I think what makes this assassination feel noble and not... like vigilante horseshit

Russia lost against so many factions like there

Well, lost alot for so little gain

Is that he was clearly ready to end his OWN life with it, and it was addressing the ROOTS of the problem, and not the symptom.

Hows that different from suicide bombers?

"Commie leader. Target. And DEAD. And now myself. Hail emperor."

I guess in suicide bombers its indescriminate

Bang up job, I'd say.

That kid had one target and one only

How is that different from double murder suicides?

Well he's not murdering random commies.

He's murdering HEAD commie.

He saved countless lives.

As much as I can respect that, I dont want to imagine commies retaliating in kind

The only thing that makes it seem noble

is the historical context of the action

Or take that as a reason. He was lucky the commie movement was tiny and that nip nipped it in the bud

Not the fact that he killed himself, but the context of how.

If communism hadn't been attempted yet?

I'd say this was way out of line.

It's the fact that we know what it does **every single fucking time.**

This would've been post-war, right?

Post WW2?

Or more like he loved his country and had the conviction to say that communicm will destroy it

1960.

Kid had the country in mind, and the emperor

Yeaaaah.

Even today, Japan only has to mention the idea of raising its military to make that side of the world scared.

Think they should raise one? China is getting rather scary

This would've not only been after Red Square

It was also a very CLEAN and BRAVE assassination.

need another major power here

but after seeing it divide Korea and Vietnam

He went for the GUT. With a BLADE. Not long distance bullshit.

And no face-mutiliation.

"You wanna be a commie? Okay. Open casket funeral. That's the best I can do."

Be lucky retards dont think further than walk up to trump with a gun and hope they hit

I heard there were two attempts like that so far

How many assassins have CHARGED like that?

Im just not keen on the precedent on killing political opponents. It was lucky the commies left it like that.

Well, it depends on the policy.

And by that point WE KNEW WHAT THE POLICY DID.

And that opinion is subjective as hell

I say "we" for some reason.

As everyone will have very different ideas on the policy

I'm actually a little more inclined to go with that one.

Not simply because communism

but because that guy was witnessing a rise of an idea that has divided an entire continent

I guess so. He knew the consequences

I'm surprised that really was the end of it.

Like straight up. Has communism emerged in Japan since..?

How FUCKING LUCKY was that.

To prosperous for that.

Even the homeless there live decent

Wouldnt say happy, but decent.

Crime too low

More likely to be victim of Aggravated Suicide.

In Japan you can plug a vending machine into an outlet in the middle of farmland

And no one will break into it.

Crimes too low cause the poor have less reason to commit crime

If you're homeless ANYWHERE, Japan is the place to be.

Peaceful fucks.

Also the culture

Well if you are japanese

The word to describe the japanese

If you had to use ONE WORD

It's 'considerate'

Niponjin

Xenophobic as hell. But considerate anyway

You'd have to look no further than an anime fight scene to see what I'm talking about.

I really wouldn't fellate the Japanese culture quite that much

"THE ANGEL IS ATTACKING THE BASE. WE HAVE 37 SECONDS BEFORE PENETRATION."

"Hrmmm...."

"Let's consider."

And then they calmly consider what could stop it. And calmly lock crosshairs on the correct option.

That sort of.. climax. Comes from a culture where that is the modus operandi of things.

Japan considers **everything.**

...no it doesn't

Ya huh.

I wouldnt use fiction as a way to describe their thought process as a whole

Gonna have to disagree with judging a culture by it's entertainment

**Ya huh.**

If you want something closer to reality

Id use historical movies

Seven Samurai

Tora Tora Tora was great in that regard

"This guy. He's not much of a fighter. But he's very jolly. He'll be very useful in a stressful pinch."

I'm paraphrasing.

But they find a way to be optimistic about his mediocre skills.

Then again thats the difference between murica and jap culture

And if you disagree, I have a hot "Ya huh" to say to you.

WHich ill admit I love japan when it comes to char design

Don't test me or I'll "Ya huh" all over this fuckin place bro

Though to be honest, im a sucker for anythign Falcom

That's like saying, that guy may seem like he's nothing but miserable, but he's a right smile when you chuck him down a flight of stairs.

