The struggle for the people is keeping the government constructive.

Jeez, this is starting to sound anarcho capitalist no offense

And that only happens when government is minimalized.

Oh ok

We can't get rid of governments, but we can't allow them full control.

I thought you were going to ask for abolishment

Obamacare doesn't tax insurance companies, it taxes people healthcare benifits

No... I am saying governments have no right to regulate private owned companies.

Because they tend to screw things up.

Insurance is private owned.

You basically asking the government to take over Insurance companies.

If there is no regulation then they can start using shit like child labor

I have had comercial Blue Cross Blue Sheild health care and goverment run health care. I would go back to commercial healthcare over Government health care anyday

Do you want the government to have complete control if you will get that shot or not? Governments tend to think about positives and don't think about the individual.

Insurance only?

There is a reason Canadians cross the boarder and come to US hopsitals for major operations

Not giving you an shot that will save your life is a net positive for the government.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-07-30/study-medicare-for-all-bill-estimated-at-32-6-trillion over 1 trillion cheaper for the average taxpayer.

Yeah but the quality becomes terrible.

Bloomberg too, so def not biased

Bloomberg... OMG... you bring them in?

Oof I mean

I’m retarted

I mean the study itself

I mean the study itself

Is by the Koch brothers

So def not left biased

It doesn't account for the quality of the health insurance.

oliver darcy is NOT a libertarian

I looked at that, it was done by an advocacy group. Do you be automaticly acept studies by the NRA?

I knew that for a long time Lotheron.

Tim suggested it yesterday

Yeah because that is his views.

I don't fault him on it, he doesn't know everything. I don't know everything.

I even tried to put this to work on paperwork, when I was along with some socialist policies.

a libertarian, by nature, isn't againt govement censorship

Everything comes back to the people who are giving the services will raise prices eventually in long term because it isn't sustainable.

Only way to make it sustainable is to lower the quality the health care of the individual.

It will be affordable, but it will be very very cheap ass quality of care.

Most people won't even get pain medications.

In most companies it would be affordable

Long term

I think the best law we have to deal with this really is the Consumer Protection Act, if anyone would actaully inforce the fair practices.

Just less profit

Companies are all about maintaining a profit.

Not loosing profit.

Oliver darcy is from the blaze

That isn't what you getting the picture.

Lel

He is right wing authoritarian

Human nature will not allow it.

Only way this would work if we as humanity, go against our very nature.

It worked under FDR

Plastic Surgury is a cash on hand market Yaoi, over the the last few decades, Prices have dropped when scaled for inflation.

That is something else I didn't talk about either.

If you place the burden solely on the government, they will print money.

Which increases inflation.

Money value will drop and economy would plumpt.

Economics + Human nature will tell you if things will work or not.

Psychology^

Reason they make you take psychology when you take economic class.

FDR actually funded his policies from taking from the rich. The only people he didn’t take from are the ancestors of the Koch brothers. Thus they are ultra rich

The main problem with all government funded welfare is that it does not properly scale with the economy. And if it did, it would be near useless. When the economy is up, it's not needed, when it is down, it's unfundable and pulls the economy down and helps no one.

Thank you Grenade.

Yeah bois national health care is so bad that whole europe hates it and is jelaous of the US

😏

You can fund national healthcare when you subsidized your national defense budget with us troops too.

