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2017-11-04 00:30:03 UTC

They provide for themselves. But they can't build an entire power grid or water system my man

2017-11-04 00:30:07 UTC

But the people in Appalachia can just move at any time! Maybe to a big city center

2017-11-04 00:30:24 UTC

"a luxury once enjoyed brclmrd a necessity" internet I'd now a necessity. So is air conditioning. A cell phone, etc

2017-11-04 00:30:24 UTC

That requires capital in this system. Something these people don't have.

2017-11-04 00:30:43 UTC

Hadrian, lots of people did this to work in factories, etc

2017-11-04 00:30:52 UTC

Alot of them were forced by the way

2017-11-04 00:30:58 UTC

I was actually reading about this the other day.

2017-11-04 00:31:23 UTC

The business owners who needed labor would collude with local government and other land owners to force out farmers and the like.

2017-11-04 00:31:36 UTC

So they'd eventually move into cities for work

2017-11-04 00:31:49 UTC

The rural farmers and peasants pre industrial age were infinitely more wealthy than the factory workers

2017-11-04 00:32:14 UTC

I agree, government is evil ;)

2017-11-04 00:32:22 UTC

And now their children pay $80,000 a year to rent a broom closet

2017-11-04 00:32:45 UTC

Okay so lets remove the government from this situation

2017-11-04 00:32:58 UTC

The wealthy now hire boys with guns to forcefully move these people

2017-11-04 00:33:32 UTC

Which should be fought against. And local thugs are a lot easier to fight against than the federal government

2017-11-04 00:33:54 UTC

Without the safe guards of a central government what prevents the wealthy from monopolizing force

2017-11-04 00:34:18 UTC

Recreational McNukes

2017-11-04 00:34:19 UTC

Feudalism lacked alot of these safe guards, and as a result the peasantry were directly under the whims of the local wealthy such as nobles.

2017-11-04 00:34:46 UTC

"We need some manpower for this war. Get the fuck off your farm and come with us. Or we kill you and seize your assets"

2017-11-04 00:34:54 UTC

Without a strong central government, who will build the gas chambers?

2017-11-04 00:35:16 UTC

Jones, the wealthy already monopolize force

2017-11-04 00:35:40 UTC

If we eliminate the government (or most of its power) then that disappears. If it comes back in some other form then we should fight that, also

2017-11-04 00:35:54 UTC

I dont understand how it disappears

2017-11-04 00:36:15 UTC

Factory owners can't force government to take land from farmers

2017-11-04 00:36:26 UTC

Yes. They just do it themselves

2017-11-04 00:36:29 UTC

Slum lords can't block building permits

2017-11-04 00:36:42 UTC

Right, they just buy the land up outright

2017-11-04 00:36:55 UTC

That happens much less often , and I agree, it shouldn't happen either, but government does it far more

2017-11-04 00:37:19 UTC

Thats because we live in a neo capitalist society where our governments often adhere to the whims of the wealthy

2017-11-04 00:37:41 UTC

The greatest goal of the wealthy is to retain capital and prevent us peasants from aquiring it

2017-11-04 00:38:09 UTC

We have crony capitalism. Government interferes constantly. America was wealthier and there was far less poverty before the welfare state

2017-11-04 00:38:35 UTC

Jones, you shouldn't think of yourself as a peasant. You should look at how wealthy people acquired their money and do it yourself

2017-11-04 00:38:59 UTC

9 out of 10 millionaires in America are self made, meaning they didn't inherit it

2017-11-04 00:39:20 UTC

We had far more pure capitalism a century ago, and it was pretty bad

2017-11-04 00:39:39 UTC

The owner of the corp I currently work for, aquired his capital and started his business by splicing into the local infastructure of the existing telecom companies. An act like that today would put me away for a very long time

2017-11-04 00:40:05 UTC

So what he did was not only illegal but unethical

2017-11-04 00:40:24 UTC

A trend you see often by those with wealth in this system

2017-11-04 00:40:36 UTC

And purely capitalist systems as a whole

2017-11-04 00:40:48 UTC

We don't live in a purely capitalist audience

2017-11-04 00:40:51 UTC

System *

2017-11-04 00:41:09 UTC

I didn't say we did. I'm saying that this has happened in more pure capitalist socieities as well

2017-11-04 00:41:35 UTC

In the late 19th century, business owners often would relocate their employees to towns they built paying them in vouchers only valid in these workers towns

2017-11-04 00:42:30 UTC

Child labor, unsafe working conditions, no protections

2017-11-04 00:42:37 UTC

As opposed to what

2017-11-04 00:43:09 UTC

As opposed to these workers having some level of freedom and self determination.

