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Are theyre hetero furries? Honest question
are you an esoteric hitlerist, do you worship a symbol?
It's a symbol of our beliefs
if not, a symbol isn't your belief
I am an Esoteric Hitlerite by the way.
ITS A JOKE PLS NO BULLY
you can change a symbol without changing your beliefs. we are a new movement for a new time, why should we LARP as germans
TWP has a good thing going for it
Ur mom larps as a german
why revert back to swatstikas
You are optics posting right now and you don't even know it
What are you even talking about.
Comparing furries to face tats is non sequitur
And now TWP is reverting back to being German 🤔
If you want to use a different symbol, then do it. But don't tell other people not to use the ones they think fit best
you are advocating for using swatstikas, that is reverting back to larping that was pointless and harmful
Everyone is using larping to describe everything they don't like.
we arent nazi germany, use a new symbol for our movement and our time
Using the term larping is code talk for anti white
Besides, swastika is the ancient symbol of all aryan races, it is sacred, and it is the symbol of our political and spiritual faith, if you don't wish to identify with it, why even do anything.
it is not sacred lol. it is a symbol. there are other pro white symbols. being attached to a symbol is kind of autistic
I love the windmill, thats why i own multiple flags displaying it in my home
It's the sun, it's a huge historical symbol for good
It is sacred to some
Calling people autistic based on what they find sacred is kinda autistic tbh
so what if it is sacred to some? should we allow harm to our movement bc we are afraid to hurt a few autists feeling
The Swastika predates the NSDAP by several thousands of years.
We're not just pro white. We're National Socialist
And why i carve it into a public shitter when im sitting there bored lol ok maybe when I was 14
Swastika is literally sacred, its been a sacred pagan symbol to all Indo Aryans, Finnics, all of us, one symbol connecting all aryans.
Ur moms sacred to some
Christian monasteries have swastikas in them...they need to paint over them, cuz that's just bad optics, I guess.
This server has been just jumping between person to person to bully
Night of the bully posting
lol, it is not sacred, and you are clinging to a symbol that only a thousand or so people will ever identify with in the US while everyone else will be reviled by it
what is more important? clinging to some symbol or winning?
Not cucking is important
"cuck" and "LARPer" have both become meaningless lol.
says the larping cuck
Its sacred to entire Europe. From Karelia, the easternmost end of Europe to the southernmost end of Spain and swastika of Vandals, it is sacred.
@BasedWhiteGoy I'm just bantzing you btw don't take any of this personally
Behead all those who insult Esoteric Hitlerism.
it is dumb to worship a symbol though. and ik lol.
It is the symbol of our people. That is objective fact whether it offends or turns off majority or not
That's like saying its dumb to worship a skin color lol
if you had to choose between abandoning the swatstika and redpilling thousands of new people, which would be more important?
It's so superficial its retarded
I feel like telling people what they can and can't find a purpose in is retarded as fuck
if its the former, you care more about autistically worshipping a windmill over winning for our people
"redpilling" is completely fucking insufficient
Our grandparents were "redpilled" by our standards
did it make a difference?
I don't know what your goal is at the end of this, but we're not going to convince enough people to hate jews that we just beat them democratically
We don't need normie support for national socialism
yes, and we also aren't going to win with 800 people
so being insular is not a strategy either
Bullshit, read the brigade, it can be done
Normie Americans are calling us the good guys right now regardless of our optics nigga
with 800 people? yea, no
Oh and siege
and no they aren't. no normie american is calling a nazi a good guy
R E A D S I E G E
Read the brigade niggers, top tier
Look in any normie media outlet about one of our rallies
TWP doesn't use Swastikas and NSDAP imagery in our propaganda anyway, so this is a pointless conversation.
"The nazis had a permit, they came peacefull, these communists are starting shit"
lol, no normie news outlet is saying that, i think you are in an information bubble man
The outlet isn't it
I mean the comments section
On the articles
the normies thought us and the commies were equally bad
Is tonight IE open house?
they believe in big brained nibba horseshoe theory
This convo has convinced me. Im going tomorrow before work to get a swastika tatted on my face
He's VA not IE lul
Oy vey. Where do I even get a copy of Siege and The Brigade?
lol, there spamming me with swatstikas isn't going to offend me. i have no problem with using it privately, just autistically using it at public rallies
*spamming me with
Amazon doesn't sell Siege
The brigade by harold covington is the handbook as to how we win with minimal numbers and minimal funding and support
@BasedWhiteGoy Do you support exterminating the jews? This is the only question that really matters.
i feel like you are just memeing on me now
Why? Didn't Matt just make his official position known? How is this controversial?
