That's a hard mindset for Americans to break, for decades we've had a movement, with the exception of Rockwell/Piece/and a few others, that was simply racial conservativism

But TWP needs to set the standard

A lot of the newer "alt-lite", whatever are afraid to be subordinate to a true ideology or doctrine. If a person cannot call themselves a National Socialist, they may not be one of us.

It's just a matter of guts, I'm tired of people who *get it* but think we can be clever

I'd rather we just be honest and sincere

This is who we are, this is what we believe

Like Tommassi said, the belief in our own weakness is our greatest weakness. I could name dozens of cases where people have said we should tone it done, no one will come, it's too radical. But it's turned out to be nonsense every time. If people wanted normal party politics, maybe they join a mainstream party. If the last two years have shown us anything, it's just that people yearn for radicalism, give them the chance and they'll take it. If they are serious about saving their race.

Any man who is looking around now and saying "well, lets just fix a few things" is a moron or a coward

we need radical change

^

I remember in 2015 after some anti-refugee demo we went to a cafe with 8 or so NRM comrades, one dude from his own literally who organization comes to sit at our table with his buddy, and goes on about how we need to keep nazis away from demos so that normies aren't scared away. He and his buddy were only non nazies in the table, p much. I just thought it was funny and illustrated well how out of touch the cucks are. Two years later, no one's heard of him, people have heard plenty of us, and didn't seem to be minding nazis at demos.

Exactly

@MatthewHeimbach I know exactly that from a friend in The UK.

He hates how groups like National Action are brutally suppressed while Anti-FAgs and their (((Commie))) asses can parade (((The USSR))) Flag 👿

I was so fucking butthurt about NA getting banned I just wanna see May's head on a platter, no matter the cost.

She'd rather hunt nationalists than actual dunecoon terrorists. I've been fully 100% corbyn nazbolpilled.

The time is approaching comrade.

She banned me from the UK

One more good reason.

Well Nick Griffin says that UK folks need to head to E. Europe to prepare for the next war and retake their nation, i have mixed feelings on that, but given the Orwellian police state there, it may be the only long term option

What is National Bolshevism?

Griffin committed political suicide in 2009 and hasn't been relevant since.

I have been trying to get a good grasp but I am confused.

I think he and his templar posse whatever got kicked out of Hungary as well.

NazBol isn't really an actual, real life thing. Limonov led a nazbol party in Yeltsin era and immediately after, but that died ages ago.

I see.

It's basically communism for white people.

Lol 😂

Yea. Still (((Jew Bolshevism))) all the same. Fuck that.

NazBol makes sense in E. Europe

I see then. Either way I would rather National Socialism.

I mean look at their look

Name any actual functioning nazbol group.

NazBol is simply an E. European expression in many ways, of National Socialism, utilizing symbols and some talking points from Slavic history

I mean, I totally get it. It's not that. But it doesn't have much of a real life presence to talk about

Agreed, its all underground now anyway

Well I stand corrected then.

Maybe I could see if a Nazbol group is established in The States.

In America, itd be too autistic and wouldnt have a cultural or historical precedant

I see.

Just like hoe we in TWP are NS, but we dont wear German uniforms

hpw*

how*

And if it were the other way around, that if we had a dictator who killed all ethnic minorities, invaded Norway and Sweden for no reason and installed a patriotic dictatorship, I could get how nationalists would like that.

Okay.

But Russian basic bitch patriotards already praise Stalin to high heaven, so there's no really strong dividing line between nationalism and nazbol in Russia, so I dunno why even make it a separate thing. It's a bit different than praising Hitler here.

I always thought of Stalin and Tito as crooks.

That's not really a controversial opinion among NS.

NazBol is culturally relevant for Eastern Europe and as long as it maintains vehemently anti-Jew it is ok. I think using a hammer and sickle is almost invoking a self-defeating type of sigil magic though.

The crook w/ the big moustache and the crook from Slovenia (who oppressed Croats and Serbs).

Maybe in like Belarus, if you praised Stalin to nationalists in Ukraine or Latvia or Lithuania or Estonia you'd get murdered.

