a friendly smile,
will kill kyle

@Orteid ask this... how long has farrakhan been known to be the way he is?

How many people know who Farrakhan is?

Or what the Nation of Islam is

why would I think that anyone that supports him as the top level would be any different

At least 5

perhaps even at least 10

90% of the western world know what the nation of islam is

Its ISIS!! 😛

What you have to understand is that we all live in a bubble

that you create yourself

Not consciously

leave your bubble and you would know

agreed,

my bubble encompasses everyone elses bubble though 😉 so i'm able to see everyone

that is still your fault

Most bubbles are out of convenience, not political expedience

therefore i'm better than you! Much better than you! you are garbage!!

😛

The average person does not have enough time in the day to research everything they ever see

it's not someone else's job to convince a idealogue in a echo chamber what the truth is against that person's will

that idealogue is at fault for his situation

A huge majority of people have 1 single source of news, that doesn't make them an idealogue

they have access to more, they choose not to because it goes against their confirmation bias. That does make them one

or cuz its nto relevant to their life, and they cba

The stories I heard were that the Ferrakan praise occurred during high level meetings. Was this information relayed to the general women’s march participants back in 2016?

If so, I agree people who heard and ignored it are shitty

but if not I can see why they might have been ignorant of it at the time

I'm not trying to be insulting to you but you seem really detached from how most people in the world operate @Misomania

@Dr.Wol if it wasn't relative to their life then they wouldn't be putting the march as core to their identity

I think you're both about 50-50 tbh

both make good arguments in some places, and are wrong in others

if it's both core to their identity and they didn't look into it... that is the essence of a idealogue

You seem to have a caricature in your mind that doesn't really represent most people.

doesn't have to be Miso,

thats why most people generally join causes and are ignorant about it

They don't know more, and just go cuz it sounds nice

It's not part of their core identity

they wanna stand up for what is right, it makes them feel good

but they are uninformed so what they believe is right, is actually tainted by jaded people

primarily jaded because of a bad religion

@Orteid no, I'm jaded and not accepting self servicing excuses from people that are simply justifying their bad behaivor for their own self interest

they knew what they were getting into, they just didn't care

No, I don't agree. Just because YOU know about it, doesn't mean that everyone else does, too.

and now are again wanting to be the victim... the perpeturity of victim culture

it's victim olympics 101, always make yourself the victim... even of your own bad behaivor

Its the tale of two narratives guys

1. The Womans march is for peace and giving women the equalrights they don't have (allegedly)
2. The Womens march is a push by anti-semites to gain power using peoples ignorance as a force

one of those two bubbles popped for many people

but ultimately, stupidity is no excuse

learn from the past, accept and acknowledge your mistakes or be doomed to repeat them

It's neither of those, though, it's just another anti-Trump protest movement

has nothing to do with women

it was formed by soros ffs

so its the 2n one then @yearspastmatter

it wasn't even a natural formation, it was funded and organized

cuz they're anti-semites and they want to gain power to get rid of Trump, using peoples ignorance of it (supposedly) being for womens rights

there is an old saying that applies to legal situations. Fruit of the poisoned tree

applies to this as well

it seems to me that antisemitism is the stronger force against Trump

or rather, that radical feminism and antisemitism are kinda tag-teaming Trump

Just ask any attendee if they'd support Judge Jeanine or Ann Coulter speaking there

do not many people remember how the women's march counter demonstated the anti sharia law marchers?

or linda sarsour's whole jihad against trump, death to america speech at a women's march rally?

did we really memory hole everything they did?

yes

@Misomania no

They don't

They have no idea

the media is trying their best to do that, yes

That's your bubble dude

You think everyone is as informed as you

And then you shame people for their ignorance and call it "bad behavior"

Most people don't even have the time

so the women who were marching for and holding pro sharia law signs, marching against women holding anti sharia law signs get a pass?

