and a conference

Very nice. I know the meth problem has hit many rural whites as well.

Flash Demo Rudolf Hess.

My family for sure. Lots of cities around me. Small towns, it's all they do for fun.

THEY FOUND TRACKSUIT GUY BRRRNNTTT SKRRT

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/cfb60328e102fa7ed64d5d3417f5a23f15db0f7ffff89660e290fc015fdf5c89.png

Tracksuit guy?

https://youtu.be/n_zXdU0Fg_Q

Love that song but it makes me sad very sad

@coltonwilliams#2152 Isn't that the guy that was with red Helmet man

WtF IE people taking shit about the National Socialist part of the alt right saying that we are going to start not being invited to things do to CVille

If they have a problem, fuck them

We're literally the future

Seriously.

lol, no wonder atomwaffen have been memeing them so hard

They'll get left behind.

IE has always been a joke, it's totally irrelevant. They aren't in any position of authority telling anyone what to do, besides, if it were up to them, 80% of people in Cville would not have shown up for being "thugs" and "not respectable". But as always, it's the nazis doing 100% of the commie punching while IE is standing back afraid of spilling their latte.

Yeah they're bourgeoisie cosmopolitans essentially and have cucked the hardest in the face of danger.

These types think themselves to be the next social elite, whereupon they can occupy stuffy cabinets with leather chairs and sip wine whilst stroking each other’s egos over meaningless yammering coated in complex wording. Well let them dream. Reality of the matter is, however, that history shall repeat itself once again, as these intellectuals will find themselves trampled underneath the jackboots of “low brow” “thugs” (the favored insult towards fascists in the past, all of them, from Hitler and Mussolini to Sir Oswald Mosley and Rockwell, to Codreanu, Italo Balbo, Joseph Tommasi and etc) – the very ones they thought would be doing their bidding.

The Alt Right wouldn't exist without NS as its backbone. They surely have none.

With these people I always wonder, they claim to hate the "normal politics" with passion, but insist on imitating it as closely as possible. IE's propaganda is the mildest and most uninspiring shit I have ever seen. All their posters look like advertisement for a museum or something. I don't know if they try to recruit their own pear clutching grandmas or something, but their stuff is the blandest, most inoffensive shit ever. You can hardly tell them apart from college republicans.

That's their appeal I think. If it only applied to optics it wouldn't be as bad. They're effete and ineffectual ideologically also.

While IE does sometimes have it's head up its ass, it has successfully cornered the market on young men, claiming that it is not relevant is quite a reach.

> it has successfully cornered the market on young men
Can you back that up somehow? I have seen them have only a small handful of people and its no wonder, why would anyone want to join a group that is so deathly afraid of saying what they think? Why demonstrate at all if you start it by apologizing? I've known a bunch of ex-IE people, one was kicked out for "a racial slur". And the propaganda, it's not only mild, but it's zero effort, teal impact font on a picture of statue, bam. They're in no position to countersignal any NS.

As far as evidence I can only provide anecdotal, as I have seen at several events that the vast majority of young quality white men were IE members. Are you a member of any IE servers? You realize the strictness of muh PR is only extended to the public sphere right? I can understand that many might think that saying "We have got to get rid of all these fucking niggers man, they're raping our people" is less optically appealing than "Because of the vast difference in social needs I believe whites and blacks should be separate" and I can understand removing someone from your group for these reasons, considering the explicit purpose of this group is muh PR.

They are opticslords.

Which is a double edged sword without hardened conviction behind it.

Remember now, that is only as far as the public sphere goes, If you go are with nathan alone having a drink and go "Man, fucking niggers and kikes, they all have to go" he will have no scruples.

You will never attract precisely the sort of radicals and fanatics that are the lifeblood of any movement if you can only spout cucky PR shit. In essence, you are what you pretend to be.

And besides, at some point you have to act on what you believe in, and how can you ever do it when the group holds you back? It's the same fallacy with the entryists.

