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What's your excuse?
Got Cross of Freedom at age 13 or 14, he's cooler than I am and his balls hadn't even dropped.
During the battle of the very city I live in.
Too bad he got shot along with Olof Palme's much cooler uncle and namesake who supported eugenics and was a huge anticommunist.
ah yeah Palme right
the guy they think may have been assassinated by the Civil Cooperation Bureau
for his opposition to apartheid
Little known fact, his uncle took part in Finnish civil war along with Martin Ekström who would find the Swedish nazi party.
White terror best terror.
Ironically, the guy who would find the Lapua movement was imprisoned in Shpalernaja prison that got emptied when the Bolsheviks took power.
It would be like the ADL broke you out of a maximum security prison.
that's absolutely beautiful
Alright, this is going to be too ironic to even comprehend.
Aarne Sihvo was likewise imprisoned by Russians for helping the independence movement. Reds take power, he gets kicked out. Civil war starts in Finland, he becomes a commander and helps beat the reds who either surrender or run to russia, among them red guard commander Antikainen. As a gigantic fuck you to the Bolsheviks, he leads an expedition to Russia in 1919 to grab some RIGHTFUL precious Finnish clay, and fights Antikainen's troops. Again. But this time in Russia.
It goes on.
After several years of border wars, we grabbed some clay thanks to Sihvo and buddies, and it pretty much dies down by 1923. In 1933 Antikainen decides to infiltrate Finland to help the underground communist party. He gets caught, and there's political trial with constant threat of death sentence for war crimes during the so called "Kinship Wars", with rumors of cannibalism etc. But, Winter War starts in 1939, doesn't go so swimmingly, and one of the demands of the Soviets is comrade Antikainen is released at once.
He goes to Russia and is immediately made representative of Finno-Karelian SSR in High Soviet Council of Representatives. But he begins to wonder why absolutely no one he knows is alive anymore, and and starts asking questions. He dies less than a year after returning to Soviet Union after NKVD is kicking in his door and he defenestrated himself.
He survived almost a decade of constant threat of execution but dies less than a year after coming home. With friends like Bolsheviks, who needs enemies.
Leftist ideology leads to neurotic intellectualism like that
It's honestly a depressing story you're telling here.
One of my favorite things is Ben explaining Orwell's motives for writing 1984, how his experience in Spain inspired him - he was accused of being a Fascist and ostracized for intellectual reasons.
The left ostracizes the minority of smart, objective leftists
A lot of Finnish immigrants in Americans also went to Russia to "build socialism" and only to be executed as class enemies. By 1940 there was only one of the leaders of the Red Guard and original Finnish "red mutiny" alive.
He musta lost a metric fuckton of faith in leftism, considering this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwell's_list
Communists in the know consider Orwell a traitor, he's basically a prophet of what's wrong with leftism
*1941 with Antikainen having killed himself.
I'm actually curious...uhh what communities of Germans were in the USSR at the time?
Basically every non-Russian minority had mass executions for imaginary "white bandit" or "fascist" infiltrators.
yeah it's kinda ironic how the USSR de-facto defaulted to Russian ethnochauvinism out of pragmatism
I remember Russia got a lot of immigrants during Czarina Catherine.
Yep we're on the same wavelength
If USSR was "nationalist", it was "nationalist" like Israel is "nationalist".
I feel like as I said it may have been sheer pragmatism because the people more likely to oppose the regime were non-ethnic Russians
hence I say de-facto
I get it.
To be frank though most eastern block nationalism, whilst it could be technically described as such, was seriously unhealthy and neurotic - less bad than ethnically displacing your people with migrants, sure, but it always seemed mental
Communists even do nationalism wrong
Nazbols always jump to their defense "woah man the USSR kept out multiculturalism" yeah because there was zero incentive for large amounts of non-white immigrants to go to closed economic societies
they stayed homogenous incidentally
Stalin made enemies of all nationalists while Hitler made them his friends. Israel is held by some retards as an example of nationalism, when it's the worst possible example, it is basically universally hated by other nationalists because of their endless jewish chauvinism that makes coexistence impossible.
People will say woah Israel sent weapons to Rhodesia and South Africa under apartheid
yeah and they kept sending shit to the regimes that replaced them
it was just because they didn't give a fuck and wanted to make money in spite of sanctions
"It's really amazing how they survive against all those hostile nations like the crushed slice of occupied Palestine with tens of billions of dollars and newest American high tech."
Crazy how nature do that
"Israel is protecting us from terrorism by shooting hellfire missiles at rock throwers. God Bless Israel!"
yeah it makes zero sense Israeli policy has no effect on terrorism in the west
It's actually just shallow "hahah they kill Muslims Muslims cause us problems" but from a pragmatic perspective there's nothing there
They save Europe by destabilizing Middle East.
It might be just crazy enough to work
This is what Neocohens actually believe.
By the way.
The NKVD order concerning Hitler Youth conspiracy was 8842.