No they don't

But they are a tiny minority

```That's your bubble dude
You think everyone is as informed as you```

the words of a person refusing to leave their bubble

40k did that

It doesn't matter how informed or ignorant a person is, there's absolutely no excuse for what's happening to those Catholic high school kids

That's the whole point

just as another example

@Dr.Wol what's my bubble

Michael Bubble

from what i've read of this convo?

that you think everyone is not as enlightened as you, and that you are the only one seeing clearly

the pro sharia women outnumbered the anti sharia women 100 to 1 btw in those marches 2 years back (still hard to think of it being 2019) @Orteid

it was crazy

Oh please @Dr.Wol

never understood it myself why they wanted sharia law so badly

That's probably the weirdest way you could have interpreted anything I've said

thats cuz i can see your bubble 😛

Also @Misomania I do not believe that stat

@Misomania They know, deep down, that "the patriarchy" isn't real, so they're trying to make it real

@Orteid it's less there being a lot of supporters for and just that the anti sharia law had like 400 people show up total

so they can more easily justify their whinging

have videos on Tim's main channel been mass-flagged before?

like 40k for, 400 against... it was shameful

has he reached a point where they dedicate a live human to reviewing those?

really expected more people to march against sharia law but that is the world I guess

only islamophobes feel any need to oppose sharia law

and the bad things about sharia law only exist to islamophobes

Where did that 40k number come from @Misomania

@Orteid been a while, was watching their live stream and the numbers came from the police organizing the movement of the people

but that is a common occurance. You see like 20 patriot prayer people in a gazebo... and like 1-2k antifa around them... can't remember what protest that was right now

member when thousands of anti protestors showed up to fight the white supremist indian guy running against Pocahontas

OK well I'd have to see that number for myself with regard to the women's march but my earlier point still stands that most people in the march don't know anything about the anti-semitism

Yeah, I don't think my sister would have participated if she had any idea

She's Jewish and lived in Israel for 7 months

but she lives in a bubble

Yeah we all do

hardcore SJW with Trump Derangement Syndrome

We just gotta find what our bubble is

I think a portion of everyone's bubble in here is our information bubble. 99% of people don't follow journalists

She's one of those people who will openly say she does not see the remote possibility of even *respecting* anyone who doesn't hate Donald Trump

regardless though, as adults we are fully responsible for our decisions. That rests solely on the shoulders of the people making them

blaming others and claiming to be a victim simply continues the cycle that caused it in the first place

learn from the past or be doomed to repeat it

What victimization are you talking about? From the very beginning all I've said is that Tim is mischaracterizing most marchers as anti-semites

I'm not talking about victimization

being victims, victimhood culture in that being one makes you a better person. Part of the oppression olympics

rather then admit fault claim to be a victim

What's the relevance here?

that it blocks one from learning if you continually blame others and claim victim status

until that ends, nothing will change and this will repeat

women's march 2.0 will form and it will be the exact same thing, and so on

Are you really saying that people are ignorant of the anti-semitism because of victim culture <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

My guess: Tim's under the impression that most, if not all, of the marchers are politically active and constantly keep up with goings-on in the news re: Trump and activist movements against him, so they'd surely have been aware of the revelations regarding the organization

^

no, that they cannot look at missed warning signs that would have made a better outcome because that it is easier to close your eyes and claim to have never seen anything

I was in a bubble, I never knew... over and over and over again as the cycle repeats

do an autoposy of the movement, look at the warning signs, look at what went wrong and how you intereracted with it. Learn from the past in a honest brutal way because only then can you do better next time

Where would they have even seen those warning signs? Again, most people have 1 (one) source of news, be it CNN, Fox, ABC, MSNBC, or whatever, and as far as I know, none of them have reported on the anti-semitism until very recently

Also

Being in a bubble is fine as long as you recognize it and try to pop it and expand the territory to which your mind travels

That's not the claim people are making

the problem is people knowing they're in a bubble and refusing to do anything but constrict it more

That's the claim I'M making ABOUT the people in the March

That they live in a bubble

Most people will not know about the anti-semitism at all

it's less a bubble and more a bias confirming echo chamber they constructed via social media filters

It won't even cross their mind

OK you're activating rhetoric mode again @Misomania

he is right though. and that is not necessarily on the people in the march and more a problem with social media in general

What is the meaningful difference between "bubble" and that buzzword salad he just posted

They both mean the same thing

well, not quite

bubble does not necessarily imply intent, while constructed echo chamber does

bubble: you hear nothing else. buzzword salad: you hear only things that confirm what you already believe. it's a nuanced difference

bubbles expand and form naturally due to a lack of competition. Talking in a bowling alley is a social bubble. What the social platforms did was exclude and filter the talk while bringing together like minded indivuals that then began to self confirm among each other in a way that would magnify the purpose of the social circle

OK well here's where we have an impass

whereas talking about bowling in a bowling alley is a natural social bubble, bringing together people that for a sole purpose then filtering it out to an extreme degree via block bots and friend circles (recommended via algarythyms) is not natural

echo chambers are intentional, just not by the users. social media pushes you content that you are likely to engage with - that leads to the echo chamber

