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2018-10-31 03:55:10 UTC

oh my god

2018-10-31 03:55:11 UTC

5g?

2018-10-31 03:55:13 UTC

fuck

2018-10-31 03:55:33 UTC

guys, in that infowars interview on the front page of the channel

2018-10-31 03:55:35 UTC

They had adopted cell phone coverage a little later, which resulted in their 1st tier cities actually having better and more modern coverage.

2018-10-31 03:55:39 UTC

he's wearing a speedo

2018-10-31 03:55:40 UTC

or is that a huge can of worms?

2018-10-31 03:55:58 UTC

For example, the coverage in Shenzhen is really good and even more modern than in some parts of America.

2018-10-31 03:56:18 UTC

In America, because they are often first adopters, it can also happen that some infrastructure takes longer to update.

2018-10-31 03:56:28 UTC

developing countries usually get better stuff

2018-10-31 03:56:35 UTC

when they actually develop it ;^)

2018-10-31 03:56:37 UTC

lol

2018-10-31 03:56:47 UTC

Appairently my personality type is ENTJ

2018-10-31 03:56:49 UTC

yeah, it's cheaper to start over than to redo

2018-10-31 03:56:56 UTC

whcih is extremely rae among my age group

2018-10-31 03:57:07 UTC

It's a bit like the effect of being second adopter. You get to skip the early hurdles.

2018-10-31 03:58:00 UTC

I remember SerpentZA having made a very good video about this. For those who don't know him, he is one of the first and longest standing English speaking YouTubers in China, originally from South Africa, a bit of a refugee.

2018-10-31 03:58:27 UTC

I'll look him up. Thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2018-10-31 03:58:43 UTC

Okay.

Stay awesome.

2018-10-31 04:01:33 UTC

I think most of the people who watch tim are people who used to be leftists

2018-10-31 04:01:44 UTC

and have been kicked out when the left turned super cult mode

2018-10-31 04:02:11 UTC

so we like hearing the perspective of someone who's gone through the same

2018-10-31 04:02:29 UTC

Tim claims to still be on the left.

2018-10-31 04:02:47 UTC

tim is losing faith :v

2018-10-31 04:02:51 UTC

By sane standards, he still is, and so are most of us.

2018-10-31 04:03:02 UTC

I don't believe Tim is on the left

2018-10-31 04:03:05 UTC

in every video i feed on his suffering

2018-10-31 04:03:27 UTC

His videos are constantly "The left is losing", "Why the right is winning" etc

2018-10-31 04:03:32 UTC

Constantly

2018-10-31 04:03:33 UTC

But, I don't like the left/right dichotomy very much anyway. I think most people would be hard pressed to define who would be center and what is left or right.

2018-10-31 04:03:58 UTC

he just want sane left that cares about the poor

2018-10-31 04:04:02 UTC

not 1/1024 indians :3

2018-10-31 04:04:06 UTC

he's losing faith as am I

2018-10-31 04:04:06 UTC

In particular, considering the origin of those terms, it referred to the general alignment during the French Revolution, in terms of who was on the side of monarchy and who was not.

2018-10-31 04:04:35 UTC

the labels are useless

2018-10-31 04:04:56 UTC

atheists conservatives ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿฟ

2018-10-31 04:05:15 UTC

I think a better distinction nowadays is a dichotomy between moralizing busy body and libertarian.

2018-10-31 04:05:27 UTC

Or even libertarian and authoritarian.

2018-10-31 04:06:06 UTC

I was wondering if conservatives are just liberals from past generations

2018-10-31 04:06:26 UTC

holding onto whatever ideals were liberal at the time

2018-10-31 04:06:38 UTC

Strictly speaking, it would make more sense to place the authoritarians on the right wing (with the monarchs of olden days and centralization of power) and us on the left, which would also align the term with liberal, in the way it was used in Britain and in its original meaning.

2018-10-31 04:06:39 UTC

they didn't get on the 72 genders hype train and got ditched ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2018-10-31 04:06:52 UTC

banding together with other people trying to conserve some sense of sanity

2018-10-31 04:07:06 UTC

Strictly speaking, we are the liberals, we are on the left - as are libertarians - and Antifa are on the right.