Well it's like.

They were about to get into a situation where they were gonna need a few laughs.

What's life without joy

It's a pragmatic way to think.

They CONSIDERED.

So its basically optimism or gallows humor

"Wait wait wait. Guys. I think we forgot to consider."

"--What?! Damn he's right. Let's go back."

You know for a game with genocide, concentration camps, and ethnic cleansing

Valkyria Chronicles is somehow jolly

Cringy dialog sometimes

I told you the word that I'd sum up Japan with.

But here's the GESTURE I'd sum up Japan with.

Nothin inconsiderate there, but I cant name another game with that theme in the US

Call of duty

A chin, jutting outwards slightly, rising up. And then the index finger, middle finger and thumb, sliding from the outskirts of the chin, to the tip, repeatedly

And a sound coming from the nose "Hrmmmmm.."

"HRMMMMMMM..."

"Okay so Super Mario. He mustn't fall into pits. The player must learn this, but without cheating them."

"So we have a death pit early on. But it's structured in the exact same way as a series of blocks from earlier, WITHOUT the pit. It will serve as practice."

"Hrmmmmm. I agree."

is this loss?

That is genius design in its sheer simplicity.

There's a preliminary non-fatal version of the fatal thing.

That player will simply WANT to not fall into the thing the first time

But as its level 1 they're JUST getting used to the controls.

So it's practice.

It would be so easy not to realize you should do this.

ok theres too much bouncing around

I'm still saying Japan is considerate!

I aint bouncin no way no how!!

Because they do the things literally every good game designer should do?

o: ...

If not for Nintendo, do you realize how dead video games might've stayed during that time?

It only seems like common sense because it was done so well.

There weren't rocksteady rules for any of this!

The idea of training people before letting them undertake a more risky task existed long before this

Its just being applied to video games in this case

But without any instructions?

That's the genius.

No "Mario, you see those?"

Controller in your hand, character on screen, obstacles.

Teaching with just those. That was the incredible part.

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth THIS is loss.

i was hoping someone would do this

I was having trouble with one of the bushes

and then I remembered my Super Mario Bros. trivia

and took a cloud.

you aint verified

get that shit out of here

ye man, worst kept vidya game secret in the bizz 😛

clouds are bushes man

Games back then had instructions, but they werent always in the game

Usually they were in the acompanying manual

Also, I wouldn't call the trait of harnessing the brain's ability to learn from intuitive means a specifically Japanese trait.

Portal actually did a lot of the same sort of tricks.

aye, but they applied is masterfully in vidya first

like with megaman

All the best games could be played without supplemental material.

original

Mega Man X does the Mario level 1 thing.

Japan dominated the vidya industry early on anyway.

The only reason they got the opportunity to dominate it is because america dropped the ball as hard as it did.

A complete and total lack of quality control.

their loss

All the corporations could buy the big licenses and make game swith recognizable titles. But they weren't programmers. So they made ALL the worst games.

This constant trickery of good licenses having bad games, and parents just buying them based on license, it did meltdown eventually.

All those games hit bargain bins, and the companies that DIDN'T melt down didn't know what that meant.

It just made the same problem worse.

So Tim said he had to catch a plane in his second channel video yesterday

CHEAP bad games against NORMAL PRICED good games.

Is he going to Portland?

So what do parents buy?

i still am very sceptical on games based on non game licenses

These were all problems of an age without internet.

Little Nemo Dream Master was pretty good.

Without youtube videos.

Based on a comic from the early 1900s

That was Capcom.

Every license game Capcom touched was

💋 👌

Fan**tiss**imo~

But Scribble, one thing you've got to consider is this, saying that it's a basic Japanese trait in a way degrades the genius of Miyamoto himself.

It's a civilization that pops Miyamoto out like a sunflower seed.

Not a race. A civilization.

Japan is like madagascar. Isolated, so its weird self-reliance fluorishes.

