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2018-07-02 16:34:21 UTC

its all about revenue now, if my second channel works then I can fund more Subverse

2018-07-02 16:34:28 UTC

which is where the actually on the ground stuff is heading

2018-07-02 16:34:30 UTC
2018-07-02 16:34:32 UTC

like we did with Brett weinstein

2018-07-02 16:34:33 UTC

Say, do we have any app developers in our community here?

2018-07-02 16:36:55 UTC

I like writing during the summers to stay sharp and I feel that nowadays big news really sucks at being honest about 'e-celebs' more than most 'groups'

2018-07-02 16:36:56 UTC

this life is a double edge sword. If I go to a big mainstream outlet I'll literally be the 1%

2018-07-02 16:37:00 UTC

but then I have to lie n shit

2018-07-02 16:37:01 UTC

so fuck that

2018-07-02 16:37:17 UTC

hahaha I agree

2018-07-02 16:37:27 UTC

im not broke, I get to travel and eat which is great

2018-07-02 16:37:31 UTC

I wanna get some work with the cbc and local radio to build a resume

2018-07-02 16:37:35 UTC

but at the end of the year I cant afford a family or retirement

2018-07-02 16:37:40 UTC

But then I wanna go independent

2018-07-02 16:38:14 UTC

I'm over here trying to build a media company to cover and promote my state. I'm funding what I've got out of pocket. It's effing hard.

2018-07-02 16:40:01 UTC

๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-07-02 16:40:03 UTC

Wew lad

2018-07-02 16:40:12 UTC

Very hard imo

2018-07-02 16:40:41 UTC

Thats why most independent ppl just do commentary

2018-07-02 16:40:49 UTC

Which sucks

2018-07-02 16:40:57 UTC

We'd be able to get started if I could find a way to make an app for our first project, a radio station

2018-07-02 16:41:36 UTC

The system doesn't seem to want to play as a url

2018-07-02 16:41:54 UTC

im not convinced we need better "news"

2018-07-02 16:41:58 UTC

I think we need a moderate outlet

2018-07-02 16:42:07 UTC

critical of the system and praising it where it does well

2018-07-02 16:42:11 UTC

centrist opinion

2018-07-02 16:42:14 UTC

basically

2018-07-02 16:42:18 UTC

I agree.

2018-07-02 16:42:23 UTC

real dialectic between the left and right

2018-07-02 16:42:27 UTC

like we see with the IDW

2018-07-02 16:42:29 UTC

Tim i think we need better system and quality control

2018-07-02 16:42:58 UTC

Also i would so love better international reporting

2018-07-02 16:43:17 UTC

Newspapera dont have money to do that properly

2018-07-02 16:44:09 UTC

So if i read newspapers here in britain ihave absolutely no clue whats going on in russia south africa or south america

2018-07-02 16:44:17 UTC

And it irks me

2018-07-02 16:44:36 UTC

It's hard to get that info

2018-07-02 16:44:51 UTC

Because obviously i dont have time to siff through all the news from other parts of the world

2018-07-02 16:44:55 UTC

I disagree

2018-07-02 16:45:04 UTC

With internet its easier then ever

2018-07-02 16:45:13 UTC

Ppl just dont do it right yet

2018-07-02 16:45:23 UTC

Seems like there are unofficial information embargo in place between nations like that

2018-07-02 16:45:40 UTC

No just lack of money

2018-07-02 16:45:43 UTC

the EU trying to make it official

2018-07-02 16:46:49 UTC

Who is your source for info in Russia?

2018-07-02 16:46:56 UTC

putin

2018-07-02 16:47:12 UTC

I have few rusian friands in another discord

2018-07-02 16:47:18 UTC

If it's a government official, you're likely to get propaganda

2018-07-02 16:47:26 UTC

If you need to find something

2018-07-02 16:47:39 UTC

I even have guy from china

2018-07-02 16:48:22 UTC

If it's an individual, you risk them getting in trouble as a source if you are informing a hostile nation

2018-07-02 16:48:39 UTC

Lol i dont do journalism

2018-07-02 16:48:57 UTC

I just ask benine queations what is going on

2018-07-02 16:48:57 UTC

At which point you ethically need resources to protect them if necessary

2018-07-02 16:49:02 UTC

When apt

2018-07-02 16:49:19 UTC

Its gaming discord after all

2018-07-02 16:49:27 UTC

We shitpost lots of stuff

2018-07-02 16:49:41 UTC

But you'd need to be able to verify.

