that’s actually a good point

But the government can’t employ the same amount of people who would be replaced by machines

And if they did the need for infrastructure upgrades would diminish leaving us in the same place we were

hmm I wanna say you underestimate how much work there is to do there, but I don't know the numbers of potentially displaced workers/how much work is needed for infrastructure

at the very least, I offer it as a partial temporary solution

and a way to make our country amazing in a specific way ya dig

Well think about it though, roughly 250M available workers in the US

if the government employed all of them

We should take 25% of our military budget then put it into infrastructure programs

250M unemployed? is that what's meant by available?

ooooh I love it shadow

No no

Like

That’s just the work force

I don’t know the exact number

oh, the whole work force won't be displaced

Obviously

But the majority will

lots of jobs are safe

By the time machines replace most jobs

The population will have increased as well

you think? where you getting that from. America doesn't have a strong factory presence anymore, and that's who gets automated

I mean I’m also talking globally tho

service and skilled labor isn't gonna go anywhere

oh

yeah that's diff

I think America will get hit by this for sure

but I don't think close to a majority

There’s plenty of jobs that would be effected

for sure!

it's an issue, to which i present the possibility of infrastructure work here in America

But you still run into the same problem we have today

How would the government pay em

once the infrastructure work runs out?

And that

well, that's another issue

because we can get into marginal tax debates haha

which is an entirely other subject

Yea

but I think a high tax rate for millionaires could pay for it

Idk

Nah

I think when you tax the rich

Send in troops to take all their money.

They leave

Like in California

Force them to stay.

hahahaha shadow with the great ideas again

fuck it let's just eat the rich

He’s just a member

Memer*

Well if you use the rich persons family.

You can get money out of them

I personally think that a flat 10% tax rate for everyone is ideal

Maybe less for poor

eh tbh

idk

But I don't think the millitary budget should be used

oof

just privatise the bridges etc

instead of the government paying for it

lmao, those tolls would be the fucking worst

Then they’d become toll bridges

yea

it would be so miserable

yep

not really

probably cheaper

But you pay for it in taxes now

So lower taxes

yeah it's way easier to pay for it in taxes then every time I cross lol

Yea

I was gonna say the time cost

But there’s things now

and there is no way that it would be cheaper, it's a private enterprise, they would figure out how to make as much money as possible

Like EZPass

And to make such money you have to give it at a supply and demand cost

it's not like there's competition between bridges... you just need to use a specific bridge to get somewhere haha

Where it automatically takes it when you drive through

which is probably cheaper

competition between bridging companies

@Colonel Sanders™ probably something of the sort

I doubt there will be toll areas

I mean it’s a thing now

o

We have it lol

yeah there are private roads

what? how does that make sense. You have to cross a bridge, and you can't cross any other bridge, why would they want to lower that cost?

they could charge you whatever

what's ezpass?

when you cross a roll

Toll

Instead of stopping and paying

The toll road scans your car for it and automatically takes money out of an account

oh tight, private or government?

Saving time

I don’t actually know

Lol

I’ll look it up 1 sec

I would assume private

yee just curious, i would assume that too

Oh it’s only in MA

rip

competition doesn't apply to bridges: you have to cross specific bridges to get to specific places (that's how bridges work)

oh gotcha

and it’s private he’s

Yes*

I bet other places have other programs similar

yea

programs similar lol idk why I phrased it that way

but anyway yeah let's invest in our bridges

I understood either way xD

Another problem with that is

I live on cape cod

And when they were fixing the bridges

It was fucking aids

To cross

ooof I feel that, had a similar situation a couple summers ago

Took around 1-2hours to get to the mainland

yeah I mean there's no good way around that right? when you need to update infrastructure people are just boned who have to interact with that infrastructure

but I don't think that's an excuse to not repair things

like it sucks but we gotta do it

and last I checked our bridges are in a *seriously* bad state

and if they fail then the government is gonna have to intervene, and it'll be way more expensive to deal with a broken bridge than to repair an existing one

"wahxToday at 20:25
what? how does that make sense. You have to cross a bridge, and you can't cross any other bridge, why would they want to lower that cost?"

Competition between other methods of transport

The bridges are currently a monopoly

and it's the reason why it's so broken, not maintained well

Not to mention congestion and traffic blocks due to the free rider problem

free rider program?

which would be solved in a privatised system

Free rider problem

competition between bridges and... other methods of transportation? like what

I heard you lol can you explain it

people taking benefits from public goods they didn't contribute to

Now we have excess demands on these roads which leads to shortages

oh like companies driving trucks on roads without paying much in taxes by tax evasion

No

Well

maybe yea

ye

lol

stuff like that

but anyway, generally speaking, you have a bridge somewhere because getting there otherwise is tough

what do you say to someone who has to cross a specific bridge to get somewhere?

trains and other roads will be a problem if there is a high price charged

what about our homie @Colonel Sanders™ , who it sounds like only has one way to get somewehre

or a price above the equilibrium

wouldn't private companies just drive up the cost of his drive?

because they know it's the only way somewhere?

