Now you're conflating specific legalese with rights.

you shouldn't even jump up and down near that vase.

you shouldn't blow on the vase in hopes to knock it off

Whether you express it as rights or intentions doesn't really matter much at the end of the day.

The protection belongs to the vase, not the one that *really* wants to break the vase.

I get his point but pratel needs to iterate imo

But not gonna force you to.

I'm approaching it in the manner that someone who seeks loopholes would, and that is the word of law.

I'm NOT a lawyer, nor am I in a position to be doing this sort of stuff.

I'm just offering my contribution.

I've got my own business to build.

Does the process of protecting the individual involve restricting the individual in any aspect?

@SantaSoc Since when did organizations have free speech rights? There's plenty of precedent that large companies that provide certain services provide it to everyone unless there is an economic reason not to or a specific pragmatic reason the company can't.

Yes, if you twist "the individual" enough.

I think we've forgotten how a bill of rights works.

Not really

We keep jumping from point to point

Whatever Rye. What would you propose doing at a pragmatic level.

Regulating something pragmatically is subjective as well lol. Give us boundaries

Something like common carrier restrictions.

If you are involved in the infrastructure of the internet and are sufficiently large to not be replaced, you have to serve all customers.

You're not allowed to just censor people.

A designation of infrastructure would be useful.

Have to"

Really, that's what it all comes down to.

Very large social media, ISPs and hosting providers.

Very large being a key word here.

Services like paypal, stripe, server farms, domain registrants, are all vital for operation.

A small platform of a couple 100 isn't worth putting effort into tracking.

So the right of the business owner to not serve individuals doesnt come to play.

Paypal and Stripe should have been recognized as a financial institution long ago.

They're generally not allowed to discriminate already.

That's the thing, Socrates, they're utilizing loopholes.

Like, most of this "no business with gun makers" is already illegal.

I wish we were in voice chat i cant type fast lol

I don't like voice chat. Too mangled. Also hard to hear people and it always felt like it could be exploited.

I think anything that handles money or important services to the upkeep of our government is necessary for regulation.

Got some Long John Silver Fish and Shimp Popcorn!

YUM

*steals*

I don't have a Long John Silvers for 70 miles.

THIEF!

(just doxxed himself)

Whats mine was never yours

Ain't that most SJW's way of thinking?

No

Its a joke

Yeah, I generally lean against regulation, but when it comes to some industries, like the civil discourse or the ability to destroy entire industries via finance...You have to recognize when you're handing power to the oligarchy.

I know.. I was joking too.

Dammit^

Okay, for one thing

People can dox me all they want, I have no job to get fired from and I own a gun... so if they show up at my house, they get a bullet in the chest. >.>

If a company takes government subsidy

Incoming army

Said company should be bound by the bill of rights.

I am on SSI.

I’m reading about the Roman taxing of the aqueduct and its uses. So, it seems like private use was paid for but public use was tax-free. Maybe, reliance on something that could be seen as a necessity shouldn’t be taxed?

Anyone here in New Mexico?

@RyeNorth These days, that's basically all the big ones one way or another.

There’s some okies here they’re close enough

Exactly, though.

@R9b1t some things need regulation as they handle our money, such as paypal.

beep beep

I was talking about for the Senate race

^_^

Im a shee0

Huh

Dont ping me again **thot**

Bet

I want to protect this SHEEP!

@R9b1t

I will kill anyone who lewds this sheep!

Thats NSFW PLIS BAN

I really hope Gary Johnson becomes a senator

I really hope Gary Johnson becomes irrelevant.

I hope senators do their jobs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXo3IPwDtIY

Republicans and Democrats just tow the party line

🤔

Feather, do you look at pictures of the Earth and say 'I don't see any borders'?

Gary Johnson does.

I look down there and I see the Rio Grande and the Sabine.

Have evidence?

Someone said I am retarded because I am deaf... they said deaf people are not intelligent. Someone on the far left.

:\

I think associations with parties are divisive, therefore people think they need to be said way.

@ExceptionalFeather https://www.lp.org/platform/ Excerpt
```3.4 Free Trade and Migration

We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders.```

@RyeNorth do you happen to watch freedom toons?

http://fortune.com/2018/06/23/europe-migrants-eu-immigrants/

I jerk off too my good man

@ExceptionalFeather

Where is that quote from?

He did an interview with Playboy. Because nobody bigger than that takes him seriously.

I'm gonna give Gary the benefit of the doubt

And assuming he's talking about the distant future where we have more figured out

Shut up Gary you’ve never had to struggle

@Dusty Morgan similar thing to the Dali Lama issue. I find migration an economic issue and a humanitarian issue.

I think economic migrants should go back home.

They are not legitimate asylum claims.

I am willing to put up with only asylum seekers who are in immediate danger or threat.

How did immigrants from over sees join the migrant caravan, can someone clear that up?

Oh hell no... they are going to abuse that family deal.

Right?

They already proved they abuse the Chain Migration.

```He did an interview with Playboy. ```
AAPAPAPAPAPAPPA

HOLD ON

**Rye.**

Shut your face on this one.

If their family wants to come, they go through the SAME process aka legal channel.

"Scrib why would you tell me to shut my face"

I will tell ya fuckin why in a second

Well they were flown over to South America.

Gary Oldman did an interview for Playboy

Then they linked up to the caravan.

Where he called Nancy Pelosi a cunt.

You gonna talk shit on Playboy's articles?!

YOU PEESA GAWBAGE

You should bring it up in your interview on Pornhub.

RYE.

**YOU SHUT YOUR FACE**

SHUT IT.

PLAYBOY'S ARTICLES ARE STELLAR.

But he didn't call her a cunt.

He specifically said he's not allowed to call her a cunt.