Would you just let the bitter kikes Samson Option us?
Does the TWP not take an official Pro-Holocaust stance?
Nah, Matt explicitly said the official position is Exterminationism
Last stand of implicit white identity tbh
i agree there are no good jews, i just don't think exterminating them is realistic. and heimbach plays total war? shieett
might have to add that nibba on steam
Make Pogroms Great Again
"i just dont think exterminating them is realistic"
Heimbach can't wait to revive that orthodox tradition
>Not supporting cloning all Jews so we can exterminate them as often as we like
ITS THEM OR ITS US FAM
ONE OF US GOTTA DIE
Real Fedposting Hours If You Upp Hit Dat MF swastika button
i heard heimbach was a fed anyways, nicholas fuente told me
Sorry, was rocking the little one back to sleep, whatd i miss?
the virgin activist v. the chad keyboard warrior
Which i can do while playing total war, as y'all saw apparently, lol
Same old optics discussion.
they all bullycided me for counter signaling skinheads and swazis
Only the dead have seen the end of optics.
Guys, I don't wanna start anything, but I heard a rumor
I heard that Trump is a fed
I mean, for me as Chairman of the Party, the reason that we dont use the swastika is the same reason why the Rexists, Iron Guard, and Falange didn't; they had their own symbols
@MatthewHeimbach there's photos of the IG using the Swazi, though; Codreanu even had a ceremonial crown with one on
it isnt a "do we use the swastika or not" due to public pressure, normie opinion, etc; its about just being a National Socialist movement that develops our own symbols, while respecting our comrades from both modern and historical movements
That is true, but it wasnt their Party banner and it was primarily the symbol of a group that pre-dated the NSDAP
Fact: If you counter signal this, you are a cuck
Fact: If you counter signal this, you're a cuck
Skinheads get a lot of shit from big brain imageboard nationalists who have never met them.
And you are a cuck, don't you worry.
That dude, based on the videos afterward, is literally retarded
im not even being mean
like, actually mentally challenged
ya, not wanting to torpedo the movement is pure cuckery.
and yea i saw the interview
No one is gonna side with some basement optics expert over real upstanding working class men risking their lives out there.
Even the skins tho have moved away from the skinhead label and stuff
Yeah the look has evolved from the 90s a lot, naturally.
That retard was like a blast from the past.
lol, yea okay kombat. i hope you enjoy your 500 person movement, i am just some basement optics cuck(that attended cville and wlm but whatever)
The most fake Skinhead I've ever seen
Kombat's with the NRM
cool. he is still wrong.
you know, the group that was founded by skinheads, beats up cops, and has optics that give Dicky Spencer little tingly feelings
Yeah dude, it's actually the opposite, the US cucks that live in the country of +300 million can't organize a demo size of Cville without months planning and ton of organizations while European full on total roman saluting swastika tier nazis can organize much more radical demos of that size alone regularly.
So objectively you are wrong.
lol, the skinheads had their shot for like 30-40 years and did nothing of value here. what is your excuse?
1.0 had their shot
what did they do?
please tell me
Well, we had Soviet Union which had banned nationalist movement.
I'm sorry for KGB.
But you fucking cucks have no excuse.
the alt-kike has been around since before Rockwell's day
lol, just keep repeating cuck if it makes you feel better about your self indulgent activism that will achieve nothing
the name alt-right, (coined, interestingly, by Richard Spencer's Jewish mentor, Paul Gottfried) is merely the latest label attached to the phenomenon
skinheads and 1.0 were not "banned", they operated openly for decades and did literally nothing.
except get in to drunken brawls, hide in the woods, and make asses of themselves
why are you glorifying that?
And last independence day our demo had like 3000 people taking part in the torch march, which is like 2000 more than last year. We grow at amazing speed while being full on nazi while yankees cry about optics and can't muster demos for shit even if they have half a dozen organizations. Yes, cry about optics some more
As spotty as the history of the American NS movement is, it's still better than the history of the suit-and-tie respectable undercover Nazis.
