pilot

Maybe in this universe he actually did become Governor

and then gets assassinated? hmm.

and got shot by the resistance Kennedy style

<:Urban_youth:374715806526865408>

Shieeeeeeeeeeeet

we should bug the High Castle writers for a lore clarification

That airport was based on the modern John F Kennedy Airport

the train is supposed to be the AirTrain shuttle between JFK and Jamaica

> GLR Became the first President of the American Nazi Reich

If only

Interestingly, Rockwell wanted to abandon the swatstika as the symbol of the party and changed the name of it to appeal to the american people

@BasedWhiteGoy he wanted good optics

@Siegefags

Cuck

>American Nazi Reich
>President

hush you\

Where can we read about that? Elsewhere, he talks about how important it is to NOT abandon the swastika.

Are we just using the term "President" because of optics

here comes fevs to ruin my LARPing.

YEs

They had no need for Presidents, but they must have needed regional Governors

Yeah he never wanted to abandon the swastika

He changed the name of the american nazi party to the National Socialist White People's Party

@K Martin I would never ruin larping

😮

Mah Aryan.

the Greater Reich was too large a territory to be ruled only from NY

@BasedWhiteGoy and what was the party flag?

So? What does that have to do with abandoning the swastika?

He specifically writes about why he used it and why it shouldn’t be forsaken

He probably realized if he hadn't used it he would have doubled his reach.

Quite the opposite

WLP was the one who gave GLR shit for it but WLP later said he was wrong about GLR

he talked about how if he hadn't used it, he wouldn't have had ANY reach

he TRIED the good PR route

and it got him NOTHING

was that in TTTW?

He replaced it with a stylized american eagle

(The swatstika)

I will find it 1 sec

I do remember him saying that now

GLR got in a big fight with some of his officers about the swatstika

GLR and WLP were great men, some of our best. But they were still men. and not gods. I don't know of anyone who's an Esoteric Rockwellist.

@Hadrian that's my new religion

We can learn from their successes and missteps

Its great that he said that at one time, but I am telling you, he changed course later on

Proof?

https://books.google.com/books?id=KAU2E4fFC10C&pg=PA137&lpg=PA137&dq=glr+abandon+swastika&source=bl&ots=O_6E7Egee7&sig=xsjycaAhrd8pKfx3m_RAF3zURMQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj336b3qNbXAhXPQ98KHS5cBWoQ6AEIQDAD#v=onepage&q&f=false

I’ve read all his works I’ve never heard of anything like that

@0823409823jsjsdf90723j2340sd Ah I knew it was TTTW. I still can't see why he'd want to change it if not for optics

Firsthand accounts

https://books.google.com/books?id=KAU2E4fFC10C&pg=PA137&lpg=PA137&dq=glr+abandon+swastika&source=bl&ots=O_6E7Egee7&sig=xsjycaAhrd8pKfx3m_RAF3zURMQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj336b3qNbXAhXPQ98KHS5cBWoQ6AEIQDAD#v=onepage&q&f=false

I can think of another reason besides optics

Well he certainly never mentioned it in White Power or TTTW

It happened pretty shortly before his death, I believe

Same reason the Third Reich didn't use any of the old flags. They wanted to break from the past and create a new symbol that could unite the people without the baggage of the past

And White Power was written around that time

if he didn't mention it in White Power, I doubt the veracity of that

So if he didn't mention it himself it didn't happen? Despite it being corroborated by firsthand account?

accounts

cmon man

WLP said the opposite though

White Power is one of the most red pilling books out there.

He said they tried to convince Rockwell to cuck but he didn’t and in the end Rockwell was right

Who is the author of the book anyways

"Frederick James Simonelli"

Who is that

the eternal Italian

Mama mia

I believe WLP over whoever that guy is

Anybody heard of one of our groups called war?

frederick j simonelli

War skins?

Is the author of the book

@dumbgrunt Terrible Tommy's group?

Just war

as in W.A.R.?

Yeah I dont know who that is

White Aryan Resistance?

I find it odd WLP said the opposite

Let me find where he said it

Well GLR may have changed his mind

It was quoted in siege

:readsiege:

Idk a guy on Xbox asked 2nd of my gamertag

*bc of

>believing some random Italian over GLR himself and WLP

@0823409823jsjsdf90723j2340sd @⚡The-Chronic☀ Either of you have the quote from GLR that ends "In the sign of the swastika, conquer!"

It’s the word of one man over the consistency of GLRs life and WLPs word

He is a history professor. And you think theres no chance he changed his mind? Seems like you are being too charitable to him

I’ll side with the latter

(((History professor)))

I believe it was from "In Hoc Signo Vinces"

found it

I think that the KKK was a way better example of how to organize in the US than any iteration of national socialist party's. And yea, I have read GLR's works.

Listened to a lot of his speeches too

Which Klan?

That's important.

The klan during the reconstruction era

The First Klan was kino

literally

Black Legion was the best

They struck fear in to their enemies very efficiently

Second Klan tried "American Nationalism", and failed miserably

Black Legion gunned down feds

Literally the most influential work of cinema, period, was a Klan propaganda piece

"Birth of a Nation"

Aren't we literally a National Socialist Party?

@Hadrian I thought we were pseudo-Marxists with bad optics?