2018-07-02 16:50:08 UTC

It's a lot more complicated than you might think

2018-07-02 16:51:46 UTC

As i said its just for my interest i take it as what it is

2018-07-02 16:52:06 UTC

Some random pleb telling me things from his home on the internet

2018-07-02 16:52:35 UTC

You might say i use it to verify oficial sources

2018-07-02 16:53:10 UTC

I see article about aometging and i ask ppl from thay area what is it all about

2018-07-02 16:53:21 UTC

And compare results

2018-07-02 16:54:32 UTC

Obviously if i were writing for newspaper i would need much more sources

2018-07-02 16:55:00 UTC

Even tho current journalists write international news based on one source

2018-07-02 16:55:14 UTC

Like the pee pee tape of donald trump

2018-07-02 16:59:44 UTC

i dont get why Crowder is wrong so often

2018-07-02 16:59:54 UTC

hes right on a lot of things but I feel like he should do better

2018-07-02 17:00:09 UTC

when he does the real conversations he never fact checks

2018-07-02 17:00:15 UTC

or I should say not enough

2018-07-02 17:00:59 UTC

Tim i said it before he absolutely bombed on global climate change

2018-07-02 17:01:15 UTC

Where he was spreading straight up lies

2018-07-02 17:01:36 UTC

why would he fact check? he prepares for the usual talking points so that he can rebutt them

2018-07-02 17:01:58 UTC

(Took one study and selectively presented results in oposite way what it actually said)

2018-07-02 17:02:10 UTC

Real conversations aren't really about facts for the most part though, they're more about having a conversation, and seeing both sides

2018-07-02 17:02:35 UTC

It's not a debate, it's just a look at the left's arguments and how they respond to rebuttals

2018-07-02 17:02:37 UTC

After he got informed about it refused to explain or correct his mistakes

2018-07-02 17:02:47 UTC

sadly that is all that is needed because college does not tell you how to think, but what to think these days

2018-07-02 17:02:57 UTC

crowder is more focused on entertainment than really informing people

2018-07-02 17:03:01 UTC

What do you guys think of PBS news?

2018-07-02 17:03:29 UTC

They're mostly non profit, and have received a ton of awards for journalism

2018-07-02 17:04:07 UTC

Shiva there is real problem with ppl picking unhinged college students and presenting them as representatives of whole left

2018-07-02 17:04:19 UTC

But he isn't picking them?

2018-07-02 17:04:44 UTC

Funny they never have discussion with more serious lefties like kyle kulinsky

2018-07-02 17:04:47 UTC

And others

2018-07-02 17:05:02 UTC

Dude, it's steven fucking crowder

2018-07-02 17:05:07 UTC

And its to all our detriment tbh

2018-07-02 17:05:22 UTC

He would be eviscerated in a real debate

2018-07-02 17:05:42 UTC

Ben shapiro does it too

2018-07-02 17:05:48 UTC

To an extent

2018-07-02 17:05:58 UTC

And left does it too

2018-07-02 17:06:02 UTC

From other side

2018-07-02 17:06:10 UTC

With exceptions

2018-07-02 17:06:25 UTC

They dont realy react to each other

2018-07-02 17:06:33 UTC

best thing i have heard in ages was jordan petersons "i might have been wrong on that one"

2018-07-02 17:06:42 UTC

Agreed

2018-07-02 17:06:47 UTC

And real conversations weren't really ever about representing a side, just having a conversation from people who are willing to disagree

2018-07-02 17:08:12 UTC

I personally loved the two genders one

2018-07-02 17:09:03 UTC

the change my mind segment is extremely predictable for him and he prepares for what he predicts the arguments are going to be. so if you really want to change his mind or even look good you have to come up with arguments yourself that he can not so easily prepare for

2018-07-02 17:09:52 UTC

Lol I love how he literally bought a catalogue of arguments along in the socialism one, and every single opposing argument was predicted in it

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