I mean, I get what you're saying. I say Japanese in a cultural sense.

But I think you're giving way too much credit to the culture, and not enough to the individuals.

o: ... Well of course Miyamoto's individual-ness helped.

Which betrays Japanese cultural values as well.

But often as a creator, your efforts are quashed by people around you NOT GETTING IT.

Frequently on display is a flourish of individual exceptionalism

For example, Legend of Zelda was inspired by Miyamoto walking around forests without a map

He wants to make a game about that

Someone has to say "Yes. I can see that. Let's do it."

And... THEY DID!

That's where Japan itself helps.

People who learn to GET OUT OF THE WAY is an asset.

right. Window seats.

So many countries don't have that.

But japan CONSIDERS.

Legend of Zelda wasn't originally developed, though, as what it became.

It was originally developed as dungeon-building software

in much the same vein as Super Mario Maker

One person builds dungeons and the like, for others to try to beat

Hydelide.

I wouldnt attribute the achievements of the few on the whole

Theres alot of creative geniuses in Japan yes

Plenty of weaker games existed by that point.

As proofs of concept that probably helped.

"Okay we do this part, but not shit. And THAT part, but not shit."

"And this, except we don't ripoff the Indiana Jones theme."

I don't see how Hydelide disproves my angle.

The game was originally a dungeon-builder. It turned into a better version of Hydelide later on. Making it sound like he just got this idea from walking around a forest and then he made it isn't quite an accurate portrayal.

There are countless examples of japans collectivism backfiring on them

Especially in the games industry

Find someone whos played Metal Gear Solid Five and ask them what they think of it

Hideo kojima, brilliant creator got literally fired by his company halfway through writing it

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Japanese culture isn't beautiful. I really do like a hefty portion of it.

But given how good it is, it's really easy to cross into excessive praise of it where it's undue.

I've been there before, myself. I was once... A weeb.

Like, one of the interesting differences that I learned in Japanese class is one of the initial Japanese greetings. Their equivalent to 'Nice to meet you', our Japanese teacher (who was native and ESL, mind) translated it roughly to 'Please take care of me'.

The dungeon builder bit was probably AROUND the whole "No map" thing

And then they decided that was a little much.

(probably a better refutation)

It was impractical.

anyway a lot of people actually laughed at this translation, but when you really inspect it, there's an important cultural mistranslation. It's really more an equivalent of 'Please treat me well'.

The truth is, it's valid to say that Japanese is actually a rather polite culture, but it's also worth considering it's a culture from which massive amounts of violence have come as well. It highlights exceptionalism in it's modern incarnation, but that exceptionalism comes largely from a culture that doesn't tolerate failure.

There's a reason such a polite-seeming and considerate culture has such a high suicide rate.

Earlier I mentioned Window Seats.

I'm not sure if you're familiar with that expression.

Many Japanese firms don't really fire people.

Instead, if someone has failed them, they move their desks to the outskirts of the office, and basically pay them to look out the window.

It's the dirty side of the asset of 'getting out of the way'.

Day in, day out, no work is crossing your desk. You want to work, but all you've got is an empty desk. They don't trust you to work.

American culture might consider that to be a great job. Well paid to look out a window.

But to a culture that values exceptionalism, and performance, to be not given a chance is insulting.

on a fundamental level.

Sounds kinda cruel even to an American
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Tim just went live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL8Tt7-PJHc&feature=push-lbss&attr_tag=kWwg-jyC9FJ8zbOu%3A6

Shit man

Luke Rudkowski's live right now, too

The 5 fastest people in the world:

5) Tyson Gay
4) Justin Gatling
3) Jesse Owens
2) Usain Bolt
1) Tom Cruise

The reason the window seat thing might not seem cruel to a lot of americans

Things happening in Portland yet?

Just yelling and chanting

Could be, I suspect, because many americans are used to working their hardest and never getting recognized for it.

And therefore coming to Peter's conclusion in Office Space.

Why bother, if they're not gonna give a shit either way.

For no work with pay to sound like torture, has to come from *something.*

It pretty heavily stems from Samurai culture.