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we are from India
I'm not even white
we only have indian people as aqactinances
Ah, my dear white friend, curry ain't munchable.
how about we talk on a dm
It sure doesn't feel like it is.
It tastes terrible I hate indian food.
so um... how old are you?
And I'm not exactly mixed
I'm 100% Indian
So um... I'm actually from the Indian Subcontinent
I'm not a native
How old are you?
And I don't exactly wear a red dot, unless you count my acne
You seem very immature.
If you want, I'll start first
oh you know already
well, we don't marry teenagers here in America, do you?
Well, I am 13 and in my opinion, seem to take this situation much more maturely than you
BTW I am taking screenshots
are you white?
we aren't all tech support?
ever heard of sundar pichai?
you are a amazing human being
but why would you think so?
This seems like a very fun conversation
hello, can you go tell this racist to f**k off?
let me verify his affiliation
Doesn’t Rule 1 of this server expressly prohibit racism
Although I suppose that doesn’t stop a lot of other people
I mean, you can celebrate anyone but you don’t have to celebrate them
don't accept the invite to noob gang
And also, If I am being racist, would you care to send screenshots
I cannot post pictures here
then fine, DM me <@!292180075216896000>
this has gone too far
I need to do homework
im gonna start off by making it very clear that i am in no way a trump supporter. ive come here to convince or be convinced. i am a left democrat, although not a millennial socialist (an socdem who calls themselves a democratic socialist). i believe in open borders, and am horribly against racism. but i hear this is a friendly community so ill go with that. that said, the first impression isnt great...
though I did get cursed at for being a commie
lol i call myself a commie sometimes for the memes
sorry, did I assume you're gender?
the farthest left beliefs i have though are socdem
HAH I CORRECTED IT YOU GRAMMAR NAZI
I kind of have a mix of far right and far left beliefs
i have a combination of neoliberal and socdem beliefs
like, im pretty libertarian
also, dr. mengele isnt funny
basically, I believe In Saudi Arabia's government, just with gender equality, freedom of religion, and freedom in general
isnt it a religious state with a monarchy founded on religion?
cue freedom of religion
of course I'm not Muslim I'm HIndu
wait not muslim
Alright Mengele, you win
I'm a racist, red dot Indian and you are a superior rich white girl
im going to politely suggest a ban
and its gone
im fine with that
a troll but a scared one
lmao im not that conservative
My faith in Trump is waining
Andrew Yang an Asian Democrat cares more about the white working class than the entire GOP
Andrew Yang is an idiot
Rand Paul is where it's at
@Kaladin How so? Andrew Yang seems to have a great deal of common sense about him. I was impressed in more than one way.
He believes in an UBI
nothing more needs to be said
Rand paul votes against trump. He is not acceptable
He votes for what is right
I mean, not as good an ron, but sill the best man in government rn
Not like we're getting a wall
Might as well get $1,000 a month
We need landmines and turrets
That $1000 a month will have bad consequences
Do you know why he brings up UBI? @Kaladin We coming very shortly to the reality of automation of many more jobs. Particularly truck drivers. He is one of the only ones to bring up the way technology will change the economy
Yeah so? Automation isn't bad for the economy, it is better for the average person to have lower prices.
It will be 3-4x as many jobs being replaced than the previous change in automation
What will happen to the millions of truck drivers ? The rust belt has never recovered
We don't work to work, we work to have a better life. But the division of labour is a thing, and specialisation. With automation, we will just have more jobs in different sectors, maybe in another sector that doesn't exist yet
This would be devastating unless you're a CEO in a big liberal city
Well most jobs in a big city
But that's not the reality
I want a source for the number of truck drivers, but I don't see how it is bad to have cheaper transport costs. And they can train to get into a new profession, or maybe the jobs won't all disappear overnight, because it's a gradual change
It is, and has been for the last 200 years
Are you fan of Tucker Carlson?
I like some of things, but not really
And he is very wrong on economics
Maybe get some rest?
But yeah, I'm a tom woods guy
If you look at the backdrop we automated away 4 million jobs in Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Missouri. And those communities have never recovered.
Where if you look at the numbers. Half of the workers left the work force and never worked again.
And then half of that group filed for disabilities
Yeah, that's shit. But you can't solve that with an UBI, nor is that necessary a national problem
Question, do you support the tariffs?
I don't do sources. waste of time. Hopefully you don't need a source to understand that this automation will happen to truckdrivers, retail workers, fast food workers. On and on and on through the economy.
As we evolve in technology we marginalize the labor of more and more Americans
Okay, so I'm supposed to take your word as truth that half the work force never worked again?
The automation of jobs seems a bit too obvious for me to waste time finding where I read it
But...that's completely factually incorrect. At the dawn of the 20th century, agriculture was the biggest sector, now it's less than 1%. That's not a bad thing for the economy.
I mean the part about half the work force never working again
But the automation means that you get those things for cheaper. Think about the hours of meaningless paperwork now saved. Yes, I'm not saying that people laid off will find it easy, but it's about looking at where people are hiring, and making informed decisions. