@devpav i use windows for graphics. not sure ow thats supremeist

but ok...

😄 based and iPilled

continue ur retard cult think with these others idiots

LOL

You are the cult think mate

🤣

@Mr. Jesus yeah, i like linux, but... shit some linux users really give the OS a bad name

Last time I used anything Apple was the 80s

But all these old women can't be wrong?!?!

Personally, I prefer, SCO Xenix. I was able to hang 32 Wise dumb terminals off a single 8088 computer before Linux was even a dream.

wayland 🤣

https://www.latlmes.com/tech/discord-is-shutting-down-as-of-25th-february-2019-after-investors-cash-out-loss-1

:(

sweet

faggot

🤣

@Aghost I used to use Arch back in about 2005ish and then moved to using OpenBSD for *nix a while ago. A lot of the dev market in the UK is C#, I'd rather do Python dev but there isn't any jobs really.

DEBIAN JUST WERKS

😄

@Mr. Jesus yeah, fuck
im doing programming as well, C#. and my teacher told me that C# is still one of the most popular languages out there
heard they where going to make it available for other OS's as well, tho

linux supremecist. no i just dont enjoy fixing my family members bullshit on windows anymore.

i cant be supremecist if i use the OS for work

C# is nice

im forced to use this bullshit

because linux involves much less knowledge....

pft.

tbh when i set them on linux they never ask for shit anymore

@Aghost yeah .NET core runs on Linux and MacOS without much effort.

Mono, I think it was called.

but then again they just use chrome, email, and netflix

@devpav Mono is a compatible CLR, but I think Microsoft is pushing everyone to move to .NET core

and that's y old women use apple.

Thinkpad x320 🤠

cuz it works for the stupid shit they do.

and nothing else

Those "dark web scans" are scams, right? The ads for them appear on Hallmark, so it seems like they're preying on old gullible women

@Graylan | gray00 they don't ask you again because they don't want to keep changing stuff not because it is better.

Seems like bullshit to me

yes it is

@Mr. Jesus C# makes using .NET easier which makes integration with Microsoft Azure more efficient. The goal is to get you to use Azure. That is Microsoft's cash cow for cloud computing.

@CasualSailor yep.

Hmm

I just like the syntax fam

Lol

@Mr. Jesus If you didn't need to use .NET and were not trying to integrate with Azure, I'm not sure I'd prefer C# to regular C++ for application work.

I'm working with VBA at work and it's cringey how much i hate the syntax

windows is still better for graphics and games. and that wont change until software does... That's a fact. doesnt change the fact it runs like dog shit

@CasualSailor Everything is integrated into VS as well.

I normally do DB work and boring Web APIs for payment processing nonsense.

If I am making a small quick Windows app I tend to use (please don't hate me) VB.NET with WinForms.

It depends what you are building

Lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtHizEr02X8

Not a second time...

sry wrong link

Lol

i aint trying to rick roll

sorry for calling people idiots. felt attacked im retarded sometimes

tim or mod should make a technology room

So, windows is better for graphics and games....So, if all you do related to graphics and gaming....Why would you use linux?

you wont and they wont

you don't

So...what's the argument then?

Er, Windows is only better than Linux for graphics if the card vendor's Windows driver is better than its Linux driver.

Ok. How often is that?

@Mr. Jesus No. You've got it exactly right. Languages have their strengths. No reason not to use .NET or WinForms for quick GUIs. You pick the language which fits the project. Why would I choose C for managing Web servers when Python is more efficient. I used to use a lot of Java for web development but I think it is rapidly becoming superflouous.

That's my point. It's not an OS feature.

right, but it's the practical reason

doesn't matter if linux is better if it doesn't work better.

I remember when ubuntu was good 🤣 damn I feel old

7.04 i think was the first one I used 🤔

@Unwound Trust that feeling.😁

😔 i remember how excited I was to get those cube workspaces with compiz

Oh yeah. I remember that nonsense.

now I can't even get a new phone and be excited 😔

y u getting new phone?

To be spied on more?

literally no fucking reason. damn... you are right.

it's not really spying if they already know about it

more like voyeurism

nah, u can knowingly be spied on.

that's more exihibitionism

heck, every time you leave your house, you are knowingly being spied on.

well, if you live in a city...

I think spying has to be in secret

spying in the sense of spying on someone

nope. I think its intent must be hidden, by design and not in practice

@Paradox it comes back to open source software and it being more eco to build. when software changes then linux can win. but unitl then people will be inprisoned to DRM games and spyware adware in their paid progs

@Paradox yup, going to have to agree with @taekahn . You are being surveilled not spied upon.

what im saying is windows dev, like the oS

no one is doing it anymore.. they deleted peoples files just recently

Well, now that i've sirred the pot, i'm going to disappear for an hour or two.

