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Can I get a location to see how far away it is?
Reminder to all comrades in the area. We will be holding a Nationalist Front meeting, TWP and allies, in Ocoee TN this weekend on Saturday at 1pm at the famous Whitewater Grill.
The address is 1224 US-64, Ocoee, TN 37361
The purpose of the meeting is to plan for the upcoming Charlottesville event carpool, plan for future events, network, and do a flash demo.
Come meet great comrades and let's make some history!
4 hours plus no money until next week. I guess I should save for Charlottesville. Where can I get more details on that? I have only heard about it.
Aug 12, Charlottesville VA, Lee Park
Will someone invite me to the chat about it? I guess when you guys figure out the details tomorrow, I can know where to meet up for the caravan.
Man, I wish I could be there in TN. Busy with a huge Trad Catholic get together in my area though, so no regrets. I'll see some of you next week at least. Hail Victory! ✋
Wish i could go SO bad.
What's up with the new ranking system? What's mine? Lol.
God Emperor Colton Williams, to be official.
There's only two of us in my small city. I guess I'm some kind of chapter guy or something. The old leader stepped down and left a void.
Have a talk with Heimbach about it.
This is...amazing. "People were operated on here by the best doctors, they would be hospitalized for entire weeks as they healed, and when they were all better they were put on a transport". Because the best use of doctors during war time is to have them fix up Jews who are going to be gassed anyway? http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-holland-the-nazis-built-a-luxury-camp-to-lull-the-jews-before-murdering-them/
Just got to listen to Simon Roche talk
Ready for Charlottesville
I'm just gonna banana it with a hat
Those bike locks and rocks hurt the noggin.
@1Robertelee Thought about eye protection in the case of you getting gassed?
Getting any in your mouth and nose is a bitch too. There's always room for more protection, you just have to weight and consider the pros and cons.
I usually just wear glasses #yolo
Shit yeah you know I got Luftwaffe pilot goggles.
I'm gonna wing it. Hope for the best. Lol
I just bring lab goggles and a respirator from Home Depot
Pray for my car lol
sending thoughts and prayers
Do you guys have some people working as designated guards or is it just each nazi for himself?
Someone in the Charlottesville Discord said they have it all planned out but won't release the plan so who knows.
Well, something to bring up in the meet.
What meet ?
Since if it's just one ball of nazis it's pretty much antifa tier tactics. The best trainer and geared should be working as the guards. It also makes it easier for newbies to join, knowing they're good and don't have to beat their way to a HQ.
Just any meet, I suppose you have meets.
Indeed it does. I mentioned this several times. I look at it as Pickett duty but we are not there yet. The TWP is having one now in TN.
Yeah, you don't need an army, it's a cliché but an organized group is worth so many unorganized. Always when a fight breaks out its pretty chaotic, when shit goes down responsibilities should be clear. So the common participants know they're good, and the guards know it's time to crack some skulls. Instead of people freezing up or 30 guys trying to tear limbs off some antifa.
I'm doing shit with local guys now
It's been a long while but I remember this one march, one suicidal antifa attacks 200 nazis, no one even knows what's going on and they rush to the fight to kick the only guy in the ground, and in the end the cops pull the one anti from the ground to save him from a complete boot party by 30 closest nazis.
Optimal situation would have been the two-three closest guys working as guards take him out without the formation ever being disrupted.
It would be good to have a battle buddy type system, train with them etc
What we had in Afghanistan
It doesn't even have to be all that complicated, just before the actual event you can hand pick the guards from the most prepared ones and you're pretty much good.
>An art installation next to the NRM's marquee consisting of a pile of shoes, in reference to the Nazi crimes of World War II, was vandalised by members of the militant group upon their arrival to Almedalen on Friday. NRM activists tore the installation down, and loaded some of the shoes into a car before they were stopped by the police.
I agree! Optics as well!
Not even optics fam, it's just practical.
I remember thinking in that situation as well if I should join in on the boot party or if they got it, I ended up running to join them but was blocked by cops.
I'm not a fan of boot parties. That's nigger shit.
