@Atkins All you can do is ad hom and strawman

Does it still make me ***academic***

i thought the topic was how best to deal with the deplatforming issue

he does tend to do that, although he has his right moments

Go earn some money. Conquer some markets for me.

that's easy, give them a platform

```I don't even know what sides there are right now :smile: much less the topic```
@Dr.Wol#9845
He's arguing that Corporations should do whatever they like and that we should not stop them because that would mean we use force, while ignoring that the Corporations use force.
I've even Linked this Article:
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/03/07/geforce_partner_program_impacts_consumer_choice

YOOOOOOO

NIGGAS

@Swedishmafia101 only if sitting on an egg makes me a chicken

@Swedishmafia101 No, but most professors arent really academics anymore either. Being an academic more or less would require you to research and propose your own theories or understandings of said things you read or researched.

I think his definition of force is different from yours.

@Stefan Payne Strawman

No, correct .P

I GOT 1250 ON MY PSAT

He subscribes to the "I-am-not-touching-you-I-am-not-touching-you" definition of force

Does it make me ***cultured*** ?

as much as tim likes to lambast libertarians for "not wanting any regulations" any reasonable person think there should be reasonable regulation to ensure a healthy market.

In an ideal world, corporations should be allowed to do what they want, cuz people would be smart enough to just flip the market and support alternative platforms,

We don't live in an ideal world, so we need some leverage (the government) to maintain "some" control,

We lost that however as our governments are paid for by the very corporations the government is supposed to contain

Funny.according to @Crimsom I'm an academic.

@Swedishmafia101 Utilize the word Learned.

He may subscribe to that, but I subscribe to PewDiePie

LOL they used the comical fan art of Pewds that was in Pewdiepie's video

Oooh

Im out

@Zer0 You probablly are, just not the stereotype many have in there mind.

What fucking tools

I'm on both sides because I think that any idea that is uncontested soon becomes an echochamber that crawls up it's own ass to die, so I am all over the place because I think all forms of this need a counterpoint to anchor and balance itself

Imma call my girlfriend and tell her I'm a **LEARNED** person now

I am a radical centrist

i'm an analogue centrist 😉

```In an ideal world, corporations should be allowed to do what they want, cuz people would be smart enough to just flip the market and support alternative platforms,
We don't live in an ideal world, so we need some leverage (the government) to maintain "some" control,
We lost that however as our governments are paid for by the very corporations the government is supposed to contain```

Exactly!
Because in an ideal World, Corporations wouldn't do stuff that might hurt or even kill the User!.
But they do, they exist....

@Dr.Wol probably not best characterized as 'maintaining control' so much as some sort of corrective mechanism for the failure modes of capitalism.

I'm a fit centrist

* dabs *

yeah, i can agree with that Atkins

Information TERRORISM

In an ideal world Elon Musk made anime girls real

Capitalism is pretty good, but no human system is perfect. That's black and white thinking in a world of grey. All human systems fuck up eventually.

Its roughly what i meant,

Keep the market free, but if it starts becoming unbalanced, have government give it a little "nudge" in the right direction again

@>_ Elon Chan*

I quite college. started a business that made to much money to Warrant wasting it on a school that didn't have any teacher that could teach me anything. Sold the business to become a farming scholar. its winter so i now have time. to do scholarly things.

but not force it, cuz Government is bad at making choices 😄

Elon Musk is only Elon Chan in an ideal world @Crimsom

its almost insulting to be called an academic. 😛

I love it when instead of debating ideas we devolve to debating how big brain we are

```Keep the market free, but if it starts becoming unbalanced, have government give it a little "nudge" in the right direction again```
Exactly my point. The Gouvernment has to look at the corporations that they don't abuse the Consumer and misuse them as well as the Market, so that they don't force other companys to do things their way.

Only an academic deals in absolutes.

well, thats a grey area already,

Who decides whats "abusing the consumer"?

wish i had a big brain.

Big gay

Big gay decides

noice

Look, as long as the coprs aren't colluding, chances are they are going to work in the best interest of the consumer

@Dr.Wol Don't do something with the Data the User gives you and don't do products that will hurt or kill the Consumer when used correctly.

competition is the best sauce

We all know gays have superior judgement

@Zer0 I'm happy for you, and yes, being called an academic now rarely comes with any respect. Keep to your research over the winter, come up with some new theory or something. Personally, even if it is sub-par to quality some professors paper may have, as long as you introduce something new to the field and develop it, you are contributing much more to society than any professor who just regurgitates the things his colleagues say.

Sooo, I had a discussion with an "intellectual" the other day... It was pretty interesting...

welp there goes alcohol banning 😛

"Don't do something with the Data the user gives you"
That's all tech and financial transactions ever, really

@Swedishmafia101 Did he actually call himself an intellectual

you can argue that Alcohol doesn't hurt you, when applied correctly.

and i can agree on don't misuse personal data,

But then again, if...

What beemann just said

```competition is the best sauce```
Problem is that some markets (or all?) tend to go towards Monopolys.

