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So only commercial pizza I give a shot about is dominos
papa johns only had good garlic sauce
Also actual good pizza requires going to non franchise places
That have wacky pizzas like taco tuesday
Or yiros
i used to work pizza hut
Or stranger things
I'd still eat it
All flavourful
Think pizza hut is dead in my country
^context for Papa Johns
I mean from what I read a while ago Sanders was a bit of a cunt
So was McDonald's guy
The movie about him was really great
Ultimately I find the whole 'say bad word get fired' to be dumb
PR is a bitch
This is why I stopped listening to AA
He's so damn hyperbolic
That's a straw man.
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universal healthcare bad, public option good
i guess this is why im a social liberal and not a social democrat
universal healthcare in the sense that we have no private insurance I mean
I think we should have a public option because competition is good and it can be publicly controlled
it will be susceptible to corruption but what isnt
straigt up nationla healthcare is just another service and will be only somewhat different than private
and without competition will likely become bloated and wasteful
your not really going to get any reasonible discussion out of tj. he literally does this all the time. my first criticism of his stance would start with why conservitives arnt immediately interested in shifting the system which trillions of dollors of the federal budget is already tied up into, into a new system would probably be that they are afraid any change that is not incramental could have devistating consaquences that worsen the situation for everyone
people who do not know how the healthcare system works, and where the inflated cost is coming from, should probably not be the ones designing a system to decrease these inflated costs.
also, why do be people see health insurance as a must?
progressive solutions tend to be rash and when they dont go exactly according to plan they overreact and make the situation even worse by compensating to far for a hole in the boat by taking chunks off the side of the boat to plug it
one upon a time, you'd just pay the doctor when you visited them, or the hospital when you visited them. not a monthly fee AND every time you visit
I'm interested to see how much people spend on insurance on average, vs how much it would have cost them to just pay the doctors and hospitals. And see what the difference is. And see if it would have been better for them to take out medical loans, vs paying this stupid monthly fee.
health insurence is very useful to the lower classes because they cannot compete with those who can take the random chance of life throwing a 10000$+ medical bill at them
Well I can state how it works here, since it isn't that bad here
There's a public healthcare system
But there's also private hospitals
like, i'm wondering if paying off a loan+interest over time would still be cheaper than paying a monthly fee
If you want cheap healthcare and are poor, go public
If you have the money, go private
where is "here", exactly?
it might be but the idea is to pay more over 40 years of your working life rather than pay less over 5-10 years
India
You have health insurance options, but it isn't necessary
And for people who are BPL, the costs are lower in public hospitals
BPL means Below Poverty Line.
i think the middle class tends to have the most problems with 2 system healthcare due to the public healthcare being able to become more relaxed in what it provides due to the people who pay into it also being very financaly strained while the private systems dont really need to be as competitive because the group they compete over eachother with have far more than what they would if everyone in the country only had private options
This is a confused chaotic quasi socialist country, I don't know what this system is called
i would agree, Arch.
the middle class always gets screwed
though maybe the middle class can do that loan thing grenade suggested
to quote George Carlin: "The upper class doesn't none of the work, takes all the of money. The middle class does all the work, pays all the taxes, and the lower class.... is just there to scare the shit out of the middle class"
yeah thats not true but i do agree in this case the middle class is not appreciated well
what we really need is a government that decides what we can do and when, what we can say and why. We need a powerful central authority to control the economy and security and we should strive to spread out way of life all over the world. Slowly but surely we will create a powerful union of nations under the leadership of military rule. Communism of course, or wait was that called fascism I get confused sometimes because they function so similarly
its not entirely true, no. but its also a joke
Lol that's very accurate
Well Tim....communism isn't meant to be fascism. That argument doesn't really work against communists
no no no, its called "Not Real Communism/Socialism"
oh its not against communists its a joke
NRC/ NRS
Oh okie, sorry!
@Deleted User what happens if a person in the lowest caste becomes rich off the internet?
they get called a Nigerian Prince?
communism usually goes through and kills everyone who owns a bussiness, fascists usually give you the choice to join or die
He is only concerned with the problems with the lowest class?