I think they need boot parties tbh
Well, we didn't have combat boots but otherwise it was a boot party yeah.
Thry don't deserve shit
They need their ass whooped fair and square.
Look, antifa charges a few hundred nazis, what do you think is gonna happen.
It's actually a fucking funny story.
The antifa was fucking obese, and attacked the shortest guy there, but he quickly turns around, punches him in the face, grabs him by the front of his hoodie and pulls him to the ground.
I guess there is no fair in war though. I get it.
This took like 0.5 seconds, 0.5 seconds later everyone is kicking and punching the ever living shit out of him.
Nothing fair with communists
He attacked a guy twice smaller than him, he only got some bruises and a broken nose, got off easy.
and the boot party thing is exactly what I mean, if you had designated guards it could be taken care of nice and clean
If everyone wants to join in on tearing commies apart, it will get ugly.
Not that I mind, but yeah.
sometimes they need it to get ugly. Next time they'll think twice about starting shit.
Whites are too nice in our country
You'd think so, it's our local annual tradition of beating the shit out of the only militant antifascist here. The previous year we busted his eye and lip but he never learns.
Maybe this year...?
Yeah, for some reason whites insist on protecting communists and jews from the consequences of their actions. Adolf Hitler knew that Europeans are too nice, even when the Germans were marching to war against those who slaughtered them he knew he had to tell them "close your hearts to pity".
Pity is a very white trait.
Yeah, I agree. Always remember the jew, and what they have done
Remember that the kikes cruelly tortured and eventually killed Julius Streicher for basically making memes before the internet existed.
One day our patience will come to an end
And they'll have their lying jew mouths shit for them
Reading Savitri Devi always fills me with such hatred, when she recounts the tales of her fellow national socialists imprisoned by the Allies. Even those who went out of their way to be nice and humane to the jews, brought them new blankets and even gave them some of their fresh rations after allies had bombed the railways were tortured to death.
There's no being nice to them. It doesn't work. We've tried that in America for 80 years
They just stab us in the back even harder
"The men of the Holy Inquisition did not hate the "heretics" whom they handed
over to the "secular arm" to be burnt at the stake. On the contrary, they loved
them— in their strange, very strange way. They loved their souls, in Christ and in
the holy Church, as it was their duty, and hoped till the end for their conversion,
and prayed for God's grace to enlighten them, while the bodies were burning.
The furious reformers of the French Revolution killed off their opponents by the
thousands, after a rapid trial or no trial at all, without bothering to torture or to
humiliate them, save in a few special cases. They too, did not hate them. They
only wanted to get rid of them.
And we, National Socialists— we whom the whole world accuses of all possible
and impossible crimes, now that we are no longer in power— we never hated
anyone in our grand days. We were ruthless, yes; we had to be. But we never were
cruel, whatever the liars might say. We killed, if we were forced to, but with
detachment, and as quickly and cleanly as possible. We never inflicted pain,
unless it was absolutely necessary, for State reasons. And then we never
considered it a pleasant necessity.
Our persecutors have, countless times, inflicted pain upon us, without it being in
any way a State necessity from their point of view. They have starved us, beaten
us, tortured us and compelled us, at the point of their bayonets, to undergo the
worst possible humiliations, for the sheer delight of knowing that we felt the
hunger, the pain and the insults, and that we suffered— we the strong and the
proud; the hated Nazis— for the sheer delight of feeling that we were now in their
power, and that any ill-treatment could henceforth be meted out to us with
Unfortunately I think we are innately kind, and that should stop
Is that Savitri Devi?
I just love spamming these huge quotes. 😅
You know it, Gold in the Furnace.
I haven't read it yet, but sounded like her. Beautiful.
Ah I just now picked up on the fact that you didn't live in the States.
It's a white trait to be kind and altruistic.
A defining trait.
Yeah some of the shit these fuckers of other races do to animals makes me see red.
Hitler put animal abusers in work camps.
Yeah I was just invited here when the room was started, stayed for the chill and comfy atmosphere.
Try to tell a normie he invented animal legal rights tho.
