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2018-07-09 00:46:53 UTC

same as private prisons

2018-07-09 00:47:21 UTC

Well, if it is not stated-funded, then people can take it to the courts.

2018-07-09 00:47:40 UTC

you can take the state to the courts too usually

2018-07-09 00:47:52 UTC

all the healthcare youd ever want can be provided in the market economy. no good reason to risk monopolizing the industry in a wreckless policy that ppl dont even know how to implement due the inherent flaws of central planning

2018-07-09 00:47:55 UTC

jsut like you can file a lawsuit against a police department, etc

2018-07-09 00:48:20 UTC

yeah I'm definetly NOT against a market economy for healthcare

2018-07-09 00:48:28 UTC

but I don't think how it currently is

2018-07-09 00:48:35 UTC

the unethical part imo is that insurance companies pay a much lower rate than ppl who don't have insurance

2018-07-09 00:48:35 UTC

mismanagement is GUARANTEED to take place in centraly planned economies (socialism/fascism/techocracy)

2018-07-09 00:48:42 UTC

dunno how the chargemaster is still a thing

2018-07-09 00:48:51 UTC

i do believe there are enough people willing to help fund strangers healthcare without needing the state. the issue becomes connecting people with the need with people willing to help

2018-07-09 00:49:11 UTC

I watched my working class parents get decimated financially when my dad got cancer and basically got to the point where he needed a loan to continue treatments

2018-07-09 00:49:26 UTC

I don't think any one should have to go through that

2018-07-09 00:49:31 UTC

but I do not know what the answer is

2018-07-09 00:49:34 UTC

yeah for sure, how the healthcare industry currently is .... very bad! due to statism primarily

2018-07-09 00:49:36 UTC

but that IS the reality of our current system

2018-07-09 00:51:36 UTC

yeah, and it already takes place... so if ppl are taxed less, the charitable ppl (mostly poor & middle class conservatives.... btw), they have more to give

2018-07-09 00:51:51 UTC

One thing that I like is paying doctors and physicians directly in cash or other monetary compensation for services rendered.

2018-07-09 00:52:14 UTC

not to mention all the "friendly societies" that pre-existed statist meddling into healthcare services

2018-07-09 00:52:15 UTC

that just gets around the insurance system and yeah that does have some affect

2018-07-09 00:52:56 UTC

but it doesn't help those that don't have any way to pay

2018-07-09 00:53:26 UTC

and i'm not talking emergency services, those are already guaranteed, etc, I'm talking chronic illnesses like cancer

2018-07-09 00:53:41 UTC

there is always a way ... and there will always be more potential charitable capital to make the difference

2018-07-09 00:53:43 UTC

shits expensive regardless of insurance, not something most normal people can just pay cash for

2018-07-09 00:54:12 UTC

What about have a corporation, company, organization, or private investor "sponsor" your cancer for a treatment. All experimental drugs. No FDA interference.

2018-07-09 00:54:27 UTC

there could perhaps be utility in the state connecting people willing to help and people in need. But giving the state money is the last thing you want to do. Its like taking all the healthcare companies, and make them just one giant entity, Then taking the greedy hospital boards and adding them in too. Its just more money for politicians to raid to pay their debts on bad deals.

2018-07-09 00:55:09 UTC

yeah, giving the state money is not a good idea either

2018-07-09 00:55:26 UTC

I'm also not totally opposed to a single payer system

2018-07-09 00:55:31 UTC

or Kickstarter πŸ˜„

2018-07-09 00:55:33 UTC

buuut I just don't know how it would work

2018-07-09 00:55:35 UTC

like pensions for my recent state reps who all retired at like 50, while like no one in the work force can retire before like 60 or 70, realistically, and very few if any have pensions.

2018-07-09 00:55:44 UTC

kickstarter and gofundme, etc days are numbered

2018-07-09 00:55:55 UTC

when people stop realizing the value from donations

2018-07-09 00:56:17 UTC

I don't tsee that as a long term solution

2018-07-09 00:56:22 UTC

why public officials even HAD the option of pensions for being in office way too fucking long is beyond me.

2018-07-09 00:56:32 UTC

A Blockchain-funded DAO that funds your Healthcare plan, according to how much you can "mine" in what you can do for your diseases' research?

2018-07-09 00:56:46 UTC

exactly, what i was saying, @LotheronPrime

2018-07-09 00:56:48 UTC

I am so agaisnt digital mining

2018-07-09 00:57:04 UTC

its basically fiat while burning real resources

2018-07-09 00:57:08 UTC

so stupid

2018-07-09 00:57:17 UTC

depends on what you are "mining"

2018-07-09 00:57:26 UTC

I feel like all that computing power could be put to some use....

