Net bad all around

There are cases where they might make sense.

The only use is trying to secure lower tariffs of our own

China, for example, heavily subsidizes heavy metals to corner the global market for political ends.

So you go toe to toe saying "if you can tax me, I'll tax you. Then we'll see who wins"

A tariff on Chinese heavy metals can sometimes makes sense in those cases.

And we subsidize corn and oil.

oil-corn 😉

Much to my annoyance

Not saying misbehavior isn't universal.

Lmao

True

Alright, so that's a fair argument to make. Tariff subsidized industries back to their actually value

I hope the EU and Trump don't end up enemies

It's a dangerous game (how do you know what is the actual value), but is sometimes necessary.

He wants free trade with them

No tarriffs, and all

go sleep Shiv! 😛

I think for actual value you'd look at all the countries not subsidizing and pick the lowest or medium.

Europe isn't going to not see Trump as an enemy. And Trump's game is to play against Europe while not necessarily actually fighting them.

also Europe can't afford to get into a fight with the US

And find out how different the price from the subsidized counties is based off percent

The US can't afford a fight with Europe.

yes it can

We totally can

Define "fight" and "afford"

Europe is bleeding money and power

Isn't the US *protecting* Europe?

You know how much money it would save us and how easy we'd win?

I take fight in a context of economic protectionism and afford as not eating nasty doemstic losses.

If you mean military conflict, sure. But that's not on the menu.

Ooooh

Sorry

tbh the only people we should be tariffing is China to bring them to heel as they've been blantly stealing our intellectual property through hacking and bribery.

Brexit is costing us millions
Putins gas/oil faucet it costing us millions, and will cost billions if he decides to shut the flow
Migrants care causing millions in damages across the EU
Migrants have caused euro-skeptic parties to come to power and start revolting
Greece Portugal Spain and Italy are all doing bankrupt and they need more funding to contain it all

Naw, just pull out of NATO, pull back our military, and just cut military fund by the NATO budge, and the lower base count.

Injecting all that money back into our own economy

NATO maybe. But NATO is a delicate act.

not to mention the lack of productivity from the eastern-Europe countries because they're far behind on technology to compete

Why do you think the EU might have folded so easily

dude EU is weak

GDP-wise the EU is about the same as the US..

yes, with twice the population

3x.

twice

750 million people

unless America suddenly lost 100 million citizens

ah wait, you're right.

Lmao

Last I checked it was 3x. The US must have grown.

I mean, if that was all sjws, I wouldn't mind

I do see the EU is in danger of breakup.

good

And the EU without the US is in a weaker overall position than the US without the EU.

this EU is a corrupted sham

But neither is going to do well without the other.

ofc they will

people think that without the European Union, we'll suddenly descend into a bloody war again

Its just gonna be "what is best for OUR country"

as opposed to "What is best for Germany"

correction

The EU is not treating all its members good. From what I hear from Vee Romania gets fucked pretty hard.

"whati s best for German Muslims"

heres what the EU does to its poor states

they get bail-outs

but the price is they don't get a saying in things

"We bailed you out, so now you play ball"

Yep. That's the story I've hear.

and when you don't, teh funding stops

Look at poland

Like the IMF

they refused to "Force" migrants to stay in Poland

cuz Migrants wanted to go to germany cuz they get more free stuff

and now Germany is demanding that Poland be fined for not holding Migrants in camps against their will

The rich nations don't want to subsidize all the poor states and the poor states don't like getting politically crushed.

And then there's the errant law that the EU won't allow (like Swiss gun laws) that's causing friction with other states.

to which poland then responded, demanding reparations for WW2 😉

Sassy.

lmao

literally "You wanna fine us 80 million per day? okay, we then demand 800 billion euros as reparations" or something

note, those numbers i pulled outa my ass i'm not sure on the exact numbers

but it was that general idea

I believe it.

but thats basically it

Greece is a slave nation right now,
They can't survive without bailouts,

So they get it, by doing exactly what Brussels wants

Add in Turkey...

It's a matchbox. But I do think it'll probably survive.

dude even turkey has a grip on EU's balls right now

cuz Erdogan is threatening to open the migrants again unless he gets more money

The EU elite seem aren't willing to let it fail and are empowered to do all sorts of nonsense to silence opposition.

They're also waking up to the couple of things that were really emboldening their opposition (turning down refugees)

Ah. Hardball. Everyone seems to want to play it now.

they realised they couldn't talk it away

Nor controll it

EU leaders are weak

EU's representative for trade relations is the dutch prime minster Mark Rutte

this guy is a tool

a history teacher, bowing to every demand everywhere

he went to talk to Erdogan about those migrants coming in

made a deal

3 billion to Turkey, and they stop the flow of mingrants from turkey

turkey got paid, didn't do jack

so he went back

negotiated anotehr 3 billion

and finally Erdogan did something

and now he's demanding more stuff

Man, geopolitics is a fascinating, messy game.

Capital A negotiating skills

this is the same guy who was sent to Trump last month to talk about the Tariffs

didn't succeed, now they sent Juncker

gonna be fun having that drunk talk to the Troll in chief

@DuShaun Manndik
Geopolitics is children fighting on a playground over who gets the most crayons.

Except the children are in suits, the fists are bombs and the crayons are the spoils of trade.

Completely fascinating once you start looking into it.

@Dr.Wol maybe might work out better to be honest...

Also those children have just discovered the word "fuck" and are using it in every sentence, even when it's not applicable, because they think it makes them cool and edgy.

Juncker is an absolute drunk,

he's drunk during half his ceremonial actions

Maybe. But slightly more than half of them were told by their parents not to swear and are trying to ban "hate speech"

he's one of those parents

he supposedly talked to Trump like 6 hours ago

or 7

Drunk during ceremony? That's kinda bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYRRlOfL3rA

I dunno. I got a weird feeling if he's that drunk it might be a gambit pileup.

