is it racist to say that blacks commit more crime? and poverty in general (which has more blacks) commit more crime?

I don't think its a race thing,I think its a poverty, walk of life issue more than anything for the record

^more like who is already in the system...

and pin it on them..

which is a problem also

but we, as a society, have to be real with ourselves on the actual problems before they can be fixed

getting people out of the "system" whichever system that is

can only be a good thing

but i doubt they were like, oh let's pin this on that one black kid across the street, it's more like, click and drag and put whoever they have info on and place it as the suspect and close the case..

be it goverment support for them to do little to nothing, the feedback loop of incarceration, etc

could be

sometimes things aren't nefarious

sometimes they are

its hard to judge

and either case it's wrong

```In all, four officers interviewed by Scott said the command staff told them to frame people but only De la Torre specifically said they were ordered to target blacks.```

this essentially says it..

well

they could be not telling the whole story to protect themselves from being called racists

i.e. are the other officers all white?

would you want to say you were told to target blacks?

send the shit up, why would you want to carry it..

so yes it *says* it, but it doesn't *essentially* say it 😃

because officers all the time get the heat for "racist" actions

rightly or wrongly

well this would be the perfect time to snitch and get the racist tag off..

but they said it was only that one dude..

some of them are power trippers that shouldn't be near a gun let alone be an officer of the peace

there are those...

always will be..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeaJQt1s9oE

Police training actually encourages making people like that. saw it happen to 2 people I knew who went to the acadamy

i was watching that but it broke

huh?

to racially profile?

racial profiling is a very grey area...

yep, borked

like, that can't be the only reason..

if you are gonna use it, you only use it to observe if anything else comes out of it

it encourages cops to profile

you can't use racial profiling as the reason for the encounter, that's dumb and judges will toss your encounter as illegal

i.e. this area is generally very high in crime

well for using it as an indicator, that's valid imo..

or gang members wear these cloths to signal they are in the gang

where this is a high crime area and a black gang owns it, then a group of hispanics comes in wearing their gang style of clothing, you would be wary...

for me, i would take a slight deviation away >_>

who's more likely to commit a crime (in this case rob a convenient store), a grandmother wearing a Sunday dress or a 20 something (of any race) with a doo rag and baggy shorts?

or a well off person in a low income neighborhood stopping at a random house is rather suspicious in the middle of the night

well both or neither, but if the 20 something acts a certain way... i would pay attention

congratulations you profiled

awesome

Elderly actually do a ton of shoplifting

lmao

😛

doesn't matter

but if i reacted and did an encounter based on just that... then yea, i am in the wrong..

didn't get the profile

got lots of room in those granny panties

elderly people do steal

like they steal anything not bolted down..

they have nothing to lose

no one will send them to jail in most cases

once i saw an elderly stole a napkin dispenser in a restaurant..

juries wont convict, etc

I'm generalizing of course

Also they lead boring lives, and their brains are deteriorating making them make worse decisions

but still i would pay attention to both if the area is known to have shoplifting and they get hit daily

because it could also be a 9 yr old taking stuff because their mom is on the phone not giving a f about anything..

IF you saw a white person with a nice car pull into a house in a low income black neighborhood in the middle of the night that is known for drug dealing, then leave shortly there after, would you be in the wrong for stopping that car and asking whats going on? or is it reasonable suspicion?

^ you have to say, potential suspect left a known drug dealing spot :V

I used to get followed around stores and get dirty looks fairly often as a white person when I had long hair and dressed more like a skater.

no mention of race or socio-economic status

😄

i would be fucking screwed if i was a cop, i profile always..

everyone does, its the problem with racial profiling rules. Stopping someone because they are black is wrong. but since you have to trust a police officer to tell you the truth, and you don't trust them to do so, stopping a black person at all becomes wrong.

I have fun stereotyping people I see like "Oh yeah that person definitely listens to shitty alt-rock". Obviously I still treat them the same

because both involve profiling

but one is what he is, vs what he was doing

@Grenade123 lol cops have to jump through extra hoops when trying to stop a black person, that's why it's such bs the rules are now..

it is stupid

like they want to make it where if a black person has a gun, you cannot use lethal force until he starts shooting

thats why BLM wants now..

i remember the ACLU wanted cams on cops

which is bs because if the guy is threatening, you still can't go to lethal until he actually attempts to use it

BLM doesn't want cams

😄

then the cams started disproving the narrative of dun noffin wrong so then they wanted to remove the cams

any young person is likely to commit crime more then that same person older, on average

it was hilarious

because they know they cause half the shit also and leads the cop to where they have to react with lethal force..

disagreableness goes down with age

like that one video where the cop pulled his gun on kids

"We want cams to hold cops accountable!....wait wait wait, this is recording black people?! THATS A VIOLATION OF PRIVACY! HOW DARE YOU!"

he pulled his gun because the kids were crowding him when he was effecting an arrest..

Wait, the ACLU is against cop cams now?

^BLM mainly

yup

turns out they support what the cops says most of the time

they are against free speech too

who knew

I know they walked back somewhat recently on free speech, but never heard of that

i think ACLU starting to change because they went full SJW..

oh, the cop cam thing was years ago already

because they found out they make tons of money joining the left :V

ever since trump went to the white house

people donated to them, they made more money in that 1 week than the previous years

annually

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/aclu-police-remove-body-cams-inauguration-protests/

