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2018-07-12 11:44:49 UTC

So only commercial pizza I give a shot about is dominos

2018-07-12 11:44:57 UTC

papa johns only had good garlic sauce

2018-07-12 11:45:29 UTC

Also actual good pizza requires going to non franchise places

2018-07-12 11:45:40 UTC

That have wacky pizzas like taco tuesday

2018-07-12 11:45:47 UTC

Or yiros

2018-07-12 11:45:47 UTC

i used to work pizza hut

2018-07-12 11:45:50 UTC

Or stranger things

2018-07-12 11:45:55 UTC

I'd still eat it

2018-07-12 11:45:56 UTC

All flavourful

2018-07-12 11:46:09 UTC

Think pizza hut is dead in my country

2018-07-12 11:46:36 UTC

^context for Papa Johns

2018-07-12 11:46:50 UTC

I mean from what I read a while ago Sanders was a bit of a cunt

2018-07-12 11:46:55 UTC

So was McDonald's guy

2018-07-12 11:47:02 UTC

The movie about him was really great

2018-07-12 11:54:14 UTC

Ultimately I find the whole 'say bad word get fired' to be dumb

2018-07-12 11:54:39 UTC

PR is a bitch

2018-07-12 11:55:05 UTC

This is why I stopped listening to AA

2018-07-12 11:55:10 UTC

He's so damn hyperbolic

2018-07-12 11:58:57 UTC

That's a straw man.

2018-07-12 12:01:15 UTC

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2018-07-12 12:01:15 UTC

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2018-07-12 12:34:56 UTC

universal healthcare bad, public option good

2018-07-12 12:35:08 UTC

i guess this is why im a social liberal and not a social democrat

2018-07-12 12:35:27 UTC

universal healthcare in the sense that we have no private insurance I mean

2018-07-12 12:35:44 UTC

I think we should have a public option because competition is good and it can be publicly controlled

2018-07-12 12:35:55 UTC

it will be susceptible to corruption but what isnt

2018-07-12 12:36:14 UTC

straigt up nationla healthcare is just another service and will be only somewhat different than private

2018-07-12 12:36:23 UTC

and without competition will likely become bloated and wasteful

2018-07-12 12:40:29 UTC

your not really going to get any reasonible discussion out of tj. he literally does this all the time. my first criticism of his stance would start with why conservitives arnt immediately interested in shifting the system which trillions of dollors of the federal budget is already tied up into, into a new system would probably be that they are afraid any change that is not incramental could have devistating consaquences that worsen the situation for everyone

2018-07-12 12:41:21 UTC

people who do not know how the healthcare system works, and where the inflated cost is coming from, should probably not be the ones designing a system to decrease these inflated costs.

2018-07-12 12:41:48 UTC

also, why do be people see health insurance as a must?

2018-07-12 12:41:54 UTC

progressive solutions tend to be rash and when they dont go exactly according to plan they overreact and make the situation even worse by compensating to far for a hole in the boat by taking chunks off the side of the boat to plug it

2018-07-12 12:42:15 UTC

one upon a time, you'd just pay the doctor when you visited them, or the hospital when you visited them. not a monthly fee AND every time you visit

2018-07-12 12:43:42 UTC

I'm interested to see how much people spend on insurance on average, vs how much it would have cost them to just pay the doctors and hospitals. And see what the difference is. And see if it would have been better for them to take out medical loans, vs paying this stupid monthly fee.

2018-07-12 12:43:44 UTC

health insurence is very useful to the lower classes because they cannot compete with those who can take the random chance of life throwing a 10000$+ medical bill at them

2018-07-12 12:44:13 UTC

Well I can state how it works here, since it isn't that bad here

2018-07-12 12:44:21 UTC

There's a public healthcare system

2018-07-12 12:44:28 UTC

But there's also private hospitals

2018-07-12 12:44:37 UTC

like, i'm wondering if paying off a loan+interest over time would still be cheaper than paying a monthly fee

2018-07-12 12:44:56 UTC

If you want cheap healthcare and are poor, go public

2018-07-12 12:45:14 UTC

If you have the money, go private

2018-07-12 12:45:16 UTC

where is "here", exactly?

2018-07-12 12:45:20 UTC

it might be but the idea is to pay more over 40 years of your working life rather than pay less over 5-10 years

2018-07-12 12:45:21 UTC

India

2018-07-12 12:45:57 UTC

You have health insurance options, but it isn't necessary

2018-07-12 12:46:33 UTC

And for people who are BPL, the costs are lower in public hospitals

2018-07-12 12:46:48 UTC

BPL means Below Poverty Line.

