there's a third channel?

Title IX is second wave feminists.

And she's the girl on the podcasts

I miss Tim's subverse podcasts with Emily

Tim knows girls?

social equity is an attempt to create equality of outcome, which is absurd given that people are all different

which is especially funny when tim advocates for people to figure out their own shit and not just do what they're told and expect handouts, but you're using that as a defense of his support of social justice

I agree with him on too many things to not assume he has a bad definition of social justice until I find out from him specifically, which now I can watch his video and see what "social justice becoming too extreme" is to him.

@oprahsminge Girl on the left

"can social justice go too far" not thinking that it went too far like 5 years ago is one of my top reasons for my belief that he's got a bad definition.

"social justice is a good thing when it creates equality of opportunity"
@Abel quote from early in his recent video, directly refuting your equity argument.

Not really

Tim and Emily look like siblings

yeah the intro of this new video literally refutes the things you said

He actually seems to agree with me

I said social equity meant promoting equal acceptance

***words mean things***

Leading to equality of opportunity

He's probably grooming her. GOTEM

Good, Social Justice

Bad social justice is where you compel people to consider everyone equal

Legally, or by mob justice

hmm the 13th amendment failed the first time it was brought to the house because the democrats voted it out

a year later the republicans had a majority in both houses and managed to get it through

```eq·ui·ty
noun
noun: equity

1.
the quality of being fair and impartial.```
This is literally the opposite of everything social justice advocates for

on a second vote

they advocate for discrimination in favor of certain groups

and LITERAL SEGREGATION in some cases

Yep

Bad Social justice

Where it doesn't lead to equality, it simply leads to more division

A particularly good example is the Evergreen Fiasco

you guffaw'd my christianity argument, but the crusades were still done by christians, the bad social justice is still social justice and it's still the dominant form of social justice

it's still the one that went to the UN to argue that video games are horrible and sexist and need to be changed to include more non-gamers

Probably. which is why I don't call myself a social justice advocate anymore

dayum democrats... "In 1864, an amendment abolishing slavery passed the U.S. Senate but died in the House as Democrats rallied in the name of states’ rights. The election of 1864 brought Lincoln back to the White Housealong withsignificant Republican majorities in both houses, so it appeared the amendment was headed for passage when the new Congress convened in March 1865. Lincoln preferred that the amendment receive bipartisan support–some Democrats indicated support for the measure, but many still resisted. The amendment passed 119 to 56, seven votes above the necessary two-thirds majority."

Just like how I don't call myself a feminist anymore

Which ***is why i said i believe he has an incorrect defintion of social justice and requested disprovement***

disprovement?

is that a word?

hm...

Social equity. He's not wrong here

You are conflating the tactics of radicals with the entire concept of social justice

That is merely dishonest

No I'm conflating radicals with the most pure enactment of social justice.

forcing equality of outcome because that's "fair"

You'd still be wrong

"You can't be racist against whites" was the last drop

The radicals here, have a fucked up world view in the first place

that's equity, because you can say "it's about equity" and they can say "it's about equity" and you're both being honest

Based on derrada and foucalt

Where the world is based on systems of power

because nebulous bullshit can be used for good and bad, again like the religion comparison

but the nebulous bullshit boils down to "acquiring justice for people through means other than the actual justice system"

See, I'd describe a good social justice advocate as people like Stephen fry, or MLK

stephen fry is not a fucking social justice advocate

The bad ones, someone like PZ Myers

PZ myers is

@Beef Taquitos He classifies himself as such

He said good social justice, you dink.

His openning statement on the munk debate

there is no such thing as good social justice

that's like dry water or cold fire

😐

Then you are dishonest.

Don't be obtuse.

it's like *ethical child porn*(you guys might not get the Destiny reference there)

Don't be obtuse.

says the person repeating themselves.

I wouldn't have to.

But you continued.

Social justice is a cancer. The only good social justice is no social justice.

Anything that purports to be "justice" besides actual justice is garbage

Yo folks if Social Justice is a religion then Tim is agnostic? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

~~: Prove me wrong.~~

sorry, that's not the meme

: Change my mind.

Equality of opportunity existed before "social justice". Equality of outcome is what social justice was created for.

No that's communism

He and you are wrong if you think it's about equality of opportunity.

Vague definitions is a problem. I've noticed that SJW people don't think equality of opportunity and outcome are different. If I remember correctly Thomas Smith said he was for equality of opportunity, but when pressed on it he said we measure equality of opportunity by the outcomes. Sorry, I might be side tracking the discussion you guys were having.

Same thing.

Well people having terrible understanding of *language and therefore terrible conclusions is pretty typical, which again is why I think he's arrived at a bad definition of social justice.

He's pretty reasonable so I don't think he's got bad logical processes

I compare it to feminism here because every time you try to nail down feminism it boils down to "equality" which is a wholly inappropriate definition both for the concept and how they implement it. Same with the way social justice is being defined here and how he seems to deal with it.

Does Tim clarify what Kanye meant about the 13th amendment thing?

I don't remember him mentioning that

just remember him agreeing with him about a lot and not knowing wtf he was saying a lot, which tends to be how kanye works

I haven't watched the latest video yet, so I can't comment on it yet. It would not surprise me though if Tim is still trying to hold on to a word the SJWs are corrupting.

I didn't watch the clip and I didn't know he mentioned that when he was speaking so I'd say unless I was heavily distracted, no tim didn't mention it

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1046802196388446210

The SJWs are literally the zealots of the concept, they're not corrupting it, they're the inevitable outcome of it

https://www.heritage.org/poverty-and-inequality/report/social-justice-not-what-you-think-it

equality was a thing before social justice, it will be a thing long after social justice

Well this will be a long read

most of the time social justice is a way of virtue signalling your worth to others these days, so perhaps it is being corrupted by competition, if only in the extremes it's being taken to

