We're fully aware of what sort of ideologue we're dealing with, I thinhk, Taek.

I have a bitcoin wallet from like 10 years ago.

@Graylan | gray00 People "own" Stocks is because they think they will make money off it, they are "told" it is a stable place to put their retirement funds.

Sadly its worthless

so what are we talking today

Crypto enables that

I can't remember the super complicated password

Crapto currency @Pondo

lol, again?

ofc

crypto and dapps solve niche problems

Some dude gave me like 15 dollars of a worthless altcoin, traded it for btc, then I played the exchange and turned my 15 dollars worth of BTC into like 60

Well, when you own stocks, you own a portion of the company.

got bored, then bitcoin crashed

and they will have niche demographics

Dr wol likes his debt money.

When you own Bitcoin, you own a portion of the Bitcoin system.

@Graylan | gray00 And the process off Fiat -> Crypto Coin -> Pay with Crypto Coin -> Back to Fiat isn't simple and easy for the vast majority of people.

That much makes sense

That is why they don't fucking use it

But if that's the model you're using

this discord only discusses 5 topics
"SJW's"
"Crapto currency"
"Universal Basic Implosion"
"Trannies"
"Trump"

lol

you'e forgetting the jews

damn

Tim's beanie

jews is #1 topik

because t he Normies Don't fucking give a shit about things like Fiat and Crypto

i said Trannies @taekahn 😉

they give a shit about paying their rent and eating.

currency stoichiometry

Did you just assume gender chracteristics of a protected class?

"debt currency"

said by a person advocating a currency thats dependent on said "debt currency"

But yeah, if that's the model you're using, comparing stocks to bitcoin, companies that trade stock pull revenue.

Invest in silver and survival food

invest in weed

its on the rise

buy gold and bullets

The only value derived from owning Bitcoin is what you're able to buy with it.

Actually invest in guns

Golden bullets

@ryuplaneswalker im not in it for the money. I'm in it because I want to build innovative things for people so they will never get banned.

buy people

I wish i could buy people

Because preppers without guns are just preppers for people with guns

i need to buy some guns ...

i'd buy like 6 concubines

only six?

Shit on it all you want. Its not going anywhere.

dude, i'm not greedy

before the filthy goys steal my shekels

"Its not going anywhere" true

People like not being banned.

you need one for each day of the week

Wrong

untill a man in the middle approach ends it

People like not being banned from platforms they want to be on

lol, i need a day to rest

@Graylan | gray00 and most people DONT GIVE A SHIT about that.

even god needed a day to rest

I dont give a fuck if im banned from pintrest

Have a redpill for that, Countess.

You want to make "Crypto popular"

you need to make it easy for the normies to use

😉

@Misomania yeah. Not in crypto. Bitcoin it's 51% steem dpos doesn't have that.

its not gonna happen Graylan,

if crypto becomes this holy grail of avoiding censorship, they'll just lock it out by requiring you and said "crypto websites" (for lack of a better term) to be white-listed before you can access internet with it

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That is why credit Cards are popular

You need 17 of top 20 nodes to vote

you know, how phones used to have operators connecting you

@Graylan | gray00 man in the middle attack refers to relying on infrastructure that can be compromised. It's basically impossible to remedy

@Missbehaved how does that remove my data from the blocks?

those in control of the net get to dictate what goes through it

^

I mean kinda...

you can tunnel

tunnel still leaves a destination IP address

How do you man in the middle attack 20 countries and 100s of experienced developers and we have auditors already who broke our chain.

still blockable

In reference to tim's new video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9TS1pRmajU

I hope crypto can dodge censorship and give us some breathing room,

But ultimately its gonna be stopped too

Its an evolution race

@Graylan | gray00 with a botnet

@Graylan | gray00 by giving ICANN to europe

which they did

Ok so how do you do that to 100s of people all at once.. icann doesn't control ip

Icann has no say in steem

botnet

Icann is dns

it controls all of IP address naming

We don't use dns

No it doesn't

what is "ip address naming"

Icann only has a repo of IP.. doesn't control

False.

simple, you reverse the connectability,

instead of "anyone can connect unless you blacklist their access"

switch it to "you can only connect if you're green-lit"

It is awesome that you guys are arguing stupid bullshit while ignoring the real issues with Crypto.