Savitri Devi also wrote about the exact same thing, that German kids in the ruins would pat the cats and share their little milk with them while the negroes would kick the cats and pull their tails and whatnot. That high trust society and altruism.
@dd✳555 Yeah got a few massive pagan tomes and I'm re-reading Lightning and the Sun and Gold in the Furnace to refresh my memory. Doing it together with a few local EHs I managed to recruit just a few days ago.
You know how it is, you just can't help seeing the connections everywhere.
Thr Golden Thread.
It's 56 on Amazon, fuck.
Yeah, Serrano writes in the Golden Cord extensively of Hitler as the archeotypal returning King. I started re-reading Kalevala as well and the connections are just everywhere. But that's how it is, Savitri and Serrano described the Indo-Aryan religion and perennial tradition with such accuracy, once you read them, you cannot help seeing it, and the heritage of the aryan blood faith.
Modern day prophets tbh, all of them.
Yeah. And I think I have also mentioned how Himmler and Ahnenerbe agents toured the towns where my grandfather used to live to record spells from the local shamans. So they clearly saw the connection as well.
Himmler considered pretty much everyone ancient aryans, but still 😄
It's interesting that these topics are popping up so much.
Like that we know about esoteric Hitlerism is a miracle.
It really is a spiritual connection, a shifting of some sort...
It really, really is. I also like this discord because there're a bunch of EHs, last thing I expected from a hardcore Christian party.
Also NSBM fans.
Really, I remember a long time ago TWP was promoting the Arthurian tradition as well.
"… while Arthur is attempting to realize his legendary world empire and to conquer even Rome in order to be crowned emperor therein, his nephew Modred, who remained at home, usurps the throne and takes possession of Arthur’s woman, Guinevere. In the war that ensues the traitor is killed, but the best knights of the Round Table also die. Arthur himself is mortally wounded; he is taken to Avalon, that the health-restoring techniques of the women inhabiting that land (especially Morgande’s) may heal him and allow him to resume his function. But Arthur’s wounds (especially the one produced by a poisoned spear, according to some writers) open up again every year while his faithful subjects at home vainly await his return. There is a tradition, however, according to which one day Arthur will return from Avalon to resume his reign: this is why the Britons, since then, never wanted to appoint another king. In other forms of the legend-for instance, in the Otia imperialia by Gervasius of Tilbury-Arthur is portrayed lying in bed in a wonderful palace located on top of a mountain."
The Arthurian legend of wounded and returning King is the same as German legend of Emperor Frederic Barbarossa, who shall one day come out of the cave in which he has been asleep for centuries, and save his people, and lead them to unheard-of glory; in Denmark, as Holger Danske, of the Kronborg Mountain; in Poland, as the “Sleeping Host” of folk-tales; in Hungary, as “Attila,” who is, one day to re-appear at the head of “Csaba’s Army”, and as I've learned re-reading Kalevala, that of Väinämöinen as well.
All Aryans are connected by their blood-faith.
Very nice quote.
Where do you live, man?
From "Golden" as well, really worth getting, recommended.
The Golden Thread?
Are Serrano and Devi the only two big EH?
"In the Hindu tradition we encounter the theme of Mahakasyapa, who sleeps in a mountain but will awaken at the sound of shells at the time of the new manifestation of the principle that previously manifested itself in the form of Buddha. Such a period is also that of the coming of a Universal Ruler (cakravartin) by the name of Sarpkha...l. An analogous Iranian tradition refers to the hero Kereshaspa, who, having been wounded by an arrow while he was immersed in a state of slumber (here we find again the same symbolism), survives in a lethargic state through the centuries, being nurtured by the fravashi (like the wounded Arthur, who is tended by women expert in healing techniques); he will come back to life at the time of Saoshyant’s advent and will fight on his side. Saoshyant is the lord of a future, triumphal kingdom of the God of Light and the slayer of the Arhimanic dark forces…"
They're the two biggest prophets, there're smaller ones like James L. Battersby, I guess Anton Holzner in a way, and Sigurd Wettenhovi-Aspa and Robert Charroux too although I have not read the latter.
