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2017-11-24 03:53:30 UTC


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Maybe in this universe he actually did become Governor

2017-11-24 03:54:17 UTC

and then gets assassinated? hmm.

2017-11-24 03:54:23 UTC

and got shot by the resistance Kennedy style

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we should bug the High Castle writers for a lore clarification

2017-11-24 03:55:04 UTC

That airport was based on the modern John F Kennedy Airport

2017-11-24 03:55:34 UTC

the train is supposed to be the AirTrain shuttle between JFK and Jamaica

2017-11-24 03:55:46 UTC

> GLR Became the first President of the American Nazi Reich

2017-11-24 03:55:57 UTC

If only

2017-11-24 03:55:57 UTC

Interestingly, Rockwell wanted to abandon the swatstika as the symbol of the party and changed the name of it to appeal to the american people

2017-11-24 03:56:05 UTC

@BasedWhiteGoy he wanted good optics

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>American Nazi Reich

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hush you\

2017-11-24 03:56:34 UTC

Where can we read about that? Elsewhere, he talks about how important it is to NOT abandon the swastika.

2017-11-24 03:56:39 UTC

Are we just using the term "President" because of optics

2017-11-24 03:56:46 UTC

here comes fevs to ruin my LARPing.

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They had no need for Presidents, but they must have needed regional Governors

2017-11-24 03:56:55 UTC

Yeah he never wanted to abandon the swastika

2017-11-24 03:57:00 UTC

He changed the name of the american nazi party to the National Socialist White People's Party

2017-11-24 03:57:05 UTC

@K Martin I would never ruin larping

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Mah Aryan.

2017-11-24 03:57:15 UTC

the Greater Reich was too large a territory to be ruled only from NY

2017-11-24 03:57:16 UTC

@BasedWhiteGoy and what was the party flag?

2017-11-24 03:57:29 UTC

So? What does that have to do with abandoning the swastika?

2017-11-24 03:57:42 UTC

He specifically writes about why he used it and why it shouldn’t be forsaken

2017-11-24 03:57:59 UTC

He probably realized if he hadn't used it he would have doubled his reach.

2017-11-24 03:58:08 UTC

Quite the opposite

2017-11-24 03:58:15 UTC

WLP was the one who gave GLR shit for it but WLP later said he was wrong about GLR

2017-11-24 03:58:18 UTC

he talked about how if he hadn't used it, he wouldn't have had ANY reach

2017-11-24 03:58:27 UTC

he TRIED the good PR route

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and it got him NOTHING

2017-11-24 03:58:34 UTC

was that in TTTW?

2017-11-24 03:58:45 UTC

He replaced it with a stylized american eagle

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(The swatstika)

2017-11-24 03:58:52 UTC

I will find it 1 sec

2017-11-24 03:59:06 UTC

I do remember him saying that now

2017-11-24 03:59:39 UTC

GLR got in a big fight with some of his officers about the swatstika

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2017-11-24 03:59:44 UTC

GLR and WLP were great men, some of our best. But they were still men. and not gods. I don't know of anyone who's an Esoteric Rockwellist.

2017-11-24 03:59:57 UTC

@Hadrian that's my new religion

2017-11-24 04:00:00 UTC

We can learn from their successes and missteps

2017-11-24 04:00:10 UTC

Its great that he said that at one time, but I am telling you, he changed course later on

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2017-11-24 04:00:31 UTC

I’ve read all his works I’ve never heard of anything like that

2017-11-24 04:00:33 UTC

@0823409823jsjsdf90723j2340sd Ah I knew it was TTTW. I still can't see why he'd want to change it if not for optics

2017-11-24 04:00:36 UTC

Firsthand accounts

2017-11-24 04:01:05 UTC

I can think of another reason besides optics

2017-11-24 04:01:26 UTC

Well he certainly never mentioned it in White Power or TTTW

2017-11-24 04:01:36 UTC

It happened pretty shortly before his death, I believe

2017-11-24 04:01:37 UTC

Same reason the Third Reich didn't use any of the old flags. They wanted to break from the past and create a new symbol that could unite the people without the baggage of the past

2017-11-24 04:01:37 UTC

And White Power was written around that time

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if he didn't mention it in White Power, I doubt the veracity of that

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So if he didn't mention it himself it didn't happen? Despite it being corroborated by firsthand account?

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cmon man

2017-11-24 04:02:38 UTC

WLP said the opposite though

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White Power is one of the most red pilling books out there.

