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@Scribblehatch Joe manchin
I'm pretty sure
--Ya
How do you think I found the images. lol
Politicians meet with anyone, even those they disagree with.
It's not just the base sometimes.
Manchin knows he has to be able to cross the lines, so he does it.
He seems like a nice guy
He's a Democrat in the Trumpiest of Trump territory.
He is very much a Democrat, but he knows he has to play along with Republicans, particularly on social issues or his constituents will eat him alive.
He's winning his reelection bid.
well... those people are the most likely to "defect" in the most important votes because they know that they will not get re-elected otherwise.
He doesn't just have a sign infront of him
He's helping hold both signs.
And they're antithetical.
I'm guessing he probably just met with people and took pictures. Like every politician.
If you want his actual stance, look at what he says, or look at his voting record.
Voting record is best, but it's not always a guarantee of the future.
Well, this is a great case against all politicians.
And this conversation is not to end on "Yeah but that's never gonna happen"
The amount of times I've had to remind people not to presume what can and can't happen, after the presidential election we just had.
Can people just grow a fucking spine and stop being so fine and dandy with this **shit.**
"Yeah he's contradicting himself and yeah there's immediate visible evidence of it. BUT HYUK-A-GOO~~~!! THAT'S POLITICS FOR YA!! XD Now stay in your lane, peon. With the rest of us peons."
Puppy just brought in the newspaper.
That is wholesome as shit.
Who cares about Islam?
its a nothing burger
Guys guys guys
help
I have to write an article about OLED tech
how do I start it
it can bend
the end
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Use google @Abel
I can get facts
I just dont know how to start the article
Try starting in the middle with the key facts you need to include and then write some kind of boring introduction.
"OLEDs are a fascinating new technology that ______" and then just spill out everything you want to talk about.
If you're engineering or physical science, no one cares *that* much.
if you are posting graphs, you might want to post the source as well, anyone can make a graph
hahahaha
where is that from
If itโs true it shows how much republicans are always lagging behind.
Or who the true party of tolerance is.
It's a good book
@Abel accurate af
makes one wonder if such levels of hatred are two party system thing, i would guess it plays huge part
Well of course
The hate is concentrated into two streams
I fixed that rape propaganda piece
using data from a WaPo fact checker
actualy
I fucked up
@Abel One interesting point: The divergence appears to have occurred right around 2000. There's a question if this is due to the Bill Clinton Impeachment proceedings or simply the election of Bush.
I can say that I distinctly remember a level of unprecedented hatred as the Bush presidency progressed. You can still smell it on this server.
its using a higher estimate from their data on false accusations tho
no
according to a couple different sources its between 2-10 percent
the only data actually studied said 7%
this chart uses 10% of reported cases
high end
So something around the 10% mark seems accurate.
When you get to the 5%-10% range statistical noise becomes nasty.
But yeah, that is kinda deceptive if the data provided says 7% and the chart uses 10%.
this is what went viral
total fake news
That's really bad.
the creator made a graph of 1000 men
but then the % were bsaed on 100
so she cut a full order of magnitude from the actual visual
Do you know the source of the viral graphic?
its on the bottom of the graphic
That's really deceptive.
yuuuup
and when called out
she went
"its a conversation starter"
even the link on the graph disproves her claims
it was meant to look official
The usual excuse.
but no one will type out that url from the graphic
Went looking. Here's the first hit I found on Bing.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/01/08/the_enliven_project_s_false_rape_accusations_infographic_great_intentions.html
Note the date. This apparently got debunked in 2013.
The Enliven project looks to me like an activists' blog.
Tim, I found this piece about the 2%-8% stat https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/how-common-are-false-rape-charges-really-jason-richwine/
he warned us
and its only getting worse
and will only get worse
I think confirmation bias and the like has been known forever though.
And it's just as bad--if not worse--in places like Academia.
In the case of theenlivenproject, it appears to have changed to a YouTube channel and a new blog.
It looks much more professional, but appears to be the same person spearheading it all.
https://theuncomfortableconversation.org/
That's an interesting National Review article. Should be relatively straightforward to confirm if one has the data. And far more relevant to the Ford-Kavanaugh case than it may initially look given that the prosecutor the Republicans hired didn't think she could even get a search warrant.
It actually could be spun both ways by both parties too.
I don't get the obsession about the rate of false accusations anyway
It should always be a case to case basis, with the bases that the accused in innocent until proven guilty
The rate at which something happens should be entirely irrelevant
In terms of resource allocation or deciding what's a "worthwhile problem" good stats on the occurrence of these things do matter.