*its what i do*

people make programs, sure windows still has like REact js etc.. many new cross platform

spy verb
\ ˈspī
\
spied; spying
Definition of spy

(Entry 1 of 2)

transitive verb
1 : to watch secretly usually for hostile purposes
2 : to catch sight of : see
3 : to search or look for intensively —usually used with out spy out places fit for vending … goods— S. E. Morison

intransitive verb
1 : to observe or search for something : look
2 : to watch secretly as a spy

>it's not a secret

@Paradox well that is windows 10 for sure. they send copies of private keys to their own stuff

>so it's not spying

And it doesn't need to be a secret

obviously the only defintions that apply are the secret ones

@Paradox Yes. Secretly is the key difference. There is nothing secret about it, the cameras hang on posts.

See 2 and 3

2 doesn't apply

don't be obtuse

its a completely different use of the word

and same with 3

@CasualSailor no one has the source code for intel ME so it is secret

@Paradox your grammar nazi license has been revoked

That's literally the function of cameras, so how does that not apply?

because the cameras would have to be hidden?

if you can see the cameras, you know you're being watched

if you know you're being watched, it's not secret

if it's not secret, it's not spying

No, they wouldn't. YOu seem to not understanding different usages or meaning, 1 is fine, but it's not the only meaning.

No one is saying its the only meaning, but that doesn't mean the word means the same in all contexts

like the word obtuse

because i called you obtuse, doesn't mean i think you're an angle

@Graylan | gray00 Not sure how that is relevant to cameras on posts when you leave your house but I will say as a programmer, I have no problem with DRM. I like being paid for the things I develop and am no fan of people who steal games and other software.

God I hate college based tests

oh, but the definition of obtuse is an angle.

Like I understand most of it but I never have enough time

oh, and, I do agree windows 10 is full of spyware, but so are some linux....

Huh

Ahh shiyet

I didn’t even get anything out of getting windows 10, it just meant that I wouldn’t have to have that annoying startup screen that was in windows 8

i'm still using 7 and xp, lol.

@Paradox Sorry. I didn't mean to start that argument. This is why you don't have semantic debates. They hinge upon you denying what the other person tells you they think a word means. If you equate spying with surveillance then there is no argument.

I like that it’s the newer form of the tabs I guess, but I’d rather have security over some cosmetic item

Exactly. And in some cases they do mean the same, in other cases, they do not.

@Paradox Yeah. But even if they don't. If YOU think they are synonymous it is pointless for me to argue that YOU don't.

For the most part I do.

I think the problem with DRM is that once the Right management is broken then you can't use the product you paid for. For example without cracking the game Age of Mythology won't without securerom which has been removed from Windows.

That's the problem with semantic debates. You end up arguing over what everyone believes words mean rather than the actual issue being discussed.

when there is a genuine misunderstanding of meaning, that's fine, but some ppl just don't like words used a way they don't like.

ya know, like saying fags can get married.

tim got so much stuff in that podcast.. theres like 20 videos about tim on JREclips 😛

@Mr. Jesus Well that is part of the contract between buyer and seller. I have to provide a means for you to "validate" your copy if I am no longer going to provide that ability. This is something laws should provide for.

@Timcast Some faggot been talking shit about you on a stream, saying you pay girls to go live with you and getting cucked

They do it for automobile parts. If a car company goes out of business the specs and molds for replacement parts must be made available to the public so others can make the parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjs74cXNERQ starts at 36:00 @Timcast

You do have escrow for bespoke stuff. I do think consumer rights is behind the curve on this.

@Mr. Jesus Probably so. That's probably because you are purchasing a license to "use" the software rather than the actual software. But the principle is the same if you are no longer able to "use" it.

copying isn't stealing, though.

@CasualSailor that works out so well that you can't even enjoy the things you paid for with DRM...

didn't you know you have to have API connection and when company goes bankrupt they no longer provide API?

so what happens to DRM content when the company goes away... Well you dont OWN SHIT

when the pirated versions are more functional than the legit versions....lol

that's correct today @Paradox

anno 2070 go try and play it with no API connection

please. ill wait..

Then play the pirated anno 2070. oh and you can pirate games if you own them.

;D

it's still legal grey area, the wont fight.

I can pirate them even if I don't.

that's why drm is retarded @Paradox

and people like @CasualSailor are the sheep

"I LOVE DRM SO MUCH I CANT EVEN PLAY THE GAME I SPENT 60 USD ON, IT's GREAT"

lulz

fuckin cloud hosting lmfao.