2017-11-24 04:02:55 UTC

He said they tried to convince Rockwell to cuck but he didn’t and in the end Rockwell was right

2017-11-24 04:03:14 UTC

Who is the author of the book anyways

2017-11-24 04:03:24 UTC

"Frederick James Simonelli"

2017-11-24 04:03:27 UTC

Who is that

2017-11-24 04:03:29 UTC

the eternal Italian

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Mama mia

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I believe WLP over whoever that guy is

2017-11-24 04:03:48 UTC

Anybody heard of one of our groups called war?

2017-11-24 04:03:51 UTC

frederick j simonelli

2017-11-24 04:03:55 UTC

War skins?

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Is the author of the book

2017-11-24 04:03:58 UTC

@dumbgrunt Terrible Tommy's group?

2017-11-24 04:04:05 UTC

Just war

2017-11-24 04:04:12 UTC

as in W.A.R.?

2017-11-24 04:04:12 UTC

Yeah I dont know who that is

2017-11-24 04:04:16 UTC

White Aryan Resistance?

2017-11-24 04:04:23 UTC

I find it odd WLP said the opposite

2017-11-24 04:04:34 UTC

Let me find where he said it

2017-11-24 04:04:40 UTC

Well GLR may have changed his mind

2017-11-24 04:04:44 UTC

It was quoted in siege

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Idk a guy on Xbox asked 2nd of my gamertag

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*bc of

2017-11-24 04:05:19 UTC

>believing some random Italian over GLR himself and WLP

2017-11-24 04:06:31 UTC

@0823409823jsjsdf90723j2340sd @⚡The-Chronic☀ Either of you have the quote from GLR that ends "In the sign of the swastika, conquer!"

2017-11-24 04:06:32 UTC

It’s the word of one man over the consistency of GLRs life and WLPs word

2017-11-24 04:06:37 UTC

He is a history professor. And you think theres no chance he changed his mind? Seems like you are being too charitable to him

2017-11-24 04:06:43 UTC

I’ll side with the latter

2017-11-24 04:06:48 UTC

(((History professor)))

2017-11-24 04:06:56 UTC

I believe it was from "In Hoc Signo Vinces"

2017-11-24 04:07:33 UTC

found it


2017-11-24 04:08:29 UTC

I think that the KKK was a way better example of how to organize in the US than any iteration of national socialist party's. And yea, I have read GLR's works.

2017-11-24 04:08:47 UTC

Listened to a lot of his speeches too

2017-11-24 04:08:47 UTC

Which Klan?

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That's important.

2017-11-24 04:09:01 UTC

The klan during the reconstruction era

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The First Klan was kino

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Black Legion was the best

2017-11-24 04:09:26 UTC

They struck fear in to their enemies very efficiently

2017-11-24 04:09:29 UTC

Second Klan tried "American Nationalism", and failed miserably

2017-11-24 04:09:40 UTC

Black Legion gunned down feds

2017-11-24 04:09:56 UTC

Literally the most influential work of cinema, period, was a Klan propaganda piece

2017-11-24 04:10:00 UTC

"Birth of a Nation"

2017-11-24 04:10:03 UTC

Aren't we literally a National Socialist Party?

2017-11-24 04:10:19 UTC

@Hadrian I thought we were pseudo-Marxists with bad optics?

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2017-11-24 04:10:44 UTC

The Klan did not fail miserably until like 4-5 decades ago. The Klan of the reconstruction era was really fucking based

2017-11-24 04:11:26 UTC

And I am vanguard america, but I like TWP a lot. Good people. I don't think that TWP or any modern group could claim the success of the Klan though

2017-11-24 04:11:34 UTC

The Klan had over a million members at its peak, I believe

2017-11-24 04:11:51 UTC

Didn't do 'em much good

2017-11-24 04:12:20 UTC

Yes it did dude. The Klan had a lot of influence in the south even during the civil rights era. People were scared shitless of the klan

2017-11-24 04:13:01 UTC

Correction: TWP can't claim that level of success *yet*

2017-11-24 04:13:37 UTC

Well I want it and all NF groups to claim that level of success, obviously. That is why I am a member of an NF group

2017-11-24 04:14:12 UTC

yeah, I like VA

2017-11-24 04:14:57 UTC

I've endorsed TWP, VA and LotS whenever anyone asks me

2017-11-24 04:15:43 UTC

Same. I definitely think those will be the 3 groups that stand the test of time as things progress. VA's biggest issue is the constant splintering

2017-11-24 04:16:46 UTC

Yeah they've had leadership issues, but I still like what they stand for

2017-11-24 04:17:32 UTC

Yea. Its also hard to pull everyone together with this gay optics divide still looming over head