Sometimes the clueless make the best diplomats. Can't outsmart someone who can't thikn.

thats so not true

clever sons of bitches

someone who FAKES being clueless

And then there's that one intriguing foreign exchange student that everyone wants to be near, but who's actually a moron who couldn't tell you east from west if east slapped him across the face while west pissed in his cheerios

"FAKES being clueless" Now that's effective.

"jokes on you, im only PRETENDING to be retarded"

thats what Trump is doing imo 😉

everyone is like "haha, what an idiot"

But he's beating everyone, is friends with NK now

HIGHLY STABLE GENIUS

I was actually thinking Merkel when I made that description, honestly.

Also appropriate.

Actually, that's kinda accurate now I thiknk about it.

Trump I see as more of the kid who always cracks jokes in class. Not particularly bright, but not particularly stupid either. Just there to have a good time and fuck with people while it lasts.

Merkel is either a monster, or a retard

Both are not good for Europe :S

Remember when Obama wire tapped Merkel. That was funny.

@DuShaun Manndik And actually seems to somehow come on top anyways.

oooh i memba

Didn't Merkel tap back?

Maybe Merkel is a Russian

I mean, the spy agencies have so many moles in each other it's hilarious.

It is

Well yeah, @pratel, everybody comes around to the class clown's side eventually. It's charisma. But more importantly, nobody wants to be the butt of his jokes.

The amazing part is that anyone is scandalized that X is "spying/meddling/wiretapping/monitoring/messing with" Y

It's so common you'd figure people would have figured out its just how it works.

Why is that amazing? They always complain

It's like a parent complaining that you did something they did.

lol. true.

Yup

its for show

fake outrage

It’s ok to spy, you see, it’s just impolite to get caught.

The outrage is real.

Whatever gets the votes

what sunless said

@Deleted User exactly.

Nothing worse than a shitty spider.

*taps everyone's phones*

its not "sorry we spied on you"
its "sorry we got caught"

^^^

The reason, say, the Germans get mad about the Americans spying on them, is that they know they're also spying on the Americans.

So if it's revealed the Americans are spying on them, that raises the possibility that they may be spying on the Americans

And they can't have that

So they deflect by being mad at America for spying

It's camouflage

Guys guys guys

ben shapiro

🤔

its the eyebrows

Ben She-ro

Shiv, go to bed, you've clearly gone mad

She’s (((hot)))

I should ask, does the European press get angry at European governments for spying on Americans?

no

our press is state-bought

Of course not, @pratel, they pretend it doesn't happen

our press is propaganda vor EU

Or they bend over backwards to explain why it's good

yes, propaganda

Okay one more

Didn’t American do a deal with the EU to help each other spy on our own citizens? I heard it was in that omnibus bill.

That just looks like Katie Cassidy

What the hell?

Who the fuck is that?

@Deleted User I hadn't heard that. But I wouldn't be surprised.

Hehehehe

I think something like that may have been in the NSA-programs during the Snowden leaks.

She's a gay boi

It's milo

Yiannapoulos

Jesus. Milo makes a hot trap, ngl

Yes

Hehe

Yes, I remembered correctly. The Cloud Act.
https://cdt.org/press/omnibus-spending-bill-fails-to-protect-privacy-of-americans/

She is a gay boi 🤔

aa qwerrrrmo

Welp https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/07/24/rick-and-morty-creator-dan-harmon-apologizes-for-fake-baby-rape-video/

i hope they dont cancel the show because of this

its pretty gud

Also that fake baby was literally asking for it

Nah, I hope they cancel the show

It's pretty obvious it's not going to get better

Also Dan Harmon said he wasn't considering it

Before all this happened

Dude has a alcoholism problem

Also is there any actual proof Alex minissan was in an incel community

OH SHIT HE PULLED IT OFF
https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1022204881095077889

This was clearly all Obama's doing

@Deleted User AFAIK no actual proof other than the sketchy FB post turned up

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@Mee6 good bot

@Deleted User he apologized and adult swim sed they wouldn't fire him

he's also a crazy liberal so yeah .... sucks

no,no

Before that

He said he was probably not gonna work on the show

Bret weinstein is gonna make political videos

i'm so looking forward to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQEqpc1Yf5o

baby barron is cute

CUTE

@Deleted User doesn't matter if he does or doesnt , he ha women writing the show now and his fans reacted negatively to it a while ago and he said fuck you to the fans

awww

HES SO CUTE I COULD EAT HIM

@Deleted User you have some weird fetishes love

eat pant

lmao

jesus
https://t.co/WRx5SsFaEG

do they not the whole "ignorance of the law" thing in europe?

`they probably should`

lmao vox is garbae

The "nobody told me rape is bad" excuse has worked before. You'd be crazy not to use it again

>4% said Vox is positive

WALL

Lol I was watching the JRE with Christina Hoff Sommers, and I was checking the comments

And there's this dude accusing Karen straughan of calling a middle eastern journalist a holocaust

Wow facebook down 25%

👀

Hopefully to never recovery

👋🏻 Facebook

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/25/tech-stocks-poised-for-bloodbath-on-thursday-with-facebook-on-track-fo.html

I'm actually very worried about this. I got a strong feeling this will be spun into a "referendum on Zuckerberg's defense of Holocaust Deniers" and used to push further censorship on the platform.

I doubt it

Facebook isn't as important as Twitter, and has even declared white male as a minority

Exactly my point.

Censorship won't be the way they will go, I think they're going to consider expanding

Zuckerberg, for all his faults has refused to remove some sources from Facebook and has been heavily criticized in the press.

And the press wants Facebook to remove these sources and persons.