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2018-09-12 10:26:14 UTC

The indie scene will save art and the freedom of information

2018-09-12 10:26:46 UTC

If Articles 11 and 13 go through the indie scene is gonna explode because word-of-mouth, chatrooms and local communities are gonna be how you hear about stuff

2018-09-12 10:27:02 UTC

when will people realize, that if you give attention to things you hate, you bring attention to it, and then people who dislike you will support it just out of spite for you, and then other people will see it

2018-09-12 10:27:40 UTC

its best to ignore it in the hopes no one else likes it and it fades from view

2018-09-12 10:28:11 UTC

i remember when catcher in the rye was considered banned

2018-09-12 10:28:28 UTC

kids would go out of their way to find it just because it was banned

2018-09-12 10:28:35 UTC

The other thing is that censorship works only if people are willing to take part in it. As you said- back then people were not willing to do that so all atemps failed

2018-09-12 10:28:39 UTC

and its a boring af book.

2018-09-12 10:30:07 UTC

So yeah

2018-09-12 10:30:18 UTC

It's like

2018-09-12 10:30:28 UTC

Suppression just makes the communities you're trying to eradicate closer

2018-09-12 10:30:44 UTC

Underground music is gonna absolutely blow up, which I'm excited for as an up-and-coming rock vocalist lmao

2018-09-12 10:31:09 UTC

rock became mainstream and sort of died off.

2018-09-12 10:31:26 UTC

need to bring back the old parents calling it satans music, make it cool again

2018-09-12 10:31:38 UTC

oh wait, we have SJWs to call it bigot's music

2018-09-12 10:32:15 UTC

My whole schtick with rock is like, it's lost its spirit nowadays

2018-09-12 10:32:26 UTC

Most people who play rock that I've met in the Birmingham scene at least are all like

2018-09-12 10:32:38 UTC

"I wanna be famous", "I want people to notice me"

2018-09-12 10:32:56 UTC

Rock was about authenticity, being free to be who you are, embracing that outside of the mainstream

2018-09-12 10:33:06 UTC

Purposeful counterculture to prove a point

2018-09-12 10:33:19 UTC

It was intellectual, in some ways poetically and in some ways scholarly

2018-09-12 10:33:38 UTC

It's all stoners and cokeheads, no substance

2018-09-12 10:33:49 UTC

They like the scene and image but don't understand what it truly is

2018-09-12 10:34:09 UTC

And do what you like, be free, that's the point of rock, but... be authentic

2018-09-12 10:34:14 UTC

Stop being fake, stop focusing on the money

2018-09-12 10:34:17 UTC

That's why rock died

2018-09-12 10:34:22 UTC

Grunge made everyone too sad to care

2018-09-12 10:34:27 UTC

Then everyone got stoned or OD'd

2018-09-12 10:35:37 UTC

Now in my generation of rock, you have idiot anarchists, emos who aren't saying anything, or drugged-up posers. No inbetween, no exception, except POSSIBLY Greta Van Fleet who are actually very talented, and indie rockers who get ignored

2018-09-12 10:36:45 UTC

And that's what I wanna do. Grab the world by the balls and tell em straight, "Fuck you, I reject what you're forcing me to be and do and say". These sons of bitches can play rock til the day they die but they'll never be rockstars, yknow?

2018-09-12 10:36:57 UTC

I don't wanna play rock, I wanna be a rockstar. And that's what a rockstar was

2018-09-12 10:37:14 UTC

Someone who was told their place and said "No"

2018-09-12 10:37:51 UTC

/rant

2018-09-12 10:38:16 UTC

TLDR Rockers stopped standing for freedom and started being illogical ideologues, apathetic wasters or sellout bitches. Not me

2018-09-12 10:41:01 UTC

you know what is funny? i used to listen to a punk band that used to talk about people in real need, like farmers fucked over by corporate farms and the subsidies the government gives them, or poor people having trouble finding work.

2018-09-12 10:41:32 UTC

used to cover everyone in the shit (Although they still had a pretty activist vibe)

2018-09-12 10:42:18 UTC

but in the recent years and with trump elected, they joined the more fuck trump side and i'm just like "you are saying fuck you to the people you used to claim you wanted to help, wtf?"