Mithra and Ahriman, light and dark. I wish to one day know the religion of the Atlanteans. Lost to time.
Yeah. I could spend all day making connections, but one of the very last words of Kalevala, by the departing hero really stuck me:
"Suns may rise and set in Suomi,
Rise and set for generations,
When the North will learn my teachings,
Will recall my wisdom-sayings,
Hungry for the true religion.
Then will Suomi need my coming,
Watch for me at dawn of morning,
That I may bring back the Sampo,
Bring anew the harp of joyance,
Bring again the golden moonlight,
Bring again the silver sunshine,
Peace and plenty to the Northland."
As translated by J M Crawford. Doesn't really do it justice, but you can see how it fits perfectly into the leaving/returning King archeotype straight from collective aryan blood memory.
"Bring again the golden moonlight" reminds also of what Evola said in The Myth of the Holy Grail, a "Lunar cycle" is a spiritual cycle where the Light/Truth is only reflected from the source. Supposed to be a time of inner meditation and priestly guidance. Gold as a symbol of the sun, or Light, would then mean that what Väinämöinen implies is a solar inner awakening, much like the Golden Age, where aryans possess the Truth without going through karmic rebirths.
Once you "get" EH, you see the world in entirely different light, the aryan collective spirituality is everywhere in our tradition, from one end of the world to another.
Man that is heavy stuff, resonates greatly. Powerful. I totally agree, this changes you. Never again back to sleep.
You really know your stuff, comrade. Proud to converse with you.
Talking with other EHs is always a joy, especially those from different parts of the world, when they can tell how their local legends reflect the Truth as explained by Savitri and Serrano, you're in awe how we're all connected in such a deep way.
I'm reading Alex Kurtagic's translation of The Golden Thread now. It's excellent. Jason T. is also doing one now, to be released the day of the eclipse as far as I know. Looking forward to comparing the two (or three if you count Jason's first translation.
Yeah, it's just one of those books you could and want to quote endlessly. But I'll spare you this time.
I'll have to concentrate some day to write an actual EH analysis of our myths as not to drown all the Discords I'm in in esotericism.
You really should.
Too bad, I guess you're going to miss the eclipse.
But you get to live in Finland so I guess that makes up for it.
I guess I'll live with it. I also got files of 100,000 (100k!) pagan spells and incantations. In print it's 34 volume book. I'm pretty much set for life.
I am unfamiliar with this. Can y'all give me some cliff notes ?
Can you be any more specific?
Wow, that's fascinating. I've read the Kalevala translated.
Cliffs notes, maybe Amorphis lyrics?
I am also not familiar with that haha
Everyone knows the White Horse motif, but I'm fascinated by the Swan in Kalevala, it also had huge influence in Hinduism (Saraswati), and even in the Arthurian legend.
Lemminkäinen was cut into pieces and pieced back together like Osiris as he attempted to slay the swan crossing the river into the underworld. Reading up about swans in aryan mythology atm.
I feel like I'm talking to Aryan Pod People lol
So what do you wanna know, esoteric hitlerism, kalevala, etc?
Yeah I was talking about that white horse just recently. All world mythos lead to a singular truth.
Just a short briefing of it all.
Very interesting stuff, and I thought I was a bit of a scholar on this.
Very interesting stuff, and I thought I was a bit of a scholar on this.
Well, @Kombat-Unit is the only person in existence who could explain something like that in a single post in Discord, so I'll leave him to it.
I could quote Serrano himself about “Three fundamental positions of Esoteric Hitlerism". From Golden Thread, where else.
"The position that all of these concepts and narratives are purely symbolic for the inner processes of the soul towards liberation/transcendence
The position that these things are the “as above” equivalents for the real world “so below” concepts that do/did really exist, like Hyperborea and Atlantis, and this position drives people to establish a Golden Age on Earth (he associates Evola’s direction with this via Evola’s promotion of an esoteric order/aristocracy establishing an organic state and etc)
Lastly: “besides these two directions which seem to be different, there is also a third one, that contains the previous ones and reconciles them”
Well, might be still too esoteric.