2017-11-04 00:43:30 UTC

They have the freedom to work there or not to

2017-11-04 00:43:38 UTC

Or to start their own factory

2017-11-04 00:43:43 UTC

With what capital

2017-11-04 00:43:57 UTC

Capital is created

2017-11-04 00:44:24 UTC

When you're just a few paychecks away from starving, starting your own factory is not even remotely an option

2017-11-04 00:44:33 UTC

You can't simply create the wealth or funds required to build capital

2017-11-04 00:44:39 UTC

So you can work for someone else or be self employed and save up money to start your own business

2017-11-04 00:45:10 UTC

This was what the majority of business owners did. The alternative was to be self sufficient and live in what was objectively poverty, living off the land

2017-11-04 00:45:31 UTC

It was legal rulings and governments mandates that at the time were considered socialistic that put an end to such practices

2017-11-04 00:46:39 UTC

So, you can live off the land, or work for someone else & work your way up. How is that bad?

2017-11-04 00:46:57 UTC

What land?

2017-11-04 00:47:00 UTC

There was not a ladder to work yourself up. How do you work your way up on employee vouchers

2017-11-04 00:47:06 UTC

The land you don't own?

2017-11-04 00:47:50 UTC

At one point, child labor laws were considered socialism

2017-11-04 00:47:51 UTC

Jones, I'm not aware of any companies doing this anymore

2017-11-04 00:48:01 UTC

Refer to my above statements

2017-11-04 00:48:11 UTC

Why do you think they don't do it anymore?

2017-11-04 00:48:19 UTC

Because big government banned it

2017-11-04 00:48:33 UTC

Because another company will come along & offer them a better form of payment

2017-11-04 00:48:56 UTC

Did somebody let a Libertarian into the TWP server?

2017-11-04 00:49:00 UTC

No, because the government mandated a wage in US dollars

2017-11-04 00:49:07 UTC

People came to work for Henry Ford because he paid more, they did this voluntarily

2017-11-04 00:49:09 UTC

Why would they have to, if their buddy in big oil company 1 is doing it. What motivation does big oil company 2 have to improve the situation

2017-11-04 00:49:17 UTC

Not just a Libertarian, seems like an ancap

2017-11-04 00:49:33 UTC

Why not collude together to keep the workers under their yoke

2017-11-04 00:49:39 UTC

Jones, they don't have to work for an oil company

2017-11-04 00:50:02 UTC

Venezuela is socialism

2017-11-04 00:50:08 UTC

I know it's accelerated by brown people

2017-11-04 00:50:15 UTC

But every socialist policy always fails

2017-11-04 00:50:24 UTC

Social security will run out by 2030

2017-11-04 00:50:27 UTC

Venezuela is *Marxian* socialism

2017-11-04 00:50:27 UTC

So will Medicare

2017-11-04 00:50:37 UTC

Venezuela failed because they focused their entire company around the export of Oil

2017-11-04 00:50:47 UTC

Welfare and big government in any dorm is socialist

2017-11-04 00:51:06 UTC

And when the Oil prices crashed in 2015, which mind you also effected many oil companies in primarily capitalist countries, this effected them deeply

2017-11-04 00:51:11 UTC

There are different types of socialism. There's is communist. Ours is economic Third Position

2017-11-04 00:51:34 UTC

You're pointing towards one aspect of the Venuzuelian economy and ignoring others

2017-11-04 00:52:11 UTC

Alberta is a fairly capiatalistic province of Canada that faced pretty high unemployment during this time as well because their local economy was built on oil

2017-11-04 00:52:32 UTC

I agree

2017-11-04 00:52:37 UTC


2017-11-04 00:52:45 UTC

Building your society around one product is risky

2017-11-04 00:53:06 UTC

What happens when oil prices fall, is resources leave oil and will go to more profitable ventures

2017-11-04 00:53:19 UTC

Except that's not what's happening

2017-11-04 00:53:34 UTC

because oil companies are cock blocking every attempt at alternative energies they can

2017-11-04 00:53:53 UTC

Instead we are investing more and more money for less and less return in more dangerous methods of extracting oil

2017-11-04 00:54:08 UTC

By what mechanism are they preventing other sources of energy

2017-11-04 00:55:25 UTC

Cockblocking any legislation in government that would fund or allow grants for companies seeking to research altnerative energy, copy righting methods and other means of R&D into these energies. Invesiting millions into ads and public relations to scare us off from the idea of nuclear energy, electric cars, etc.