I feel like I need a gif of that time Homer Simpson burnt an ACLU membership card now

snopes bias is hilarious

lol

"he American Civil Liberties Union has demanded police in Washington, D.C. disable their body cameras for the duration of inaugural protests in 2017"

snopes: "Mostly false..... the ACLU wanted them to turn off there body cameras for all riots in DC"

oh so wrong event..

ok , false..

no, not even the wrong event

just not the only event

oh, all riots

hah!

They take the most extreme easily disproven version of claims to debunk the truthful ones. AKA a strawman

"no no no, they didn't want them turning it off at the inauguration, that is just straight up lies. They don't want them filming any protest at all!"

when will we treat companies that have a platform be forced to abide by the constitution :V

because i am getting really tired of "they are a company, they can be prejudice"

:V

I swear, if Trump said the sky is blue they'd say "Mostly False:

^"well it was mostly cloudy, so it should be gray"

snopes: "mostly false, comment not nearly as extreme as the actual facts."

During sunset's it's all sorts of colors, and depending on the weather it can be gray

you know

trump should make a statement about somone trans's gender, and state to refer to them with their prefered pronoun

i wonder what would happen then

I remember when Snopes debunked a Babylon bee article

"CNN buys giant washing machine to spin news"

Like, come on guys

trump should get an alt on twitter and not tell anyone and just don't use his main twitter for a month, let's see how many journalists' head will implode

Lmao

I don't think he can do that though

use his alt

doesn't even need to tell who it is

Who would he choose for his anime avatar

Twitter is how he plays 5D chess

He won't move to an alt

Lol

for a month

that's his 5D chess

Dude fucks with the media so perfectly

Plays them like a fiddle

because journalist would be like, "white house takes over trump's tweets." or "trump can no longer tweet"

:V

and then we finds out he's tweeting off an alt

😄

Is he allowed to leave though

because their "our sources say"

At this point he doesn't need to. They'll go out of their way to make themselves look bad, so when they actually do have something they're right about that he did wrong no one will care/believe

😄

seriously i am beginning to think their sources are their hands

Jesus Christ why is friends making me cry

and it makes shit up

Like how many smoking guns have there been for the Russia collusion that have turned out absolutely false?

It's hard for most people to care at this point

^strokz was hilarious yesterday

he was like, "when imeant i can smell them, it was a joke

:V

on a company phone

to his mistress..

and love it when that one republican was bashing his integrity because of the affair and the dems were crying foul

and that applause at the end where he said he did nothing wrong

Yeah, I think that does show that they may be more likely to fall into corruption, and is untrustworthy

but it does raise a valid point,

if he can't even be fidelity with his wife, how can he have fidelity with the FBI and his oath

Like if a politician is in an open relationship and has a dwarf give him a hot sauce enema, whatever that's none of my business

But in a case like this then yeah

Clinton was an even worse example because it was staff

because it was talking about him and lying, and he said he doesn't lie

so the gop was like, well how many times you lied to your wife, and that what caused the dem to go beserk

i mean, it's sorta a low blow, but valid..

Who are you guys talking about?

strokz

that fbi agent

who had a mistress with fbi paralegal and talked to people colluding against trump and headed clinton email investigation, trump russia counter intel, and mueller's investigation before he got fired

he was in there pretty deep, and was like "i got fired because it may look bad"

Yeah, he was tryping to play it off as purely about PR

even though oig was like, "he's straight as a right angle"

was biased through and through

personally, i would be like, rosenstein, either show what you have or end the investigation

because it is now going on as a witch hunt

poking and prodding everything like kevin bacon..

yeah there was that dem senator that bitched at him because he was like the head of PR and he showed he had no clue how to properly do PR lolol

strokz was head of pr?

hi Shivangi

Hello!

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Hello wol!

Hru all

hello

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strzok sounds liek a c standard library function

lol yea

herro

But I voted for Trump because he promised to make anime real...

He did,

A bunch of weird people are all screaming "HYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH" and not doing much cuz they don't have a budget

😄

just like anime

was listening to Sirius

and the personality was saying there's protest in London with a 30ft trump baby

20ft*

that's what she said

but yeah

so this is on normal commentary between songd

thats 9 meters

shows you how proliferating it is

30k £ on that

wasn't even that spectacular

nope

so small

if anything this proves that leftists shouldn't get any money, they'd waste it all on something useless and small

looks like a duck

looks like a jellybean

of you didn't know what it was you would have no idea from that distsnce/picture

if that shit was in america it would stretch half way across the road

go big or go home

just go home

and mexico would have paid for it

Sad!

I agree, and it would be flat too,

Cuz someone will have shot at it, and proclaim his 2nd amendment rights 😄

lol

protest is bigger now and is bound to be larger because of his disrespect of the queen

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1017811962778959874

https://twitter.com/Hermann250/status/1017839909829214208

heh gif already

Do you think that maybe all the old statues of weird looking gods and stuff are actually ancient Trump balloons?

its largue

but its not that large

🤔

haha trump trumping the queen

insert gif from pulp fiction with travolta looking around

https://twitter.com/notch/status/1017833055367524352

Dankula/Notch convo, we've reached end times

It took me a long time to forgive Notch for his broken promises he made to /v/

which ones?

minecraft promises?

Yes

he did the right thing

selling to Microsoft

I'll say it

he wasn't capable of running an empire as big as what the game became

he knew that

Yeah, I don't blame him for that. I just wish he had worked a bit harder towards what he said he'd actually put in the game

and got out with fuck you money