National Alliance was great
lol, you are either being intellectually dishonest or dumb. we have to compare the success of our movements here in this country
not in scandinavia
NatAll was literally a million-dollar-a-year org
you can shit on the current movement all you want, but it is far better than 1.0
no, no it isn't
Again, Pierce's National Alliance, million dollar publishing house
rallies thousands strong
much better than what we have today
there is no argument that 1.0 was better than the current movement, literally none. we have entered the mainstream political discourse here, idc about how much money 1.0 had
still not enough, sadly
It's not skinhead movement, that's a strawman, your nationalist movement PERIOD hasn't done SHIT, pinning it on skinheads, now that's intellectually dishonest. Not the suit and tie nazis, not the patriotards and not the skinheads.
Except NA tho.
Hasn't done shit? Okay lol. An entire generation of young white men have been redpilled because of 2.0, not because of drunken backwoods nazis
I was talking of 1.0 generation.
The issue is leadership, Europe has long ago brought together intelligent folks (white and blue collar) to work together
In America, as much respect as I have for Dr. Pierce, he and many others shit on the blue collar nationalists, not providing them leadership
A movement is fucking gay if its just white collar dudes with books that are too long, but it also doesnt work if its just the blue collar. We need to have the elements of the society, our nation, work together within the framework of a revolutionary movement
And American WN 1.0 failed on this, it was entirely a class separated movement
Back me up here tho Heimbach, skins are decent people, I know they saved they day in Sacramento as well.
I don't think anyone here has said skin aren't decent people though
I don't think they are bad people
Skins are good people, at least a lot of them are. We just need to have all elements of the subcultures under the same framework to make sure we properly apply our message in society
Skinheads alone are a dead end
Intellectuals alone are a dead end
Middle class folks alone are a dead end
Its like taking part of a body and calling it a person. We need rough and tumble dudes, like the SA, to ensure safety and security for our events, outreach, and communities. We need guys with tech skills, speaking skills, organizing skills, paperwork skills, etc
It all has to work together
Tfw we're so diverse it's causing division
Also heimbach just said diversity is our strength
Big if true
Yea. I have no problem with big tent strategy, I just think that once people are in the tent we shouldn't just say that anything goes. You are in NRM which is organized, disciplined, and has good aesthetics so idk why you would disagree with that. Would you allow hooliganism in NRM when you are organizing a march where people are expected to fall in line and act disciplined?
Large if correct
Would you say its cucky to tell some guy that's acting like a goon to fall in line and act proper?
A militant aesthetic doesn't work if it is sloppy and done with people who look and act like goons
It has to be clean and disciplined
Or don't even do it
What relevance does this have to anything we have discussed? Of course people follow orders.
Well in America, our issue is making that happen; which I think part of the discussion over subculture becomes relevant
See, creating the party is also about creating an identity with which people from all classes are comfortable with and can work within, and one subculture does not become superior and turn off other people. We have skins, people who would be called "2.0" in America, i guess more intellectual people, christians, pagans, atheists, EH, but during our demos and activism, they're just NRM first.
Exactly, that's the culture we're trying to build with TWP, and it is working. We've got former guys from Volksfront, other skin crews, National Alliance, Alt-Right guys, Southern Nationalists etc
A more intellectual guy would feel turned off trying to join a skinhead club, same with skinhead joining some AmRen tier book discussion club, but these both totally different sort of people can work happily together within the framework of the party and its identity.
I am fine with anyone who looks and acts disciplined and clean cut. I don't think that's a class thing either, my father is a carpenter and I was raised blue collar my whole life and my dad would have kicked my ass if I came home with face tats
You can NAXALT and that is fine
But NAXALTing is not a valid response bc obviously we have to generalize when discussing subcultures
Not All Cucks Are Like That
What are you suggesting?
lol, the irony here is that you guys are the ones cucking by saying that we should be afraid to confront people in our movement for bad behavior or degeneracy
because it might hurt their fee fees
and turn them off
The fuck you talking again.
Oh I'm agreeing with you man, that's why we're releasing our official physical fitness standards for the Party in the next few days
feelings be damned
No more soyboy nationalism
Mandatory uniform adherance for Spring onward is key as well; doesnt matter what subculture, we all look and dress the same
Okay one thing about that we were discussing in here either last night or the night before
I think PSD should have special uniforms
we need to get some group gym memberships going
I'm just saying that you're a cuckold because you're largely imagining this "skinhead degeneracy" as you admitted your only experience of skinheads come from movies. I have worked with a ton of skins within the movement, no problems ever, even chilled at their B&H clubs, great time. Just seems pointless and gay countersignaling rather than genuine concern over something concrete.
i'll be the first in line