I can create my own ip net

@Countess shows your traffic where to go and how to find the targeted IP address

Or someone who is greenlit runs an exit node

Icann doesn't effect that.

Please learn about the internet

Icann doesnt control bgp

@ryuplaneswalker whats the real issue tho? i mean its bound to not be a holy grail already

@Countess yeah the people who can take control of servers are the atf and stuff. Oink.co.uk

Atf has no authority to take over crypto.

@Dr.Wol Practical use for the mass population.

They are fucked.

We have nodes in China now too lol.

ah that, i already mentioned that earlier

Blocking things while leaving the internet functional is damn near impossible

believe me, china is trying

people wont bother if its more difficult than waht they have now

and failing

all this shit that these two are talking about doesn't actually matter if 90% of the population can't actually use these things.

but fuck that shit

@Countess bingo. Btc still is mined in China

fuck making it usable for the population

I said that already 😄

MY INTERNET MECHANICS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

just lock it out

Dr wol why is Bitcoin mined in China?

Thought it was so easy to block.

Hmm.

cuz they're not blocking it, its usable money for them

They are blocking it

Blocking things is legit hard

You are wrong again.

they're trying to put a lid on it

I work with a ton of chinese peple

and they use VPNs on everything

if they really wanted to block it, they'd switch their internet system, overhaul it so you need to be whitelisted until you can even use it

that way you can keep track of anyone

and even use AWS/Google Cloud/Azure if needed

Who needs to block it in China

@Countess then you know how China blocks everything. And how they use VPN .... :d

@Countess traitor

"You bought bit coin?" - 1000 social points

I have friends in China too.

Hey they work at my company

Now you can't rent a house.

man, that is worse than a 50 dkp minus

chinese are not your friends

China is too dependent on the current internet for them to overhaul their system, it will tank their economy if they do,

Hence instead of revamping, they're just putting lids on it desperately, and thats nearly impossible to maintain

I have chinese friends

from ICANN's own site "Again, ICANN does not run the system, but it does help co-ordinate how IP addresses are supplied to avoid repetition or clashes" they coordinate the singular node that gets that IP address and can revoke or replace it

racist

raycis

You are retarded @Pondo .

you're*

actually, they turned out not to be my friend

see?

just because you're right, doesn't mean you're right

im right

u'll see

if ICANN wanted a site to vanish, or a crypto node, then it can

Gray are you actually trying to say the Chinese government are remotely not evil?

because holy shit.

they're a government, like any government they're desperately clutching for straws that prevents them from crashing

@Misomania no that isn't correct.

Took my chinese friends to the gun range when they visited

showed them some 'murika

Icann doesn't do anything with ip

It's only a repo

Doesn't control shit.

no, there will be worldwide blockchain, all governments will spontaneously abolish themselves, and then we live in glorious communist anarchy

And I can create my own ip net.

@Dr.Wol Do you know about their social Credit system?

@Graylan | gray00 they have an entire section dedicated to coordinating it and another for root servers to host it all

@Misomania proof?

i do Ryu, its gonna have people force out the undesirables in their own society

ICANN != BGP

seriously google bgp

I wish i could gain high social status by turning in innocent people

@Countess ffs he won't listen.

@Graylan | gray00 they tell you right on their site https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/what-2012-02-25-en

@Dr.Wol You talk like those undesirables don't end up in "re-education camps"

i didn't read anything about taht, but i imagine thats step 2 Ryu

DNS != IP

they got muzzies in there already 😉

Learn to read

Dr. Wol they already have it for Muslims

ICANN doesn’t control content on the Internet. It cannot stop spam and it doesn’t deal with access to the Internet. But through its coordination role of the Internet’s naming system, it does have an important impact on the expansion and evolution of the Internet.