@Stefan Payne Directly to the forehead.

Can we ban thots already k thnks

@Crimsom yes, he called himself an intellectual in the most ridiculous sentence ever

@Stefan Payne Which is why governments role should be to ensure competition

@Swedishmafia101 Lmao, how humble.

Monopolys wouldn't be bad if they had the consumer at heart,

But they don't, so they inevitably go bad

ala, what they aren't doing with telcoms

Any market with a significant barrier to entry tends to monopoly.

I got into talking about fitness and the importance of a healthy lifestyle...

Big pharma has nothing on big gay

```@Stefan Payne Which is why governments role should be to ensure competition```
EXACTLY!
And ensure a fair and open market.

The Geforce Partner Programm violates this.

But what about youtube?

Youtubes market is raelly poor for profit, it has no "marketable value"

Youtube is a monopoly simply cuz theres no interest in becoming a competitor

He said this:

"I don't need to work out because I'm an intellectual, so those things don't interest me"

Or something along those lines

Hence why utilities are called 'natural monopolies', because they have massive barriers to entry: you have to built a distribution system (i.e., powerlines, generators, pipes, resevoirs, etc)

so how do you split them appart?

The ass cheeks of big gay?

Youtube is not as secure a monopoly as a utility, but it does have monopoly power due to network effects.

Youtube is a net-loss,

So no other company wants to compete,

How do you break up a monopoly in a market thats failing

Then he started making the point that it is impossible to be attractive AND smart

Like wtf

People use Youtube because everyone else uses youtube.

There are competitors anyway though

that too

most competitors can't compete cuz the market just isn't there

We had a great solution for the "Utility Problem" in Germany, before Privatization: The local gouvernments are the ones responsible for them, wich means the People.

Smart people tend to be attractive e

The primary issue competition is facing right now is MasterCard leaning on them

@Crimsom thats my goal.

Bitchute is just as good as Youtube in terms of functionality (from the user perspective anyway), but nobody uses it because nobody else uses it.

^

That was always going to be a slow shift though

```Bitchute is just as good as Youtube in terms of functionality (from the user perspective anyway), but nobody uses it because nobody else uses it.```
Quality of the Videos aren't there as well.
Seems like 1,5MBit at most

@Swedishmafia101 Ah yes, the "I'm "smart" so I shouldnt work out crowd." Literally a dingus. I work out quite often and still have stellar preformance in college. A small amount of excercise a day, and a bit of sophistication in the way you dress and you can easily be attractive.

So with a big enough external disruption that can flip quickly, but the current monopoly has the market power to stifle disruption.

Gradual exodus as YouTube drives away its userbase with poor practices

Yeah

Just let YouTube keep bleeding itself dry

Only Youtube can bring down Youtube.

@>_ CRAWLING IN MY SKIN!

I believe that anyone can be attractive if they just try

if Youtoube wouldn't fight for its market, i'd wager it would split a bit,

Bitchute like 20-30% market
Youtube 70-80%

Simply due to people being too lazy to leave

and Youtube has a female (Affirmative Action???) CEO, wich means they will be going down like Yahoo!

Youtube, for example, could cut revenue for creators that mirrored their content elsewhere.

kind of like how Android and IOS are

Im not sure youtube can even bring youtube down. the consumer is pretty trained.

@Swedishmafia101 Applies to 90% of things in life. Just try and put the work in.

Exactly

Like any other company, the worst enemy of the company is itself. And its inability to give the consumer what the consumer wants

There's also the horizontal integration of other Google products that gives Youtube massive benefits.

don't companies tend to get rid of their talent as it becomes more successful/established?

The YT app comes pre-installed on all Google devices.

Google is a shit company that doesn’t care about consumers

until it's full of nepotistic hires and stuff

I have no classical training in painting, but I taught myself how and sold enough paintings to buy my first car (900$ used) at 18.

@ʇooNʇooN yes

Wow

There is no Bitchute App for Nintendo Switch

and Nintendo removed the Web Browser

Just usually need a goal, but few people are motivated by even that

Well tbh I am a semi self taught pianist

You're right

Solja Boy consul has bitchute as the main video program

I am a meat Popsicle

or an attack helicopter.