What would you do with a person who would be offended by mildly racialist propaganda, anyway

Well they backed down wen I reminded them we saved their asses and now they are taking like people again

I mean why would you even want to attract such a useless person, if they're supposedly all hardcore (even though they shit on ebil nazis)

Where are they shitposting, Twitter?

Because they want to look good to the skeptical outsider? Because they want to refrain from being ideologically dismissed by the same tired terms they have used against us for decades? Every group has its purpose.

https://youtu.be/NC7oGgHH_os

@RexLexus yeah we met at the party

Look, we're all in this business because we want a future for whites, and all that. If I wanted to join a group, I'd want to join a group that says exactly that, and projects strenght and pride by saying that, not watering their message down and mincing their words, which projects the exact opposite. We use propaganda as a wide net – we try to maximize its spread not in order to get everyone who hears it on our side, but so as to call out to those few, who are already receptive to our message and just need that last incentive to take the plunge. It is a beacon with which we attract those with potential, and thereafter we vet them for those who are real hopefuls, weeding out losers, fakers and larpers. We cast a wide net, we call out to the few and then distill those numbers even further, until we get only people who can change the world. That's why PR fags vomiting blood over the most inane shit, like shirt color or runic letters is so ridiculous, if you were intending to save the white race but that's a dealbreaker - you were never serious to begin with.

Heil Hitler.

Strenght is respectable. PR faggotry, wearing suits and ties and suitcases is pretty much political cargo cult of adopting things externally associated with respectability. Kikes never relinquished their control over the goyim because they were more respectable or morally superior.

http://www.politicalresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/identity-evropa_join-us-600x399.jpg

I would argue that they do exactly that, except without being explicitly vulgar. Hitler didn't begin every speech by saying "I want to kill all the foreigners and if you don't agree you are a cuck, fed or a LARPER"

Hitler said exactly what he wanted to do and what he did, Hitler spoke the Truth and because of that he was loved and hated, he didn't tailor his message so that the Jewish press wouldn't attack him, the exact opposite.

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1494506119846.webm

Look I think TWP is fantastic, but I also think IE has its place, and if we all start publicly taking a shit on eachother things will devolve into the way they have been for decades.

Daily reminder Hitler purity spiraled

Yup he wasn't afraid to say what he meant even if it was unpopular

He was almost killed as a young man for dong just that wen he worked construction

I agree, of course he didn't. He also didn't purge the SA until it was absolutely necessary regardless as to whether or not he knew of what was going on there.

"Too many people believe that combining the strength used by the groups traveling down different roads into one unified journey would be more certain to bring success and bring it faster. But this is not the case. Nature herself, using pitiless logic, decides who succeeds by putting the various groups in competition with one another and forcing them to struggle for victory.

At this time, all those leaders who could not stand on their own feet united into these worker coalitions in the belief that eight lame men, arm in arm, would create one big gladiator. If there were one healthy man among the lame ones, he needed all his strength to keep the others on their feet and ended up paralyzed himself.

It must never be forgotten that nothing truly great in the world has ever been achieved by an alliance. It has always been through the triumph of the individual. The very origin of joint forces carries with it the germ of its own later decay. Great intellectual revolutions that shake up the world are only conceivable and only possible when they are monumental struggles by individuals and never when they are enterprises of coalitions."

- AH, MK

brb cig

Heil Hitler.

Heil Hitler.

I think IE has its place

Just as we do

They do not seek to gather the radicals, they try gathering those who would probably turn out to be shitlibs

So long as they help out with adding people to our broader cause I think they're fine, every movement will have different subcultures imo

The counter signalling is fucking gay though, on their part

I would argue that Hitler, NS germany and the general WN movement have different goals.

I agree

They'll help us get there though

Hitler wanted to unite Germans under one political system for the benefit of Germans

"Many right-wingers are sincerely concerned, I know, about my battles with men such as Maguire, Snowden, Welch, Hargis, et al., and my revelations of what they really are. “They are doing good,” I am told, “why not let them go about their business their own way. They are helping. Don’t hurt them”.