2018-07-09 00:57:31 UTC

yeah some mining is for research etc

2018-07-09 00:57:37 UTC

good old seti days, etc

2018-07-09 00:57:47 UTC

like mining medical data to find cures or stella info to find new planets or something

2018-07-09 00:57:50 UTC

and whatever that cancer genome one was

2018-07-09 00:58:11 UTC

giving over your computer to research while you are asleep and getting some compensation for it that can go towards your healthcare doesn't sound too unethical.

2018-07-09 00:58:19 UTC

security nightmare? perhaps

2018-07-09 00:58:25 UTC

nah but then you're just shifting costs to electricity

2018-07-09 00:58:35 UTC

and unless you made a net positive there

2018-07-09 00:58:45 UTC

it wouldn't be worth it

2018-07-09 00:58:56 UTC

someone is going to be eating up the electricity

2018-07-09 00:59:09 UTC

either its a few supercomputers over a long period of time

2018-07-09 00:59:11 UTC

yeah but YOU pay for the electricity YOU use so any credits you get

2018-07-09 00:59:13 UTC

the problem is going to be confirming the data

2018-07-09 00:59:19 UTC

or a few million computers over a shorter period of time

2018-07-09 00:59:21 UTC

would have to account for that

2018-07-09 00:59:34 UTC

I also think there is endless data to crunch

2018-07-09 00:59:45 UTC

otherwise people can just make a client that tells the server ou mined loads of data which could be balls

2018-07-09 00:59:50 UTC

"buuut I just don't know how it would work" you admit so, so sounds like LOTS of room for mistake. but the stakes are too high for an entire industry (and critical) to be at such high risk from such a wreckless policy or social experiement.... thats the problems w/ the inherent flaws of central planning.... guaranteed mismanagement

2018-07-09 01:00:07 UTC

compensation is just roughly electricity + a small amount for healthcare

2018-07-09 01:01:02 UTC

so enough to pay for tylenol in the hospital, got it πŸ˜›

2018-07-09 01:01:27 UTC

so you can only ever really crypto mine with data you already know the answer to

2018-07-09 01:02:40 UTC

better to trade crypto 😁

2018-07-09 01:02:45 UTC

that would depend on your definition of mining.

2018-07-09 01:03:02 UTC

I dont see a long term outlook for crypto

2018-07-09 01:03:10 UTC

of any kind

2018-07-09 01:03:12 UTC

I could be wrong

2018-07-09 01:03:14 UTC

but I don't

2018-07-09 01:03:20 UTC

blockchain is the more interesting technology

2018-07-09 01:03:29 UTC

I just see it as wasteful of actual resources

2018-07-09 01:04:00 UTC

crypto depends on enough people accepting it in exchange for goods

2018-07-09 01:04:20 UTC

pewdiepies latest vid was actually pretty good

2018-07-09 01:04:41 UTC

ya, itll just keep evolving to meet market demands and other requirements to use as a stable decentralized currency with more and more widespread use

2018-07-09 01:05:55 UTC

the problem with blockchain is the ever increasing size of the chain in data storage

2018-07-09 01:06:07 UTC

youtube is worse

2018-07-09 01:06:07 UTC

with the next iterations of blockchain/crypto type tech and beyond

2018-07-09 01:06:12 UTC

YT is worse lol

2018-07-09 01:06:23 UTC

but its managed by a company that can pull the plug

2018-07-09 01:06:28 UTC

BC isn't

2018-07-09 01:06:38 UTC

for sure..... the blockchain size has already gone parabolic

2018-07-09 01:07:20 UTC

there's really no way around it if you're using it as a way to historically track and verify every transaction since inception

2018-07-09 01:07:21 UTC

buuut

2018-07-09 01:07:27 UTC

transactions cost complications.... liquidity issues ....... still lots of problems to work out

2018-07-09 01:07:27 UTC

just gonna have to start printing pieces of the ledger and storing them in warehouses

2018-07-09 01:07:46 UTC

and then tie them to some sort of categorization system

2018-07-09 01:07:47 UTC

interesting... Charles dickens wrote a peice in 1837 which was a bit like westworld

2018-07-09 01:07:48 UTC

with printed cards

2018-07-09 01:08:03 UTC

a theme park where people fight automatons

2018-07-09 01:08:37 UTC

LOL sick. i would so do that

2018-07-09 01:08:50 UTC

gotta bring back card catalogs

2018-07-09 01:09:02 UTC

I grew up in a small town where there is a big museum... which holds an automaton from 1772 ...and as a kid I really did not appreciate how amazing it was

2018-07-09 01:09:06 UTC

sounds hella fun xD

2018-07-09 01:10:11 UTC

whoa.... i would like to see that!

