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Maybe in this universe he actually did become Governor
and then gets assassinated? hmm.
and got shot by the resistance Kennedy style
we should bug the High Castle writers for a lore clarification
That airport was based on the modern John F Kennedy Airport
the train is supposed to be the AirTrain shuttle between JFK and Jamaica
> GLR Became the first President of the American Nazi Reich
Interestingly, Rockwell wanted to abandon the swatstika as the symbol of the party and changed the name of it to appeal to the american people
>American Nazi Reich
Where can we read about that? Elsewhere, he talks about how important it is to NOT abandon the swastika.
Are we just using the term "President" because of optics
here comes fevs to ruin my LARPing.
They had no need for Presidents, but they must have needed regional Governors
Yeah he never wanted to abandon the swastika
He changed the name of the american nazi party to the National Socialist White People's Party
the Greater Reich was too large a territory to be ruled only from NY
So? What does that have to do with abandoning the swastika?
He specifically writes about why he used it and why it shouldn’t be forsaken
He probably realized if he hadn't used it he would have doubled his reach.
Quite the opposite
WLP was the one who gave GLR shit for it but WLP later said he was wrong about GLR
he talked about how if he hadn't used it, he wouldn't have had ANY reach
he TRIED the good PR route
and it got him NOTHING
was that in TTTW?
He replaced it with a stylized american eagle
I will find it 1 sec
I do remember him saying that now
GLR got in a big fight with some of his officers about the swatstika
GLR and WLP were great men, some of our best. But they were still men. and not gods. I don't know of anyone who's an Esoteric Rockwellist.
We can learn from their successes and missteps
Its great that he said that at one time, but I am telling you, he changed course later on
I’ve read all his works I’ve never heard of anything like that
@0823409823jsjsdf90723j2340sd Ah I knew it was TTTW. I still can't see why he'd want to change it if not for optics
I can think of another reason besides optics
Well he certainly never mentioned it in White Power or TTTW
It happened pretty shortly before his death, I believe
Same reason the Third Reich didn't use any of the old flags. They wanted to break from the past and create a new symbol that could unite the people without the baggage of the past
And White Power was written around that time
if he didn't mention it in White Power, I doubt the veracity of that
So if he didn't mention it himself it didn't happen? Despite it being corroborated by firsthand account?
WLP said the opposite though
White Power is one of the most red pilling books out there.
He said they tried to convince Rockwell to cuck but he didn’t and in the end Rockwell was right
Who is the author of the book anyways
"Frederick James Simonelli"
Who is that
the eternal Italian
I believe WLP over whoever that guy is
Anybody heard of one of our groups called war?
frederick j simonelli
Is the author of the book
as in W.A.R.?
Yeah I dont know who that is
White Aryan Resistance?
I find it odd WLP said the opposite
Let me find where he said it
Well GLR may have changed his mind
It was quoted in siege
Idk a guy on Xbox asked 2nd of my gamertag
>believing some random Italian over GLR himself and WLP
It’s the word of one man over the consistency of GLRs life and WLPs word
He is a history professor. And you think theres no chance he changed his mind? Seems like you are being too charitable to him
I’ll side with the latter
I believe it was from "In Hoc Signo Vinces"
I think that the KKK was a way better example of how to organize in the US than any iteration of national socialist party's. And yea, I have read GLR's works.
Listened to a lot of his speeches too
The klan during the reconstruction era
The First Klan was kino
Black Legion was the best
They struck fear in to their enemies very efficiently
Second Klan tried "American Nationalism", and failed miserably
Black Legion gunned down feds
Literally the most influential work of cinema, period, was a Klan propaganda piece
"Birth of a Nation"
Aren't we literally a National Socialist Party?
@Hadrian I thought we were pseudo-Marxists with bad optics?
The Klan did not fail miserably until like 4-5 decades ago. The Klan of the reconstruction era was really fucking based
And I am vanguard america, but I like TWP a lot. Good people. I don't think that TWP or any modern group could claim the success of the Klan though
The Klan had over a million members at its peak, I believe
Didn't do 'em much good
Yes it did dude. The Klan had a lot of influence in the south even during the civil rights era. People were scared shitless of the klan
Correction: TWP can't claim that level of success *yet*
Well I want it and all NF groups to claim that level of success, obviously. That is why I am a member of an NF group
yeah, I like VA
I've endorsed TWP, VA and LotS whenever anyone asks me
Same. I definitely think those will be the 3 groups that stand the test of time as things progress. VA's biggest issue is the constant splintering
Yeah they've had leadership issues, but I still like what they stand for
Yea. Its also hard to pull everyone together with this gay optics divide still looming over head
Heimbach said it the best
Our people suffer massive sounds every day, from hundreds of deaths from abortion, to dozens of opiate overdoses, to thousands of people who have their homes foreclosed on
If your biggest concern is what color shirt we are wearing when speaking out against all of that, you are missing the bigger picture
I agree completely
I think VA is a great organization for NF's younger members, the more edgy members that maybe were too extreme for IE
Or not rich enough for them
VA is taking on a more militant aesthetic soon. We are working on it. And yea IE is really fucking themselves over with their snobbery
We get a lot of their defectors
Yeah, I've noticed that and I like it
stop saying hail victory
iz bad optiks
the language of larpers isn't allowed here, even though our symbol is pagan
The TWP crowd tends to be a little older, past college age and with blue collar jobs
Hey guys, we don't want to look like slobs and white trash.