In principle you're correct, but in practice you often have to weigh resources and things.
In terms of #MeToo, if you can show that false accusations don't really happen, it makes for an easier argument that you don't need to actually go through the effort of proving the allegations carefully.
Which is what the "sexual assault" groups want
This led to the Title IX courts, which reached a level of ridiculous as to be their own satire.
Look up University of South California football Title IX for the peak in silly--the girlfriend who was "raped" insisted that not only was there no intercourse but it was all consentual. The Title IX administrators lectured her that she didn't understand her own rape.
Susan Collins is a good man
Half of all exonerees of the Innocence Project are now men have been falsely convicted of rape.
The average falsely accused man spends 11 years in prison.
Rapes are 1/20th of all violent crimes.
False conviction rates are about 4 times as high for rape as for other violent crimes.
This is an aptly named blog, because how we deal with rape allegations is one of the biggest human stupidities.
@Timcast you might want to consider using a different color palette for that chart
It is also ironic that they assume many of the unproven allegations to be true when they will not do the reverse and consider all women whose allegations have not resulted in a conviction liars.
In cases of unproven guilt, many do the complete opposite of what our legal system is supposed to do and simply classifies those men as "those who got away".
There are few evils greater than this being committed in society right now, how we treat our boys and men, how carelessly we destroy their lives, and how spineless we and prior generations are in standing up to this disgusting pattern.
It is absolutely reprehensible how we are smearing and dragging men through the legal system. The process is bad enough that it might be punishment.
Treating men like a disposable commodity is the status quo for basically all of human history. Sure there might be a few percent of men who live like kings, but the vast majority have always been cannon fodder or slaves.
Absolutely no justice is being served by dragging the names of men through the mud while their accusers can either cower behind anonymity or a huddle of masses that are so lobotomized as to believe every allegation uttered from a person who happens to have a vagina.
This is the new standard for rape investigations:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12146351/No-one-is-safe-from-prosecutors-terrifying-incompetence-on-sex-crimes.html
If this does not terrify and anger you, you are not paying attention.
What was the last major rape case that was hyped by the media that did not collapse?
UVA, Duke Lacrosse, Brian Banks, Jian Ghomeshi, Roy Moore, Brett Kavanaugh, Jay Cheshire, Jemma Beale, Mattress Girl, Mustafa Uruay, Kahn Strauss, ...
how many more until these idiots are going to pull their heads out of their asses?
is that in the UK?
Some times, I wish there was a truth serum
time to claim asylum in the US
I had to leave the US because of SJWs.
My life was destroyed.
hahahah
where'd you go silly
Europe. And I will try to leave this place, too.
Rape is such a complicated crime to prosecute. How do you ever determine if the accuser refused consent?
Where will you go from Europe?
No evidence? Do not fucking prosecute it!
you just keep downgrading
Exactly
Too bad if you can't prove it. Just because it's hard to prove does not mean we are going to go easy on the evidence.
However, it's too much of a henious crime
no one will let it go
You know what else is hard to prove? You mind controlling me.
So that's not a feasible solution unless there's a giant cultural shift
"You know, mind control is such a hard thing to prove. We do not convict a lot of people for it. Let's just believe the accusers and invent a bunch of bullshit laws that prevent the defense from asking for mental records of the accuser."
AWESOME!
Read my lips:
I DO NOT FUCKING CARE HOW HARD IT IS TO PROVE.
Calm down, I agree with you
I know.
I am not yelling AT you.
I am more ... yelling at the collective human stupidity.
I just want a feasible solution. Not prosecuting these cases isn't one of them.
Maybe an entirely anonymous secret system of accusations and courts
Yes, it IS a solutin.
It is the only solution.
No evidence? Fuck off then.
Where the Jury and the judge only hears the statements and doesn't know who the accuser and the accused are
The whole reason why we think that way is because we cannot hold women accountable.
I think that might help
If child abduction was a problem, we would investigate better, and not let our kids walk out at night.
Lowering the standards of evidence would be the LAST thing we should do.
Think of it this way. Imagine the kav case, except no one knew who either the accuser or the accused were
The only thing put out would be the statements and evidence
Is child abduction hard to prove if there is no evidence? Yes!
Would I be pissed if I thought I knew who abducted my child and couldn't prove it? Yes!