Government welfare can work when the economy is down if they just tax the rich for 5 or so years

```Yeah bois national health care is so bad that whole europe hates it and is jelaous of the US```
Yeah, absolutely because the next delivery room is ~70km away

... Taxing Rich has opposite effect.

Granade arigato ! For funding my nhs

😄

Not really, Jeff Bezos has almost 100 billion USD lying around

And if you need to talk to a shrink? Yah, have to wait 2 Years, get on a list...

Trully best of allies

That he’s not using

PLus Yoai.. do you want to drive all the rich out of the nation?

No

Or you fucking pay your shrink

Just tax them when needed

That is what will happen if you start taxing them.

In crisis

@Tal,Karpov,AlekhineAllCoolGuys when the economy is down, you have more people needing help, and even the rich are making less money. So costs increase while finance decreases. This is the problem and why it is unfundable when the economy is in the tank.

"Not really, Jeff Bezos has almost 100 billion USD lying around" Ah, no, it is helping people get loans and starting small companies

And if the US taxes them the only place they can go is to third world nations, taxes in Europe are pretty harsh

@_@

Pretty sure they would just go to Mexico.

They already do when Democrats are in power

And get shot by cartels

If protection money costs less than taxes, you have a problem.

Then when Republicans in power, they come back.

Joking

look at all the states with high taxes, everyone starts leaving them.

It feels like a cycling door when I watch the rich.

(then start voting for the same problems that got them into this mess but hey, most people are stupid)

Yeah they are coming to Oklahoma and Texas, then applying the same damn laws that caused their mess in the first place.

I wish they sleep in the bed they made.

Haven't you notice by now...

If the taxes are simply focused on the parts of society where money can be taken without causing bankruptcy it works

You need to tax to support socialism.

Same function as a letch.

Leach^

All socialist policies doesn't help a country, it hurts it.

Taxation is not a socialist policy

No it isn't a socialist function, but is a function socialist needs to exist.

Has literally existed since the birth of feudal society

No, it's just forcing paying for a service leaving you with no say in how that service operates and if you stop paying because you are unhappy with the service, you get thrown in jail at gunpoint.

This sounds healthy.

It’s how most western monarchies gained power, they taxed the nobles

Mandatory taxing for insurance, if you don't, you get a fine. Does that sound familiar?

So taxing is bad?

No... Monach exist because they created their country and people moved to it.

:\

I don’t mean that

I don’t mean that

They offer services that other nations didn't offer.

I mean how monarchs gained more power

Monarches got corrupted to Kings and Queens.

And all about power.

The Sun King

Everything with centralized power becomes corrupted.

And The Swedish Kong’s

*kings damn autocorrect

Wtf did it change to Kong’s for

Stop talking about swedish dicks. >.>

XD

@Dusty Morgan you have to be in between too much decentralization is just as bad

E.g. Poland

The laughing stock of Europe

That is why United States started out as a Republic.

Died from partitions cuz the nobles kept on electing autists

Constitutional republic, applying lessons they learned from the past.

A lesson learned is knowledge gained.

Zina Bash's did the thing!! *-riots-*

@Ashers dafuq you doing here

XD

@Tal,Karpov,AlekhineAllCoolGuys -waves-

=3

I've been here for a while~

*waves back*

I watch Tim

Why else would I be here?

I know just a phrase

You guys know each other?

I disagree with him on quite a few things, most recently the transgendered jail idea x3 It's just pissed off both sides xD

However, I'm happy he gave attention to Cassie Jaye

Not really we just share some discord channels

So that makes up for all his previous wrongs as of late =w=

Yea

I could care less what the transgenders do as long as they don't effect others. *Shrugs.*

Same with everyone else.

That's ...

An issue unless we start segregating everyone

Human interaction is an everyday occurance

They can't help, but effect others

affect them

... I am talking about if they start hurting another and trampling on another's constitutional rights.

Ah yea =3 Same

What they do in private with their friends, family, and love ones doesn't bother me.

But yea, Tim's idea of a third jail type would just pissed off trans because it's a denial of their identity

Friends and family XD

Has this been posted already? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJK2JveCAbI

And piss off the right because it's added cost >.>

Sounds pretty investigating

Gender Neutral jail..

*incestual

Damn autocorrect

In all honestly, it would probably just bring the transgender and other LGBT community closer together probably.