Kek = Praised
Ever see that cringy commercial/ad/w/e with Israel stopping a "Muslim terrorism" boulder from hitting Europe or some shit? rofl
absolute fucking delusion-tier shit
Also, more Finnwank
This guy led a separatist republic inside Bolshevik Russia until it was taken over by Red Army, he went underground and blew up bombs in Russian cities through the 20s until he was captured and executed in Moscow in 1927.
Also dead ringer for Hitler.
Being underground nationalist terrorist anywhere is super hardcore. In Soviet Union? Bin Laden of his time.
According to the Russian wiki he also tried to bomb the Soviet delegation to Genoa Conference, but his agents were arrested by the Fascist police because they were too hardcore.
I love it.
You remember that Tom Metzger/Ben Garrison cartoon wars copypasta?
Refresh my memory, I might
oh you mean when people would edit his cartoons to make them Nazi?
rofl still beautiful
This is basically the same, just replace Metzger with Blackshirt and Garrison with Elfvengren. "Like, I hate commies, I'm down with beating them up and forcefeeding them oil but this guy is just taking it too far."
yeah I getcha
Wasn't Italy the first one to recognize USSR just to be edgy?
Dunno if I've heard of that
Whats up guys?
talking about killing communists
you know typical conversation 🙂
God bless pinochet
OG White RWDS > Pinochet
It was cool that he killed reds but he did essentially give American kikes free hand with Chile.
yeah Pinochet wasn't that great
I agree he had some ties with them but he literally did save Chile from the Red Menace
>The Chicago Boys were a group of Chilean economists prominent around the 1970s and 80s, the majority of whom trained at the Department of Economics of the University of Chicago under Milton Friedman and Arnold Harberger, or at its affiliate in the economics department at the Pontifical Catholic University of Chile.
(((They))) are behind everything.
Latin American communists weren't really that damaging to their own communities to my knowledge on a social level
same could be said about communists in general belonging to non-white groups
If Jews wanted to spread Communism everywhere, why did they get rid of Allende?
Milton Friedman was a kike who is responsible for facilitating globalist economics in USA and the de-industrialization of the entire western world.
What sort of retarded question was that.
If Allende was nationalizing and keeping the wealth of Chile from the hands of (((USA))), it's bad for the jews.
as I said Latin American socialists weren't that terrible
for their own people at least
Commies fighting for self-determination aren't as bad as the kikes trying to establish jewish hegemony through both capitalism and communism.
Like, you know, remember WW2?
Disclaimer: We try to cast a wide net and only very vaguely enforce boundaries on that kind of shit.
But both Heimbach and I consider him an impressive fighter for his people against colonial/imperial aggression.
We try to keep our NazBol low key, but it slips out sometimes.
The one thing I do like about that sorta shit is it confuses communists
like my favorite thing to do with communists "oh dude Stalin was great he was a good Russian nationalist"
yeah yeah Stalin wasn't necessarily that great but it's funny to totally fucking confuse a communist's expectations of you by saying that
You really can't do that here even ironically.
Guevara's book on guerilla warfare was solid.
yeah I know the Finnish context is totally different for 100% understandable reasons
and as I said communist nationalism was usually neurotic and unhealthy
Just like we have a hardcore boner for white RWDS they also worship the Red Guards.
Stalin isn't so hot.
It's always awkward when you're trying to have Hitler fandom and there's a Polish nationalist queering it up.
like look at fucking Maoism, like wtf is up with nationalism that outright destroys the past...wait a minute is Maoism futurism?
I have been interviewed by Polish Falanga and they were totally down with all my stuff.
Newer Polish nationalists are cool. It's more of a WN 1.0 problem.
National Action was also tight with National Rebirth of Poland.
Daniel Sienkiewicz over at Majority Rights fucking hates my guts for being a Hitlercuck.
Yeah I've never really browsed that site.
It's the most cancerific WNtard site going. You're missing out.
I totally bypassed the biodiversity/WN phase.
It's run by some Asian lady and a butthurt anti-Nazi Polish guy.
Finnish Bandito 10/10
I think it would be Bandita for a female idk
Literally all I know about Colin Liddell is he wrote that ironic black genocide article that Spencer is accused of writing and/or endorsing
Doesn't he live in Japan with a Japanese while raging that NS are damaging the movement.
I heard that too
Liddell preaches the virtues of PR centrist cuckoldry to less monthly visitors than DS has comments in one article. Or even IM. Every single post he's ever made centers around raging about being permacucked by popular nazis. Must be high school all over again for him.
Alternative_Right is Liddell I assume
Colin's go kart didn't pull off the alt-right hairpin turn.
He's pathetic enough to stalk YT alt right videos with less than 100 views to countersignal Hitler.
When will they realize this shit won't work
Hopefully the Spencer incident will wake these fuckers up
If he wanted to help the movement he could kill himself.
It basically confirms every fucking thing about how not wanting the Nazi label/symbolism does jack shit to help you
Anglin pinned him when he explained the obvious, that Colin's too old to get millennial post-ironic humor.
And he can't accept the fact that everything's taking off from the exact opposite direction he had been plotting for years.