To put it as simply as I can, all Aryans share a collective spirituality, and we have only forgotten our connection due to the corruption of blood memory. All our myths and faiths are the same, with only minor variations of different volksgeists.
Esoteric Hitlerism is about discovering this deep connection, and restoration of Golden Age.
It's hard for me to explain some of that stuff to "Solid Earth" National Socialists. I spend so much time talking with the hollow earth subset.
God, Kalevala resonates so amazingly with Esoteric Hitlerism. "The Northland" was usually seen as the land of the dead. Much like Heracles, Lemminkäinen in the role of the god of war goes to "hades" to retreive his love and learns secrets during his journey. The water is also an important symbol. Water typically represents the passions and material existence. It represents transcendence above the crudely material, which is why figures walk on water in several myths. Also the leader of Finnish pagan rites was half-submerged in water as he made an offering to the Gods of air, symbolic meaning that hes a medium between the otherwordly and wordly. Also, the attempt to kill the swan crossing the river could be seen as an attempt to disrupt natural order, since swans represented the soul travelling from material world to the underworld, netherworld.
God, I could keep on doing this all day.
I really like this piece of Kalevala art, water motif. And also swastikas.
Also the part where Ilmarinen forges a wife out of Gold, and destroys her at the suggestion of Väinämöinen, and instead goes to the north, to the land of the dead, to seek a wife, and for a quest of wisdom, and eventually reclaims Sun and Moonlight stolen by the mistress of the north. It's just so heavy with symbolism I could keep going on and on.
That's amazing! I was just recently making the connection between EH and Kalevala. I was trying to explain the Cosmic Egg to someone...
You should really do some writing about the parallels there. I don't see it mentioned in anything I've read before. It's important, I think.
Smiths have allways been revered as magicians, wise men, the men bending the power of nature to their will utilizing all the elements. It's also interesting that the story of Wayland the Smith places Wayland's home in Finland, and he marries a swan maiden as well. And the cosmic egg you mentioned. Just so many things to analyze.
Also the thing Väinämöinen said of materialism resonates now as strongly as it did in the Bronze Age: "Magic brother, wonder-forger,
Throw the virgin to the furnace,
To the flames, thy golden image,
Forge from her a thousand trinkets.
Take the image into Ehstland,
Take her to the plains of Pohya,
That for her the mighty powers
May engage in deadly contest,
Worthy trophy for the victor;
Not for me this bride of wonder,
Neither for my worthy people.
I shall never wed an image
Born from many magic metals,
Never wed a silver maiden,
Never wed a golden virgin."
Then the hero of the waters
Called together all his people,
Spake these words of ancient wisdom:
"Every child of Northland, listen,
Whether poor, or fortune-favored:
Never bow before an image
Born of molten gold and silver:
Never while the sunlight brightens,
Never while the moonlight glimmers,
Choose a maiden of the metals,
Choose a bride from gold created
Cold the lips of golden maiden,
Silver breathes the breath of sorrow."
I love that. 💚I guess, being an EH and a metalsmith how could I not?
Always really loved the art as well, even way before Hitler.
And I bet you do ❤
I was always curious about Wayland. I've studied historical metallurgy for a number of years. I actually have more books about historical metallurgy than NS or EH combined. That's a great picture. Who did it?
Nikolai Kochergin, here's a bunch of his Kalevala related art, love it: http://book-graphics.blogspot.fi/2015/11/kalevala-illustrator-nikolai-kochergin.html
Thanks y'all. This was very enlightening to me.
Those drawings are magical. They almost don't look like they were done by a Russian.
Anyhow, good night, guys.
They're from a book published in Karelian SSR so might be a native after all.
Same to you. Nite.
Just got the Nevada Chapter established.
Is there a file containing the TWP Propaganda? Thanks.
Brothers, add me on FB. Colton Streicher. Photo is me hailing the dawn.
Adding but different name.
At yesterday's regional meet, I gave a small statement and Im glad to say Ive climbed aboard. ⚡Hail Victory⚡
Ever notice how there are no red-haired emojis?
Thats autistic screech-worthy. Marginalized gingers!