2017-11-04 00:55:51 UTC

And again we see government is the roadblock

2017-11-04 00:56:10 UTC

Government is also the middleman from them just doing these things themselves

2017-11-04 00:56:42 UTC

Would you agree that a large portion of welfare recipients in America are parasites

2017-11-04 00:56:47 UTC


2017-11-04 00:56:58 UTC

Meaning they are able and capable of working but they don't because why bother

2017-11-04 00:56:59 UTC

A small portion

2017-11-04 00:57:15 UTC

Most welfare recipients are non white. They aren't parasites?

2017-11-04 00:57:50 UTC

Many lifers exist in welfare because they hit a road block. Where its more profitable to stay at a certain income level while receiving welfare, than to receive a dollar or two raise in pay, but lose the welfare

2017-11-04 00:58:09 UTC

They suffer under a broken system that exists and benefits from keeping them in service

2017-11-04 00:58:10 UTC

Yes, that's the welfare cliff

2017-11-04 00:58:32 UTC

And this culture we have promotes pleasure and the individual needs above collective good. When we implement cultural changes to promote community and family, people won't want to be parasites

2017-11-04 00:58:33 UTC

But it's false to compare this to national socialism

2017-11-04 00:58:34 UTC

It creates a perverse incentive to not work longer hours & avoid pay raises

2017-11-04 00:58:53 UTC

If we eliminate welfare, people won't have the possibility to be parasites

2017-11-04 00:59:24 UTC

Either be productive or starve. If you are a legitimate victim, then private charity can fill in. It's not moral if I'm forced to give money at the point of a gun

2017-11-04 00:59:29 UTC

In a high trust society like we want, we can have nice things like welfare and universal health care

2017-11-04 00:59:50 UTC

You don't need universal healthcare to have healthcare

2017-11-04 01:00:08 UTC

Along the lines of what Hadrian is saying. You're focusing on the socialism under our current low trust broken system, while ignoring the results of socialism under a high trust nationalistic system

2017-11-04 01:00:14 UTC

Everything government currently provides was once provided by private individuals

2017-11-04 01:00:23 UTC

Or not provided in any form

2017-11-04 01:00:32 UTC

I agree that any system is going to work better with whites

2017-11-04 01:00:38 UTC

And people lived for 35 miserable years

2017-11-04 01:00:39 UTC

It's not just about being under whites

2017-11-04 01:00:47 UTC

Libya worked wonderfully

2017-11-04 01:00:57 UTC

Before (((They))) killed Ghaddafi

2017-11-04 01:01:05 UTC

Hadrian, because we had a much poorer understanding of modern medicine, not because a lack of government. Everyone died young

2017-11-04 01:01:32 UTC

What motivated people to improve healhcare. Because it was not primarily profit

2017-11-04 01:01:45 UTC

It was out of a sense of common good and duty to ones people

2017-11-04 01:01:58 UTC

Not just medicine. Local crop failures led to mass starvation, among other things

2017-11-04 01:01:59 UTC

Or profit

2017-11-04 01:02:14 UTC

Anyways the wife is glaring at me. I gotta put my kid to bed. Feel free to keep it going. Discussion is good

2017-11-04 01:02:23 UTC

Because if you offer a magic pill that increases your lifespan 50 years, do you think people would be willing to pay you for that?

2017-11-04 01:02:45 UTC

Goodnight bro, and thank you for doing your part at repopulating our race

2017-11-04 01:03:34 UTC

We'll never measure up to those chad IE guys man. Getting shouted down by a bunch of fat pink hairs at gainesville

2017-11-04 01:03:41 UTC

That was peak optics right there

2017-11-04 01:04:06 UTC

My ideal society is a 100% white ethnostate with maximum freedom. If people want to form a socialist commune within the country, they should be able to, but the libertarian town shouldn't be forced to pay for it

2017-11-04 01:04:33 UTC

Don't you want to help your fellow people?

