The Roman government told the Germans to pay taxes and stop raiding their neighbors.

The Germans told them to fuck off. The Romans sent in the Legions

The Legions were majority Germanic by this time

Civil wars all over the place

It would be better to simply encourage the native birthrate and keep the barbarians out.

We don't have any obligation to put ourselves in the victim position in a hostage situation

The relationship between the Goths and the Romans was all over the place. Romans solders profited of supplies the roman government sent to help the refugees, that caused the two german political groups to fight the romans

>political groups

Ethnic groups.

The Goths were a nomadic horde. The horde contained the entirety of their ethnic group.

Why not just keep them out?

It was bad for Rome

No retard, Tervingi and the Greuthungi where the two goth political groups.

It was bad for rome because mistreatment of refugees lead to war

Wikipedia literally defines those two as tribes

Not a political group

They didn't have Young Tervingi college clubs

Why is Rome obligated to suck up to foreign guests or be destroyed?

Rome is only obligated to her citizens.

Let them handle their own business.

Outside of our borders.

We are under zero obligation to put ourselves into a hostage situation to be nice to someone or be killed.

Of course they have no obligation. This is where we fundamentally disagree, I'm compassionate and pitty others. You're more of a libertarian (from what i can tell)

I am not a libertarian.

You don't take a dangerous homeless man into your house with your family.

"I'm so nice! I'm glad I'm putting my entire family in danger for that sweet sweet virtue dopamine"

When you invite foreigners into your country you are threatening the future of your own children.

And their children

You fear-monger, my family members are the foreigners you're to scared to show compassion to

What happened to the Romans?

What did showing compassion get them

And it is no surprise you have no concern for my group's future, invader.

They didn't see the Goths as bothers and sisters, thats exactly why they fell

They let the Goths in

That is why they fell.

It's like blaming a rape victim for resisting

You died because you fought back dummy

Just let the rape happen.

"Rome fell because it did not embrace the people sacking their cities with opem arms."

Hugs solve all conflict.

Mugger? Well I'm a *hugger*

Come here you, I can take the stabbings

are you autistic? That analogy is beyond stupid and it's clear that you have a deep presupposition when dealing with immigrants

Immigrants commit a ton of crime.

Their countries are shit

Because of poverty and other social issues

Because they live there.

Indians make more money than whites do in the US.

Still higher crime rate.

Honduras is the way it is because Hondurans live there.

Somalia is the way it is because Somalians live there.

There is no benefit to me, only hardship, for people like you to come here.

I have no obligation to you. For a foreigner to lecture his host on the morality of letting more in is the most empty platitude of all

I don't understand your lack of compassion towards the downtrodden and the meek.

Countries are groups of people.

A country is defined by the people who live there.

Who are the corrupt politicians in Honduras?

Hondurans.

Who run the drug cartels in Mexico?

Mexicans.

"Rescuing" these people from themselves serves for nothing but to bring their vices here.

Even now any place with a hispanic population in the US has a cartel issue.

Muslims commit terror acts at much higher rates than anyone else.

Inb4 you don't understand per capita

Go home.

You prick, you've built up this superiority complex over something that can't be controlled. Corruption in Latin America is caused by a number of things, including the united states. Claiming that ones ethnicity or nationality determines their value and personality is pathetic.

Weird how breeds of dogs have temperaments right

Weird how dogs that have never seen a sheep know how to herd

Yet some of these dog breeds have only been around for one or two hundred years

Evolution doesn't affect the neck up, clearly.

So different breeds of the same species with different personality modifiers based on genetics

Hmmmm

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Woah dude stop

You're btfoing my argument by calling me mean words

Please

You can't address the point

Go home

What point, that you justify racism by pseudo science?

Dog breeds are pseudoscience?

News to me.

Corgis and Great Danes are exactly the same.

>human breeds

All dogs are equal man

What is the difference between a breed and an ethnicity. Both are caused by divergence and genetic separation

There is only one breed, the dog breed.

Dog breeds have been around for even shorter amounts of times by thousands of orders of magnitude

Why are humans different

>corgis around for 150 years
Wow such divergent traits
>Aussie Aboriginals around and isolated for 50k years
EXACTLY THE SAME AS ME

That is indeed what I am saying

Ethnicity is not a breed prick

"Haha I AM a retard as you claim! Checkmate!"

@Toro how is it not

What is the difference

Do you have even a mild understanding of anthropology?

Both
1: Caused by genetic isolation/divergence.
2: Have fundamental traits that include intelligence and personality.

What is the difference?

Answer that, stop dancing around it, it's not a sombrero.

inb4 Jared "retard" Diamond

A breed is a group of domestic animals or plants with homogeneous genotype and phenotype, created by humans through controlled breeding, in other words, through artificial selection. Although humans do show some phenotypic and genotypic variation by geographical origin, the concept is more complicated biologically because there is no precise demarcation, as humans have not been bred by anyone to have certain characteristics. Geographic isolation, and natural or sexual selection, have resulted in some alleles being more frequent in some groups that in others, and ancestry determines the distribution of some genes. That is basically it, from a biological point of view.