2018-09-12 10:42:49 UTC

They're sellout lefty crybabies with no principles, from the sounds of things

2018-09-12 10:42:55 UTC

I don't agree with a lot of what Trump does

2018-09-12 10:43:06 UTC

I think his denial of climate change is very startling

2018-09-12 10:43:11 UTC

Or at least, his cabinet's

2018-09-12 10:43:18 UTC

well a member or two were members of PETA so... lmao

2018-09-12 10:43:23 UTC

But he did amazing for industry like he promised

2018-09-12 10:43:23 UTC

LOL

2018-09-12 10:43:27 UTC

Peta are fucking horrendous

2018-09-12 10:43:30 UTC

they are

2018-09-12 10:44:07 UTC

"we are for animals!"
>owns the largest number of kill shelters
"FREE THE ANIMALS"
>cause mass death of the freed animals or an ecological disaster

2018-09-12 10:44:09 UTC

Those feels when you save animals by killing them so they can't die

2018-09-12 10:46:21 UTC

to be fair, I don't blame some of these people because they would hear all this BS from Alarmist who would take the actual studies which would say like "in 100 years, this will happen" and then turn around an say "IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!"

2018-09-12 10:50:45 UTC

Punk is a bunch of sissies nowadays, for the most part

2018-09-12 10:50:58 UTC

Angry confused teenagers complaining about what they *think* is happening

2018-09-12 10:51:46 UTC

to be fair, that has been most of punk for a long time, there is just less of the bands where what they think is happening and what is happening lined up

2018-09-12 10:52:30 UTC

I'm gonna break the mold, be it core punk or a punk message through metal

2018-09-12 10:52:55 UTC

If I sound overly ambitious, well, I gotta be, it's music

2018-09-12 10:53:09 UTC

I wanna be the right-wing, educated equivalent of Rage Against The Machine

2018-09-12 10:53:11 UTC

find a swede to produce your music

2018-09-12 10:53:24 UTC

I need a band who aren't SJWs or shitheads first

2018-09-12 10:53:34 UTC

i'm sure there will be plenty jumping ship soon

2018-09-12 10:56:29 UTC

Hell, I just need a guitarist, bassist and drummer who can do what they're told

2018-09-12 10:56:36 UTC

As diva as that sounds

2018-09-12 10:56:59 UTC

Leftist musicians are quite undisciplined unless they're SJW or genuinely passionate over music, I've found, at least at my age

2018-09-12 10:57:20 UTC

My last band I was with for a year and you know what we learned over the space of a year?

2018-09-12 10:57:31 UTC

Half of Nothing Else Matters by Metallica

2018-09-12 10:57:43 UTC

And then an Iron Maiden song outside of my range

2018-09-12 10:57:47 UTC

So I couldn't sing it

2018-09-12 10:57:56 UTC

Over a *year*

2018-09-12 10:58:27 UTC

RIP

2018-09-12 10:59:27 UTC

I mean I'm excited for all the punk music I can write about this but I am heartbroken and astonished

2018-09-12 10:59:57 UTC

Thanks for keeping us informed @Atkins

2018-09-12 11:00:03 UTC

Fuck, brb, need ti check how exactly one apply for a visa...

2018-09-12 11:00:46 UTC

At least this gives people a good reason to support hard brexit.

2018-09-12 11:00:49 UTC

It's like this every single time with europe and canada.

2018-09-12 11:01:01 UTC

Everyone acknowledges it's a disaster. It passes.

2018-09-12 11:01:05 UTC

Fucking boomers, every fucking time.

2018-09-12 11:01:06 UTC

I was gonna marry my girlfriend in a few years once we had enough money and we'd finished our degrees, but I genuinely might marry her next year while she's on holiday here and flee to the USA

2018-09-12 11:01:31 UTC

will they be affected in time to get a hard brexit

2018-09-12 11:01:46 UTC

Voss is a rat

2018-09-12 11:02:42 UTC

be sure to avoid ICE, we will try and deport you

2018-09-12 11:02:44 UTC

The best you can hope for now, is for a big posterchild of justice to come out of this sooner rather than later.

2018-09-12 11:02:57 UTC

I'm Irish with a British passport, ICE won't look twice at me

2018-09-12 11:03:02 UTC

Another Count Dankula that the media can only lie about, while average citizens see the truth.

2018-09-12 11:03:13 UTC

naw, you don't understand, the left won't protect you then

2018-09-12 11:04:34 UTC

I need freedom god damn it

2018-09-12 11:04:36 UTC

Babel is so cool as a thing.

2018-09-12 11:04:41 UTC

It's a shame religion has made it... lame.