Perhaps the most hilarious thing is that he lives in the constant agony of being cucked by the fucking dumbest redneck nazi Anglin, he constantly attacks his methods even though DS has 2 million monthly visitors, he has two.
He's pretty much trolling himself at this point.
I was right in the middle of that bullshit, despite having been snubbed by the project from its outset.
Many actually think that this was culmination of our years long meticulous planning and infiltration that caused TRS downfall and we stole their users just as we had always planned and it was the fucking nazis backstabbing muh mubement RREE
I messaged Enoch halfway through the day and told him to immediately cease telling his loyalists to stop spreading easily disconfirmed disinfo. I just couldn't take the wanton disregard for the reputations and self-respect of his own guys.
Their fight with 8/pol was entirely their own doing.
also "fucking nazi virgins if they got laid once in their lifetime they didn't have to larp the SS and race war RRREEEE thanks so fucking much" post had me in tears.
variation of the "haha you want to deport hot muds fucking virgin"
I have never ever even posted in TRS but being in Discord you can't avoid it.
Or even really listened to any of their shows.
I listened to a couple episodes. Who has three hours to listen to an unstructured stream of guys bullshitting?
Our Daily Traditionalist keeps it at a half hour.
Not a big radio guy, too ADHD.
Same here. I produce podcasts, but don't listen.
Fucked that one up with misattributing the killer to an Islamic attacker. The mainstream media was confirming it right and left. Seemed legit.
Earlier today, everybody was saying it was a Muslim-on-Muslim crime. I should've known better.
Oh, the canuck case, right.
Looks like a three-way tie right now.
Lets hope Le Pen Wins
@parrott Clerical fascism, NS or a proud fascismfluid man who won't be labeled?
All that Avalonia stuff is dead and buried, right?
My bedroom is the sovereign micro-nation of Avalon, thankyouverymuch.
you guys want to voice chat?
@Murenu Do you have that "down with communism" pic? Can't remember where I posted it.
moment lemme check
I feel like you ether posted it here or on FB
those are the only places we've regularly spoken recently
I still strongly favor Codreanu and clerical fascism, and the Iron Guard is my prime inspiration. But I really just don't feel like it's likely I'll be positioned to determine precisely how it plays out. It'll likely manifest as some sort of military junta, and I'm totally fine with that. I know clergy can't actually be trusted, and neither can royalty.
Our fascisms also had some really hardcore christian influence, one of the MPs and the leader of the Blackshirt youth was a priest.
So even though I'm NS, I still look to many clerical fascists for inspiration as well.
The lessons learned from Codreanu must also append the lessons learned when Codreanu was viciously betrayed by the clergy and nobility alike. I think a state to my liking could manifest in a variety of different forms.
Agnostic myself but it's hard not to respect the Iron Guard & Codreanu
Something like the Iranian model where you have a democracy with a revolutionary guard lingering over it. Or like China where an inner party quietly runs everything. Or North Korea with Heimbach as Kim Il Sung, perhaps. Don't care.
Once the people have had the spiritual and national awakening, and a vital vanguard emerges to manifest that awakening, a lot of different political systems can achieve the similar end.
I am in favor of Jose Rivera's Fascism of Spain. Founder of Falangism.
which is similar to Iron Guards in a way
I'm weary of command economy crap. I'm more of a Hitlerite and get anxious around fascism which involves a punitive and impractical approach to the market.
I kinda think Mussolini's Corporatist system has merit but economy was never my strong point so I feel like I don't have the right to talk about it much
Investment, risk, and development of industry are to be rewarded and encouraged, without the NazBol classist fantasy of the workers themselves controlling the means of production.
The blue & black is a really nice aesthetic tbh
it's an underused color combo
One thing I always liked about the Lapua movement
btw KU I looked through our FB history as well as this chat's history can't find the image you want
not a biggie
well this is assuming you didn't search it
write "down with communism" in Finnish for me please
Finnish National Socialist also used the dark blue instead of red in armbands and flags, it is aesthetic
The thing is I DO remember you showing me the image, and ye absolutely
If we get banned I'm just gonna start a recolor of NRM ala DA.
Just shit I fooled around with once
Oh yeah, one more thing now that we're talking religious imagery
16th century painting church painting from Finland, Swedish knights torturing Jesus.
Quite prophetic, isn't it?
Supposed to depict Roman soldiers but fuck if a Finnish painter from 500 years ago know what it was like.
I still sometimes ask myself what cultural revolution or thing happened to make Sweden the way it is?
I mean what white guilt are they even exploiting
like how did they manage to be worse than Germany or Britain?
We were eastern block house niggers, we pretended to be a democracy which having the same president for 25 years. We got into this cuckshit only just two decades ago. And thanks to having fought on the right side it's more incriminating to be a communist than a nazi.
Well, maybe not to the state but to the average folk.
I actually meant Sweden not Finland I edited my post
but the info is welcome none-the-less
I know Finland was owned by Russia for a long time, I even own a Finnish tsarist coin
Sweden hasn't had to defend itself against foreign or domestic threats in 300 years. They've gotten complacent.
cool & nice