the free market tends towards monopolies and cartels
and in the modern era, advertising is more efficient than innovation, especially for pharma

It is not a simple problem.

Heh. I like that you bring in Edison. 😛

Kind of a scumbag.

Well, some things should never be left to free market

Like Firefighting

Ancient Athens and USA in 1800 tried that

Firefighter mafias were having fights in the streets

I can kind of see your point there.

anything that has high infrastructure costs imo

competition is nigh-impossible with broadband

might wanna take a look into westinghouse history

Texas has a brilliant solution to the electrical grid and private industry.

Some things need state to function properly and/or not to be abused

They broke the Electrical Supply system into three separate industries.

I do agree that the state should be as minimal as it can get though

Production, Transmission, and Delivery.

Small govt is my Jive

rye we got that over here

Production company sells the power. Transmission maintains the insfrastructure, Delivery sells the electricity to the customer.

electricity itself has never been cheaper.
Yet the final product price that you pay for, has never been more expensive.

Production creates the power rather

sounds like a good way to pay 3 times for a single service

It's a LOT cheaper under that system than it is in the part of the state I live in

which is 100% government fault since theyre the ones that are adding +70% of the price in taxes

where we've got one company, take it or everything in your fridge rots.

welcome to my country rye

That is literally the situation

plenty of competition tho

One of the things is, you can actually CHOOSE to go with a 'green energy' company

that only buys from Wind Farms

but they all cost tons of money due to the phonebook of taxes added

Or you can chose to not care about the environment and go cheap if you like.

lol ur describing the situation here 😄

because those green energy companies pay a fuckton for those solar farms

and wind farms

And yeah, Taxes and regulations are largely responsible for the high costs of a lot of things

im not from texas

Especially pharmaceuticals and energy.

I know.

But i didnt know texas was like this as well

A large portion of it is.

Certain parts rebelled against it because they were afraid of the new-fangled 'Smart Meters'.

They'd rather pay a guy a $50 connection fee.

Tbh i would too

I got "smart meters" on my heaters

I live smaller then before

better isolated then before

And i have never in my life paid more for heating then now

does electricity even need to be taxed?

It is here

I mean...

but why, what's the reasoning behind it?

And its not even a light tax, its a ridiculous tax

It depends on what you think the government should be doing, Shin.

If you think the government should be active in a caretaker role for people

then the taxes are necessary.

And, in fact, more taxes would be needed to strengthen that role.

if the government should be an active caretaker, it would be providing electricity in the first place, not taxing the businesses that provide it

If you believe government shouldn't be given decisive power over wellbeing as I do, you start to really see where cuts could be made.

adding 70% to the price, without actually helping to provide the service, seems bizarre

I pay regular taxes for electricity 21%, then another tax on distribution and something for social security shit, then a green energy tax.
And on top of that an illegal extra tax (100€ a year) that will be abolished next year i believe, because its an illegal doubletax.
But forget about seeing your money back oh no thats not how government rolls here.

Presumably, the tax is a fee for the public property used in the process.

which ends in an electric bill that is +70% tax

and 30% electric usage cost + distributing/maintenance costs.

Really little difference between reality and an ideological AnCap paradise.

green energy tax? <:thonkraka:430185885720510475>

except in Acapistan there is no public property.

it is bizarre

Reasoning is that it would incentivize ppl to use less electricity

lol

Be realistic.

That was never the goal.

problem is that the poor of society got serious financial problems now

That's just the excuse that was given.

The only feasible solutions to energy seem to be Nuclear and hydroelectricity

ofc not its all about milking everyone dry to fund that goddamn bureaucracy

People who levy taxes have this nasty habit of telling you 'why' you need the tax on it.

Hey y'all I'm new so I just wanna introduce myself, not tryna interrupt or anything, but what exactly are we talking about?

or telling you 'what' it's going to fund.

electricity

electricity, taxes, capitalism, the usual

Oh fun lmao

This is a great place to get into an argument for hours.

Time to s c r o l

lol

Well let me put it like this

solar, wind, and geothermal are the most realiable afaict

I do insist that you scroll up to my 'Apple' explanation of capitalism

I used to live in a 2 bedroom appartment 130 m²

Now i live in a single appartment 65 m²

I pay more for heating now

then i ever did at the other place

rip

Even tho, now i only have 1 heater working

lmao this dude using meters like we're in eu

and at the other place i had 7

we don't ever heat, but we still gotta pay for it

Difference is: Other place had a guy check the meter every year.
This place got "smart meters"

Nuclear is most relaiable and best way of producing electricity

I begin at ``I think the average person doesn't comprehend what Taxes actually do.``

If you want a search reference

oh boy, our house might get smart meters
that's gonna suck ass

Yeah nuclear is reliable until the grid goes down and it nukes a small city

What part of the nation are you from Shin?

im talking about central heating smart meters shinsoo

germany

not electric smart meters

Oh.