🙄

Rye.

Especially not a fucking useless cunt.

I want to stick a pie onto your face.

And duct tape it around your head.

This whole BEEP BEEP is a fanfic of the guy in the cell and the FBI agent is listening to him. >.>

He was speaking in hypotheticals.

I want to shower lego pieces throughout your hallways.

To say he called her a fucking useless cunt is inaccurate

He was saying he can't call her a fucking useless cunt no matter how much he wants to.

Nancy Pelosi is not useless... she is great at making Republicans look good.

If he DID call her a fucking useless cunt, he'd have an issue on his hands, as he outlines.

Rye, you tit.

I'm of the belief that once you dehumanize, once you name call, you're admitting you have no argument

Given context I don't think he would fight for open borders, but I think him being soft on border security is a problem, though he does advocate for some border security.

I'm of the belief that if that's all you have, you have no argument.

I'm right, and I call names all the time.

Uh, no.

It probably makes it harder to side with me.

I was with you on the first half of that.

But.. Oh well.

Your problem, Scrib, is that your argument boils down to 'I'm right'.

Well, I am right.

"I need more" Too bad.

Show your damn work.

Look into it at your leisure.

I am generally against Dehumanizing and Demonizing people.

DID YOU SERIOUSLY JUST USE THE SJW LINE

But I will call people out on their bullcrap.

Like with the Migrant Caravan.

I refer to my opponents "sir" and "ma'am". Then again, I probably survived because I called my rapists "sir" and they seemed to like it. When you're prostituting yourself for your life, you have to work the customer. 😕

JUST GOOGLE IT

o: ...?

Anyway, the point is, civility costs nothing

Economic Migrants isn't a legitimate Asylum claim.

CALM DOWN

And it can gain a lot

Look, it's that whole "NAME ONE" when you've got 100.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN-YDnJgDDo

you went there.

It isn't just a matter of picking one at random at that point.

Rye shut up, everyone says google it.

Cenk is not special.

Being respectful gets you far 10th. You can also end up turning your enemies into allies that way.

Anyway

You have 100 examples, a person asks you for 1.

Being resoectful gets you kicked in the face

I agree that the republican candidate is stronger there but Johnson is more likely to give us some education change and that is one of my main issues. Part of the Senators is making sure there is leadership there garnering support for different issues.

Respectful

No... being rude does.

You realize you're in a situation where you have to pick the strongest example of 100

Because you have no idea how they don't know what you know.

You're being antagonized and they're looking for any reason to dismiss it.

Being rude is subjective

Scrib

I don't play ball with that anymore.

are you saying it's not your job to educate me?

If we live in a world where being respectful gets you kicked in the face then what kind of world are we fostering?

Is that really the world we want to nurture?

Hey Rye are you saying you're Cathy Newman?

Who here has watched Koe No Katachi: A Silent Voice?

Ya fuckwad

*raises hand*

Actually, I read the manga

That anime... I cried so many tears. T_T

The manga is good, too

I am hard of hearing and tone deaf, so I relate to her so much.

God you weebazoids.

@DrYuriMom kinda want to point out we are in a very delicate transformative age where we foster individuality before the common petson.

Person*

I had many struggles like she did in the anime movie.

Explain, @SantaSoc

I mean... damn it hit close to home for me.

Foster individuality? Now of all times? Are you crazy?

When identity politics is going bananas?

The exact opposite of individuality?

GEEZ.

And yes, @Scribblehatch , I am a weeb. Your point? :p

EWWWWWWWWWWWW SHE ADMITTED IT EWWWW >A<

🗞

@DrYuriMom What part of the movie or manga hit you the hardest?

being an individual has become a group effort scribble

I think I just got spanked with a newspaper?

kinky

Mine was when she was crying before his mother.... begging for forgiveness, but yet she had a hard time speaking because of her disability.

found a reddit dumbass who tried to say that costume stores weren't a thing
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/9s0gyr/full_costume_its_the_first_time_ive_thought/e8l66rf/?utm_source=reddit-android

All she could say was Sorry....

Sowwwy!

What're we talking about?

<:VeRiFiEd:463064374236413962>

Man, of anyone you could cosplay as

Why that character.

I hated her

Her break down in tears.... grief and sorrow, saddness and shame.

@SantaSoc , so you mean everyone is trying to be the "individual" the media tells them to be?

I'll agree that is the case

Believing she is a burden.

She spent half the movie looking smug that she could press a button that could magically hurt Thor

I see it with youth all the time

Shokou!

"I am Thor, a being that shouldn't be able to be hurt by a small device, and yet somehow.."

Personally I am just talking about how I really like the idea of a senator Gary Johnson

I'm fine with Senator {insert name here} if that's the will of that state

That Senator SUCKS.

**BOOOOOOO**

Boo Wendy

Boooooo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de3WWGCK4N0

@DrYuriMom in my particular opinion , in order for people to be more accepting of themselves we have fostered a censorship age where we toe lines unecessarily based upon individual feelings. This had blown up proportionally to the federal level whereas people now call to action for things that aren't extremely problematic for the group as a whole. We have pushed conforming for the need of survival away because of the lack thereof of that need. In that pushing we have destried various individuals and groups that have built livelihoods around that idea.

Destroyed*

Gary Johnson is highly passionate about some of my most important issues, he would stir dialogue that often gets ignored in D.C. that is why I like him.

Watch him on Joe Rogan.

He's good there.

Not so great during the actual... election

Is that a problem with the person or his skills

For presidential election he is just barely the best of 3 for me, I like him much more as a senator.

He’s busy jerking off over his trucks to care about the whole of the US

Lol

If Trump doesn't run again, I hope Ben Carson does...

...

Ro is a dullard.