2018-09-12 11:04:43 UTC

Don't worry I won't come to the USA until I can actually contribute to the country

2018-09-12 11:04:55 UTC

I will not be a leech on a country I admire

2018-09-12 11:05:15 UTC

Sad part is that most european citizen doesnt give a fuck about EU parliament

2018-09-12 11:05:36 UTC

As well as laws that is being pushed thru it

2018-09-12 11:06:03 UTC

"we just wanted to play games, but you fucked with us and now we are here"

2018-09-12 11:07:06 UTC

Hey so what do you guys think will happen? Will international online companies comply or pull out?

2018-09-12 11:11:32 UTC

Facebook will comply, and perhaps Google. I don't think smaller companies are going to be able to.

2018-09-12 11:12:14 UTC

This legislation seems to have been created with the capabilities of the biggest firms in mind, and the idea of bullying smaller firms into surrendering control over content to the biggest firms.

2018-09-12 11:13:01 UTC

If you run a phpBB forum, you can't possibly identify AND remove copyrighted material within one hour.

2018-09-12 11:13:43 UTC

if you have a closed forum it cant be reported

2018-09-12 11:13:48 UTC

So they'll have to get some sort of plugin that outsources the burden of identifying copyrighted material to some massive firm with a huge AI.

2018-09-12 11:14:10 UTC

Google has bots that crawl the internet for copyrighted material.

2018-09-12 11:14:19 UTC

watch even google get fucked over

2018-09-12 11:14:31 UTC

willing to bet the EU will not be happy with youtubes system

2018-09-12 11:14:34 UTC

No Google already has a turnkey solution for this.

2018-09-12 11:14:35 UTC

they want to destroy the open internet

2018-09-12 11:14:38 UTC

and the open discource

2018-09-12 11:14:43 UTC

only allowed speech will be legal

2018-09-12 11:15:01 UTC

enjoy europeans

2018-09-12 11:15:14 UTC

enjoy near everyone

2018-09-12 11:15:26 UTC

fuck, say goodbye to videogame mods

2018-09-12 11:15:27 UTC

But yeah ^ the big concern would be once the infrastructure is in place this would be worse than 1984's telescreens for thought policing.

2018-09-12 11:15:32 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/489393624140873728/image0.png

2018-09-12 11:15:34 UTC

Fuck

2018-09-12 11:16:30 UTC

It appears Article 11 passed as well. Smaller firms can't possibly pay per link.

2018-09-12 11:16:42 UTC

This solidifies big tech monopoly.

2018-09-12 11:17:00 UTC

thought dank said all other articles failed

2018-09-12 11:17:04 UTC

It's a massive burden on any start-up to comply with this nonsense, moral issues aside.

2018-09-12 11:17:17 UTC

oh, almost all

2018-09-12 11:17:27 UTC

let me get link

2018-09-12 11:18:18 UTC

can like the US file a lawsuit against the EU for this if it affects too many Americans?

2018-09-12 11:18:33 UTC

This is where corporations will run the world be prepared guys at least we will have some cyberpunk 2077 or weyland yutani

2018-09-12 11:19:02 UTC

too bad this doesn't affect fox and friends or else we could get trump to threaten war

2018-09-12 11:20:02 UTC

As long as america does this same, this horseshit cannot possibly be permanent.

2018-09-12 11:20:06 UTC

Too much envy.

2018-09-12 11:21:09 UTC

wait.. it passed.... hoo boy

2018-09-12 11:21:45 UTC

Funeral for free speech in Talk Room 1 lol

2018-09-12 11:21:48 UTC

*2

2018-09-12 11:22:00 UTC

Yeah @Grenade123 i hope trump says something about it

2018-09-12 11:22:23 UTC

trump needs to cut the money us is pumping into eu

2018-09-12 11:22:28 UTC

So I wonder how this immediately affects Sargon's videos.

2018-09-12 11:22:44 UTC

Or.. is there a date where it comes into effect

2018-09-12 11:23:04 UTC

Maybe the EU will collapse before implementation

2018-09-12 11:24:19 UTC

Hopefully ^

2018-09-12 11:26:25 UTC

The rest of the Eastern Block dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate EU

2018-09-12 11:26:35 UTC

OH FUCK

2018-09-12 11:26:38 UTC

I JUST HAD A THOUGHT

2018-09-12 11:26:45 UTC

We know the EU is getting more authoritarian right?

2018-09-12 11:27:05 UTC

What if the link tax is so much so that smaller countries find it increasingly expensive to actually run news networks

2018-09-12 11:27:13 UTC

*and they set up centralised EU news channels*

2018-09-12 11:28:03 UTC

i'm wondering if all the news orgs will find this doesn't benefit them like they thought.