Here I thought you were an NA league player.

i know, tritium

but turns out, na.

u gonna get those?

looks likely atm

@shinsoo ask about GDPR compliance of the smart meters ? 😉

i think it might be compulsory for new houses in the area

Ah, I do get it...

lmao @aukkras

Well i would suggest to compile a logbook of the usage at ur house

Opinions? https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1052432015486803968?s=19

A lot of what you''re dealing with are EU regulations I think Trit.

@J.R. The Fool grit going down nukes a small city.
Wtf are you talking about?

and compare it with a year with those smart meters

id love to hear about u when that happens

Fukushima

nah these taxes are our government rye

Power goes out, no stability for the reactor

Boom.

Fukusima was user error

they always been assholes like this

Was it? I thot it was the big ol storm

I'm probably wrong

EU nations are notoriously bad for trying to punish energy usage.

in before jews.

Its like with the roads here rye

we'll definitely be making notes
cause right now, we never heat. if our new house, with its great insulation and airflow suddenly forces us to heat, we're gonna be peeved

And jesse stops.

j e w w w w w s

caaaaaaalllled it.

NOTHING is done on providing enough alternatives for our 40 year old, 10 year overdue reactors

And with the roads, cars are like a cash cow

yet none of that absurd amount of money ever goes to roads

I shit u not

When u cross the border from belgium to the netherlands

u literally can see, feel and notice the quality suddenly jumps

ask any dutchman that ever drove trough belgium

Getting a lot of people in EU here...

[pothole- tyler the creator plays]

were overrunning tim pools discord

<:NPC:500042527231967262> Diversity <:NPC:500042527231967262> Is <:NPC:500042527231967262> Our <:NPC:500042527231967262> Strength <:NPC:500042527231967262>

@tritrium from Belgium, @Dr.Wol from the Netherlands if I'm not mistaken...

yea

Shin from Germany

anyone here actually from the good ol us of a?

I am

No.

Not

a month ago i drove my mother to the airport

I'm from Texas.

<:Texas:489635051194023936>

I'm fucking Swedish

Oh yeah y'all are your own country i forget

Texas is rightfully Mexican clay

noticed it again, right at the border the quality jumped massively when entering the netherlands

grey old concrete block highway

into high quality silent asphalt

Texas is an independent desert

anyways imma leave u guys before i get angry again

Uhm....

DON'T MAKE FUN OF OUR LINGO, EURO

one sec...

i got work to do lol

I got a test

Press F for me

f

f

i got university, need to catch the train... two hours ago

huh...

one sec

Shit that is beautiful

Good pic m8

Not incredibly so

looks dry

This was taken during the winter immediately following a flood

A lot of the trees were pretty badly damaged.

Well I live in fucking arizona so anythings better than a bumfuck desert

but the parts that are green

How'd you snap that pic?

Looks
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Texas secretly temperate? 👀

he was on top of an electric pole

or just huge enough to have varied climate

I miss Texas

prolly just huge enough

I flew my drone a disturbingly low amount this summer. o_o

Guys

Can there ever be too much drone?

I found out what's wrong with the ACLU

They've been taken over by NPCs

oh, my, yes.

Everything?

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1051973745445748736?s=19

Lmao okay

<:NPC:500042527231967262>

<:NPC:500042527231967262>

looks bugged

Let all the prisoners out guys

Its the humane thing to do

If that's not an NPC, then I'm president

Stop! You've violated the law!

Hey where can I get a beanie like daddy's?

Because I hate my afro and want to hide it

Tim Pool used to wear Vans beanies back in the day.

What do he wear now?

Some fake ass beenie prolly

Empyre.

That's the latest brand he's been wearing.

I have yet to find the exact one. It is now my mission to dox Tim Pool's beanie.

That looks like it's still an Empyre that he wore in yesterday's video.

You guys could just ask him

No.

That would ruin the fun.

besides, it looks like he only wears vintage out of print beanies.

hipster.

https://www.zumiez.com/empyre-carter-charcoal-and-black-beanie.html

He's just a weeb

?

looks like it

I think that might be Tim's beanie.

And go figure, it went on sale for a dollar and went out of print.

Beanie DOXXXXED

How much do you want to bet he owns like twenty god damned back up beanies that all look the same?

He's just got a chest-of-drawers full of the same beanie.

Probably had to move house due to the number of beanies

<:beanie:463084349642899468>

It's become part of his brand.

One day he's going to run for president

His slogan will be 'In Beanie We Trust'

Unrelated, but do any of you remember child fucker being spelt Pedophile?

Twenty is not enough for a month, he might actually have 30 or multiple of 30 😉

AND YEET WEED IS LEGAL IN CANADA

XD

(completely unrelated)

"Social Justice is a good thing."
"Why?"
<:beanie:463084349642899468>
<:NPC:500042527231967262>

Would tim be a good president

His opponents will argue that we can't have a president who won't show the nation their un-capped head.

He'd be honest and dedicated

They'll argue that not taking your beanie off during the National Anthem is a sign of disrespect.