Because they would be placing themselves in a bubble.

Away from the others.

Good point

Echo chambers are shit

That’s why you watch everything and read everything

And talk to people who you disagree with

Ye

I like to debate, it allows me to learn.

Gain new knowledge.

Honestly, I would say~
Whether or not their SRS has occured would decide where they go
Rape will happen either way
Men can rape and be raped, anything less than solitary confinement for everyone would not stop rapes from happening again

That is true.

All we can do is give the tools to those who are effected and give them ability to defend themselves.

@Timcast hey i watched your video about abortion where you compared a baby to a vampire and I was thinking does this mean you’d be ok with me removing money given to people on welfare since they are sapping my life in a slightly different but comparable way only i never did anything that would lead them to suck out my life

Same, just don’t like debating when people start insulting each other. Coughs *MFDOGAS*

I give others hell.

But I don't insult.

@Tal,Karpov,AlekhineAllCoolGuys You Pleb~

Ye I don’t care if you even have shit points. Not insulting shows principle

@Ashers why?

Oh.. I get it

❤

My position isn't shitty...:\

I didn’t mean that

I just meant in general arguments

XD.... I know.

All ideas are shit until proven otherwise!

>.>

My "liberal" English teacher gave us a task to make a "list poem" autobiography. She probably already knows my views since I took surveys, but its time to send a message I think. Is it a good idea? Or too risky even for an ABSOLUTE CHAD like me?

Oh man I hate studying poetry in English

I myself write it

Rougen... T_T

I feel bad for you, to be in schools today.

Its not even a poem tbh. just a list. No rhymes at all @Tal,Karpov,AlekhineAllCoolGuys

But I mostly like world war 1 poets

So we never cover them

I write poems, you want to see one of mine.

I write poems occasionally

@Rouqen wow

and she calls it poem

Why

I have an Instagram account with good poems and shorty anime art

This is a poem I wrote when I was a kid, that pretty much won a award.

I need to go back to making poems

The Suicidal Teen
By
Mark Dusty Morgan

Back against wall while grasping a knife,
I ponder if I should take my pitiful life.
The Question echoes, "Is Death greater than life itself?"
Cursing loudly, I'm forced to answer this by myself.

My choice like a unbalanced top that sways between life or death,
Cold reasoning crosses my lips, heaven and hell are just a myth.
Quickly I plunge the cold blade while aiming for the perfect vein,
I grimace as It floods up my arm rapidly, the wave of searing hot pain.

Again the question echoes, "Is death greater than life?"
An metal clank echoes in the kitchen as I drop the knife.
I shakenly laugh because soon I will find the answer out,
Having a hard time keeping eyes open, I am blacking out.

The kitchen is getting dark and my body is growing cold,
Weekly smirking, If hell was real, my soul has been sold.
I miss my family, I'm getting real scared now,
Hey mom... dad.... What should I do now?

Anyone there, why won't you answer me?
I'm surrounded by darkness, why can't I see?
Someone please save me from my mistake,
Nothing is working, its too late to stay awake.

I know my choices are bad,
So please help me mom and dad...
The regret is like a tsunami,
Somebody... help... me....

I can do good object based drawings or whatever it’s called but I’m shit at anime art

Basically suspose to deter people from suicide.

To help propagate good views

I wanna make a few poems now

But need inspiration

Will just do normal stuff untill find a thing tjat ticks

Which poet doesn’t like writing about death tbh

When I write in poems, I use Epic Poem format

Death makes a poet orgasm

@Dusty Morgan it sounds like a sick rap if you read it right

Well fucking done

And good message

I like writing beat rhyming style poems

I’ve only done a few sonnets

Glad you like it Rougen.

Cuz sonnets are GAE

It won best poem and they wanted to feature it in a poem book.

No joke

So much effort

But I was like a kid, so I ignored them and played video games.

Thank god I never gave up on poetry

Hello all

I am hard of hearing... so I pretty much have a lot of time to think.

Hi

I am told all my poems I make is good. Have a natural talent for poems.

I make poems like this
1 Get inspired by thing
2 Get a rhythm. Just hum some shit or tap my finger until it sounds completly in sync with the idea.
3 Get first line
4Keep going until out of inspiration

But well... I don't see anyway to make money or a living off it.

It is a hobby.

Same

Same ish

Once I write 100 I might compile them

And make a book

My mom collected every poem I ever wrote and keeps them on the walls.

With the awards they won.

I guess I could make some poems and self publish on Amazon

Just as a side thing

So you guys liked the suicidal teen thing?

Though I wouldn’t try. Modern poetry is shot