but who knows how to do anything

a god

No, you could know that something is impossible

doesn't a god make it also necessary to be able to do what is necessary

The FBI with guy reading that page is a reference to the Silent of the Lambs.

OMG, no wonder that is a reference.

>.<

It all makes sense now.

That was the easy one

a god is not only omniscient, but also omnipotent

If you knew everything you'd know how to becomes omnipotent

.or you'd know that it is impossible

a god is both things

Or a time lord

if one was only able to become omniscient but not omnipotent, they are not a god

Think you would be able to kill an person who has absolute knowledge of the universe and can use their technology to heal themselves?

maybe their knowledge would only show that they can't prevent death

Would you be able to stop someone who uses their technology to create massive biblical disasters aka Omnipotent.

Why prevent death when you can transfer yourself into an immortal body?

Would you be able to hide from a civilization that technology that can see everything at once?

We can ourselves create the great flood

Or predict the future based on knowledge.

you are equivocating knowledge with power

Knowledge IS power

Knowledge always been power.

to mortals

Knowledge can makes us gods.

Didn't you watch Schoolhouse Rock?

Immortal over here @Gilgamesh

mortals still have limits

Or do they

do they

We can stufy

And find out

Knowledge

Limits that can be overcome by knowledge and understanding.

knowledge without power is merely knowledge

robo thot bods' Yeah!

now you talking

power can be gained by knowledge but it is not a guarantee

But having the knowledge to create and harness power.....

is power

Knowledge is power. If you know how your enemy will punch, you will 100% dodge it @Gilgamesh

okay so what if your knowledge found that human beings are inevitably incapable of godhood

Any race or person who obtains absolute knowledge of the universe and reality can become gods.

^

If we have ALL

ALL OF IT

Which is most likely impossible

@Gilgamesh Humans are incapable of godhood because of emotion

this is so full of assumption

That is why Knowledge is considered power.

none of you have achieved godhood and yet you presume to know what it takes

Because all gods and theories are assumptions @Gilgamesh

that is ultimately completely delusional

That is because we do not understand the universe.

^

you don't even know what it truly means

Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnipresence.....

yet you claim to know what it takes

Those three can be gained through knowledge.

I was high one time and I had it all figured out and was like' that's it' walking home. then woke up and forgot

We don't claim. We theorise @Gilgamesh

how do you know perfection can be gained simply through knowledge

I dont do shrooms anymore or much of anything

BORG

nothing was claimed

BORG

@Rouqen speak for yoursef

don't say we

Morgan?

Back me up

you haven't discussed this thoroughly with these guys

don't say we

If we gain absolute knowledge of everything, we could bend the universe and even reality to our whim Tiger.

That would make us gods.

We are Borg

XD

We would be able to make beings to our liking.

i disagree

We would be able to alter them on a whim.

If we get knowledge how to become beings of pure energy

We would be able to punish them on a whim.

my point is that knowing how things work doesn't necessitate that you'd be able to do anything

We would be gods

I feltlike I had the whole universe figured' and why being is what it is' haha' too bad

you may gain knowledge that some things are impossible from your point of view

ergo knowledge =/= power

Change the point of view then

you're saying omniscience equals omnipotence

no

@Gilgamesh We put lightning in rocks and now we can talk to people across the globe.... knowledge is power

You do knowledge is gained through understanding and execution aka science.

omniscience does not equal omnipotence

simple

admit it

You do know^

If you know everything @Gilgamesh

You can predict everything

If you have absolute knowledge, you also have the knowledge how to make it happen.

^

and you would then know that you are merely a brain and not capable of ominpotence

For now

*Sighs.*

no

you are conflating knowledge with power and that is so foolish

If you have all knowledge you dont need to talk to any other lessor beings lol

it only makes sense as mortals

What if we invent a way to become beings of pure energy

Is that God

He is unwilling to unrelequence the fact that humans can and will achieve godhood if we survive long enough.

Pure power

That does not require matter

I'm saying you're more likely to realize that knowledge is not equivocal to absolute power

Absolute knowledge=absolute power

it's the same as a scientist believing that since they know more that they actually are not as strong as a soldier

Knowledge is power, that is a undisputed fact.

please dont talk about god, it always ends up being about god' Please dont lol

no

We are talking about godhood.

you are conflating that saying that "knowledge is power" with literal power

We are talking about becoming gods

no shit

If a scientist knew every move of the soldier, he would beat his ass @Gilgamesh

And how absolute knowledge means you are technically a god.

