yeah

well, more reggaeton

_vomits a little_

Anyway. Fairness claims without a legal basis are iffy.

I genuinely don't know why people were talking about Romans and Settlers and shit when there are actual provable 20th century abuses

Especially if they are used for some kind of reparation.

They were part of the law m8, they were government institutions

Then make a legal claim.

Well, the debt is specifically owed by the ancestors to the franchise at the time

and more specifically those who used that franchise to support the legislation

the debt is to be repaid!

in BLOOD

Well that's the thing

I don't have any blood left.

That went to my lawyer.

THE ANCESTORS

Where are my reparations?

you guys suck

Sorry.

except Beemann

When I was a little kid, my mother told me not to stare into the sun.

I'm trying to follow the logic, but what sounds fair is not always fair.

That's because I'm not comparing the 1980s to the 1780s and earlier lol

I am not just shitting on the idea.

So once when I was six, I did.

They do make legal claims, for the record

Then I support them in that.

I can't just appeal to fairness, either.

@Undead Mockingbird The thing is, the problem is that it is an ongoing treadmill of new claims. By enumerating the recorded debts, and tabulating them coldly, we have a chance to avoid this perpetual treadmill.

I've watched the Cornwallis statue be vandalized over and over again until it was removed, granted it's not even my history but if it were (and it is), I would hate to watch this happen Canada is a great place to live ffs, ... You coddle a people for too long you take away their incentives and their resiliency.

If it seems unfair, then they will continue to receive settlements for debts that are not enumerated.

I think that's pretty unfair. White people seem to be the only ones who cannot demand fairness.

I think the day of the rake needs to come sooner than later

That's why this collectivism is pretty nasty, IMHO.

Clean up those maple leaves

Do you know who Lindsay Shepard is @xorgy

It sounds fair, but it's pretty mean towards individuals.

>vandalizing the person who saved your nation

@Undead Mockingbird Well, there are _individual_ debts.

wtf is up with you brits and hating yourselves?

@Coochie coo sure, to some extent

If people want to talk about fairness, they should show how they have been personally injured.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8AJytIpCq4

@Undead Mockingbird they regularly do

Land acknowledgements are not the same issue

Good. Then they have a legal basis, or should have one, IMHO.

@Coochie coo yeah, I also reject those

@Coochie coo we won the land

That was the qualifier I predicated all above statements on.

ok so we agree here

But they still do have land, and they should be able to purchase new land like any other nation.

what would you think would be best to remedy this then?

I think that _that_ land should be sovereign

fire and fury!

Tbh reserves should convert to private ownership, rather than tribal ownership

and the people on it should be recognized but differentiated, no different from any other international treaty.

Also I dont think making them sovereign will actually fix the problem

The Cheifs own people are the ones who are getting fucked the most

^

some bands are run well, a lot aren't

If they are accountable to _themselves_, then things will sort themselves out.

yeeeeeeah

Many chiefs would never allow this to happen either

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lol if shit goes downhill theyll jsut resort to blaming the white man

they get too much dollar

currently we impose a dysfunctional form of government on these bands

@Coochie coo just say no, lol

The money goes to individuals

as a stipend

The thing is, if these bands ultimately want to convert to common law, private land claims actually become pretty easy to make.

yes, that is one of a few things I agreed with Harper, to make negotiations, money, etc... more transparent -- but of course that was pushed out as the white mans way of running things

if they don't then it should be seen as their own political failure

just as it is seen with any other nation

The only thing that peeves me are situations in which people in first world nations, especially having been brought here from 3rd world nations, pretend to be appealing to fairness when they want some form of compensation for historic ills.

@Undead Mockingbird Well, if it's concrete, it is payable and closable, if it is ambiguous, that is where you run into problems.

The net benefit they have received, by comparison to people in most parts of Africa, are so insurmountable as to make any such claims ridiculous.

If it is conceivably possible to continue fabricating debts from records, then sure, you're fucked.

If they have a personal, legal claim - fine. Let's get this over with and settle it.

There are limitations on everything in the common law, and there should be limitations just the same in these claims.

You can gain title to other people's land by inhabiting it in an obvious and overt way

The same is clearly true at the scale of countries.

If the Romans hadn't sorta just left England, it'd still be theirs.

@Undead Mockingbird what about a personal not-strictly-legal claim?

@xorgy I enjoyed this discussion, thank you, I'll have to come back to it however 😦 I'm gunna get fired LOL -- should have never put this on my work computer 😂 💋 sorry for the bad grammar btw

LoL

have a nice day dude

<--- Dudette

😉

tte

😮

haha

man, that's a rough name to give yourself

Tim pool cost another wamxn a jerb!!

typical Tim

irresistible Timmy 😇

Tom Piil

Pills here.

I am approaching peak caffeination levels.

I too am reaching peak caffeination

This is going to be a good day.

https://giphy.com/gifs/coffee-morning-3nbxypT20Ulmo

@xorgy https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/a21987441/bde-cavernous-pussy-energy/

Our world is going cray

Amazing how they can get it backwards that badly.

there's an emoji for almost everything, except cringing

Can you guys help me sponsor a Unicode addition of a cringe emoji?

https://giphy.com/gifs/cringe-j4Yzy0PwXSnok

haha

Do most women cringe when they read women's magazines?

I cringe a lot when I read men's health.

I do

😬 << U+1F62C GRIMACING FACE is not quite enough.

I love the word cunt too

hahah

and I'm not even British 😉

If the plebs like it, it tends to be cringe AF.

The only refined humor is that of the Internet aristocracy.

@xorgy, “hadn’t sorta just left England”?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_Roman_rule_in_Britain

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Saw a women's magazine here that claimed KimYe was breaking up.