2017-11-04 01:04:52 UTC

Yes, and I do, through charity

2017-11-04 01:05:00 UTC

Taxation and welfare is theft and violence, not charity

2017-11-04 01:05:09 UTC

It's not moral if I have a gun held to my head

2017-11-04 01:05:23 UTC

You realize this is a discord chanel for TWP, a national SOCIALIST org right?

2017-11-04 01:05:32 UTC

Not trying to shit on you man but cmon

2017-11-04 01:06:25 UTC

And you shouldn't be allowed to accumulate wealth through unrestrained greed while your fellow white people are poor through no fault of their own

2017-11-04 01:06:47 UTC

Jones agrees that debate is good. If mods don't want opposing viewpoints then I'll stop bringing it up.

2017-11-04 01:07:13 UTC

How is it greed to want to keep the money I earned, but it's not greed to want to take it from me?

2017-11-04 01:07:30 UTC

It's not that you earn money, it's how you do so

2017-11-04 01:07:46 UTC

In capitalism, it's by providing services people are willing to pay me for

2017-11-04 01:08:37 UTC

If you're treating people fairly, that's fine

2017-11-04 01:08:59 UTC

None of us want to take your home, food etc. We encourage business

2017-11-04 01:09:01 UTC

I'd like to reiterate I'm 100% on board with nationalism. And I'd rather live in a socialist all white country than a capitalist multi ethnic society.

2017-11-04 01:09:27 UTC

The great thing about capitalism is, if you don't think what I'm offering is fair, you don't have to do business with me

2017-11-04 01:11:50 UTC

And when the heating oil company starts charging exorbitant rates in the winter?

2017-11-04 01:12:00 UTC

Should we just not do business with them?

2017-11-04 01:13:18 UTC

I bet if a ceo did that, he would be hated by everyone in society

2017-11-04 01:13:36 UTC

They do that now wtf

2017-11-04 01:13:44 UTC

Who would ostracize him and refuse to offer their business with him

2017-11-04 01:13:58 UTC

That only happens if there's a monopoly

2017-11-04 01:14:11 UTC

And monopolies only exist when the government creates themv

2017-11-04 01:14:26 UTC

Or when there are a limited number of companies and they all do it

2017-11-04 01:14:39 UTC

Why can pharmacy companies charge $500 for one pill? Because government made it illegal for anyone else to make it

2017-11-04 01:14:47 UTC

There are tons of duopolies that do the same thing right here in america

2017-11-04 01:15:07 UTC

Because government stops competition from coming on the scene

2017-11-04 01:15:34 UTC

Government didn't create Standard Oil

2017-11-04 01:15:37 UTC

On a long enough timeline pure capitalism creates a monarchical type system

2017-11-04 01:15:47 UTC

The thing about capitalism is that the rich get richer, no matter what

2017-11-04 01:15:55 UTC

Government broke it up

2017-11-04 01:16:07 UTC

Unless they're doing something dumb, the rich get richer without government involvement

2017-11-04 01:16:14 UTC

Usually when wealth is inherited, it's squandered

2017-11-04 01:16:31 UTC

I'm not familiar with the history of standard oil

2017-11-04 01:16:32 UTC

It doesn't have to be passed strictly be inheritance

2017-11-04 01:16:49 UTC

Holy fuck I just say IE cucking hard on Shelbyville

2017-11-04 01:16:58 UTC

They're saying they're the future of the right l m a o

2017-11-04 01:17:28 UTC

Standard oil was the company owned by John D rockefeller. He'd pioneered a new method of the production of Oil where instead of paying say for instance a moving company to move the product, or a limber company for limber, he bought all the companies involved or at least the means to produce the product

2017-11-04 01:18:15 UTC

It took the presidency of Teddy Rossevelt to end his stranglehold on American Oil. Even after that the Rockefellers are massively wealthy family to this day

2017-11-04 01:18:58 UTC

They screwed over an entire industry, got rewarded for it, and they're still living like kings

2017-11-04 01:19:06 UTC

Capitalism is kiked

2017-11-04 01:19:32 UTC

It sounds like he found a way to produce oil more efficiently

2017-11-04 01:19:39 UTC

So efficiently he cornered the market

2017-11-04 01:19:44 UTC

Without any involvement from the government

2017-11-04 01:19:51 UTC

Why shouldn't the most efficient corner the market?