2018-10-31 04:07:13 UTC

the 72 genders hype train was where I jumped ship

2018-10-31 04:07:40 UTC

antifa more like fa

2018-10-31 04:07:45 UTC

I think, one of the first steps of bringing sanity back to politics would be to stop misusing these terms, because they let people claim ownership of bodies of thought that they have no claim to.

2018-10-31 04:08:02 UTC

there's no talking to these people

2018-10-31 04:08:10 UTC

labels are counterproductive as fuck

2018-10-31 04:08:18 UTC

No, they are not.

2018-10-31 04:08:22 UTC

if you mention anything that goes against their world view they bring out the bullhorns and go full NPC attack mode

2018-10-31 04:08:27 UTC

Misused labels are counterproductive.

2018-10-31 04:08:49 UTC

Shorthands and categories are one of the most fundamental ways to communicate.

2018-10-31 04:08:59 UTC

they misuse all labels

2018-10-31 04:09:05 UTC

hell they don't even know what man and woman is anymore

2018-10-31 04:09:13 UTC

And the better we communicate, the better we can solve an issue.

2018-10-31 04:10:07 UTC

I think that the precision of a solution is predicated on the precision to which the problem has been articulated.

2018-10-31 04:10:32 UTC

if you guys didn't get it the number 5 is the numerical value for the roman numeral V.

2018-10-31 04:10:46 UTC

true, but the magic of labels is to be reductive by nature

2018-10-31 04:11:14 UTC

maybe we need better labels ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2018-10-31 04:11:31 UTC

You probably have a good basis to criticize categories. If they are overextended, they cease to be useful, just as analogies taken too far lose their use.

2018-10-31 04:11:51 UTC

Part of the problem, I think (could be wrong) is that gov't can't look at individuals...they have to look at groups and make policy based on that - yes, there ARE exceptions, but the policy should be for the majority.

2018-10-31 04:12:05 UTC

"WHY DON'T YOU JUST USE LABELS PEOPLE WANT LIKE A DECENT HUMAN FUCKING BEING YOU COMPLETE PILE OF DOG SHIT" <:NPC:500042527231967262>

2018-10-31 04:12:17 UTC

*1 million twitter upvotes*

2018-10-31 04:12:23 UTC

i identify as the state of oregon <:NPC:500042527231967262>

2018-10-31 04:13:28 UTC

Take, for instance, the craziness about the gender thing.... Truly, it affects less than 3% of the population. It's not something that gov't should even be involved with.

2018-10-31 04:13:46 UTC

I IDENTIFY AS A MOTHER FUCKING ORANGUTAN

2018-10-31 04:13:50 UTC

But people nowadays are too quick to dismiss useful categories. One of the arguments why gender is supposed to be fluent or a social construct is because there are grey zones or transitions between them. But so there are transitions between red and blue.

Red and blue are categories. They categorize a section of the visible spectrum of light into a category that makes it easy to communicate. Everybody knows what you mean when you say "red" or "blue".

Yet, there are transitions and gradients between red and blue. There is purple, for example.

Does that therefor mean that red and blue do not exist?
Does it mean that the categories red and blue are useless?

2018-10-31 04:14:06 UTC

USE MY "OOH OOH" PRONOUNS YOU BIGGET <:NPC:500042527231967262>

2018-10-31 04:14:19 UTC

inb4 ian miles gets banned for hate speech

2018-10-31 04:14:55 UTC

Hey

2018-10-31 04:14:59 UTC

I am surprised Ian Miles Cheong has been on Twitter as long as he has been.

2018-10-31 04:15:05 UTC

Look at this fucking idiot

2018-10-31 04:15:11 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/507044843105812481/image0.png

2018-10-31 04:15:13 UTC

Whoโ€™s that?

2018-10-31 04:15:15 UTC

I wanna know

2018-10-31 04:15:19 UTC

Elfwick had been banned way before him, and he had always been more careful about his satire than Ian even.