How?

and who

the problem with privatizing roads and other public infrastructure is that there are very specific regional monopolies

Colonel Sanders

roads are monopolies currently

haha, you're not hearing me, regional monopolies

if there is *ONE ROAD* to get somewhere, what will happen to the tolls on that road?

in a free market situation

Wdym what will happen?

will the tolls go up... or down

will the price be high... or low

depends what supply and demand has it at

no, there is none of that. There is one road, one toll, x amount of people use it daily. it is not fluctuating, it is a road in a population-stable location

what will happen to the tolls on that road?

will they magically be low?

the "supply" is 1: one road lol. The demand is x amount of people a day. It doesn't change, because it is a road.

the toll will be extremely high, because they know they can, because people need this road

I mere there’s 2 bridges but 1 only has a 2 lane road to get to it lol

So when they do work on the main one

You’re fucked

And it’s like every summer btw

mkay so there's some competition there, we can easily imagine a scenario though where just one road/bridge exists to get somewhere

Unless the same company buys both bridges

yeah then you're still boned

>like the government owning both xD

oof haha, the question is do we want the government having the monopoly, or private institutions

one of those is more efficient but wants to get as much money from you as possible

one of those is less efficient but profit isn't a concept

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPmhitGOaGU

hmmm I wonder what dems want in exchange

like if they wanna negotiate, they want something

I see Pocahontas is in the thumbnail.

Good Pocahontas.

oof

Elizabeth Warren a fat L for MA

@Colonel Sanders™

you said the rise of automation eliminates jobs right

I believed the same thing a few years ago

but it really doesn't

if you look back in time, industrial revolution for example, people were saying jobs would be gone and that a lot of people would be unemployed and people would be doing nothing

exactly how people say it now, but look what happened

That’s different though

People still needed to work the machines

In the scenario I’m talking automation removes the majority of jobs

Like high majority

people will still be needed to make the make the machines, check if theyre working properly, repair them

yes

Obviously

But in the IR the machines were run by people

It was probably 10 people to a machine but now

It would be 1 to 100

Maybe less

But you get the point

Hello

Lol

lmao, where'd you find that?

Instagram

You should install a Ben garrison political cartoon bot

Yeah he draws some good shit

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Lol

@wahx there is supply and demand everywhere

They won’t become monopolies however , and will be much more efficient

Less shortages and less crime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YX1v3IhYRk

Parallel bridges above, tunnels below for competition

Economizing- Say three paths: road 1 = (line A,B) , road 2 = (line A,B)+distance 50 north, road 3 = (line A,B)-distance 50 south. Say road 1 costs $50, road 2 costs $35, and road 3 costs $20, the driver could economize by picking the road at that suits them best in relation to time/money. Currently drivers have no incentive to economize because roads are completely subsidized, so they tend to take the shortest route every time which leads to congestion.

Substitutes the cost of the road would still have to be less than airfare to compete with that substitute. So there would be no monopoly in that regard, also, perhaps in a free market with private roads, passenger trains would once again be competitive in the market. Currently with subsidized roads there is no reason to compete in this sector.

More here https://mises.org/library/privatization-roads-and-highways

Besides there will always be an incentive for private firms for transportation. They can’t exist without a means of transporting goods and services

lol what a moron

LMFAO

How is someone that dumb in public office

Also I’m pretty sure that’s the same guy who said revolting against the government is impossible because they have nukes

remember we have AOC in congress as well. Any retard can be a congressman/woman at this point.

Yeah Sarah Palin was the governor of a fucking state

If she can do it literally anyone can

true

Sarah Palin was a literal retard

I think she was one of the main reasons Mccain lost so bad

"oil caused Venezuela crisis"

who said that

Nah just people say oil caused the Venezuelan crisis

as an excuse

Gotta defend socialism

I think Venezuela's collapse just made Sanders and Cortez unelectable tbh

they aren't even socialist

Cortez is super socialist, sanders is socialist but not as much

"A country having rich people is immoral"

plus she wants to give poor people free housing

housing as a human right she calls it

nah they aren't socialists

they're all soc dems

Venezuela collapsed mainly because they thought printing unlimited currency would be fun

its all the same thing

putting democratic in front of a word doesn't change it

its still socialism