much larger scale in terms of people coming in.
But now the reply is that when you point out how theyre disproportionally represented in the crime stats & jail population, you are called a racist and thats the end of the debate.
Theres just no looking into what is causing these problems, cops get told to stand down due to fear of things escalating whenever theres a confrontation and so on
The latter has a caveat tho*
Depends on what city and who it is ran by
Prolly the best one is a city south of me which is a liberal
he seems to have found a good recipe for dealing with these issues
tbh, I never recalled any immigrants causing a huge issue in Indonesia
some tribal tensions, sure
it just depends on how big the cultural difference is and the language barrier i think
I suppose
and quantity vs period of time
tbh, most people come to Indonesia not to stay, but for vacations
especially in Bali and Lombok
yea i been there once
bali
since there's plenty of tourist destinations in Indonesia
but barely anyone ever pays attention to whats going on in belgium anyways
were a poststamp on the map
I don't think a lot of people in Asia can pinpoint belgium on their first try
unless they either into history or international relations
yea i dont think thats limited to people from asia ๐
but I hope people from congo would be able to point on where belgium is
i dont know, apparently they do and know more of the combined history then people think
at least they understand that they cant expect the current generation to "fix the past" i cant do anything to fix that. But i can say that i never thought about anything regarding race untill recently when people started to non stop talk about it.
Some think we should but you always gonna have those people regardless
it is fair to say tho that schools should do more teaching about our history with congo
because i learned very little of that in school
but in a factual way not in the "you are bad because history" way
what I hope people to do is not fix the past, but acknowledge the sins of our fathers, where things went wrong and do better. Is it not what you can draw from learning history?
Well what we would draw from learning history is that totalitarian states are a bad idea
and the left cant have that.
depends on which kind of left tho...
Thats what history does but the current mentality seems to think that history needs to be rewritten
the only way I can endorse histroy being rewritten is to remove most of the bias held by each countries to paint the truth.
thats another thing
history revisionism, i believe?
Today we think of things that were held dear and were normal 50 years or so ago as reprehensible
like historical misconception during cold war, etc.
But what people always do, and i dont think that will ever go away, is to think that NOW we reached the end point.
no lol
we're not on the end point of history
ofc not
but you even see that with scientific progress
steam engine comes along
universe works like this! we finally know!
20 years later
holy crap we were totally wrong!
im not arguing relativism or anything
the real end of history is when the end of the universe occurs
or the death of human race if you're going the usual humanity-centric type of history
My point is, theres only a handfull of people of each generation that manage to be truly special.
And everyone else can only do their best with what their environment at the time considers to be "normal" i guess
idk how to put it any other way
well yeah thats probably true but i dont expect to be around when tht happens ๐
Ok people are you ready for possibly the stupidest thing you'll see today
im not sure
ive seen a lot of stupid things
eh.... not really
I've seen more stupid shit today
Well if you want to go really dry and dark on him
tell him he solved that problem by destroying the demand
I never watched the movie so maybe this doesnt make any sense
it never did
the argument thanos made was terrible
i dont watch marvel movies so i have no idea what this is about xD
Thanos kills half the number of people on every planet
So the resources are enough for everybody
Are you saying that just culling people doesn't fix society? That's just crazy
It's almost like thanos is the villain or something
This is interesting data if you're making a video on scientists going on a crusade against capitalism
dont quite get how this ties in with libertarians tho
Exactly
it doesn't
It's quite clear. Everyone knows that Hitler, a famous genocider, was a libertarian, seen in the name "nazi", that stands for "someone I don't agree with" and that's what libertarianism is
Daam CO2 and man made globalwarming meme
"Famous genocider" lol. Muh 6 milion
that guy is a meme Hasan Piker
I dont get why so many people still belive in holocaust.
In time of internet and free information๐ค
i do
but i guess thats because half my family died in those camps
Also because literally every time a holocaust denial institute was presented with evidence, they've always backed out
i'm curious what's his particular number, everyone 'freethinker' of this kind has different number
They were put in prison...
And gassed, worked to death, or shot
i dont really care about holocaust deniers
it's still weird how they had to introduce laws against Holocaust denial and how they go after people who talk about this legally and financially
they've done that for decades in Europe
yes and its stupid
yes and it's retarded
But Europe does that for all kinds of stuff
Like racism, sexism, transphobia, hate speech
this started in the 70s if I'm not wrong
before all of that
Literally everything hateful
idk all i know is that the last time i dug into that topic
i learned a lot of new things
by having to think about my arguments
and data
That's the hitchens idea
yes
We need to debate ideological minorities so we know why we believe what we believe
I think the laws about this came with David Irving, they pretty much tried to bankrupt the guy in every way
now they do that to anyone they don't like including people like Faith Goldy -.-
u know whats ironic
that belgium, with its endless stream of pointless bureaucracy and nanny-state approach to everything + being the center of the EU
is actually one of the better places in europe when it comes to free speech lol
talking EU levels ofc
they say when it comes to effective free speech, France is actually on par with US if not somewhat better
How's Poland?
French comedians are apparently very edgy
I don't think Poland has strict hate speech laws does it?
thats possible, im not very aware of the french
poland i have no clue
i dont think they go along with that whole concept
given a lot of people there still remember how it was under communism
Hungary and Poland will hopefully be where EU comes to die, they will never accept a United States of Europe
its possible
No country should support this communist project that (((EU))) is...