2018-10-31 04:15:37 UTC

white people

2018-10-31 04:15:38 UTC

amirite

2018-10-31 04:15:49 UTC

"lass and not a cuck"

2018-10-31 04:15:51 UTC

Eh, that's silly. You already paid for it. It's good ice cream. Eat it.

2018-10-31 04:16:13 UTC

tbh that guy is probably a troll

2018-10-31 04:16:14 UTC

did he just describe a male? but the title is female

2018-10-31 04:16:16 UTC

I can appreciate the gesture, though.

2018-10-31 04:16:23 UTC

let's buy some more ice cream so we can throw it out

2018-10-31 04:16:30 UTC

this will fucking show them

2018-10-31 04:16:32 UTC

^

2018-10-31 04:16:45 UTC

That's actually how some boycotts are run nowadays.

2018-10-31 04:16:52 UTC

you might as well eat it

2018-10-31 04:16:55 UTC

@Timcast Ben and Jerryโ€™s is expensive and by golly I really like the really chocolatey and red velvet flavors so these idiots going around tossing this expensive ice cream in the trash make me sick. You sir, have rattled my chains.

2018-10-31 04:16:58 UTC

the beauty about not giving a shit is being able to buy all these amazing products within the free market and enjoying them regardless of which shit ideology brand they follow

2018-10-31 04:17:19 UTC

(pls give thumbs up to my boycott facebook photos)

2018-10-31 04:17:27 UTC

Yes, Ben & Jerry's is tasty. Also, I even still like Colbert. He is one of the least unfunny of the lefty comedians.

2018-10-31 04:17:30 UTC

I don't even like ice cream

2018-10-31 04:17:38 UTC

their ice cream is *not* worth the price

2018-10-31 04:17:51 UTC

I watched him too long. I guess I am kind of attached to Colbert. It's one of the few leftist habits I still hang on to.

2018-10-31 04:18:01 UTC

Colbert was only funny on the colbert report. At least then he attempted to understand right wing positions.

2018-10-31 04:18:04 UTC

I donโ€™t like jimmy Fallonโ€™s flavor

2018-10-31 04:18:25 UTC

Cookie dough and chocolate ice cream donโ€™t mix

2018-10-31 04:18:40 UTC

But, I avoid watching him now, because I want to keep the good memories alive. It's like a retro video game you are fond of:

You want to hold it in good memory, but you don't want to play it, because then you would see how awful it looks now.

Colbert is my Zelda on NES.

2018-10-31 04:18:56 UTC

^

2018-10-31 04:19:00 UTC

god bless memes

2018-10-31 04:19:01 UTC

Fits pretty well imo

2018-10-31 04:19:15 UTC

The memes will set us free boiz

2018-10-31 04:19:16 UTC

Itโ€™s a word

2018-10-31 04:19:26 UTC

we used to watch ironic Stephen Colbert in my civics class in hs

2018-10-31 04:19:38 UTC

>unbiased education

2018-10-31 04:19:41 UTC

I used to watch ironic stephen unironically

2018-10-31 04:19:55 UTC

now I watch unironic stephen ironically

2018-10-31 04:20:14 UTC

Do you guys remember the Asian SJW who tried to get Colbert banned?

You'd think that would have left him more opposed to PC culture.

2018-10-31 04:20:16 UTC

I think I found out I was a conservative when I expanded and saw how much these fucking idiots were acting shortly before and after the trump election

2018-10-31 04:20:26 UTC

And I havenโ€™t felt stressed about politics since then

2018-10-31 04:20:39 UTC

no it just makes him more terrified

2018-10-31 04:20:41 UTC

and cave in more

2018-10-31 04:21:00 UTC

to say what is needed to be said for group think talk so he can get his npc books for serving the npcs up their npc programming

2018-10-31 04:21:23 UTC

Wow, I found this guy on Twitter who has all kinds of awards.