The case would have been proven long ago
But that is what our justice system is for: To go on evidence and follow due process, not to satisfy your thirst for revenge of who you perceive wronged you.
Undead Mockingbird's rule for rape prosecution:
No fucking evidence? No fucking prosecution!
Cases being behind closed doors has precedent, but it's very narrow. The 6th amendment guarantees a public trial.
Europe has very private court cases and it sorta works.
The reason for public trials is to insure transparency and avoid a China scenario.
There are ways to run these trials and keep details sealed (in a way that's 6th amendment compliant).
But I think that's not really the point for a lot of these people.
Think cases done like 4chan
And the only people who're allowed to know the accuser and the accused are the defendant and prosecutor
That's not really practical.
I haven't thought it out
You would be able to peice together who the people are based on presented evidence.
Like, if there's addresses for example.
Or vehicles involved.
With license plates.
It would be extremely hard to censor enough to prevent court watchers from figuring out who's being talked about.
There are ways to frame things without revealing enough info to find the people
Not really.
You can hide for a little while.
But as evidence enters, it becomes dramatically harder with each new piece of evidence.
It's really not hard to unmask someone if you've got the time, money and know-how.
4chan and discord are hard because no one is volunteering anything and lies and trolls are rampant.
But as soon as people start talking neighborhoods. And people start disappearing from work to make testimonies...
Really not hard to figure out the parties involved.
According to WaPo the only data on false accusations puts it at 7%
If that is based on all occurrences there should be 70 little people not 2
There should be 400 people for reported and around 370 for faced trial.
30 of them would be jailed
Which is actually scary when you consider more innocent people are suffering than rapists are actually being jailed.
Not sure how to fix that but... damn...
I searched the innocence project database
362 people exonerated of crimes they did not commit
267 of the cases invovled rape
around 73% of the innocence project dealt with exonerating false rape convictions
So that's different than a "rape culture" which is what it's trying to convey
Imo
that's terrifying. any chance we could get a link to this data for posting at people?
I think the statistics for rape convictions are in line with other crimes
But need to be improved.
Timcast raped me on the night of Nocember 35th 2019
i'm gettin real tired of not having links ready for when people talk about how muh false rape accusations are too rare to care about
Timcast raped me on the early morning hours of July 4th 1776 behind the Boston state house
As in you think false rape. Accusations are higher than believed?
jesus fucking chirst
so
last night a twitter person I follow had a depression and I was tweeting support at them as one does
In False Rape Allegations Eugene J. Kanin, Ph.D. found 41% of accusers to not only have lied but to later have admitted to having lied. Its published in Archives of Sexual fichavior, Vol. 23, No. I, 1994
In 2009, germanies largest victims ambulance - that are the guys which exist to help victims - found at least 29% false accusations purely based on medical evidence - that is, 29% of accusers went as far as to inflict injuries to themselves and tried to present those as evidence of a rape or sexual assault. @Timcast
this morning he tagged a shitton of people me included saying thanks
I joked, as I was now in a converastion with upwards of 15 people, that I was lonely and wanted followers
and then this
nice
Is it a guy?
or a trap?
Likely
Flirt back for a white
It'll be fun
the guy I was supporting is an indonesian femboy artist who's always got hot takes and funny shitposts
so I'm not *that* suprised
but this is not how I wanted to start my weekend
Is it the guy who drank cleaning fluid
ye
He's doing okayer now? He's in a bad spot economically, and he's in anti-gay indonesia
Rizzy, right? I saw his drunken tweeting yesterday
and the cleaning fluids did a number on his everything
poor guy
Rizzy's cool
I DM'd his boyfriend some
Who's his boyfriend?
he tagged him a few times
I'll send you him in a sec
basically telling him that I've dated people with heavy emotional burdens to support before and to remember that peopel aren't medicine
Is it that guy who posts bowser dick
dunno
but that if rizz wants some cash I'll do a commission or two
I wanted to make a goofy canadaball-sona to put on my branding
I've made all my non-school and professional content king canuck themed now
and I want soemthing more than a shitty photoshopped canadaball
ya feel
i have no idea who you talking about but whenever i see bowser and dick in one sentence, Lo Ping comes to mind..
lo ping exists
Yes, that's who I was referring to
https://twitter.com/Newbie1030 here's rizzy's boyfriend
hmm
as far as I can tell just a ponyfag who posts regular photogrpahy stuff
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oh boy it's "Trudeau's outfit" 2.0
Xorgy let's be real
ponyfags aren't as bad as they used to be
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