2017-11-04 01:19:58 UTC

That's not a monopoly

2017-11-04 01:20:19 UTC

The competition wasn't efficient

2017-11-04 01:20:19 UTC

But it was a monopoly. He was the only one who could offer the product for the price he could

2017-11-04 01:20:29 UTC

And as a result the competition ceases to exist

2017-11-04 01:20:46 UTC

The word monopoly was coined around this time because of companies like standard oil my man

2017-11-04 01:20:48 UTC

Why is it the consumers fault for buying the best price available?

2017-11-04 01:21:07 UTC

Nobody is blaming the consumer

2017-11-04 01:21:15 UTC

We're blaming government for not stepping in

2017-11-04 01:21:16 UTC

The consumer often has no choice but to buy the cheapest product. They have no guilty in this

2017-11-04 01:21:29 UTC

A monopoly only exists if it prevents competition from entering the market. Monopolies only exist because of the government

2017-11-04 01:21:42 UTC

Standard Oil prevented other companies from entering the makret

2017-11-04 01:21:46 UTC

That's simply not true

2017-11-04 01:21:51 UTC

This argument is getting really circular

2017-11-04 01:21:57 UTC

Lots of people pay more for "made in America" products. If I lived in a white ethnostate I would buy products made locally

2017-11-04 01:22:05 UTC

If you could afford to

2017-11-04 01:22:35 UTC

If you discover a way to make a product 100x cheaper than the next competitor, and you keep that production method to yourself, you're monopolizing the industry

2017-11-04 01:22:42 UTC

Yeah I feel like we're seeing diminishing returns in this conversation

2017-11-04 01:23:11 UTC

If I lived in the 1900s and had the resources to buy land & dig for oil, how would the Rockefeller prevent that?

2017-11-04 01:23:28 UTC

You wouldn't be able to sell the oil for enough to make it worth your while

2017-11-04 01:23:34 UTC

Offering you a ridiculous sum of money to not do it and give you the oil

2017-11-04 01:23:45 UTC

And what Fevs says. Your prices could not compete with his in the first place

2017-11-04 01:23:54 UTC

You would not own the timer companies, the truck companies. etc

2017-11-04 01:24:07 UTC

If it can't compete then he deserves to have a 90% market share. It's what the consumer wants

2017-11-04 01:24:20 UTC

And from there he can exploit the consumer

2017-11-04 01:24:25 UTC


2017-11-04 01:24:28 UTC

Without any recourse from the consumer

2017-11-04 01:24:32 UTC

Government is the only recourse

2017-11-04 01:24:43 UTC

He holds that 90% market share until everybody else is driven out of business

2017-11-04 01:24:49 UTC

Between Apple and Samsung, they probably have 90% market share on smartphones . There are alternatives but they have this massive market share because it's what people want

2017-11-04 01:24:49 UTC

Then skyrockets the price

2017-11-04 01:25:12 UTC

Then it becomes profitable to compete again

2017-11-04 01:25:28 UTC

But the barrier to entry isn't something easily achievable

2017-11-04 01:26:06 UTC

He owns every step along the process, if you try to open up just ONE step of it, you'd have to use his company right?

2017-11-04 01:26:24 UTC

He mines, transfers, and refines all his oil

2017-11-04 01:26:28 UTC

Say you just mine it

2017-11-04 01:26:38 UTC

He could charge you out the ass for transportation and refinement

2017-11-04 01:27:14 UTC

White Americans would be mining our own oil if Obama's government didn't prevent the keystone Xl pipeline. Instead we give our money to Muslims, because government forbids otherwise

2017-11-04 01:27:30 UTC

That's a modern example and issue caused because of government, not a lack of it

2017-11-04 01:27:36 UTC

That's not a response

2017-11-04 01:27:36 UTC

America produces over a third of our oil

2017-11-04 01:27:42 UTC

Another third is provided by Canada and Mexico

2017-11-04 01:27:48 UTC

That seemed extremely off topic

2017-11-04 01:28:18 UTC

"Ultimately, the state is a tool. Whether it is good or bad depends on who is using it and for what purpose. The American government isn’t evil because it’s big and bloated. Imagine what this monstrously large institution could do in the hands of good men who care about the future of White people. Practically all of our ills could be cured in record time.

Individualism is a loser’s strategy in life’s game of survival of the fittest. Even for a cynical observer, it is indisputable that teamwork (and thus cooperation and empathy) are superior to individual effort: if might makes right, two men with sticks are mightier than one man alone.