2018-07-12 12:48:09 UTC

i think the middle class tends to have the most problems with 2 system healthcare due to the public healthcare being able to become more relaxed in what it provides due to the people who pay into it also being very financaly strained while the private systems dont really need to be as competitive because the group they compete over eachother with have far more than what they would if everyone in the country only had private options

2018-07-12 12:48:22 UTC

This is a confused chaotic quasi socialist country, I don't know what this system is called

2018-07-12 12:48:42 UTC

i would agree, Arch.

2018-07-12 12:48:53 UTC

the middle class always gets screwed

2018-07-12 12:49:05 UTC

though maybe the middle class can do that loan thing grenade suggested

2018-07-12 12:49:47 UTC

to quote George Carlin: "The upper class doesn't none of the work, takes all the of money. The middle class does all the work, pays all the taxes, and the lower class.... is just there to scare the shit out of the middle class"

2018-07-12 12:50:28 UTC

yeah thats not true but i do agree in this case the middle class is not appreciated well

2018-07-12 12:50:34 UTC

what we really need is a government that decides what we can do and when, what we can say and why. We need a powerful central authority to control the economy and security and we should strive to spread out way of life all over the world. Slowly but surely we will create a powerful union of nations under the leadership of military rule. Communism of course, or wait was that called fascism I get confused sometimes because they function so similarly

2018-07-12 12:50:44 UTC

its not entirely true, no. but its also a joke

2018-07-12 12:50:57 UTC

Lol that's very accurate

2018-07-12 12:51:43 UTC

Well Tim....communism isn't meant to be fascism. That argument doesn't really work against communists

2018-07-12 12:51:52 UTC

no no no, its called "Not Real Communism/Socialism"

2018-07-12 12:52:00 UTC

oh its not against communists its a joke

2018-07-12 12:52:02 UTC

NRC/ NRS

2018-07-12 12:52:20 UTC

Oh okie, sorry!

2018-07-12 12:52:26 UTC

@Deleted User what happens if a person in the lowest caste becomes rich off the internet?

2018-07-12 12:52:56 UTC

they get called a Nigerian Prince?

2018-07-12 12:52:57 UTC

communism usually goes through and kills everyone who owns a bussiness, fascists usually give you the choice to join or die

2018-07-12 12:53:07 UTC

He is only concerned with the problems with the lowest class?

2018-07-12 12:53:10 UTC

Or she

2018-07-12 12:53:19 UTC

no I mean just in general

2018-07-12 12:53:23 UTC

Hmm

2018-07-12 12:53:26 UTC

can a super poor person move up?

2018-07-12 12:53:47 UTC

he'll be spat upon by everyone else,

The rich wont accept him cuz he was pleb-born
the poor hate him for his success

2018-07-12 12:53:49 UTC

Well... I'd say yes, but it's possible I'm wrong

2018-07-12 12:54:30 UTC

what if they are welded together rather than caste?

2018-07-12 12:54:38 UTC

I'm not really familiar with America. Here, I'd say they could definitely move upwards

2018-07-12 12:54:49 UTC

๐Ÿฅ

2018-07-12 12:55:15 UTC

But what do you think, Tim?

2018-07-12 12:55:30 UTC

its not caste based,
Everyone loves people below them, they despise people above them

2018-07-12 12:55:39 UTC

I dont know much about the caste system but in the US people make it seem like if youre born in the lowest youre not allowed to do certain things

2018-07-12 12:56:03 UTC

Which is not true...

2018-07-12 12:56:03 UTC

the us doesent have a caste system, money is our only messure of impersonal value assessement within the us

2018-07-12 12:56:10 UTC

Well in the caste system.....Imagine the government decided to give reparation to every possible minority

2018-07-12 12:56:21 UTC

That's what it's like here

2018-07-12 12:56:57 UTC

But caste doesn't really matter socially except in the most rural, backwards places in the country

2018-07-12 12:57:30 UTC

Otherwise, being a lower caste gives you a lot of rights

2018-07-12 12:57:35 UTC

i hear that india has one of the greatest wealth disparitys in the world

2018-07-12 12:57:42 UTC

You can get anyone arrested for insults

2018-07-12 12:57:54 UTC

so it might have a little effect on that

2018-07-12 12:57:55 UTC

It's literally law

2018-07-12 12:58:00 UTC

Hmmm sounds like a few other countries

2018-07-12 12:58:03 UTC

That sounds insane

2018-07-12 12:58:11 UTC

wow

2018-07-12 12:58:18 UTC

so its better to be low caste?