```"the visible hand,"```
Oh jesus it's the nega-libertarians

or was it ancoms I forget

@oprahsminge Does he actually get into what it meant in 2009? cuz I'm only seeing comparisons and definitions of what it meant hundreds of years ago which is wholly irrelevant to us today, as anyone who called themselves a "democrat" a hundred years ago could tell you when looking at current democrats.

I feel like we're at a very strong delineation line of the democrat/republican dynamic shifting yet again but that's a whole other subject.

Damn it I know tim won't define "social justice"(to him) because of his neutrality thing which is okay but I want to argue the subject with him to see where the disparity lies. Arguing it by proxy is so unsatisfying.

I agree, arguing over what Tim might think and what definitions he uses is kind of running in circle when he could just clarify what he thinks.

that is the official left wing google definetion of social justice not some made up shit the left will use oh wait

@grant he's made a bunch of videos and hasn't clarified, he won't, it's his thing to be a little mysterious for the sake of avoiding shitstorms

his "or maybe I'm wrong" is a pretty constant thing too lol

Have you tried to get him to clarify here? He actually does drop in every now and then.

Feminists and SJW on the left DO NOT WANT EQUALITY

@Rabbi Shekels lmao that's literally just saying "social justice is societal communism"

They constantly advocate for inequality that is a fact

that's amazing

@grant I'm hoping to catch him and ask, but I wanted to see if anyone else had anything that could change my mind since he isn't around.

Tina the Transtesticle

ewww ^

looks like I'll have to try and get it from the horse's mouth

Nay

Beastiality is nasty bro @Beef Taquitos

god what is it with humans and horses?

women like dem horse cocks

getting things from horses mouths, looking gift horses in the mouth, leading horses to water

it's almost like horses were an essential part of society for a long time lol

🐴 🏇🏿 🐎

Hey you! Quit *horsing around*

i feel like tim is being brainwashed more and more everyday moving further left sometimes

Eh

honestly I think he's doing the opposite

he seems to express more and more frustration with the left

he's trying to reform the left that he's a part of imo

^

fight the enemy closest to you first

"lmao that's literally just saying "social justice is societal communism"" Isn't this what people call Cultural Marxism. Classical Marxism = implementing communism through class groups. Cultural Marxism = implementing communism though social groups (race, gender, urban etc).

sorry to go back to an old comment

732, radio graffiti.

"(equality in) distribution of wealth, opportunities, and priviledges" is yeah I guess what you'd say is cultural marxism, which social justice is undeniably part of

I mean it includes standard marxism in it with that summary bit I did

Does Tim still like Bernie Sanders or when he brings him up is he saying why he did like him (as in past tense)?

lmfao Punished Kavanaugh

yes

sargon is still great fuck the haters lol

what happened?

He still says he likes bernie, which I can't understand

I ***believe*** he's said he'd still vote for bernie

he's mentioned bernie recently but I could be mistaken there\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a1dtcZrPWY @grant

i think he mentioned it like a day or two ago

>bernie
>"it"
OBJECTIFYING SHITLORD

objectifying the fact he said he would vote for bernie? shit, didn't realize actions could be objectified

Damn it. You found my one weakness. *Context*.

