Everyone is kept in a constant hedonistic cycle by the state

1984 is the "stick"

reminder during the French Revolution, revolutionaries actively destroyed religious structures and replaced them with secular ones

take the Paris Pantheon for example

I see religion as necessary evil

all the statues were changed

it can be used for horrible purposes

but several more use it to find a purpose

in life

I don't agree, I don't think we need religion for meaning, or morality.

and have hope

BNW also has strict castes, Christianity would run in opposition to that

I would agree that we don't need religion for those things, but I think we've done a poor job of replacing it

Like....I don't want people to be religious

but there's no easier alternative

I don't hugely care if people are religious

I feel like there is, spatiality (for lack of a better word) doesn't need any of the trappings of religion.

That's one of my major problems with Jordan peterson.

Jordan Peterson accepts the existence of nonreligious cohesion

what is spatiality

Otherwise he'd hate Nietzsche

And it's pretty clear his second biggest boner topic after Jung is Nietzsche

I don't know about jbp man

he's like verbal hitchens

Yeah, but I feel that the whole concept of god is problematic in forwarding the research into conciseness.

Doubly clear if you read 12 Rules, where he directly quotes Jung and specifically Thus Spoke Zarathustra

I feel so dumb saying this

@Deleted User To be fair Hitchens is verbal hitchens too.

Well you also have to take into account how Peterson compartmentalizes God

But I don't understand most of the stuff he says

Which is as a sort of force

@Deleted User read Nietzsche and it will become pretty clear

Hitchens was atleast easier

Don't feel dumb, it's a lot of word salad.

Look into Freud and Jung just a tad and you'll be set

to understand

He actually summarizes them pretty well

Not to say he doesn't make good point, I'm just saying it's in a lot of word salad.

Word salad means there are no points

He's taking concepts that are explained in 200+ page books and bringing them down to hour long lectures

I think he's about as precise as he can be a lot of the time

i.e- All feminist literature

No.

I know what word salad is

Everyday Feminism is not word salad.

jbp definistely isn't word salad

It make extreamly clear points.

LITERATURE

LIT

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lol

Okay.

NOT A FUCKING NEWS WEBSITE

No it's a book.

It was written by Bell Hooks.

Oh

I would disagree that Peterson is unintelligible

No I mean stuff like black anality

and the conceptual penis

feminist academia

oh and furry sciences

Oh yeah, I know what you mean, that stuff just makes my eyes gloss over.

A lot of critical theory analysis does honestly end up boiling down to word salad

i know this sounds crazy but i remember when playing the Enderal Mod for Skyrim one of the NPCs said something along the lines of "if your religion teaches you to be kind to eachother but at the same time encourage malevolent behavior towards non believers then your beliefs are flawed and not worth following" or something like that its been awhile so i dont remember exactly

Michael eric dyson is word salad

And you know it does for sure because the authors come out later and say "holy shit I was a pretentious asshole"

Yes

Dyson was just WOW

Though he swaps between that and raw pretentious rambling

Friedrich Nietzsche is someone JBP references all the time, and I tried reading Beyond Good and Evil, and just couldn't even.

Like it's a dense fucking book.

You don't need 30 words to say "but racism is real"

I still haven't read BG&E

I got that book recently

Just Zarathustra 2x

I hear he makes a lot of references to other philosophers

But Zarathustra is fucking gold

and Marcus Aruelius meditations

best emp

have the commie manifesto too

know your enemy

lel

Dont read anything from julius ceasar, it just about grain

Like "Of all evil I deem you capable: Therefore I want good from you. Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws"

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn That was the other guy JBP mentions a lot.

Commie Manifesto is the most boring shit I've ever read

I have the Gulag Archipelago. Its a tough read

And The Gulag Archipelago

Yeah

Blackpill shit

I haven't tried yet.

and some of Marx's manuscripts and excerpts from Capital in an old college book that compiled a bunch of political philosophers

It's just so absurd and evil

Like it's comically evil, but it's real

I got Wealth of Nations and the Communist Manifesto in the same purchase lel

Wew

two vaaastly different beliefs

And then War and Peace.

Is another one.

Like all of the shit that he references from takes just a lot of effort man.

I did actually pick some Dostoyevsky up

got two copies of The Prince

The Prince is baller

But you don't need to read Tolstoy or Dostoyevsky to understand Peterson

of bel aire?

Machiavellianism can go to far imo but otherwise i think he makes good points

War and Peace was 2thicc4me

It's just Nietzsche, Jung, Bible really

And you don't need an in depth understanding of the bible unless you want to debate him on his interpretation

Which I've heard is somewhat suspect at times

Yeah, but Nietzsche is fucking impenetrable, with out a study guide for each god damn page.

I dunno about that

damn flash lol

See if you can deal with the Graham Parkes version of Zarathustra

I've read bits of the republic never finished it though.

That really big one is the compilation

There's probably a PDF if you wanna try ASAP

had to get it for one of my PolySci classes

shit was haaaard

@Beemann https://www.amazon.com/Thus-Spoke-Zarathustra-Everyone-Classics-ebook/dp/B00BBFO91Y ?