Yes

The Klan did not fail miserably until like 4-5 decades ago. The Klan of the reconstruction era was really fucking based

And I am vanguard america, but I like TWP a lot. Good people. I don't think that TWP or any modern group could claim the success of the Klan though

The Klan had over a million members at its peak, I believe

Didn't do 'em much good

Yes it did dude. The Klan had a lot of influence in the south even during the civil rights era. People were scared shitless of the klan

Correction: TWP can't claim that level of success *yet*

Well I want it and all NF groups to claim that level of success, obviously. That is why I am a member of an NF group

yeah, I like VA

I've endorsed TWP, VA and LotS whenever anyone asks me

Same. I definitely think those will be the 3 groups that stand the test of time as things progress. VA's biggest issue is the constant splintering

Yeah they've had leadership issues, but I still like what they stand for

Yea. Its also hard to pull everyone together with this gay optics divide still looming over head

Heimbach said it the best

Our people suffer massive sounds every day, from hundreds of deaths from abortion, to dozens of opiate overdoses, to thousands of people who have their homes foreclosed on

If your biggest concern is what color shirt we are wearing when speaking out against all of that, you are missing the bigger picture

I agree completely

I think VA is a great organization for NF's younger members, the more edgy members that maybe were too extreme for IE

Or not rich enough for them

VA is taking on a more militant aesthetic soon. We are working on it. And yea IE is really fucking themselves over with their snobbery

We get a lot of their defectors

hey guise

Yeah, I've noticed that and I like it

stop saying hail victory

iz bad optiks

the language of larpers isn't allowed here, even though our symbol is pagan

The TWP crowd tends to be a little older, past college age and with blue collar jobs

Hey guys, we don't want to look like slobs and white trash.

>Has leader that got dishonorable discharge for mugging

mfw

lol

I'm proud to be white trash

I am just trolling

We're now replacing "Hail Victory" with "God bless the USA" @The Inquisitor [☧]

How is that?

They are such snobs when their leader literally got an oth discharge for mugging a paki in iraq

@Fevs Great optics

@BasedWhiteGoy Is it still a paki if it's in iraq

I don't think that's how that works

No, just using shorthand tho

Wait I thought the paki was a taxi driver in California

Can we also do the pledge of allegiance before every rally?

I thought it happened overseas, maybe I am wrong tho

>shorthand
you could've just replaced "paki in iraq" with "iraqi" and it would've been shorter

fucking retard

alright nigger fuck off

❤

Yeah it was in Cali tho

That's what I thought

he mugged a cab driver and said it was PTSD

alright. i don't remember the exact details. just that he got an oth discharge for it

Even IE realized he was bad optics tbh

IE has yet to elevate the one true leader

Richard ThSpencer

(pbuh)

Rithard Thpenther

RiThard ThpenTher

It is pretty based that his mom translated dugin's works

But that is about it

Wait

What

His mom translated Dugin's works to english, I believe

Dicky's? That's his wife.

And Dugin is *not* "based".

Wait, I thought TWP was Nazbol.

jk

@Fevs The Second Klan had the best optics

We should unironically resurrect cross burnings as a form of intimidation (FBI plz no bully)

Its not intimidation

Its a symbol of our Christian pride

Jfc, how did I not notice the TheSemiteStuff rebrand? This shit is so gay.

I know what its original meaning is

Was used by the celts to rally different tribes for war

But it can take on a new meaning, too

The fact that the best places to do it are in front of black houses and synegogues is just a coincidence

You wouldn't want to accidentally set a tree on fire or something

@The Inquisitor [☧] I think that banner started as a joke

> Tfw the klan in the 20s could march correctly but we still fuck it up somehow

I think we should literally try to do like 100 cross burnings across the US all on the same night

In front of meaningful places like the SPLC HQ

Would scare our enemies shitless

At least the Klan new how to spell their name on the shields

F

F

F

Granted they only needed one letter\

Trad Worer fuckin up again

You’re in Vanguard right?

Yea

Is Vanguard American nationalists or what

no nigga

We counter signalled that shit a while ago

Fascist my dude

They SIEGEpilled now

Do you want to uproot America or go back to some point in time

We always were siegepilled my nigger, we started on ironmarch

No lol

>this narrative

I still fly my Vanguard flag in my room lol

Vanguard was btfo’d off IM

I was in VA when it first started

I remember that bread

the original VA was started on ironmarch, I believe. And do you want my position or do you want VA"s official position?

good times

Dillon was like "we've totally changed, guys!"

VA was formed from IM members but turned into a soft NA that pr ducked

Cucked

Look at the original Vanguard thread

I would be interested in reading that sometime. Will try to find it.

Thomas also always counter signaled anything siege

> That feel when Dillion came up to me after Sville and called me a traitor in a "joking not joking" kind of way.

I actually felt bad, Dillion is a hard ass, but an all around good guy

He hasn’t even read Mein Kampf

And yea we don't really PR cuck anymore, that was Thomas. Dillon is back now nibber

How are you going to claim to be fascist yet you don’t know anything about the fascist worldview

Makes no sense

Yea making Thomas our fill in leader when Dillon was gone was a big mistake. He is a narcissist

Dillon was a bit of a bigtentist once, but got over that

VA still sort of is big tent, we don't require our members to be NS, but our official position is NS

Fagtriot Front surrounding that one commie event was a good show, tho

Now nibbas need to digest the Universal Order pill

@0823409823jsjsdf90723j2340sd >not taking the ATWA pill

We basically say "You can be something other than NS, but you speak for yourself, you don't speak for VA if you aren't NS"

Yeah patriotfag had one good event, and nonse since.

Also all our leadership is NS

It is basically a requirement

To be anything other than rank and file

yea PF has a good strategy though

Metzger said it best

With the numbers we had at cville, we should have confronted our enemies

Not done our own rally

Imagine 1,500 of us at a pride rally, we could have probably bullied them off the streets and shut the whole fucking thing down

Instead cville was a shitshow

Nice Guy National Socialism fails again

Did Dillon change his mind?

Cville was a shitshow because of the alt-right

About what?

The Spencers and Damigos made it a mess

Last time I talked to him he held that going back to an earlier point in America was the way to go