Right! Every color of brown, but no gingers.
Why isn't this every nationalist's favorite band?
I don't dig power metal, but whatever gets folks into Nationalism is good. I like Amon Amarth for that reason. I've been digging the new Nokturnal Mortum : Folksy Ukrainian NSBM. https://youtu.be/6ycy57X2cB8
@AltCelt(IL) glad to hear you performed the blood sacrifice. The CVLT grows!
Oh yeah, Dark Fury and Goatmoon split comin 😔 ✋🏻
Moloth is based, promoted "Traditionalism, Julius Evola and Rene Guenon: How the Esoteric Becomes Political" lecture in Azov's Cossack House in Kiev. Would have been fun to visit
Yeah, love how they're active in the political scene promoting their ideas, and not only through music.
That's awesome. "Discussing the role of Black Metal in future state policy". 🤔.
You can be appointed Minister of Black Metal in future white homeland of America.
State sanctioned NSBM, awesome.
Doesn't Norway have a minister of metal? Or did I just dream that?
I don't think so, but it will when we come to power.
Enfold Darkness is the best metal band imo, skill level wise.
They're from TN, I know them well. The main writer is an esoteric scholar for sure.
Yeah, those guys are good at what they do.
Grand Belial's Key is an interesting American....maybe not NSBM but 100% anti-Jew. No one else sounds like them, for sure.
By the way, funny that you brought up Nokturnal Mortum, just listened to them yesterday. Just like Satanic Warmaster, they're one of those "I love Hitler but totes not political."
"Not even political...alright, next we're playing 'Hailed be the heroes'"
Enfold's first album is off the wall with technical black/death metal skill.
Also they played with M8l8th and Varggoth was in a band called "Aryan Terrorism"
not political tho
They aren't NSBM. But the main writer is woke.
Satanic Warmaster is NSBM. Why else would I listen to them. Same with Nokturnal Mortum.
The main catch for me in NSBM is the NS part.
Yeah, it's like, no one even cares, just say you're a nazi breh.
Also Varggoth was in RAC band Warhead.
Yeah, they'd probably write better music and lyrics if they weren't trying to hide all the Nazi stuff between the lines.
Yeah I mean, the funny part is that they're not even hiding nazism, either of the bands, it's blatant as fuck, frankly. But still when asked they're totally nonchalant like "Yeah we're not political" like...really? 😄 I guess they jump through the hoops to be able to play abroad and wherever but yeah.
Like Werwolf even sold CDs to some guys from my local chapter. We know he doesn't give a fuck, reds know he doesn't give a fuck, he knows we know he doesn't give a fuck.
Goatmoon is cool, he just surfs to the stage wearing swastika flag. He's awesome.
I guess, if they want to play outside a few select countries, they have to be pretty careful. I get it, but I don't like it.
Funnily enough, they're all so racist they refuse to play in non-white countries still, so it's only for a show for some white cucks. Graveland has gone full poz and even throws gigs in like Bolivia or something.
Canucks were more offended by Graveland than fucking bolivians lol
Graveland got a whole metal fest shut down in Montreal last year. Thanks, Antifa. But, yeah, they're not even that good. I just love them because they're Nazis.
Stormheit is woke too, I'm not that into folk but he straight up in interview told straight up he's fucking tired of posers in the BM "scene" who can mock Allah and King of the Jews but shit their pants if they should make fun of the "Chosen people".
Yeah, exactly right.
What's the deal with Graveland though, aren't they like legit legit "non political" now since they throw gigs in non-white countries. What's the deal.
Can't offend the likes of you want to be big rock stars like 1349 someday.
Graveland hasn't been political in some time, I guess.
"Most transgressive genre ever, so edgy, so radical, fuck you mom and dad, fuck you church, fuck you Jesus, fuck the muslims, fuck the cross.."
- "And fuck the KIKES"
"Wow, just wow, you crossed a line. This was a civilized, nice, safe black metal space before you had to bring a minority oppressed for 2000 years into this. Please leave."
That sums it up. Exactly.
The problem I have with most NS music is it isn't good technically.