Yes, that's the exact version I have

I read it first when I was in highschool, and I didn't pick up all of it but I did get through it

Think this is propaganda enough lol

Then read it again this last year. Just go slow

Juuust look at it

And don't worry if Eternal Recurrence seems to come out of nowhere lol

I read the manifesto online because I'm not paying for that shit

Same with Mein Kampf, which I need to finish

I got my PDF from a wehraboo. Apparently it's an extra special sekrit edition from POW camps

I got it on sale and with Wealth of Nations so

It's also a better read than the Manifesto so far

i figured fuck it

I read the Communist Manifesto, and the criticism laid out in it are perfectly legit.

His perceptions are the problem.

The mainfesto is more a handbook than an actual detailed analysis

thats what Capital is for

Ive only read bits of Capital though

Alright I should have gone to bed like 90 min. ago.

dont have the whole thing

saaaaaame

Have a good one. I added that book yo my wish list.

night

👌

Night

ive been trying to find some modern people but im worried they are all gonna be intersectionalists

Oh like modern writers?

mind you i guess it would not hurt to understand it better

yea

on politics

I've got one of Jonah Goldberg's books but I haven't read it yet

He's a rightie

Sowell is still around isn't he?

He isn't dead yet

Hans Herman Hoppe

he;s been on Rubin

88 years old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5daNMXer2UQ

if this is him

Yeah

ill look into him

I still need to read his stuff. I've only heard his talks

Hoppe is neat but I find him a bit dry so far

i got a couple seemingly liberals talking about their problems books

like self-reflective

thanks

for the recommendations

Also Hayek died in 92 but I really did like The Fatal Conceit

now i gtg work tomorrow lol

night

Later

Hey if anyone meets john wick

show him this

I want people like this to leave the West and join the countries they seem to so clearly value more

OR Set up a commie colony in the middle of Canada or Australia

You can be as socialist and degenerate as you like, but only in this 10mile radius. Enjoy

souns like burning man festival

iF you are gonna go there, you know whats more of a parasite? Illegal aliens

CROATIA WON

YAAAAY

It was a pretty foul heavy game

Amazed no one got thrown out

Welp

I'm still mad they didnt have a scene of luke, Leia, and han together

Honestly, I don't think any of them wanted to be in the new movies at all

Book conversation is over, but every American should really read Common Sense. It's the pamphlet that convinced the founding fathers not just that we deserve better, but deserve independence. It's the largest selling piece of literature(per capita) in US history

An easy read that's not too long

*he's dead*

So croatia won. Were they known for soccer before?

sjiaiodjaisoiaos

Id say its good. England has really went downhill in general.

I thought it was the bible

Jesus fuck https://thewire.in/politics/abhimanyus-murder-highlights-the-changing-face-of-campus-politics-in-kerala

Tldr?

Commie got stabbed by a social democrat

What a crazy world we live in

15-20 carried out the attack it says

I feel bad for the mom

according to the leader of their group it was a fight between two groups, one of 100 and one of 15, and someone in the small group had a knife

But that could just be a lie to make it seem justified

I don't think it's a lie

Kerala police has very....Effective interrogation tactics

Namely, taking the suspects, stripping them naked, and beating the shit out of them

so you're saying my ex was Kerala police? 🤔

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4Iwuop2SpaU/VwrJ_qkp-hI/AAAAAAAA9PE/ipf8Ykkl7dcLYBxj5-wIXCVqjXDNa69KQ/s640/1%2B1ninetymilesrNONx1rsxqqio1_500The%2Bassassination%2Bof%2BJapanese%2Bpolitician%2BInejiro%2BAsanuma.gif Like this then?

he ded, liek so ded

Kid was 17 when he did that.

Chineese antifa you say?

The guy who was stabbed was a commie

And the kid was a member of some nationalist group

so Profa? 😛

Pretty much.

Japan has a funny relationship with nazis

Though to be specific, yeah kid was part of some right wing ultranationalist party.

ALso, you notice the flash in that gif? Some guy took a photo at that exact moment.

I thought that was just an Anime shockwave

Nah, some cameraman took the photo and won a pulitzer prize for it.

Funny, hes only famous for that one pic

reminds me of this one

Theres that one of the vulture staring at a kid

Or the one with the dead kid that drowned.

What are you gays talking about

🤔

ethically questionable photos i think?

the vulture + girl photographer (Kevin Carter) unfortunately committed suicide at only 33. "I'm really, really sorry. The pain of life overrides the joy to the point that joy does not exist. ...depressed ... without phone ... money for rent ... money for child support ... money for debts ... money!!! ... I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners ... I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky. "

Welp

sad thing is his photo is arguably the least unethical of these, he used a supertelephoto so the vulture was actually quite far from the girl despite looking like it was close

Another one bites the dust

You talked of a commie getting stabbed

So I provided another instance of one getting stabbed.

This time by some ultranationalist.

Oh it's the Japanese man

Or Chinese

I don't know

Nah its japan

Its a pretty significant event.

Some far left commie Jap was giving a speech. The leader of the commie movement in Japan.

I remember reading about it on wikipedia, years ago

Midway through the speech, a kid ran him through with a sword.

I say kid, he was 17 when he did that

That event arguably was what destroyed the socialist movement in Japan.

Communist movement I mean

Lol this is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wpvt3sdXcs

Oh hell yeah, fuck them

I dont usually endorse worshipping the govt. But in this case, the arrests were deserved.

I don't worship the gov but when they do something right I'm happy with it.