2018-07-12 12:58:18 UTC

*is insane

2018-07-12 12:58:37 UTC

the US does have a caste system to an extent,

working class, middle class, upper class

how many times do you see those actively be together and be equals

2018-07-12 12:59:11 UTC

i must prefered when you just got into a fist fight with someone who insults you rather than use the military budget of your country to do it for you

2018-07-12 12:59:37 UTC

@Dr.Wol America may have that but ...you have an opportunity to move up and down

2018-07-12 12:59:42 UTC

remember back when people would get into a fight and the cops would tell them to just go home

2018-07-12 12:59:48 UTC

now the cops arrest toddlers

2018-07-12 12:59:52 UTC

yes

2018-07-12 12:59:58 UTC

and yes Contro, its more open

2018-07-12 13:00:05 UTC

those 8 year olds could be terrorists

2018-07-12 13:00:17 UTC

Yeah but those toddlers are a public nuisance

2018-07-12 13:00:35 UTC

#woke 8 year olds are getting too #woke

2018-07-12 13:00:45 UTC

America has truly changed though compared to when we were in hs @Timcast

2018-07-12 13:00:47 UTC

@Timcast According to the SC/ST act, in the list of atrocities-
"intentionally insults or intimidates with intent to humiliate a member of
a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe in any place within public view;"

2018-07-12 13:01:18 UTC

The "How Dare You, Sir" Law

2018-07-12 13:01:22 UTC

so here is a question for you @Deleted User : Just how far above BPL do you need to be for private insurance to even start being a true viable option?

2018-07-12 13:01:29 UTC

You also get reserved seats in the parliament, quotas in every government service

2018-07-12 13:01:53 UTC

Lower cutoff marks in public exams

2018-07-12 13:02:20 UTC

America had that also its called challenging someone to a duel back in the day

2018-07-12 13:02:22 UTC

Also, I feel like we're skimming over the word "atrocity" being used to describe an insult

2018-07-12 13:02:45 UTC

america and europe

2018-07-12 13:02:54 UTC

and parts of asia

2018-07-12 13:03:17 UTC

@Grenade123 Well BPL is classified as โ‚น27000 per annum. So I'd say far above BPL

2018-07-12 13:03:50 UTC

@Dan V dont forget the word racist

2018-07-12 13:04:03 UTC

But then, if you slip the official a few bucks, they'll classify you as BPL

2018-07-12 13:04:14 UTC

So that's pretty much pointless

2018-07-12 13:04:57 UTC

@Rabbi Shekels I was referencing the SC/ST act mentioned by Shivangi above

2018-07-12 13:05:13 UTC

Oh my bad , thanks for clarifying though

2018-07-12 13:05:18 UTC

An insult is considered an atrocity lmao

2018-07-12 13:05:27 UTC

No worries ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-07-12 13:05:53 UTC

Geez thats nuts ^

2018-07-12 13:06:06 UTC

It's funny how feminists use India as an example of rape culture

2018-07-12 13:06:31 UTC

Because almost every single excuse they use to justify Sweden applies to us

2018-07-12 13:06:47 UTC

Hell, refusing to marry a woman is classified as rape in the criminal code

2018-07-12 13:06:48 UTC

@Deleted User the same feminists defend the muslims who treat woman as one half of men

2018-07-12 13:07:01 UTC

And she doesn't even have to file the report herself. The parents can do it

2018-07-12 13:07:17 UTC

wat no way

2018-07-12 13:07:22 UTC

how

2018-07-12 13:07:54 UTC

Oh and adultery is also rape

2018-07-12 13:08:25 UTC

Insert Princess Bride "You Keep Using That Word" Meme

2018-07-12 13:09:24 UTC

Isnt india the land of arranged marriages

2018-07-12 13:09:45 UTC

Yeahhh I dont get that. I mean the muslims here have been mostly decent unless you live in the more regressive areas.

2018-07-12 13:10:04 UTC

Like recently we had controversy around a 11 yo girl marriage.

2018-07-12 13:10:30 UTC

The rellious authority said not to focus on child marriage but to focus on lgbt

2018-07-12 13:11:00 UTC

Like seriously, statuatory rape is ok, but concentsual sex between two men is wrong.

2018-07-12 13:11:38 UTC

Because MAPS are people too

2018-07-12 13:11:48 UTC

Muh religious beliefs though

2018-07-12 13:12:25 UTC

I feel its the extreme believers , thats the problem

2018-07-12 13:12:27 UTC

Wasn't there an article about "maps are racist"?