Select gender

I choose Pikachu

*mortal combat theme music*

my gender is attack helicopter

I sexually identify as Exodia the FORBIDDEN ONE!

i sexually identify as a jar of mayonnaise

Whoever’s username is @ʇooNʇooN Kys

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I just wanna say, to everyone

Subscribe to PewDiePie!!

sub to pewdiepie

*Uses indian sorcery* u gay

win the youtube war!

FUCK, there's the Farming Simulator Switch Edition.
WHY, just WHY....

If you don't get motivated to life healthy by watching ripped people succeed,

Try becoming motivated by watching morbidly obese people struggle

Worked for me

I get amused watching them try to walk up stairs. Am I evil?

Big gAy

@Stefan Payne to try and get people like me happy without actualy going out and farming

oh btw, Rubin Report lost 500 Patrons or 5000 Dollars a Month

Minecraft serves the same purpose

damn

I'm now thinking that David is just the default character from Stardew Valley

why?

WAit why

rip anyone relying of patreon

@Stefan Payne

Rubin should get a SubStar

substar is down you idiot

for paypal payout

Hmmm

Its not down but can't do Paypal Payout

Let's hope Gab gets its thing sorted out

And the Reps

T Series (tm) is much better than that Nazi (tm) Pewdiepie (tm)

Fuck you beemann

And the Reps/Trump are too stupid to get the FTC involved.

send your $1 bills to po box 1187 michigan way

When was Nazi trademarked?

I wanna know who stole that from under me

Just to summarize the wisdom that was shared today, before I go to sleep

Ahem...

fuck jannies

T gay

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<:gnome:273551039855198209>

Obese people are funny to laugh at

Be healthy

Patreon is gay

Subscribe to PewDiePie

Toxic (tm) Pewdiepie (tm) fanboys are attacking me. Donate to my IndieGoGo (tm)

So why did Rubin loose all those patrons @Stefan Payne

Goodnight everybody

p gay

every time, youtube hides one of tim's notifications from me

@>_ Sargon's fault, because he got purged.

Patreon more like Patgay

i subbed to pewdiepie cuz the interwebs told me he had to beat t series

T gay

patreon's fault not sargon

Oh so all the people leaving

Hit Rubin?

Oopsie now yer dug's a Nazi m8

Patreon = bitch lasagna

if he beats t-series we all beat t-series

pretty much @>_

that Jewish Gnome is there right now, live at Rubin Report

so not uninteresting

I'm jewish

Pewds actually is nearing 1.5 million more subs than T series

he almost increased his distance 10-fold

like a boss

and is increasing

I subbed to pewdiepie

india has like 1.2 billion people so i don't feel like this is a race pewdiepie can win long term lol

NO

😡

all the americas and Europe combined have 1.7 billion

he's not fighting against a race though? <:cirPrise:164613790485184512>

oh I'm dumb

pretend I'm not here

LOL

did someone speak?

as far a this de-platforming by the payment processors goes. Instead of arguing over stupid shit shouldn't we be putting our heads together and trying to pull in devs to solve this problem?

start our own bank?

I'm just looking for an actual paypal alternative

Yeah, essentially.

the bank of Wol 😉

because I want to get into cryptocurrency, but you basically have to go through paypal to get to it

Ryan Dawson has a solution for that.

Move to Asia and use Asian Processors

because cryptocurrency doesn't block payments for ideological reasons

I'm used to be a dev. I've already spoken with some old buddy's. we do plan on getting together to see if its feasible to do anything. if anyone is interested let me know.

Isn't Substar Russian??

has square deplatformed anyone yet? cash app might be an alternative

its too big for a few devs

I know that why I'm looking for interest

no i mean like

It's a lack of infrastructure problem, not lack of a developer talent problem.

You need to compete as a BANK for the money going in and out

AND you need to compete as an internet server/domain/ISP

So that you can't get like Stormfronted

where you just get kicked off your own domain

yeah

I am fully capable of understanding the scope of the issue. I need a crap ton a devs to hopp on and we need to work our asses of to write a real solution.

this needs more than just devs

it needs investors, employees

lawyers and investors and bankers and stuff

jesus christ

Mumkey's new accounts have been deleted

wait really?

What a shitshow.

Yep

wtf

yes

yes

https://twitter.com/VincentHatesGod/status/1073705068963209216
https://twitter.com/VincentHatesGod/status/1073705135019343872

All he has is twitch and patreon now

88k+ on his main alt, I dunno on his other

bitchute it is

plus the 300k+ he had before

and you can't trust patreon to stay lol