and yes, facebook/twitter/etc made it all worse intentionally

@I AM ERROR not sure of that. I kind of think they did so intentionally (the users) but that the sheer scope and scale of the platforms they have and the power of the tools to form those echochambers has grown far beyond what the users could fathom

they knew they were making an echo chamber, just not how pure it would become

@Misomania mabye it'll grow to the point of either too big it'll fail. or the tiger will eat the riders?

@Misomania ie what they created will comeback and consume them

i don't think the users intentionally make their echo chambers (well... some most definitely are) they just don't engage people they don't like (and block others) which leads to it... but most don't make a conscious decision to form their own echo chamber

they join for the purpose of seeking like minded people though

which is natural, but that means we naturally seek to form echochambers

None of us can know with any certainty whether or not the echo chambers people build are deliberate or just out of convenience. We can speculate as to whether or not most people explicity choose to only hear voices of what they like and remove voices that they don't, or if it's just a matter of proximity that they only hear voices that they like.

Did you deliberatly choose your friends based on their politics? Most people don't. People just naturally associate with people they have common interests with, and that LEADS to an echo chamber. Most aren't intentionally constructed. Social media just exacerbates the problem that naturally occurs.

Anyway I've gtg but it was nice having this discussion @Misomania @I AM ERROR @yearspastmatter

@Misomania thus they drift by isolation and then see their masters or creaters as facists it be hilarious if they did that btw haha

same, have a good one dude

@Orteid same, going to take the dogs out though so I'm going to be busy...... they love playing in this snow

got like a foot or 2 of snow and they love playing in it

echo chambers are a side-effect of easy access to social circles

https://twitter.com/ItsReactor/status/1085978521225302016 Does anyone see the hypocrisy here in the screencap our Reactor shows?

what? friends of youtube getting benefits?

Totally not fair

welcome to reality

friends get benefits

also, does "wayne" have to deal with the police afterwards? i think not #doublestandards

It's nice to see he's pretty close to Tim

PA and NJ

Have they done collabs before?

Wayne? or Reactor?

Reactor and Tim

yeah

they've done collabs

they even sucked the same teets as children

😄 Oh come on

they're brothers

I know that

so much ESD

I'm in genuine pain

Who is the older one?

🤔

curious to see what the fate of the blue dog democrats will be. They appear to be the last remaining remnent of moderate liberals left and it seems the mainstream democrats are trying to eliminate them from offices

i'd say its Reactor

But who knows

also whats an ESD?

Only way to find out if Tim or Reactor chimes in

And then we have moderate republicans, the polar equalivent to blue dogs

esd = emperor shot dubstep

what

its something good on number 1 trending

so is tim going to do a video on the altercation between the native vet and the teenagers?

yes

nice I just finished mine

then found more information lol

more video keep coming out

the full video's out, almost 2 hours

yeah started watching that as i started uploading mine to youtube

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/buzzfeed-reporter-after-rebuke-by-mueller-declines-to-explain-discrepancies-we-cant-get-into-like-the-details-there

lol oh buzzfeed

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pence-slams-disappointing-pelosi-rejection-of-trump-border-funding-compromise

which maga kids story?

is it the diocese?

at lincoln?

**FuzzyMelon#4264** just left the server.

that they pushed a story by a self described liar, cheater, plagarist mentally ill drug addict who has been fired for pushing fake stories from a dozen outlets and called the thrill of pushing fake stories like the high from drugs (and that he is just as addicted to it) is insane

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/20/sheryl-sandberg-admits-to-facebook-stumbles.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/20/china-set-to-post-slowest-growth-in-28-years-in-2018.html

United States pushes China... United States Growing... China STarts Slowing.

just watch tim's latest video in the morning, is he referring to the kids from the protest?

Really shows that China was leeching our economic growth.

yeah

is his video on it up

1pm pst i guess

so 1 more hour

god... yesterday i had an argument

about that

it is a crazy story that keeps developing

you should see the comment son my video for it

guy pulled up wapo, vox, all the leftist propaganda and said the kids surrounded him and mocked him...

i pulled up AP and showed differences

FAlse story.... Adam Schiff wants to investigate it.

said AP is trump's propaganda machine

😄

@Timcast
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/20/buzzfeed-report-mueller-schiff/

yeah all i got was i am a racist, dont under stand white privilege, deserve to be a victim.

Adam Schiff is wanting to start another investigation based off Buzz Feed Story.

the buzzfeed article sounds like almost equal fiction to the steele dossier

lmao

remember the pee tape debacle? ya

yea, that whole thing about the maga kids was like... what exactly happened?

and the left were like, "just listen to what I have to say. don't think, just listen and believe"

D:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/18/democrats-vow-probes-afte-report-that-trump-told-cohen-to-lie-to-congress.html

Schiffhead

yeah they basically said native man therefore vicitm. Kid has maga hat therefore instigator and the devil's child

CNBC and Daily Caller are reporting schiff wants a investigation into the trump tower meeting thanks to buzzfeed bombshell report.

media grandstanding

Mueller already had his people come out and say its not true

I love seeing BuzzFeed being trashed like this

i wonder

can buzzfeed now get sued by the state for obstructing justice?

Cuz their actions draw into question the liability of the Mueller investigation

due to a potential leak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RShIkATc50

I saw that in my subs, that's a heap of BS

they appear to be cracking down on anyone disputing the narrative

^did you read the AP take of it?

TOS Paragraph 2 "No one is allowed to question the official MSM approved narrative"

Streisand effect

Do u know da wae? @Timcast