2018-09-12 11:28:16 UTC

and i wonder if that is the goal to make the EUPN

2018-09-12 11:28:22 UTC

EU propaganda Network

2018-09-12 11:28:45 UTC

I think so

2018-09-12 11:28:55 UTC

So now Hungary case will go for a vote among EU countries leaders, i think Italy and Poland will block it

2018-09-12 11:29:24 UTC

Thank fuck for Brexit, just gotta get out of the UK before the EU invades, woop woop

2018-09-12 11:29:31 UTC

Unless they would decide to exlude Poland from voting

2018-09-12 11:29:34 UTC

Time to learn German boiiiiiii

2018-09-12 11:29:41 UTC

Ok so the EU just decided to kill the internet

2018-09-12 11:29:47 UTC

Which would be master dick move, but also very smart move

2018-09-12 11:29:54 UTC

EU already has state news

2018-09-12 11:30:04 UTC

in the netherlands, the media is funded by the state

2018-09-12 11:30:06 UTC

Yeah but it'd be more prominent

2018-09-12 11:30:14 UTC

Like

2018-09-12 11:30:22 UTC

thats like how the UK has the BBC

2018-09-12 11:30:24 UTC

it will become the only thing

2018-09-12 11:30:24 UTC

I'm saying collectivised EU news

2018-09-12 11:30:41 UTC

@Dr.Wol also big black cock BBC

2018-09-12 11:30:41 UTC

but imagine it not being run by the Netherlands, but the EU parliament.

2018-09-12 11:30:43 UTC

dissent and oposing views is hate speech

2018-09-12 11:31:00 UTC

i guess the nazis won ww2

2018-09-12 11:31:09 UTC

Like Ireland is going through huge agricultural struggles rn, do you think a bunch of extra costs to run RTร‰ News are gonna do any good?

2018-09-12 11:31:12 UTC

Germany just can't help themselves can they

2018-09-12 11:31:20 UTC

is like they never learned

2018-09-12 11:31:25 UTC

So therefore RTร‰ News may get replaced with an international EU news network

2018-09-12 11:31:27 UTC

here its not just BBC

2018-09-12 11:31:29 UTC

"this time it will work for sure"

2018-09-12 11:31:34 UTC

virtually all tv media is state funded

2018-09-12 11:31:51 UTC

Germany ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช is the leader of the EU dis gun be โ€œwe wuz nazis and still arโ€

2018-09-12 11:32:56 UTC

fun part is they actually got France and the Netherlands on board this time

2018-09-12 11:35:15 UTC

Lmao ๐Ÿ˜‚ fuck

2018-09-12 11:41:03 UTC

press F to pay respects for Europe

2018-09-12 11:44:25 UTC

BBC seem generally opposed to Articles 11 and 13, at least publicly. Their article about the vote seems relatively negative about the outcome

2018-09-12 11:45:27 UTC

Wait am I allowed to link things? Brb need to call the police and check

2018-09-12 11:45:54 UTC

Well, article 11 gives some pretty negative incentives to sharing links to news media. If you have to pay a few bucks to link to a BBC article, you probably won't.

2018-09-12 11:48:28 UTC

I would say that if you are paying for a TV license then you should be free to post from the BBC. But it's not down to the individual, it's the site that you are posting it on that has to pick up the cost. (I think)

2018-09-12 11:49:32 UTC

Remember fellow UK citizens, report to the police if your neighbour is a meanie

2018-09-12 11:49:52 UTC

Jesus christ though.

2018-09-12 11:49:54 UTC

We are

2018-09-12 11:50:08 UTC

Literally reaching near-1984 levels of oppressiveness

2018-09-12 11:50:53 UTC

We'll get there

2018-09-12 11:53:12 UTC

Dankula: "Article 13 passed and Boomers applauding"

This is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause

2018-09-12 11:53:32 UTC

Can you help me find where we can see who voted which way in the EU parliment.

2018-09-12 11:55:26 UTC

all right faggots

2018-09-12 11:55:39 UTC

what was that VPN tim was shilling?

2018-09-12 11:55:41 UTC

any good?

2018-09-12 11:55:52 UTC

NordVPN?

2018-09-12 11:56:13 UTC

If the company is physically located within the EU it's probably not going to help.

2018-09-12 11:56:15 UTC

that'll do

2018-09-12 11:58:15 UTC

I use expressvpn

2018-09-12 11:58:46 UTC

virgin islands, eh

2018-09-12 11:59:12 UTC

I'll take that one then. Hang on.