2017-11-24 04:17:38 UTC

Heimbach said it the best

2017-11-24 04:18:03 UTC

Our people suffer massive sounds every day, from hundreds of deaths from abortion, to dozens of opiate overdoses, to thousands of people who have their homes foreclosed on

2017-11-24 04:18:17 UTC

If your biggest concern is what color shirt we are wearing when speaking out against all of that, you are missing the bigger picture

2017-11-24 04:18:31 UTC

I agree completely

2017-11-24 04:19:12 UTC

I think VA is a great organization for NF's younger members, the more edgy members that maybe were too extreme for IE

2017-11-24 04:19:25 UTC

Or not rich enough for them

2017-11-24 04:19:54 UTC

VA is taking on a more militant aesthetic soon. We are working on it. And yea IE is really fucking themselves over with their snobbery

2017-11-24 04:20:02 UTC

We get a lot of their defectors

2017-11-24 04:20:04 UTC

hey guise

2017-11-24 04:20:05 UTC

Yeah, I've noticed that and I like it

2017-11-24 04:20:09 UTC

stop saying hail victory

2017-11-24 04:20:12 UTC

iz bad optiks

2017-11-24 04:20:59 UTC

the language of larpers isn't allowed here, even though our symbol is pagan

2017-11-24 04:21:00 UTC

The TWP crowd tends to be a little older, past college age and with blue collar jobs

2017-11-24 04:21:50 UTC

Hey guys, we don't want to look like slobs and white trash.

2017-11-24 04:21:59 UTC

>Has leader that got dishonorable discharge for mugging

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I'm proud to be white trash

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I am just trolling

2017-11-24 04:22:39 UTC

We're now replacing "Hail Victory" with "God bless the USA" @The Inquisitor [☧]

2017-11-24 04:22:41 UTC

How is that?

2017-11-24 04:22:46 UTC

They are such snobs when their leader literally got an oth discharge for mugging a paki in iraq

2017-11-24 04:23:09 UTC

@Fevs Great optics

2017-11-24 04:23:15 UTC

@BasedWhiteGoy Is it still a paki if it's in iraq

2017-11-24 04:23:19 UTC

I don't think that's how that works

2017-11-24 04:23:29 UTC

No, just using shorthand tho

2017-11-24 04:23:41 UTC

Wait I thought the paki was a taxi driver in California

2017-11-24 04:23:50 UTC

Can we also do the pledge of allegiance before every rally?

2017-11-24 04:24:02 UTC

I thought it happened overseas, maybe I am wrong tho

2017-11-24 04:24:13 UTC

you could've just replaced "paki in iraq" with "iraqi" and it would've been shorter

2017-11-24 04:24:17 UTC

fucking retard

2017-11-24 04:24:20 UTC

alright nigger fuck off

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Yeah it was in Cali tho

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That's what I thought

2017-11-24 04:25:00 UTC

he mugged a cab driver and said it was PTSD

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alright. i don't remember the exact details. just that he got an oth discharge for it

2017-11-24 04:25:19 UTC

Even IE realized he was bad optics tbh

2017-11-24 04:25:34 UTC

IE has yet to elevate the one true leader

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Richard ThSpencer

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Rithard Thpenther

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RiThard ThpenTher

2017-11-24 04:27:25 UTC

It is pretty based that his mom translated dugin's works

2017-11-24 04:27:30 UTC

But that is about it

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His mom translated Dugin's works to english, I believe

2017-11-24 04:28:29 UTC

Dicky's? That's his wife.

2017-11-24 04:28:40 UTC

And Dugin is *not* "based".

2017-11-24 04:29:10 UTC

Wait, I thought TWP was Nazbol.

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@Fevs The Second Klan had the best optics





2017-11-24 04:30:11 UTC

We should unironically resurrect cross burnings as a form of intimidation (FBI plz no bully)

2017-11-24 04:31:19 UTC

Its not intimidation

2017-11-24 04:31:24 UTC

Its a symbol of our Christian pride

2017-11-24 04:31:28 UTC

Jfc, how did I not notice the TheSemiteStuff rebrand? This shit is so gay.


2017-11-24 04:31:31 UTC

I know what its original meaning is

2017-11-24 04:31:42 UTC

Was used by the celts to rally different tribes for war

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But it can take on a new meaning, too

2017-11-24 04:32:00 UTC

The fact that the best places to do it are in front of black houses and synegogues is just a coincidence

2017-11-24 04:32:17 UTC

You wouldn't want to accidentally set a tree on fire or something

2017-11-24 04:32:53 UTC

@The Inquisitor [☧] I think that banner started as a joke

2017-11-24 04:33:08 UTC

> Tfw the klan in the 20s could march correctly but we still fuck it up somehow

2017-11-24 04:33:13 UTC

I think we should literally try to do like 100 cross burnings across the US all on the same night

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In front of meaningful places like the SPLC HQ

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Would scare our enemies shitless

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At least the Klan new how to spell their name on the shields

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Granted they only needed one letter\

2017-11-24 04:33:53 UTC

Trad Worer fuckin up again

2017-11-24 04:33:58 UTC

You’re in Vanguard right?