Or she
no I mean just in general
Hmm
can a super poor person move up?
he'll be spat upon by everyone else,
The rich wont accept him cuz he was pleb-born
the poor hate him for his success
Well... I'd say yes, but it's possible I'm wrong
what if they are welded together rather than caste?
I'm not really familiar with America. Here, I'd say they could definitely move upwards
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But what do you think, Tim?
its not caste based,
Everyone loves people below them, they despise people above them
I dont know much about the caste system but in the US people make it seem like if youre born in the lowest youre not allowed to do certain things
Which is not true...
the us doesent have a caste system, money is our only messure of impersonal value assessement within the us
Well in the caste system.....Imagine the government decided to give reparation to every possible minority
That's what it's like here
But caste doesn't really matter socially except in the most rural, backwards places in the country
Otherwise, being a lower caste gives you a lot of rights
i hear that india has one of the greatest wealth disparitys in the world
You can get anyone arrested for insults
so it might have a little effect on that
It's literally law
Hmmm sounds like a few other countries
That sounds insane
wow
so its better to be low caste?
*is insane
the US does have a caste system to an extent,
working class, middle class, upper class
how many times do you see those actively be together and be equals
i must prefered when you just got into a fist fight with someone who insults you rather than use the military budget of your country to do it for you
@Dr.Wol America may have that but ...you have an opportunity to move up and down
remember back when people would get into a fight and the cops would tell them to just go home
now the cops arrest toddlers
yes
and yes Contro, its more open
those 8 year olds could be terrorists
Yeah but those toddlers are a public nuisance
#woke 8 year olds are getting too #woke
America has truly changed though compared to when we were in hs @Timcast
@Timcast According to the SC/ST act, in the list of atrocities-
"intentionally insults or intimidates with intent to humiliate a member of
a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe in any place within public view;"
The "How Dare You, Sir" Law
so here is a question for you @Deleted User : Just how far above BPL do you need to be for private insurance to even start being a true viable option?
You also get reserved seats in the parliament, quotas in every government service
Lower cutoff marks in public exams
America had that also its called challenging someone to a duel back in the day
Also, I feel like we're skimming over the word "atrocity" being used to describe an insult
america and europe
and parts of asia
@Grenade123 Well BPL is classified as โน27000 per annum. So I'd say far above BPL
@Dan V dont forget the word racist
But then, if you slip the official a few bucks, they'll classify you as BPL
So that's pretty much pointless
@Rabbi Shekels I was referencing the SC/ST act mentioned by Shivangi above
Oh my bad , thanks for clarifying though
An insult is considered an atrocity lmao
No worries ๐
Geez thats nuts ^
It's funny how feminists use India as an example of rape culture
Because almost every single excuse they use to justify Sweden applies to us
Hell, refusing to marry a woman is classified as rape in the criminal code
@Deleted User the same feminists defend the muslims who treat woman as one half of men
And she doesn't even have to file the report herself. The parents can do it
wat no way
how
Oh and adultery is also rape
Insert Princess Bride "You Keep Using That Word" Meme
Isnt india the land of arranged marriages
Yeahhh I dont get that. I mean the muslims here have been mostly decent unless you live in the more regressive areas.
Like recently we had controversy around a 11 yo girl marriage.
The rellious authority said not to focus on child marriage but to focus on lgbt
Like seriously, statuatory rape is ok, but concentsual sex between two men is wrong.
Because MAPS are people too
Muh religious beliefs though
I feel its the extreme believers , thats the problem
Wasn't there an article about "maps are racist"?