I do not get why folks like Tito.

Met bunch of assimilated Russians in the baltics who full on praise Hitler.

But for some of the Russian minority praising Stalin is like a way of saying "We used to own you, we wuz big, we wuz stronk".

So it's an immediate shitstorm.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18954731_1942391226004573_8376006448639653463_o.jpg?oh=f11de9383aa25c05ddff426c4c93ccad&oe=59A66E1E

@Kombat-Unit I just don't know how to process what I'm seeing there, haha.

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/golders-green-polling-station-colour-1.439758

“In a nutshell, any other decision today, and I’m leaving the country. We already have Swiss passports and we shall be there next week.

“I don’t have a Swiss passport, but I will try and get out the country any way I can, because I couldn’t afford to stay here.”

Corbyncaust already in effect.

Speaking of Greens, i was in Georgia this weekend and saw in the White suburbs, the most Green Party signs i have ever seen in my life

How bad are the US Greens?

I mean like 70% of their platform could be mistaken for ours, but that 30% is pozzed as hell

almost totally insignificant until recently

EU Greens are the worst party hands down, pro-incest pro-pedophilia. No white sharia soon enough.

but the last election saw them get a lot of organizers and chapters

the wave of the future is third parties in america on the local level

i mean the Socialists got a council member for the city council of seattle

that hasnt happened in literally generations

The US political system still fucks me up a bit, it's so simple with unitary country. How high positions have 3rd parties achieved, currently and in general?

Historically, a lot

the Communists and Socialists in the 19th and early 20th century had State lawmakrs by the hundreds, thousands of local offices, even Congressmen

The Constitution Party has as well

We arent going to win the Senate or the House, but we can use this system to take over regions on the local level

...yet. Have there been successful nationalist third parties? Oddly enough I know the fringe of the fringe very well, anything approaching mainstream, not so much.

The Klan controlled entire States in the 20s

It was as Democrats, but they ran it

Yeah, Klan, fair enough.

Indiana actually had the Governor and majority of the State legislature and the Federal offices all picked by the Klan

Our issue has been vision. You cant launch a national crusade if you dont have infrastructure to do so, and local support

I mean Wallace ran as Third Party

won about the entire South

He won about 10 million votes

And if he had won 1 or 2 more States, which he came very close to do, he would have been able to have an insane amount of leverage with the other candidates to make them adopt his platform

I think organizing locally is the only way to get a national movement off the ground.

Gotta build the cart before you get a horse to tie to it

Exactly. I think it's possible for TWP to get a foothold on certain corners of the US. If the Mormons can, in places like Utah, we can in Appalachia. It's very realistic.

Same goes for Vegas and most of Rural Nevada

Exactly 100%

brb

Europe is just bit ahead of the curve when it comes to radicalism and political violence. Due to a combination of historical factors, life has been pretty chill in US, violence has been more racial than political, and state has very successfully kept the monopoly of violence for +100 years. The two party system and fetishization of independent militias has also probably contributed to the lack of political violence. It's all very summary and spontaneous, and even despite of Klan's reputation they were pretty amicable bunch and willing to take part in the democratic process. While here we have a 100 year history of two dozen competing parties with their own militias and enforcers and at least two wars and a civil war within that century.

I have no doubt shit will hit the fan big time over there as well.

@Kombat-Unit agree 100%. we are in the beginning stages of civil war here. It's inevitable.

I just find it funny every time how SocDems used to have their own militias in several countries. While in 2017 we have "nazis" complaining about how rifles and self defense will give us a bad name.

Hell, here the civil war was initiated by Social Democratic party, we didn't even have commies back then.

And yes, as things keep unraveling, US will come to resemble the rest of the world more, two party monopoly crumbles, people take the matters into their own hands more and more, left and right polarize and gear up and the center will be shattered to death.

The US, I think, as a cohesive entity, has an expiration date--as does the EU. We'll see where the next few years take us.

So true.

brb as well, making food

@dd✳555 I expect The US to undergo it's own "Spanish Civil War" type event.

I know we already had one before but the next time *IT WILL* mirror that of The Spanish Civil War.