I still vote for the BORG route

you are saying that knowing things equals being a god that can do anything

it doesnt work that way

no

Everyone you meet' you eventually bring up the god talk

every relation

Or the Anti-god talk

a scientist can be weak and fragile and know more strategy, but if a soldier is so much stronger it doesn't matter

yep

The scientist will run away to position the soldier just right

@Gilgamesh Guns

a soldier also owns guns

Nukes

Missile codes

a scientist wouldn't use nukes

why

why not?

because the soldier is attacking them 5 ft away

you fucking retards

Your stoner friend' your gf' bf whatever ' everyone brings it up' they all want to know one another's page on it

http://www.dichotomytests.com/results.html?id=0&m=-27.5&e=-67.5&i=0&h=-75&n=-75&r=20&s=-10

Scientist would see soldier coming miles away

Shoot a nuke from just the right distance @Gilgamesh

To affect the soldier

Wtf are we talking about

right, and then use it again and again and then what

Deth

then you destroy your planet

But you got your goal

you kids are so assumptive and presumptive over what knowledge means

Soldier down

it's ironic

God complex much?

This is about what it means to be a god

A god without power but with omniscience is just knowing all

but no power

Your argument is that knowledge is power

that's not true

Tjat

It's a fucking poster you saw in elementary school

How dare you

What about war becoming obsolete, when no human lives are lost' only remote machines and drones' armor and facility dome energy shields, war becomes pointless because everyone has the tech edge ??

Power is punching a tree till it falls over, Knowledge is using an axe

If a being as an iota of power and all of knowledge it can use it to destroy the universe by a chain reaction @Gilgamesh

No one has an edge if everyone has an edge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYVE14IfAZ4

With power you don't need a fucking axe

That's not what edge means

You waste calories tho

I stabbed my hand by accident with a thin scalpel blade.
Held pressure on the wound and it glued itself shut.
Why can't my body do this every time?

Knowledge would allow us to master the inner workings of the universe, thus become god.

Calories are a mortal problem

But the inner workings of the universe have rules

No more war if we gone as far as we can go' heh

We could control the molecules, the atoms, they very thing that makeslife.

It's more efficient to knowledge your way to godhood than to power your way to godhood

If punching a tree down with power is a waste of energy, then no wonder God doesn't do it himself

Look

I hate having to agree with Ix, but he's 150% right

As we get closer to the heat death, the rules will detetriorate

The point is that godhood is both power and knowledge

this argument is bullshit

jfc

Knowledge is power. -_-

no

it's not

You wrote knowledge twice

Power is power

The knowledge gives you the means to achieve power.

Imagine if Bethesda was developing actual nukes

Power and Knowledge are two different things

lmao

arguing a perceptive ? oofers

Godhood is Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnipresence..... Starting out with any of the 3 can lead to you attaining the rest

Thus Knowledge is power.

By saying knowledge is power you are saying that knowledge can be useful.

Its just like matter and energy

Without knowledge we can't make our technology.

Different

But same

If knowledge doesn't give me the ability to pop peoples' heads like a grape with the power of my mind then what good is it?

We would still be in the stonage.

Power to you is "useful"

that's it

fuck

Knowledge can be a means to power; but it is not in itself power

Semantics dispute~!!!

**You all are armchair scientist congrats!**

20 minute long semantics dispute

fuck my life

* Several people are typing *

@Eirene Omni... anything is self-contradictory though. Unsolvable paradoxes abound.

If you have an iota of power aka any piece of matter you can use knowledge to ramp that up

Example: let’s say I became aware of the affair of a wealthy businessman/politician/celebrity

Has anyone done the Jordan Peterson "God is just what you care about lol" thing yet?

I have a penis. Feminism told me it holds great power.

@Schedrevka Pretty sure that counts as an "idol" not a "God"

Fuck it, Amazonia actually explained it better than me. Knowledge is power because it gives us the means to achieve power. Without knowledge, we can't receive power. They are mutual and work hand to hand, if you have knowledge, you will gain power.

*When I die im thinking of a pizza waiting for me, I say , Don't screw yourselves*

No one MAN is meant to have all that power @Uksio

Who are you to say that Idol is not God or vice versa?

And according to laws,everything has energy @Dusty Morgan

So

You can use that to get more

@Uksio Alcoholics Anon

I have power over the wealthy and powerful individual; but it is not because I have this knowledge. I hold power due to the social ramifications of my ability to reveal this to the media. But let’s say that the powerful figure doesn’t care; he belives that this scandal will not diminish his own power

Then my knowledge has no power

It has some

Someone will react to it

@Uksio A god is still a god even without input.... an idol requires input in order to have power over anything

I know only one god: the "future self". I can pray to that one and there is a high probability he will do shit for me (as long as it is within the realm of doable)

That's Procrastination

^^^

I know no God

I know myself

And what goals I have

And work to that

Yes but is it shrek?

if I achieve my goal I get a new one

I would consider God any being that is so much more powerful or intelligent than us, that it is unfathomable gap between us

I know I'm a contrary POS that would argue with a fencepost

Ergo we are gods to cockroaches and such

kek

But we can use the dirt to be become stronger @Uksio

Aka