I maintain they are only giving the appearance of helping-but are actually hurting.

Before a mass of people will rise up and do anything effective and forceful about a tyrannical situation, there must be built up a certain emotional pressure. A firecracker has not the force of a rifle bullet because it explodes harmlessly in all directions. But the gas from a rifle bullet cannot escape, except by forcing the bullet out at terrific speed, because it is confined, directed into useful channels.

As long as Welch and all the rest of his ilk, rich and poor, can give themselves the illusion of “fighting the Jews” by exploding the pressure inside of them verbally and harmlessly, in all directions, and without ever hurting a Jew traitor, they keep the pressure we need to get mad and fight from ever building up." - GLR

I just get annoyed that IE keeps talking shit about the NFs WN1.0 people and how our black uniforms and skin head friends are bad optics

We are so desperate that we want to unite white people under any political system (except communism) for the benefit of white people.

And we should be in white and tan like them

And we need to ditch the skinheads

I know I shouldn't let it bother me but wen they go about satin that do to CVille and optics "National Socialists" will find them selfs not welcome at rallies ..

Yes, that's an interesting debate I've had over the years - would the people in these groups join a more radical group if they didn't have a cucked alternative, or would they be active at all? I've lately come to believe these people would, if there was no less radical group and the other alternative was watching the destruction of their country would just become full on nazis. I've seen so, so many people who joined NRM as pretty much alt-right and later became full on nazis, because they saw it was the only real alternative to the System. Taking the most radical pro-white position is always the best tactical choice in my opinion - you attract the most valuable radicals and fanatics, but also those who aren't so radical yet, but are adamant they have to act for their race, no matter what. The media attacks us like no tomorrow and we're THE big bad nazis over here, called white ISIS and whatnot of course. The media will never respect you, and we don't ask for their respect, but we have demonstrated to our fellow whites no attack from the cops, reds or newspapers will bring us down, and that is genuine respectability, only thing that matters.

brb

You don't have to start all out war against IE. Just saying their denouncement means fuck all lol

The trouble is the water and power still works, and you can still buy a loaf of break for 1.50

bread.

Loaf of break

Bread

I think the outreach IE does makes them a good entry point

Normies getting used to seeing pro white messaging that they do it's a good thing, even if they're not ready to take the natsoc pill

A lot of kids do fist join IS then see us in action and come over after Cvill I know a few IE that are looking on coming to us one Proud boy also

Get normies used to at least pictures of statues, I wouldn't necessarily understand this is even pro-white message unless I knew to associate Roman statues with alt right Roman Empire fans.

https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2017/03/identity-evropa-our-destiny-is-ours-683x1024.jpg

I just advocate sending the strongest possible pro-white message. Even if you're not ready to swallow it, you'll get "used to it" like Hadrian said.

Another example is DailyStormer which reaches 400x more people than AmRen, again not despite of the tone, but because of it. Radical doesn't equal having smaller appeal necessarily.

True

We're at the point where having multiple different approaches helps

I think I may have posted this before, but I'll repost it as it is relevant to the conversation. @Kombat-Unit https://youtu.be/ZcHp-A0wVt0

👍🏻

Post-double drinks at the pub in a TWP polo nationalism

on gab, @wocassity says this "Disrupt the counter protector actions by changing/shifting plans." http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Organizers-cancel-Saturday-s-far-right-rally-in-11961550.php

I'd like to hear opinions on that. Not the article per se, but the tactic of forcing them to mobilize resources.... feigned rallies.

TBH it looks bad fore the right and emboldens the left

Thanks. I wanted honest opinions

They get to say one more time we win and the "Nazis" louse thus making them stronger

The best plan I see is to do flash rallies / secret rallies with out telling the government just showing up with speakers and equipment and doing it fast and then getting oitb

Out**

yes flash rallies is a good strategy.

I'd like to see other groups do it too. Perhaps NSM.

Gotta run now goys. ttyl.

/pol/ does it again.

We need dossiers on these scum.

is he ourguy now?