2018-07-12 13:12:41 UTC

Because of "muh colon ialisms"

2018-07-12 13:13:21 UTC

That article sounds very anti-LGBT

2018-07-12 13:13:43 UTC

lol what a freudianesque typo there

2018-07-12 13:13:49 UTC

@Uksio you know thats a good point if we hadnโ€™t colonized other nations i wonder what the world would be like

2018-07-12 13:13:51 UTC

I will leave it though

2018-07-12 13:14:15 UTC

I feel like its human nature to want more

2018-07-12 13:14:18 UTC

I don't like how people frame India as some kind of right wing nation

2018-07-12 13:14:43 UTC

I do not think empires were one-sidedly evil

2018-07-12 13:14:53 UTC

I've never heard that take but my knowledge of India as a political power is extraordinarily limited

2018-07-12 13:15:15 UTC

Many of them forstered science, enlightenment and stopped small petty wars for vast regions of land for a while

2018-07-12 13:15:23 UTC

That's a net good IMO

2018-07-12 13:15:26 UTC

Like, even people I respect, like Karen Straughan, say India is right wing

2018-07-12 13:15:59 UTC

Sweden isn't half as cucked as india

2018-07-12 13:16:11 UTC

@Uksio Empires aren't good, or evil

2018-07-12 13:16:15 UTC

They're Amoral

2018-07-12 13:16:29 UTC

Some do more bad, some do more good

2018-07-12 13:16:31 UTC

Also: cultures will mix. And some culture will subdue another, just because *hรคshtรคg* cultures are not equal

2018-07-12 13:16:58 UTC

@Uksio in terms of western imperialism, they also abolished the practice of slavery

2018-07-12 13:16:58 UTC

Yes, I agree @Deleted User

2018-07-12 13:17:06 UTC

Good point

2018-07-12 13:17:12 UTC

Like, the Mongol Empire did more bad than good

2018-07-12 13:17:25 UTC

It is similar to the "guns kill people" argument

2018-07-12 13:17:36 UTC

But the British actually advanced almost every country they were overthrown by eventually

2018-07-12 13:17:59 UTC

Tools are tools, they are amoral. But the way ONE uses them is subject to moral judgement

2018-07-12 13:18:20 UTC

Same with "Corporations are evil"

2018-07-12 13:18:34 UTC

They aren't. They just want to make profit

2018-07-12 13:18:52 UTC

It doesn't matter what they do. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not

2018-07-12 13:18:58 UTC

Corporations become a bit psychopathic from a certain size, so maybe limiting the size could do them a favour

2018-07-12 13:19:11 UTC

A *bit*?

2018-07-12 13:19:14 UTC

Spreading responsibility thin does not do anyone favours

2018-07-12 13:19:21 UTC

They're entirely psychopathic man

2018-07-12 13:19:37 UTC

Empathy isn't a thing that corporations use

2018-07-12 13:19:41 UTC

I tend to be sarcastic, sorry

2018-07-12 13:19:46 UTC

Oh sorry

2018-07-12 13:20:39 UTC

What I found disturbing is that the "left" seems to be a willing puppet of the corporations

2018-07-12 13:20:40 UTC

Oh and about that retarded rape law, here's a link https://indiankanoon.org/doc/623254/

2018-07-12 13:20:56 UTC

A "gescheite Hans" puppet none the less

2018-07-12 13:21:03 UTC

The specific part I was talking about was point 4

2018-07-12 13:21:05 UTC

Anyway

2018-07-12 13:21:19 UTC

It's seems hilarious to me

2018-07-12 13:21:35 UTC

(It is a tale about the boy called Hans that did things so literally that he ruined his relationships with a girl)

2018-07-12 13:21:36 UTC

Women's day and pride month are just the new "festivals"

2018-07-12 13:21:49 UTC

Before, it was Christmas and halloween

2018-07-12 13:22:31 UTC

The left doens't realise it's a puppet, man

2018-07-12 13:22:46 UTC

The corporations are playing 5D chess

2018-07-12 13:22:54 UTC

I don't get how people can hold that "nazis are bad" and "pride month is good" in their head

2018-07-12 13:23:17 UTC

"We support gender equality! Why don't ya buy our gender equality badges!"

2018-07-12 13:23:25 UTC

Isn't pride month for your inherent characteristic kinda the same as that arian thing???

2018-07-12 13:23:29 UTC

luckely for us Trump is playing 2 temporal dimentional underwater texas holdem

2018-07-12 13:23:37 UTC

Lol

2018-07-12 13:23:48 UTC

I don't know if trump is an actual genius

2018-07-12 13:23:55 UTC

Or just an idiot

2018-07-12 13:24:03 UTC

But it's working out well

2018-07-12 13:24:10 UTC

you cant get his level of success and not be above average at least

2018-07-12 13:24:11 UTC

He's playing the media like a fiddle

2018-07-12 13:24:24 UTC

But then again I also fail to see how an athlete with their personal acheivements can represent a whole nation of unathletic people...