Tree of Life Award by the Jewish National Fund (1983)

2018-10-31 04:21:36 UTC

I really think John Stewart is hardcore anti sjw and won't come out against it out of fear

2018-10-31 04:21:37 UTC

Muhammad Ali Entrepreneur Award (2007)

2018-10-31 04:21:55 UTC

Friends of Zion Award by The Friends of Zion Museum (2017)

2018-10-31 04:22:02 UTC

John Stewart would be a huge win for the culture war

2018-10-31 04:22:05 UTC

Ellis Island Medal of Honor in celebration of "patriotism, tolerance, brotherhood and diversity" (1986)

2018-10-31 04:22:06 UTC

@Beef Taquitos too late lol :^)

2018-10-31 04:22:10 UTC

Dang, who is this guy?

2018-10-31 04:22:26 UTC

John Stewart needs to come back and fight against the NPCs.

2018-10-31 04:22:33 UTC

A crusader for the old left in this culture war.

2018-10-31 04:22:33 UTC

Those are TONS of progressive awards. Who is this person?

2018-10-31 04:22:59 UTC

I miss the days where I could curl up on the bed and read fiction novels without having to think about political grievances.

2018-10-31 04:23:15 UTC

An ideal world, the US has a red wave in the midterms, NPCs step up their rhetoric and in 2020 there is a red tsunami. Now that would seriously create a 404 error

2018-10-31 04:23:16 UTC

Me too.

2018-10-31 04:23:31 UTC

I rather read Isaac Asimov than have to worry if civil war breaks out tomorrow.

2018-10-31 04:23:34 UTC

yeah you better be reading a fiction that puts people of color and females in positions of power you bigot

2018-10-31 04:23:55 UTC

i'm a fucking peasant from across the big pond

2018-10-31 04:24:01 UTC

i'm not giving them anything :^)

2018-10-31 04:24:05 UTC

But then again, having an actual war on my hands, like Vietnam, and being drafted - that would suck. By the way, only the "privileged" men had the draft.

2018-10-31 04:24:33 UTC

The Selective Service Act: all males up to the age of 25 have to register.

2018-10-31 04:24:38 UTC

it's our "mail dick privilege" to go sacrifice ourselves to protect these women

2018-10-31 04:24:42 UTC

SILENCE IS VIOLENCE

2018-10-31 04:24:58 UTC

Upheld in 2016 by the US Senate. How progressive. How equal fo them.

2018-10-31 04:25:02 UTC

silencing people is actually violence <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-10-31 04:25:13 UTC

Feminism is one gigantic hypocrisy. I cringe whenever Tim says he's a feminist.

2018-10-31 04:25:13 UTC

apparently not anymore

2018-10-31 04:25:17 UTC

I downloader the neon demon soundtrack and my lock screen is stuck as this now lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/507047385143181313/Screenshot_20181031-083455.png

2018-10-31 04:25:32 UTC

Heh.

2018-10-31 04:25:40 UTC

jews

2018-10-31 04:25:41 UTC

Is that Android?

2018-10-31 04:25:45 UTC

Or iOS?

2018-10-31 04:25:47 UTC

as far as the eye can see

2018-10-31 04:25:50 UTC

jews everywhere

2018-10-31 04:25:54 UTC

feminism is yet another of those labels that covers pretty decent chicks and angsty angry cunts ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2018-10-31 04:26:08 UTC

not really

2018-10-31 04:26:09 UTC

I don't want it to refer to people, but ideas.

2018-10-31 04:26:23 UTC

Feminist is a person, feminism is an idea.

2018-10-31 04:26:24 UTC

most decent chicks no longer adopt the term feminist because of how toxic it's gotten

2018-10-31 04:26:47 UTC

Yes,but they are feminists for all intents and purposes.

2018-10-31 04:26:54 UTC

Nah, there are differences between feminism and 3rd wave. You just look for the women running in the opposite direction

2018-10-31 04:26:55 UTC

hello

2018-10-31 04:26:58 UTC

most people are feminists

2018-10-31 04:26:59 UTC

admitting what the feminists have turned into is a tough pill to swallow no matter how relaxed your throat is

2018-10-31 04:27:03 UTC

no one really actually hates women

2018-10-31 04:27:20 UTC

except maybe some incels somewhere with an ar15 in their school lunch box

2018-10-31 04:27:57 UTC

# not all incels

2018-10-31 04:28:02 UTC

I don't think even the first wave of feminism was about equality.