*sips tea*

on like ???? no evidence at all

Pick the cringiest person on the street, hand them a bunch of cash, and you have the Kardashians.

Why do people watch that?

@JOE Vandeleur seems like leaving to me

@JOE Vandeleur their grasp was so weak that they left after mostly just being asked to leave

AD 42

Londinium

Hadrian's Wall

They were all black - according to the BBC.

BBC =

Big Black Cocks

Oi! 've you got a licence for that Big Black Cock?

BBC = British Brainwashing Corporation

I hate state funded media.

@xorgy, they left because they were struggling to hold Italy.

Deutsche Well used to be decent.

@Undead Mockingbird it's not _quite_ state-funded.

Even NPR wasn't as cancer as it's now.

@Undead Mockingbird which is how it holds on.

the CBC is exactly the cancer you are concerned about.

Ah. I see. It is handed off to some kind of middle man who wipes his rear with it once, and then it becomes private equity.

😮

They regularly misrepresent the political opponents of the prime minister.

(or sometimes the opponents of the premiere of Ontario)

CBC is so much cancer.

Cancer Broadcasting Corporation

it is absolute ass cancer

and whether you enjoy it or not, you must pay for it

There are few worse, but Canadaland is one.

Jess Brown is an absolute POS.

The upshot is that you don't have people going around searching your home for a TV in order to determine if you pay the license

Wasn't Jian Ghomeshi working for the CBC?

yeah, he was working for them

ye

The public really threw that guy under the bus

I was kinda into his kinky stories

Then he got MeToo'd and on his new show he still shills all the social justice cancer.

Some guys are so blue pilled, they shit smurfs.

I mean, maybe he might potentially have been an awkward or aggressive person in bed, but that does not a rape make.

It was really quite scandalous, the way that trial was conducted.

From the court documents it was the women he dated who were creepy AF. One of them started their date by doing yoga in his living room.

He asked her to leave.

HAHAHA

And because she was so embarrassed, she had to turn it into a rape.

omg, I love Jian Ghomeshi now

Nah, that guy is a soy boy.

Well, still

telling a girl to fuck off because she's doing yoga in your living room is a pretty cool play.

Then they colluded to make up shit in court and were talking how they are going to sit there with a "shit eating grin".

Soy boy or no.

That last part was my favorite quote.

They also wanted to "see him get fat".

Like uhh

The trayvon martin guy

fug yoga girls even make me cringe

The guy who was white to his critics, and latino to his supporters.

@Coochie coo Idunno, I like what it does to the booty.

but that's no excuse to start doing it in randos' living rooms.

He was a white latino, duh.

on _their_ time

George Zimmerman.

You can get a better booty by lifting weights -- unless you like what yoga pants do to a booty 😉 very different

Squats are max booty

but there's a limit

Tight yoga pants are cringe.

People look like stuffed sausages in them.

Well, it's sometimes a little hot

mmmm love me a nice fat camel toe

And then they are like "UH DO NOT LOOK AT MY ASS YOU PERV!"

but when people do it to cover up for their lack of investment in their body... it is cringeworthy.

It's all there is! How can I not look at it? It's oozing out of your clothing.

lol

Just look at their asses anyway

don't be a pussy

cavernous pussy

well, except maybe at work

If a guy would dress like that, nobody would have an issue making fun of it.

I was able to stare at asses all I wanted at work though I guess.

I don't want to see your belly flopping out from underneath you extra tight workout top.

And maybe pick out some of the lint that has been collecting in your hairy belly button for the last month.

As much as some people want to simultaneously preserve/retain and devour their cake, it is still not illegal to look at a girl's bum in Ontario

Well, at least unless you do it in a "menacing" fashion

(i.e. you're too ugly to look horny in public)

😮

Yeah, I don't know. It's all cringe academy to me.

just look at a bum

just look at a bum

the simple pleasures of life.

🤔

I don't do relationships anymore.

I stay away from people who want to pull off a show.

The perfect time to shamelessly stare at a bum is when you are not doing relationships.

No interest in creeping. Internet has better asses anyway.

Idunno, I like it better _in the flesh_.

You shoiuld become a surgeon then.

🎶 _like a surgeon; touched for the very first time_ 🎶

You are going to see all kinds of flesh in intimate details you'd never thought possible.

I can't remember which one is the Weird Al version at this point.

I think I probably have the stomach for surgery, I just don't think I have the patience for medical school.

Probably the one with the surgeon and her staff dancing to rap music during the operation.

Oh, wait - no that was reality.

I love myself some affirmative action and gender quotas:

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/05/25/dancing-doctor-pkg-hartung.hln

oh my

That does seem like... malpractice.

More like lolpractice.

ohohohhohohohohoh

https://www.abacusnews.com/digital-life/why-xiaomis-fitness-tracker-detecting-heartbeat-roll-toilet-paper/article/2167498

Hahaha

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Wamen

So are we going to ...
#boycottGoogke
#boycottFacebook
#boycottOracle
(Edit to fix spelling)

None of those companies are particularly good and probably should be boycotted.

if women get payed less for the EXACT same work, no u.s. capitalist company would ever hire a man again

XD yeah they just mean earn the same amount in the same job

not mentioning that they on average work less hours

like i bet even if women out earned men at some point in the near future theyd still be running with these stupid points

these companies arent paying women enough! we know because the women said so!
Time for all femenists to stop using that company
#soycott

Women are less likely to ask for a raise, there is a small bit of "truth" to the wage gap, but sexism isn't the cause.

As an Asian, I hate how soy is being politicized. That shit is a big part of our diet.

That why the best traps are in asia

There should be more classes about assertiveness offered to women

Or men too

Anyone who needs it

you cant train assertiveness

just gotta learn to do stuff

you can train insurgents, tho