Its funny but I actually thought Bernie was the most dangerous candidate last election because he seemed the most sincere.

how could one find context? according to the left, there is no such thing

I was actually on board with him before hillary stole the nomination and he just straight cucked to her(yes that's proper usage someone fucked his nomination in front of him and he sat and watched)

i don't think he had a choice if he wanted to still be in politics

Well yeah, hillary probably would have had him killed if he didn't

What are you talking about he probably would have committed "suicide".

i guess you could say not standing up to the mob because you want to live as being cucked to the mob

there was the big bag of money he susposedly got paid too

Oh yeah, he probably would have driven off a bridge

suicide via multiple stabbings in the back right?

accidently stabbed him in the back, 4 times

is bernie going to try to run again?

is he allowed?

why wouldnt he be?

hilary will be going for try 3

damn

that should be her slogan

"3rd time is the charm"

damn i almost vomited just trying to type that

I came to dislike Bernie when he called into a talk radio station i listened to at the time. every answer came back to its the fault of the 1%. Even the radio guys got sick of it and went okay goodbye.

ya his talking points were pretty weak a lot of the times

i liked him out of the field of total crap they handed us

but i said from day one, running on campain finance reform as a platform was never going to win him the election

I liked Jim Webb on the democratic side

he dropped out really earlier

ya, there were a few i would have liked to see get further

really hate how money based it is these days. if you dont raise X ammount of dollars bascially instantly, you are out of the race

no one wants to talk about how those mofos get that money

I liked Jeb Bush 😂

bernie was the only one that would mention it

fuck any bushes, fuck any clintons

I thought he was so nice and cute

lol

so straight laced

but ya, i had to at least give bernie props for trying to call everyone else on the stage out for taking pretty dirty money

even if no one really seemed to care

Did you guys see the letter sent to Bernie from Grassely over some grandstanding Bernie was doing? https://twitter.com/ScottJenningsKY/status/1046222698937036800

Yes

Beautiful

😚 👌

i can almost guarentee you bernie just gave it back to his staffer

https://twitter.com/CrazyinRussia/status/1046457739491373056

@TylerC wasnt sure three firsts tabe were there

That's discriminatory against unfit people reeeee

I took this screencap before I heard his voice.

<https://youtu.be/2a1dtcZrPWY?t=14m35s>

Of course.

Why can't both sexes be an expression of the beauty of creation?

Because both sexes are forced to enter the workforce.

Where only one of them is really meant to be.

It's a bad situation.

Has any noticed the left has some weird pre-occupation with trash/garbage?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9nfgE4WsAED-Ze.jpg

maybe it just me

Oh feminists think it's hilarious to say "Garbage" or "Trash can" in reference to places their opponents belong.

Women should be able to work if they are in demand, but wage gap is bullshit

Well it is funny to call something you don't like garbage

Or trash, or that it belongs in the trashcan, or that something is a dumpster fire

The problem is that feminists have faggy opinions and they express them in a faggy manner

i find the variability hypothesis fairly convincing tbh

tbh I don't like it when feminists possess eagles to drop me into garbage recepticles and I think they should stop

XD!!!

HE SAID GARBAGE.

I fuckin love garbage. Say it again!!

g-garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMYgcS53Ezk

@Scribblehatch Is that an first one an actual SJW comic. That's so awful and disjointed I can't even get what the point is. It has to be some kind of parody.

No the left can't meme.

It's probably real.

@Timcast Sorry to tag you. But for Kanyes "Abolish the 13th Amendment" Comment, you need to be involved in the Black Community and watch things like Jesse Lee Peterson, Tommy Sotomayr. The conservative blacks believe that the Democrats enslaved the Blacks with Welfare for example.
Its a Dogwhistle or an Inside Comment. Its not a Mistake....

Dinesh D'souza also mentioned "the Plantation" a couple of times.

I used to watch Tommy Sotomayor regularly

I love the BT-900 stuff

He reminds me of like what Chris Rock used to talk about back before he got upset white people were saying the N word because they thought it was okay because of him

I do have to agree with Tim's assessment of the memo because prosecutor mode and is looking at every little detail on on whether or not it can stand against cross-examination if she is the prosecutor for it

I mean disagree

LOL

Iinda fucking sarsour

Are they using Woke unironically?

Yes

@pratel

It's real

That Kate Leth.

@Scribblehatch If making a shitty film reboot is the worst thing that can happen to one's childhood then life is pretty sweet

@RomanReigns You're barking up the wrong tree.

Anyone remember that Crunchy Roll thing?

Same woman.

Clearly you guys have no taste in comics considering she's a professional who's made comics for Marvel

"Feed me ham. All of it."

What's the deal with american cartoon art style these days? The weird adventure time/Steven universe art was fine when it was a novelty, but its pretty wide spread now.

It's a warning sign for normal people to stay away.

Is it a cost thing?

It's easy to draw which means it's cheap to make, and they can hire unskilled workers(and really there aren't skilled animators in cartooning any more)

o wait

Thought you meant the hair.

I've heard it referred to as "Cal Arts" style

@Scribblehatch she looks more uggoo corrupted by sjw ideology