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Is Vanguard American nationalists or what

2017-11-24 04:34:12 UTC

no nigga

2017-11-24 04:34:16 UTC

We counter signalled that shit a while ago

2017-11-24 04:34:21 UTC

Fascist my dude

2017-11-24 04:34:28 UTC

They SIEGEpilled now

2017-11-24 04:34:35 UTC

Do you want to uproot America or go back to some point in time

2017-11-24 04:34:37 UTC

We always were siegepilled my nigger, we started on ironmarch

2017-11-24 04:34:44 UTC

No lol

2017-11-24 04:34:45 UTC

>this narrative

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I still fly my Vanguard flag in my room lol

2017-11-24 04:35:13 UTC

Vanguard was btfo’d off IM

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I was in VA when it first started

2017-11-24 04:35:24 UTC

I remember that bread

2017-11-24 04:35:24 UTC

the original VA was started on ironmarch, I believe. And do you want my position or do you want VA"s official position?

2017-11-24 04:35:26 UTC

good times

2017-11-24 04:35:40 UTC

Dillon was like "we've totally changed, guys!"

2017-11-24 04:35:45 UTC

VA was formed from IM members but turned into a soft NA that pr ducked

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Look at the original Vanguard thread

2017-11-24 04:36:21 UTC

I would be interested in reading that sometime. Will try to find it.

2017-11-24 04:36:34 UTC

Thomas also always counter signaled anything siege

2017-11-24 04:36:36 UTC

> That feel when Dillion came up to me after Sville and called me a traitor in a "joking not joking" kind of way.

I actually felt bad, Dillion is a hard ass, but an all around good guy

2017-11-24 04:36:41 UTC

He hasn’t even read Mein Kampf

2017-11-24 04:36:45 UTC

And yea we don't really PR cuck anymore, that was Thomas. Dillon is back now nibber

2017-11-24 04:37:00 UTC

How are you going to claim to be fascist yet you don’t know anything about the fascist worldview

2017-11-24 04:37:02 UTC

Makes no sense

2017-11-24 04:37:28 UTC

Yea making Thomas our fill in leader when Dillon was gone was a big mistake. He is a narcissist

2017-11-24 04:37:37 UTC

Dillon was a bit of a bigtentist once, but got over that

2017-11-24 04:37:54 UTC

VA still sort of is big tent, we don't require our members to be NS, but our official position is NS

2017-11-24 04:37:58 UTC

Fagtriot Front surrounding that one commie event was a good show, tho

2017-11-24 04:38:02 UTC

Now nibbas need to digest the Universal Order pill

2017-11-24 04:38:12 UTC

@0823409823jsjsdf90723j2340sd >not taking the ATWA pill

2017-11-24 04:38:29 UTC

We basically say "You can be something other than NS, but you speak for yourself, you don't speak for VA if you aren't NS"

2017-11-24 04:38:31 UTC

Yeah patriotfag had one good event, and nonse since.

2017-11-24 04:38:57 UTC

Also all our leadership is NS

2017-11-24 04:38:59 UTC

It is basically a requirement

2017-11-24 04:39:06 UTC

To be anything other than rank and file

2017-11-24 04:39:24 UTC

yea PF has a good strategy though

2017-11-24 04:39:28 UTC

Metzger said it best

2017-11-24 04:39:43 UTC

With the numbers we had at cville, we should have confronted our enemies

2017-11-24 04:39:46 UTC

Not done our own rally

2017-11-24 04:40:11 UTC

Imagine 1,500 of us at a pride rally, we could have probably bullied them off the streets and shut the whole fucking thing down

2017-11-24 04:40:20 UTC

Instead cville was a shitshow

2017-11-24 04:40:53 UTC

Nice Guy National Socialism fails again

2017-11-24 04:41:28 UTC

Did Dillon change his mind?

2017-11-24 04:41:32 UTC

Cville was a shitshow because of the alt-right

2017-11-24 04:41:32 UTC

About what?

2017-11-24 04:41:42 UTC

The Spencers and Damigos made it a mess

2017-11-24 04:42:01 UTC

Last time I talked to him he held that going back to an earlier point in America was the way to go

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