The enemies of our people want us weak. With Marxism, they make us weak individually so that it matters not if we unite our forces. Through libertarianism, they insure that the strong among us stay isolated rather than uniting their powers and posing a threat."

2017-11-04 01:28:37 UTC

As you said, we are going in circles about standard oil.
1. If he is selling it less expensive than the competition, then the consumer wins
2. If all competition goes away and he jacks up the price, competition will arise again, and the consumer wins

2017-11-04 01:28:40 UTC

Also I like how you say "Obama's government"

2017-11-04 01:28:40 UTC

We must abandon foolish notions of “objectivity” if those lead to our destruction. “Freedom” is no different from “tolerance”. We all understand now that tolerance is not a virtue if the thing being tolerated is evil (bad for our people and against the natural order). Likewise, freedom to commit evil cannot be considered desirable. All that matters is freedom to do good. Today, we are not free to do good, because all laws are inverted by our enemies. Wishful thinkers long for freedom, thinking ‘well, if we were totally free at least I could do the right thing’. This is a compromise. Instead, we should long for total victory, where the only freedom is freedom to do good (meaning, what is good for our people). Our enemies certainly don’t cheer for the freedom to do what they don’t like, and neither should we.

2017-11-04 01:28:43 UTC

As if he was the one in control

2017-11-04 01:29:24 UTC

Kombat, the state isn't a tool, no more than rape is a tool

2017-11-04 01:29:48 UTC

Let me ask you guys something. Marxism is a 100% tax on your production. What is a 70% tax?

2017-11-04 01:30:10 UTC

They both can be a tool. What do you mean?

2017-11-04 01:30:26 UTC

Rape is immoral

2017-11-04 01:30:43 UTC

I didn't say we should use it. Unlike the state.

2017-11-04 01:30:49 UTC

It's taking without consent

2017-11-04 01:30:54 UTC

The same as the government

2017-11-04 01:30:56 UTC

Are you saying taxation is theft

2017-11-04 01:31:01 UTC

I say let's have so much state until the kikes choke on it.

2017-11-04 01:31:11 UTC

joke: taxation is theft
woke: taxation is rape

2017-11-04 01:31:14 UTC

Demonstrate how taxation isn't theft

2017-11-04 01:31:17 UTC


2017-11-04 01:31:24 UTC

Like Rockwell said, doesn't matter how big a state but how good a state.

2017-11-04 01:31:50 UTC

Theft is some nigger jacking your car, taxation in NS society goes to help your fellow whites. Are you retarded.

2017-11-04 01:31:53 UTC

I feel like coming into the server of a National Socialist Worker Party and railing against National Socialism is not a productive thing to do

2017-11-04 01:32:26 UTC

If nothing changes, Germany is going to become non white in one generation thanks to a massive state. No one should have that kind of power. The power to steal trillions and import your replacement.

2017-11-04 01:32:29 UTC

You don't seem to concede that there's any merit at all to our core philosophy that the whole movement is built on

2017-11-04 01:32:30 UTC

@Klutch I apologize for being rude to a fellow white nationalist, but your economic views are a meme and you need to reeducate yourself

2017-11-04 01:32:42 UTC

"thanks to a massive state"
Literally what

2017-11-04 01:33:01 UTC

Migrants are coming primarily for the welfare state.

2017-11-04 01:33:14 UTC

Yes, of course

2017-11-04 01:33:20 UTC

There's been a welfare state for decades

2017-11-04 01:33:22 UTC

Which is why they cross over countries with smaller social benefits like Poland and turkey and go to Germany, France, Sweden

2017-11-04 01:33:23 UTC

What has changed now?

2017-11-04 01:33:41 UTC

Also no worries Fevs

2017-11-04 01:33:46 UTC

Libertarianism I feel is defeatism, like having capitulated any hope of gaining the supreme power in their own nations, and instead retreat to their own backyard and beg to be left alone while everything else is swallowed by the mudflood.

2017-11-04 01:34:01 UTC

Nazi socialism has no gibs for nigs.

2017-11-04 01:34:08 UTC

Libertarianism is also individualism

2017-11-04 01:34:55 UTC

The mudflood, lol I like that term.

The difference is. A libertarian society would tolerate a socialist commune, but a socialist society would never tolerate a libertarian commune

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