2018-07-12 13:24:36 UTC

he might not be as charismatic though, then again media might pick and chose his worst moments

2018-07-12 13:24:47 UTC

Stuff like the Melania jacket incident just gives me more evidence for the first case

2018-07-12 13:24:51 UTC

so i might be biased in that statement

2018-07-12 13:25:08 UTC

I wanna meet trump myself someday

2018-07-12 13:25:19 UTC

Trump is narcissistic, buffoon, self-aggrandising and petty. But he ain't a fool

2018-07-12 13:25:23 UTC

I've met Obama actually

2018-07-12 13:25:30 UTC

And he was nice

2018-07-12 13:25:40 UTC

damn muslim

2018-07-12 13:25:54 UTC

I think I still have Michelle's and Obama's autograph somewhere

2018-07-12 13:26:02 UTC

They were really nice people

2018-07-12 13:26:11 UTC

I sat next to a Bush in a german cafe

2018-07-12 13:26:12 UTC

should have made them sign their own death warrent

2018-07-12 13:26:29 UTC

Aww...Michelle wasn't that bad...

2018-07-12 13:26:34 UTC

I had one of those moments of "hmmmm, he looks like Bush... probably just a lookalike"

2018-07-12 13:26:38 UTC

But Obama seems evil to me now

2018-07-12 13:26:41 UTC

i imagine lots of german cafe's have bushes as part of their decor

2018-07-12 13:26:57 UTC

sat next to a bush lmao

2018-07-12 13:27:05 UTC

I can't believe he preached peace while bombing Syria

2018-07-12 13:27:19 UTC

A public cafe is the last place i'd expect to see the US ex-president

2018-07-12 13:27:24 UTC

26000 missiles dude

2018-07-12 13:28:25 UTC

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth I deleted your comment on killing, dont advocate for violence here

2018-07-12 13:28:31 UTC

even if its a joke

2018-07-12 13:28:43 UTC

I mean, would not George W.Bush of all people be kind of a target for some lunatics?

2018-07-12 13:28:49 UTC

oof

2018-07-12 13:28:52 UTC

fine

2018-07-12 13:29:25 UTC

Yeah there's a good chance Mike stuchberry is here now

2018-07-12 13:29:33 UTC

Noting down everything

2018-07-12 13:29:42 UTC

lol

2018-07-12 13:29:47 UTC

hes welcome to come hang out

2018-07-12 13:29:59 UTC

I invited him onto my podcast to only talk about things im doing wrong

2018-07-12 13:30:02 UTC

he ahsnt responded yet

2018-07-12 13:30:11 UTC

mike never goes on livestreams

2018-07-12 13:30:16 UTC

its not live

2018-07-12 13:30:28 UTC

dankula invites him more often then he goes to the toilet

2018-07-12 13:30:40 UTC

fragile masculinity

2018-07-12 13:30:44 UTC

I don't think he will come on, Tim. Mike doesn't have a good reputation of being open to debate

2018-07-12 13:30:46 UTC

Oof

2018-07-12 13:30:59 UTC

Except that Sargon thing at the day for freedom

2018-07-12 13:31:20 UTC

But that's probably because Sargon caught him at the right time

2018-07-12 13:31:31 UTC

i think mike also is one of those people that believes debating someone is legitimizing the opinion of the person you debate, QED he doesnt debate right wing peeps

2018-07-12 13:31:54 UTC

most people that comment on stuff are only good at a short phrase/sentence.. when you start getting down their argument, it's full of holes and they know that.. its why they won't debate

2018-07-12 13:32:06 UTC

well

2018-07-12 13:32:08 UTC

im not right wing

2018-07-12 13:32:09 UTC

Wow there are now SJW types against porn

2018-07-12 13:32:10 UTC

but thats his defense

2018-07-12 13:32:24 UTC

I thought only conservative people were anti-porn

2018-07-12 13:32:25 UTC

@Uksio Anti sex feminists. They've been a thing

2018-07-12 13:32:26 UTC

my dude, you prolly are to him

2018-07-12 13:32:26 UTC

that even though I say left wing shit it doesnt matter because of the subject amtter of my content

2018-07-12 13:32:27 UTC

rightwing in 2018 maybe

2018-07-12 13:32:44 UTC

rightwing is people to the right of the perspective of every individual lefty

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