Says it clear as day

yes

"As mentioned earlier, ICANN’s role is to oversee the huge and complex interconnected network of unique identifiers that allow computers on the Internet to find one another.

This is commonly termed “universal resolvability” and means that wherever you are on the network – and hence the world – that you receive the same predictable results when you access the network. Without this, you could end up with an Internet that worked entirely differently depending on your location on the globe."

hence i wouldn't be surprised if they apply it to their undesirables

Also these blocks are already allocated

That isn't an If though

That is a when

We don't use dns .

fair point

Icann is invalid

Has no fucking use in internet 3.0

So forget them.

it said nothing in that about dns, it said unique identifiers

We said we don't want it already.

you saying...
Icann will be


Icann't?! O_o

Indeed.

all unique identifiers

they get to oversee it all

I could be wrong . Crypto could just completely die.

@Missbehaved they don't have any say over ips

They only hold a repo for it.

and by their own claims, they get to decide what sites have those unique identifers direct to them globally

i doubt it will die, Crypto has good potential,

I just don't see it being a messiah for the internet

Please stop spreading misinformation.

I would find it fascinating to raise someone with a SSN

Its perfectly legal

@Graylan | gray00 Crypto won't completely die, the problem is making it usable for the mass public before society goes back into the dark ages.

Just so that when people ask "what's your ssn"
They can say I dont have one.

you can jerk off to tech all you want

I want Crypto to become ubiquitous.

but it doesn't matter until the average person can use it *points at smart phones*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Assigned_Numbers_Authority

Smart phones existed way before the Iphone, but Apple made it EASY to use

what Ryu said,

Ultimately, its not crypto the technology that will fail,

It will be the accessability TO it that will

@Misomania you can learn bout it there dude.. like ive said many times.. they hold a REPO... they dont control shit.

this is FALSE....

Also the fact that i can't get into my wallet

Literally the only hope of Crypto to succeed is for crypto to succeed.

Yeah they are literally just a board of advisors that say what blocks are distributed where

Wise words Rye 😛

It's biggest obstacles are marketing, accessibility, and the people who use it themselves.

@Countess exactly. shit if im wrong correct me cuz i could be wrong...

just give me a link so im less retarded later on lol

accessibility,

and USABILITY

if its more difficult than what we have now, its never gonna work

people aren't that smart

Well, that's included UNDER accessability.

And you can't spell usability without USA
USA USA USA

@Dr.Wol we are trying our best dude. most of the good projects get no money.. and the scams get billions literally.

the space was raped by bitconnect and Cunts

and still is suffering. it will be a LONG bear.

well good luck to ya'z on that, i do hope it will succeed

IP addresses are distributed in a hierarchical system. As the operator of Internet Assigned Numbers
Authority (IANA) functions, ICANN allocates IP address blocks to the five Regional Internet Registries
(RIRs) around the world. (The “regions” of the Regional Internet Registries are roughly continental in
size.) The RIRs then allocate smaller IP address blocks to ISPs and other network operators. From there,
the ISPs and other Internet operators assign the addresses to the individual Internet connections you
are probably accustomed to.

@Graylan | gray00 it isn't about trying your best, it is about the person who will come along and translate crypto for the masses.

say what you want about Jobs

he was FUCKING GOOD at that

Basically, that.

MP3 Players?

he was certainly good at telling people waht they were missing in your life

There are some hard problems to solve

didn't take off till Jobs did Itunes and The Ipod

"You have this mp3 player...

But what if? you could call people on it!"

you plug it in

it loads up your songs

I can guarantee you that there are many banks that are trying to offer crypto services

you walk away with your songs and a play button.

yeah these are very hard problems. @Countess i spend countless hours writing code and brainstorming and then implementing to test the social reaction..