2018-07-09 01:10:14 UTC
2018-07-09 01:10:16 UTC

I want to open a theme park of old and semi-old computers that can do things if you know how to operate them fully. πŸ˜ƒ

2018-07-09 01:10:41 UTC

they muted it, but it has sound too

2018-07-09 01:10:59 UTC

all pure silver leaves

2018-07-09 01:11:18 UTC

hah wow.... seems like itd take some engineering genius to pull that off back then.... like passive mechanics or something... maybe some wind up crank?

2018-07-09 01:11:38 UTC

yeah its wound up

2018-07-09 01:11:39 UTC

thats classy too lol

2018-07-09 01:12:03 UTC

pretty cool πŸ‘

2018-07-09 01:12:13 UTC

old pinball/gaming machines were hella complex

2018-07-09 01:12:15 UTC

for their time

2018-07-09 01:12:36 UTC

all mechanical

2018-07-09 01:12:39 UTC

Mark Twain saw it on tour and wrote about it

2018-07-09 01:13:28 UTC

MT was way before his time

2018-07-09 01:13:38 UTC

had like one of the first telephones

2018-07-09 01:13:40 UTC

and even then he wrote about it in 1867 - so even to him he must have been like, wow they made this back in 1772 πŸ˜›

2018-07-09 01:14:03 UTC

Has anyone heard of the turk?

2018-07-09 01:14:11 UTC

LOL yeah for sure @wacka

2018-07-09 01:14:18 UTC

β€œI watched the Silver Swan, which had a living grace about his movement and a living intelligence in his eyes, watched him swimming about as comfortably and unconcernedly as if he had been born in a morass instead of a jeweller’s shop.”

2018-07-09 01:14:30 UTC

It's the most interesting mechanical marvel I've heard of

2018-07-09 01:15:00 UTC

just think, in 4 years after that was made the world changed forever

2018-07-09 01:15:03 UTC

FREEDOM

2018-07-09 01:15:26 UTC

yeah its older than the US

2018-07-09 01:15:35 UTC

which we also invented ;P

2018-07-09 01:15:47 UTC

you might have invented it

2018-07-09 01:15:49 UTC

Automatons are really impressive. I like the one of the writing boy which can be programmed to write whatever you want it to

2018-07-09 01:15:50 UTC

but we perfected it

2018-07-09 01:15:55 UTC

fair enough πŸ˜ƒ

2018-07-09 01:16:02 UTC

πŸ˜ƒ

2018-07-09 01:16:20 UTC

Also the one of the Japanese archer because it actually shoots a miniature arrow which is hilarious to me

2018-07-09 01:16:22 UTC

It's a completely wooden robot, that plays chess

2018-07-09 01:16:23 UTC

It beat people like Churchill and Napoleon Bonaparte

2018-07-09 01:17:16 UTC

there was another robot... that most footage was lost and I think it burnt in a fire or something

2018-07-09 01:17:27 UTC

cant remember its name... like ernie or something

2018-07-09 01:18:20 UTC

eric that was it

2018-07-09 01:18:34 UTC

Yeah, that's the turk

2018-07-09 01:18:36 UTC

this might sound weird

2018-07-09 01:18:37 UTC

A guy rebuilt it

2018-07-09 01:18:46 UTC

but old videos of automatons scare the shit out of me

2018-07-09 01:18:47 UTC

It's still working

2018-07-09 01:18:51 UTC

like clowns

2018-07-09 01:18:53 UTC

or some shit

2018-07-09 01:18:58 UTC

but im not scared of clowns

2018-07-09 01:18:59 UTC

And it beat agrandmaster

2018-07-09 01:19:01 UTC

nah this was a robot that stood up

2018-07-09 01:19:06 UTC

its like a soulless being

2018-07-09 01:19:17 UTC

oh I see I thought you were talking to me πŸ˜›

2018-07-09 01:19:44 UTC

A magic shop guy rebuilt the turk, and it beat a grandmaster

2018-07-09 01:20:16 UTC

There was a story where a guy tried to cheat, and the robot knocked off all the pieces from the board