I think one of my actual friends
made one of the silliest comments about why the EU as it is, is a good idea
"It will prevent war"
because when all these countries are united, they wont have a reason to fight eachother
Lel. like civil wars arent thing.
balkan war never happened
Whole world under globalist communist goverment and everything will be perfect
i think war in 21st century and maybe it's been like this for decades is less about open warfare on the battlefield and more about internal cultural subversion.
war is more psychological, through the media and academic apparatus but the end results are very very similar. Political Subjugation
again ideas like communism are against human nature and biology itself
for the simple fact that no human is born the same
everyone is unique
in fact the results can be worse since according to Geneva Convention you aren't allowed to settle civilians in occupied territory, but look at Europe now, it's being settled by non Natives on a massive scale.
I think we should treat Communists everywhere as Terrorists. That's just me opinion ๐
I dont think thats gonna help much
I would be a hypocrit for demanding action against people calling for communism
Yeah. Communists should be threated as terrorist.
most people here are disengaged from politics
where
if i had to go off what people say about politics in my day to day life and job
it would be this:
"whatever i vote for, they just keep doing whatever the hell they want"
that's woke
im not saying thats everyone
but thats what i generally hear
i generally hear the same opinion in most places, i think they're right but idk everyone actually believes that when they say it ๐ค
and im from belgium so thats "here"
nice
and these are people from across the board
they talk about it sure, but actual engagement? not so much
Thats woke. Espesifically in case of (((EU)))
Just look what they did with article 13...
i read an article about a survey about how Belgians no longer feel "at home" because their country is so rapidly being transformed through mass Migration
but then these people won't organize and do something about it because they've got other shit to do
๐คท
eh i wouldnt put too much weight to that
u have to understand
pretty much the entire world has set foot in this country at one point or another
its a bit of a running joke really
there's difference between visitors and settlers
and numbers matter, especially in a Democracy
sure but the thing people tend to refer to is the ghetto areas
you have to realize that the rest of the world finds it Amazing what you guys are doing with your countries, this stuff isn't considered normal anywhere else
its very politically incorrect these days
but even a widely respected criminal expert here talked about this only 3-4 years ago
how legal economy left those places due to crime and filth neighbourhood
and was replaced by illegal economy
and those are all areas where these people are concentrated
again, we had the exact same problem with the eastern europeans
this is not new
high crimes, high level illegal stuff
then why repeat it?
fuck if i know, because people have really short memory?
You don't see a difference between Islamic Migrants and Poles tho? :D
mm i think thats the wrong question to ask
Here's the thing, I live with Muslims, many of me friends are Muslim, i have been in many middle eastern forums, i know how these people think..
So do i
i got muslim family
when they step on Europe and they see your society, they're not thinking well, we will integrate and become like these people
well then you'll know
Well that is the question
its not about ethnicity
they don't think oh yes, my daughters will be wearing these small clothes and i will send my kids to these secular schools
no theyre not, but most do send them to secular schools here
no they think they're here to take over, they want Europe for Islam, and why shouldn't they
i dont even think there is an islamic school in this country
but im not sure
i vaguely recall that being shot down by liberal politicians as being totally wrong
well, atleast you guys dodged that bullet ๐
Britain, not so much
im not blind for the problems
i mean i live with them lol
From my perspective, look, I'm a Social Darwinian, if Muslims are a stronger more intact culture and they can remain so despite being in Europe..
they will take over and rightfully so inspite of all the money and technology Europe has produced
I can't be the only one that thinks whoever made Nazi Germany's uniforms were very artist. :\
but, i usually side with the Natives in my head, i wouldn't want them to lose is all
Artistic^
Hitler was himself an artist wasn't he ๐ค
The uniforms are cool looking.
lol Trump said Ivanka could replace Haley ๐
Why do the bad guys always have good looking shit.
T_T
the Villain needs to be good looking
Nazis were good guys...
No they are villains Jasse.
is this guy a meme
Just saying, their uniforms were cool looking and stylish. I think maybe that was part of their attempt to appeal to the civilians that they took over.
To appear less frightening when confronted... even charmed.
Aesthetics are very important
Really?
Oh yeah, psychologically they're a huge part of the messaging
So I am on the right track why their outfits were designed to look cool and even sytlish?
if someone comes up to you looking like a Hobo and speaks truth you're uncomfortable with, you would not believe him..
if the same thing is said by a person in a 3 Piece, you will atleast consider it
i think you're on to something ๐ฎ
Interesting subject. Fashion of the uniforms of soldiers can play a major role interaction with civilians.
Notice how Hitler never wore civilian looking clothing in public, he was the Fรผhror of the German People and they were under his Command, his Soldiers..
Everything conveys a message
Yeah that is true. Hitler was big on conveying messages through actions. His speaks are a great example of that.
So his uniform was designed to command respect.
I think not many people look into this aspect of Nazi Germany. :\
have u seen how many uniforms have been based of nazi uniforms in pop-culture
People had studied all aspects, but I never seen anyone look into why the uniforms were designed that way.
You'd be surprised how many people understand the value of Aesthetics, most Political groups and Politicians do
and not in a negative way per say
So many uniforms were Tritrium.
That is why I am saying they probably intentionally designed uniforms like that to have a big impact on those that rule over.
Stylish, slick, and cool looking uniforms.
I think it was kind of the Old Meets the New kind of theme
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