2018-09-12 12:05:16 UTC

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2018-09-12 12:05:17 UTC

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2018-09-12 12:06:03 UTC

So this only effects the EU , so the US can be like fuck you i aint paying you shit

2018-09-12 12:07:04 UTC

Here you go. It has who voted which way but the copyright vote isn't up yet.
http://www.votewatch.eu/en/term8-european-parliament-latest-votes.html

2018-09-12 12:07:06 UTC

right, traffic now routed through New York, problem hopefully solved

2018-09-12 12:08:00 UTC

This ^

2018-09-12 12:08:24 UTC

Also if the compnies dont comply wtf they gonna do go after isp next

2018-09-12 12:11:26 UTC

proxies

2018-09-12 12:11:27 UTC

mesh nets

2018-09-12 12:11:31 UTC

this is guna be cool as shit

2018-09-12 12:11:40 UTC

Tim I can't believe you sold out and made a survival kit

2018-09-12 12:11:45 UTC

I'm just now catching up...

2018-09-12 12:11:48 UTC

I've had a busy few days

2018-09-12 12:12:04 UTC

ive got a box of emergency rations, two boxes of MREs, and two cases of emergency food from MPS

2018-09-12 12:12:07 UTC

I always seem to be ~20 hours behind on my vidoes

2018-09-12 12:12:13 UTC

That's fair

2018-09-12 12:12:18 UTC

Tim, it might be cool and fun for you. But the normies aren't going to want to jump through theses hopes. There'll grow up not knowing.

2018-09-12 12:12:20 UTC

I'm south ontario, I'm gonna get soaked

2018-09-12 12:12:32 UTC

Stay safe, lads

2018-09-12 12:12:45 UTC

thiss torm is going to frucking kill a lot of people man, its going to linger and dump 40 inches

2018-09-12 12:12:48 UTC

@Timcast buy a MSR filter

2018-09-12 12:12:54 UTC

water is the limiting factor.

2018-09-12 12:13:10 UTC

I have a small reverse osmosis resevoir

2018-09-12 12:13:16 UTC

holds like 10 gallons and is always full

2018-09-12 12:13:35 UTC

when the apocalypse happen gold will be worthless

2018-09-12 12:13:45 UTC

water

2018-09-12 12:13:46 UTC

dude, you could've scored big time points if you pulled a ration out of your beanie during that episode ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐Ÿ‘‰

2018-09-12 12:13:51 UTC

I remember watching the CNN ground footage of Harvey

2018-09-12 12:13:52 UTC

lol

2018-09-12 12:13:53 UTC

terrifying stuff

2018-09-12 12:14:08 UTC

those guys are good at on the ground...Until they pestered some lady in a refuge shelter

2018-09-12 12:14:20 UTC

until she snapped at them about how she's lost everything and to fuck off

2018-09-12 12:14:27 UTC

on live cam

2018-09-12 12:14:28 UTC

lmao

2018-09-12 12:14:33 UTC

Lol I remember that

2018-09-12 12:14:42 UTC

if it bleeds it leads but for fuck's sakes

2018-09-12 12:14:48 UTC

CNN, have some heart.

2018-09-12 12:14:51 UTC

emily is going to the hurricane

2018-09-12 12:14:54 UTC

im 50/50

2018-09-12 12:15:07 UTC

ive never been of the mindset that you need me to film rain

2018-09-12 12:15:07 UTC

CNN has no heart, they profit from peoples losses by being able to report on it

2018-09-12 12:15:13 UTC

like we get it, a storm is here

2018-09-12 12:15:21 UTC

So Tim you're covering the death of freedom to thunderous applause in the EU right

2018-09-12 12:15:31 UTC

or rather, the fact that we're now on the way

2018-09-12 12:15:32 UTC

I'm happily safe in south texas

2018-09-12 12:15:32 UTC

possibly

2018-09-12 12:15:38 UTC

article 13 is complicated

2018-09-12 12:15:44 UTC

my prediction

2018-09-12 12:15:48 UTC

you know that every European commentator is about to shit out a million videos

2018-09-12 12:15:52 UTC

If article 13 passes as bad as they make it sound

I'm gonna move into Tims beanie, its safer there

2018-09-12 12:15:53 UTC

kids are going to start creating an alternative net space

2018-09-12 12:15:57 UTC

you'll probably need some kind of license to be able to display or read from articles in your videos.

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