>Has leader that got dishonorable discharge for mugging
I'm proud to be white trash
I am just trolling
We're now replacing "Hail Victory" with "God bless the USA" @The Inquisitor [☧]
How is that?
They are such snobs when their leader literally got an oth discharge for mugging a paki in iraq
I don't think that's how that works
No, just using shorthand tho
Wait I thought the paki was a taxi driver in California
Can we also do the pledge of allegiance before every rally?
I thought it happened overseas, maybe I am wrong tho
you could've just replaced "paki in iraq" with "iraqi" and it would've been shorter
alright nigger fuck off
Yeah it was in Cali tho
That's what I thought
he mugged a cab driver and said it was PTSD
alright. i don't remember the exact details. just that he got an oth discharge for it
Even IE realized he was bad optics tbh
IE has yet to elevate the one true leader
It is pretty based that his mom translated dugin's works
But that is about it
His mom translated Dugin's works to english, I believe
Dicky's? That's his wife.
And Dugin is *not* "based".
Wait, I thought TWP was Nazbol.
We should unironically resurrect cross burnings as a form of intimidation (FBI plz no bully)
Its not intimidation
Its a symbol of our Christian pride
Jfc, how did I not notice the TheSemiteStuff rebrand? This shit is so gay.
I know what its original meaning is
Was used by the celts to rally different tribes for war
But it can take on a new meaning, too
The fact that the best places to do it are in front of black houses and synegogues is just a coincidence
You wouldn't want to accidentally set a tree on fire or something
> Tfw the klan in the 20s could march correctly but we still fuck it up somehow
I think we should literally try to do like 100 cross burnings across the US all on the same night
In front of meaningful places like the SPLC HQ
Would scare our enemies shitless
At least the Klan new how to spell their name on the shields
Granted they only needed one letter\
Trad Worer fuckin up again
You’re in Vanguard right?
Is Vanguard American nationalists or what
We counter signalled that shit a while ago
Fascist my dude
They SIEGEpilled now
Do you want to uproot America or go back to some point in time
We always were siegepilled my nigger, we started on ironmarch
I still fly my Vanguard flag in my room lol
Vanguard was btfo’d off IM
I was in VA when it first started
I remember that bread
the original VA was started on ironmarch, I believe. And do you want my position or do you want VA"s official position?
Dillon was like "we've totally changed, guys!"
VA was formed from IM members but turned into a soft NA that pr ducked
Look at the original Vanguard thread
I would be interested in reading that sometime. Will try to find it.
Thomas also always counter signaled anything siege
> That feel when Dillion came up to me after Sville and called me a traitor in a "joking not joking" kind of way.
I actually felt bad, Dillion is a hard ass, but an all around good guy
He hasn’t even read Mein Kampf
And yea we don't really PR cuck anymore, that was Thomas. Dillon is back now nibber
How are you going to claim to be fascist yet you don’t know anything about the fascist worldview
Makes no sense
Yea making Thomas our fill in leader when Dillon was gone was a big mistake. He is a narcissist
Dillon was a bit of a bigtentist once, but got over that
VA still sort of is big tent, we don't require our members to be NS, but our official position is NS
Fagtriot Front surrounding that one commie event was a good show, tho
Now nibbas need to digest the Universal Order pill
We basically say "You can be something other than NS, but you speak for yourself, you don't speak for VA if you aren't NS"
Yeah patriotfag had one good event, and nonse since.
Also all our leadership is NS
It is basically a requirement
To be anything other than rank and file
yea PF has a good strategy though
Metzger said it best
With the numbers we had at cville, we should have confronted our enemies
Not done our own rally
Imagine 1,500 of us at a pride rally, we could have probably bullied them off the streets and shut the whole fucking thing down
Instead cville was a shitshow
Nice Guy National Socialism fails again
Did Dillon change his mind?
Cville was a shitshow because of the alt-right
The Spencers and Damigos made it a mess
Last time I talked to him he held that going back to an earlier point in America was the way to go