2018-07-09 01:20:33 UTC

It's really interesting

2018-07-09 01:21:15 UTC

watching JRE with JBP

2018-07-09 01:21:35 UTC

talking about the gulags and killing the farmers, then people died because no one was left to farm

2018-07-09 01:21:45 UTC

same thing happening in South Africa

2018-07-09 01:21:49 UTC

first robot built in 1928, stood up, looked left and right, sparks came from its teeth while it gave a four minute address

2018-07-09 01:21:53 UTC

you think these people would realize history

2018-07-09 01:25:16 UTC

would be nice to see someone do something as beautiful as the silver swan automaton again with todays tech... not with electricity, but just the materials, machining, 3d printing etc we could use

2018-07-09 01:26:02 UTC

Ive seen that video before a while back

2018-07-09 01:26:24 UTC

i think he goes into the fire and how it was lost and how someone tried to rebuild it as best they could

2018-07-09 01:28:23 UTC

Yeah, it still works

2018-07-09 01:28:29 UTC

Really scary stuff

2018-07-09 01:30:30 UTC

but also although it could be seen as majestic, I think today it would come off a little gimmicky, whereas something more .. I dunno how to describe it.... naturist or something? in jewellery would be better.... imo

2018-07-09 01:36:22 UTC

I'm just wondering how it was built back then, within the any knowledge of computers or algorithms

2018-07-09 01:37:33 UTC

its basically rotating disks (or cams) tied to strings

2018-07-09 01:38:50 UTC

shit

2018-07-09 01:38:52 UTC

wacka leveled up

2018-07-09 01:38:54 UTC

and can post shit

2018-07-09 01:39:11 UTC

prepared for wackaspam

2018-07-09 01:39:14 UTC

well.. I have been in since before the bot πŸ˜›

2018-07-09 01:39:15 UTC

Or! It could just be wizard fucking with people

2018-07-09 01:39:29 UTC

actually I hit level 10 as well

2018-07-09 01:40:02 UTC

https://mee6.xyz/leaderboard/398858182455459851

2018-07-09 01:40:18 UTC

you're jsut a bit before me

2018-07-09 01:41:53 UTC

who was here originally... i remember dr woi / jayred or something?

2018-07-09 01:42:04 UTC

must have lost a few levels sicne I went to disney this week

2018-07-09 01:42:24 UTC

I have no idea

2018-07-09 01:42:28 UTC

world florida, land california or land paris?

2018-07-09 01:42:44 UTC

world in FL

2018-07-09 01:42:57 UTC

nice

2018-07-09 01:42:57 UTC

I have no desire to goto France

2018-07-09 01:43:03 UTC

or Europe at the moment

2018-07-09 01:43:11 UTC

we'll see if it settles down

2018-07-09 01:43:18 UTC

If I had to guess the Turk must have inputs to move its hand for each square on the chess board, and so then someone just needs to control it

2018-07-09 01:43:19 UTC

but yeah took the kiddos to DW

2018-07-09 01:43:26 UTC

lol its not that bad ::P

2018-07-09 01:43:42 UTC

meh, I wouldn't want to have to censor myself due to laws lol

2018-07-09 01:44:09 UTC

I'm generally pretty cordial

2018-07-09 01:44:12 UTC

i dont think france has such laws

2018-07-09 01:44:17 UTC

but I could get myself in trouble

2018-07-09 01:44:34 UTC

which is probably why charlie hebdo happened in france

2018-07-09 01:44:38 UTC

so I could call this place a "shithole" because of the people that are literally shitting on the streets?

2018-07-09 01:45:04 UTC

you can pretty much say what you like in france

2018-07-09 01:45:21 UTC

you just cant wear a hijab on the beach

2018-07-09 01:45:33 UTC

so bare that in mind

2018-07-09 01:45:46 UTC

wellt here goes my 1% desire to go there

2018-07-09 01:45:46 UTC

πŸ˜›

2018-07-09 01:50:51 UTC

360 Fireworks at Disney World

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/465696306107514911/20180703_2128572.jpg

2018-07-09 01:51:17 UTC

that was a real panorama during DW

2018-07-09 01:51:34 UTC

during the finale

2018-07-09 01:54:44 UTC

Disney world is the second largest consumer of explosives just behind the US department of defence

2018-07-09 01:55:12 UTC

I believe it

2018-07-09 01:55:23 UTC

went on the 3rd, didn't rain

2018-07-09 01:55:29 UTC

rained each other night, got lucky

2018-07-09 01:55:41 UTC

Orlando Fl is the lightning capital of the world I believe

2018-07-09 01:56:08 UTC

nevermind, am wrong

2018-07-09 01:56:09 UTC

but close

2018-07-09 01:56:25 UTC

oh I remember seeing some great fork lightening in ft Lauderdale as a kid

2018-07-09 01:56:37 UTC

yeah it's mesmorizing

2018-07-09 01:58:32 UTC

3am... should prolly sleep .... I'll leave you with some; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

2018-07-09 02:22:22 UTC

I don't like going to Orlando. It's flat so I have no sense of direction.