What did they campaign for?

Voting rights.

What did men have to do to vote? Give their life in the defense of their country.

It was never, ever about equality.

2018-10-31 04:28:12 UTC

Men died for the vote - women cried for the vote.

2018-10-31 04:28:21 UTC
2018-10-31 04:28:34 UTC

*Some,* I imagine are good people

2018-10-31 04:28:37 UTC

I think cried is an understatement

2018-10-31 04:28:39 UTC

i see you're currently talking about the usual topic huh

2018-10-31 04:28:50 UTC

it's the most pressing topic at hand

2018-10-31 04:28:51 UTC

Then came the bra burning in 2nd wave @Undead Mockingbird

2018-10-31 04:28:53 UTC

that's putting it too lightly.

2018-10-31 04:28:55 UTC

Feminism, no matter what wave, was never about equality - from the Suffragets, throughout the White Feather Movement, to modern day feminism. It was never, ever about equality.

2018-10-31 04:29:11 UTC

This is why I will always, always, always oppose feminism, in all its forms.

2018-10-31 04:29:31 UTC

There are some feminists I can actually agree and respect

2018-10-31 04:29:35 UTC

I don't oppose equal opportunity for women.

2018-10-31 04:29:38 UTC

Like Susan B anthony

2018-10-31 04:29:53 UTC

and Christine Paglia

2018-10-31 04:30:05 UTC

Have you witnessed how some women get the shrill voice when they don't get what they want? *that is not a fun thing to be around even for a minute*

2018-10-31 04:30:09 UTC

Anyone who still thinks that first wave feminism was good should read this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Feminist-Lie-Never-About-Equality-ebook/dp/B071SG95CN

2018-10-31 04:30:15 UTC

Not the movement itself though

2018-10-31 04:30:20 UTC

"CHristine blazy ford is a nationaL HerO" <:NPC:500042527231967262>

2018-10-31 04:30:30 UTC

service guarantees citizenship :^)

2018-10-31 04:30:56 UTC

christine paglia wanted to be able to do things men did

2018-10-31 04:30:59 UTC

they want equal rights not equal responsibility

2018-10-31 04:30:59 UTC

I don't think anyone thinks first wave was good. They were basically terrorists in dresses

2018-10-31 04:31:05 UTC

on the same terms

2018-10-31 04:31:11 UTC

not with special consideration

2018-10-31 04:31:14 UTC

I don't mind women having equal rights.

2018-10-31 04:31:36 UTC

Im totally fine with that

2018-10-31 04:31:44 UTC

Equal rights is not equal when your responsibilities are not equal.

2018-10-31 04:31:49 UTC

yes

2018-10-31 04:31:50 UTC

But I do think there were some good arguments to come out of second wave. I'm fully behind equality

2018-10-31 04:31:54 UTC

I don't mind.

2018-10-31 04:31:59 UTC

but thats where paglia is different

2018-10-31 04:32:02 UTC

We lot crippled people vote

2018-10-31 04:32:03 UTC

Two people who get $10 per hour are not equal when one works half as much.

2018-10-31 04:32:06 UTC

why not let women vote

2018-10-31 04:32:07 UTC

That is not equality.

2018-10-31 04:32:20 UTC

she wanted the right to take on that responsability

2018-10-31 04:32:29 UTC

not like today

2018-10-31 04:32:34 UTC

We let welfare recipients vote

2018-10-31 04:32:42 UTC

why not women

2018-10-31 04:32:50 UTC

where its all about the pandering and nothing about the responsabilities

2018-10-31 04:33:01 UTC

hmm

2018-10-31 04:33:08 UTC

when things go wrong just blame men -feminsits 2018

2018-10-31 04:33:10 UTC

equal rights are equal regardless of responsibility.

2018-10-31 04:33:15 UTC

That is also why I absolutely loathe the usage of "equality" when describing communism:

If you give people who are not equal the same rewards, you are rewarding the one who worked least most.

That is not equality and it is not fairness.