Yeah.. keep drinking the kool aid

ya the copyright stuff is a bit of a messy area

on one hand you got greedy's fuckers, on the other side you got other greedy fuckers and in the middle is ppl making shit that should probably make something and ppl using shit that they wouldn't normally.

lol programmers are so unedcated it is funny. their companies they work for will go bankrupt with their inability to adapt

they dont even see the open source wave coming..

it's 10x the dot com bubble

just in code not money

on the internet it's either adapt/innovate or die

"but muh cloud hosting"

i call it the free software revolution. shit u cant Stop.. @CasualSailor 😉 get used to giving your code away for free. and you CAN make money with it. i do every month..

if you can't make money dont blame a licence blame your shitty failures.

has @Paradox admitted that he was wrong yet?

'cause he is

like 120%

also:

timcast > tim pool news

@Graylan | gray00 I find your claim to receive money for writing software without the software being paid for to be suspect. Perhaps you can explain where the money you receive comes from if not from those who benefit from your labor?

😮

https://hackernoon.com/could-utopian-io-become-the-ultimate-funding-solution-for-open-source-projects-c516bb0e5a09

@ʇooNʇooN Wrong about what?

we work with utopian io

and they upvote our shit.

@Paradox everything TBQH

🤔 hmm

Have I made a claim about everything?

Btw about mark dice

Why do people hate him

cuz he is still shilling for patreon

@Paradox no, but you will, and you will totes be wrong and stuff

that pays for development of software that NO OTHER income would. so it increases the amount of free code in our ecosystem. now what does your closed source cloud offer to empoly development talent from VZ or nigeria? @CasualSailor oh it cant.. that's right.

i'm a tad skeptical 🤔

@Unwound lol the beauty of free code is go read it

skeptical? read the shit

Just finished Tim on JRE. So proud of my boi 💜

yyep. tim did good

he talked bout it in here a lot past 8 months

more than 3-4 times

he was def bummed bout the past shit

But mark dice fans hate JRE

im happy he got in JRE and had that reaction

it was prefect literally fuckin perfect timing

Do they? I watch both, though, neither are a priority.

He did so damn good dudes. He was straight dropping knowledge on Joe for 3 straight hours

i believe tim flew to LA twice and joe blew him off previous to that

@Graylan | gray00 You are a complete Foss-tard aren't you? Yeh I am going to work for upvotes on Steemit /sarcasm

Well done Timmy Boi

so him getting on was a fuckin mircale.

well it was also in joe's interests, following the backlash he got from the jack show

I think he really opened up Joes eyes on how fucked and shady Jack Dorsey is

@PaulMac I think I've watched it twice. Tim did a really good job at keeping him on track. Jamie "the swat team was nazis" was hilarious

Seeing Tim Pool in any other angle feels weird

eh, jamie is a cuck

@Mr. Jesus dont then. you wont ever be anything in life anyway with your shit attitudes

@Mr. Jesus haha, the YouTube comments shitting on Jamie were hilarious

I hope Tim gave Joe a long list of hardball questions to ask Jack next time

and steemit isn't steem

😄

wait JRE is on it's 1240s episodes?

are either steam?

nope

what about steam?

so in about a year and a bit, he'll be on his 1488th episode?

it'll prob stay around a while

he totes should get dickie spencer

for the lulz

@Graylan | gray00 🤣 look mate. People that live in the real world and not in FOSS lala land need to get paid cash money mate. That isn't going to change anytime soon. Taking your anger out on me when I point out that your utopian nonsense of everyone using FOSS stuff and everything magically getting paid for by some rando website based on what looks like to be nothing other than buzzwords is pretty entertaining.

steam adapted linux early and they have a in road to foss and other shit to put their closed source on top or maybe they do crypto things

getting the gab and minds guy, he mentioned

@Mr. Jesus yea and our eth went from 0.01 to 1400usd

i think we are fine

we have plenty , and profits.

oh wait what? BTC ATM pay out usd .. no way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19tVcU4rZrU

Joe needs to have Gavin Mcinnes and Milo on again

ya, but I'd have to travel on an airplane to use one...

nty

ive said it before and ill say it again. crypto can be used to employ freedom or to enslave people.

then what's it matter?

No different really.

@Graylan | gray00 You can deflect all you want mate. At the end end someone needs to pay for dev and the people that pay for "open source" are the big tech companies. Whether that is in crypto or whatever it doesn't matter someone needs to pay. It doesn't happen by magic.

@Mr. Jesus if that were true linux wouldnt exist.

linux is a mix of corp and independent dev

im just saying yes you can build things FOSS and earn money.

@Graylan | gray00 Almost all of Linux dev is now paid for by big tech companies. The only reason Linux ever took off was because BSD & the AT & T case made adopting BSD legally risky.

why would microsoft make a video about our technology?

why would cloudflare write the blog post?

why not

why would stanford host the talk?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

what is your software methodology and version control process look like?

https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs

198 contribs

?

how do you do your version control?