2018-07-09 02:33:35 UTC

Has anyone heard this before? That people aren't using the term Aspergers to mention the disorder that it was named for? Had a real misfit idiot talk about it in my game store stonight and I had to call it out for being utter nonsense.

2018-07-09 02:33:52 UTC

I've heard it before.

2018-07-09 02:34:41 UTC

What do you mean, like as an insult, or some self-diagnosing "I have trouble with social situations so I'm going to say I have aspergers"?

2018-07-09 02:35:23 UTC

Oh sorry, didnt mention the best part... because the word Aspergers is, get this, a Nazi term.

2018-07-09 02:36:13 UTC

lol

2018-07-09 02:36:42 UTC

What was he saying it's ableist or stigmatizing the neuro-diverse or something?

2018-07-09 02:37:01 UTC

Well if I recall they ended up rolling up aspergers and autism into just autism because they are so similar but I had not heard that rationization so thanks for that I guess

2018-07-09 02:37:21 UTC

now THAT is bullshit.

2018-07-09 02:37:37 UTC

This features the explanation I was given

2018-07-09 02:38:10 UTC

Try arguing how useless the R-word movement is because of how quickly the word for mental disability becomes a slur.

2018-07-09 02:38:16 UTC

No, that Hans Asperger was alive at the time of the Nazis therefore he must be one, and as a scientist, he probably did Nazi things. So we should discredit him and call his theory something else

2018-07-09 02:38:48 UTC

i was born with aspergers

2018-07-09 02:38:57 UTC

Sorry to say, you're a nazi.

2018-07-09 02:39:00 UTC

Did you tell him that he must have aspergers?

2018-07-09 02:39:05 UTC

...

2018-07-09 02:39:08 UTC

really?

2018-07-09 02:39:19 UTC

Time to get out those bike locks gents

2018-07-09 02:39:23 UTC

is that why it was removed as a medical condition

2018-07-09 02:39:26 UTC

excuse me?

2018-07-09 02:39:36 UTC

can you like screw off with this?

2018-07-09 02:39:36 UTC

I'm jokin' friend. Didn't mean any offense.

2018-07-09 02:39:40 UTC

oh

2018-07-09 02:39:43 UTC

well

2018-07-09 02:39:46 UTC

Did they remove Borderline too?

2018-07-09 02:39:52 UTC

i do take things too seriously

2018-07-09 02:39:58 UTC

Stop

2018-07-09 02:40:04 UTC

maybe its my understanding

2018-07-09 02:40:17 UTC

its bad enough that i think like this

2018-07-09 02:40:19 UTC

Nah, it's cool. It's really hard to tell sometimes on the internet.

2018-07-09 02:40:49 UTC

But a good way to think of it is... err on the side that it's your fault and not someone elses. That'll do wonders.

2018-07-09 02:41:13 UTC

i didnt have a choice to be born with this

2018-07-09 02:41:35 UTC

I don't think you should assume you're probably wrong in most cases haha

2018-07-09 02:41:35 UTC

i must live with this reguardless

2018-07-09 02:42:07 UTC

Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses

2018-07-09 02:42:11 UTC

We all have things we gotta live with, brother. But you're making a list of choices right now and one of them is to read my text.

2018-07-09 02:42:16 UTC

like can you zap the chromosomes out like people think they can do the same to homosexuality?

2018-07-09 02:42:19 UTC

And come on, it's not like you're a speedrunner or anything

2018-07-09 02:42:32 UTC

its almost like you knew me from somewhere else

2018-07-09 02:43:02 UTC

🌈 Pray>The>Gay>Away ✝

2018-07-09 02:43:40 UTC

where the hell did I get a pride flag emoji from, and why couldn't I use it here? lol

2018-07-09 02:43:50 UTC

Thankfully pride month has ended so I don't need to pretend I care about anyone but straight people anymore /s

2018-07-09 02:44:36 UTC

being straight during pride month is homophobic /s

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