2018-10-31 04:33:25 UTC

Do rich people get more rights because they adopt more responsibility? No.

2018-10-31 04:33:37 UTC

but it is in outcome

2018-10-31 04:33:42 UTC

As ex-military, I served on the front line with good women who could put as much in as the guys, in fact more in some cases

2018-10-31 04:33:45 UTC

Do poor people get less rights because they can't even be responsible for themselves? No.

2018-10-31 04:33:56 UTC

No

2018-10-31 04:34:03 UTC

Yes. Pay all your employees $20/h regardless of how much they work, and see how well morality will fare.

2018-10-31 04:34:30 UTC

Equal rights are ***equal*** regardless of individual competence or responsibility.

2018-10-31 04:34:50 UTC

I would rather stay home raising the kids than work at a job like that

2018-10-31 04:35:06 UTC

raising kids doesn't pay much tho

2018-10-31 04:35:26 UTC

They can only "get away with murder" because they can afford better lawyers. Affording something is not the same as having a right to something. The poor have just as much of a right to hire the same lawyers.

2018-10-31 04:35:45 UTC

I would rather not be able to vote than take a bullet to the head.

2018-10-31 04:35:51 UTC

*satisfaction*

2018-10-31 04:35:53 UTC

Sorry, but I just don't think that's oppression.

2018-10-31 04:35:55 UTC

Access to something is not a right jesus christ.

2018-10-31 04:36:09 UTC

Accessing something and having rights to something are different.

2018-10-31 04:36:22 UTC

Everyone has the same rights to purchase the same thing.

2018-10-31 04:36:33 UTC

Wait, voting is a right. Let's not nitpick terms into uselessness.

2018-10-31 04:37:02 UTC

what?

2018-10-31 04:37:06 UTC

Now different people have different access to being able to purchase those things. That doesn't mean they have "less rights."

2018-10-31 04:37:20 UTC

Putting words into someone's mouth is both intellectually dishonest and a lazy way to debate.

2018-10-31 04:37:23 UTC

I am going to bow out if we are getting lost in discussing the most basic terms again.

2018-10-31 04:37:26 UTC

Do better @Beef Taquitos

2018-10-31 04:37:56 UTC

Have you read anything I said.

2018-10-31 04:38:10 UTC

I said having access to something within the free market is not the same thing as having a right to do something.

2018-10-31 04:38:21 UTC

Voting doesn't exist within the free market.

2018-10-31 04:38:26 UTC

Lawyers do.

2018-10-31 04:38:42 UTC

Rich people affording better lawyers is not a "superior right."

2018-10-31 04:39:20 UTC

It's like talking to a wall.

2018-10-31 04:39:24 UTC

Do you lack basic comprehension?

2018-10-31 04:39:53 UTC

am i witnessing an NPC battle

2018-10-31 04:40:00 UTC

Taquitos . . . why are you labeling voting like having access?

2018-10-31 04:40:52 UTC

to me, voting was explained as you owning your vote

2018-10-31 04:41:22 UTC

```diff
+a wild npc has appeared.
-data input not compatible with programing
-unable to comprehend inputted responses

-Engage target```

2018-10-31 04:41:24 UTC

i'm not sure how it can be seen as somehow 'borrowing' a vote

2018-10-31 04:41:50 UTC

@Beef Taquitos I think the point he is making is like - You have the "right" to healthcare but the level of care and access is different for each person and not a "right"

2018-10-31 04:42:05 UTC

It's equal rights however it's not equal responsibility.

2018-10-31 04:42:30 UTC

yeah sorry my words can't reach your programming

2018-10-31 04:42:31 UTC

god forbid

2018-10-31 04:42:32 UTC

Voting requirements were trucated to allow women as it previously required signing up for the draft. The problem here, is that women should have the right to vote, but I also don't think the requirements should have been lowered. Not helpful for a good decision

2018-10-31 04:42:44 UTC

>>>
If men have to sign up for selective service to be allowed to vote and women don't, that isn't equal rights. End of story.
<<<

2018-10-31 04:42:57 UTC

100% agree.

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