Because of "muh colon ialisms"
That article sounds very anti-LGBT
lol what a freudianesque typo there
@Uksio you know thats a good point if we hadnโt colonized other nations i wonder what the world would be like
I will leave it though
I feel like its human nature to want more
I don't like how people frame India as some kind of right wing nation
I do not think empires were one-sidedly evil
I've never heard that take but my knowledge of India as a political power is extraordinarily limited
Many of them forstered science, enlightenment and stopped small petty wars for vast regions of land for a while
That's a net good IMO
Like, even people I respect, like Karen Straughan, say India is right wing
Sweden isn't half as cucked as india
@Uksio Empires aren't good, or evil
They're Amoral
Some do more bad, some do more good
Also: cultures will mix. And some culture will subdue another, just because *hรคshtรคg* cultures are not equal
@Uksio in terms of western imperialism, they also abolished the practice of slavery
Yes, I agree @Deleted User
Good point
Like, the Mongol Empire did more bad than good
It is similar to the "guns kill people" argument
But the British actually advanced almost every country they were overthrown by eventually
Tools are tools, they are amoral. But the way ONE uses them is subject to moral judgement
Same with "Corporations are evil"
They aren't. They just want to make profit
It doesn't matter what they do. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not
Corporations become a bit psychopathic from a certain size, so maybe limiting the size could do them a favour
A *bit*?
Spreading responsibility thin does not do anyone favours
They're entirely psychopathic man
Empathy isn't a thing that corporations use
I tend to be sarcastic, sorry
Oh sorry
What I found disturbing is that the "left" seems to be a willing puppet of the corporations
Oh and about that retarded rape law, here's a link https://indiankanoon.org/doc/623254/
A "gescheite Hans" puppet none the less
The specific part I was talking about was point 4
Anyway
It's seems hilarious to me
(It is a tale about the boy called Hans that did things so literally that he ruined his relationships with a girl)
Women's day and pride month are just the new "festivals"
Before, it was Christmas and halloween
The left doens't realise it's a puppet, man
The corporations are playing 5D chess
I don't get how people can hold that "nazis are bad" and "pride month is good" in their head
"We support gender equality! Why don't ya buy our gender equality badges!"
Isn't pride month for your inherent characteristic kinda the same as that arian thing???
luckely for us Trump is playing 2 temporal dimentional underwater texas holdem
Lol
I don't know if trump is an actual genius
Or just an idiot
But it's working out well
you cant get his level of success and not be above average at least
He's playing the media like a fiddle
But then again I also fail to see how an athlete with their personal acheivements can represent a whole nation of unathletic people...
he might not be as charismatic though, then again media might pick and chose his worst moments
Stuff like the Melania jacket incident just gives me more evidence for the first case
so i might be biased in that statement
I wanna meet trump myself someday
Trump is narcissistic, buffoon, self-aggrandising and petty. But he ain't a fool
I've met Obama actually
And he was nice
damn muslim
I think I still have Michelle's and Obama's autograph somewhere
They were really nice people
I sat next to a Bush in a german cafe
should have made them sign their own death warrent
Aww...Michelle wasn't that bad...
I had one of those moments of "hmmmm, he looks like Bush... probably just a lookalike"
But Obama seems evil to me now
i imagine lots of german cafe's have bushes as part of their decor
sat next to a bush lmao
I can't believe he preached peace while bombing Syria
A public cafe is the last place i'd expect to see the US ex-president
26000 missiles dude
@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth I deleted your comment on killing, dont advocate for violence here
even if its a joke
I mean, would not George W.Bush of all people be kind of a target for some lunatics?
oof
fine
Yeah there's a good chance Mike stuchberry is here now
Noting down everything
lol
hes welcome to come hang out
I invited him onto my podcast to only talk about things im doing wrong
he ahsnt responded yet
mike never goes on livestreams
its not live
dankula invites him more often then he goes to the toilet
fragile masculinity
I don't think he will come on, Tim. Mike doesn't have a good reputation of being open to debate
Oof
Except that Sargon thing at the day for freedom
But that's probably because Sargon caught him at the right time
i think mike also is one of those people that believes debating someone is legitimizing the opinion of the person you debate, QED he doesnt debate right wing peeps
most people that comment on stuff are only good at a short phrase/sentence.. when you start getting down their argument, it's full of holes and they know that.. its why they won't debate
well
im not right wing
Wow there are now SJW types against porn
but thats his defense
I thought only conservative people were anti-porn
@Uksio Anti sex feminists. They've been a thing
my dude, you prolly are to him
that even though I say left wing shit it doesnt matter because of the subject amtter of my content
rightwing in 2018 maybe
rightwing is people to the right of the perspective of every individual lefty
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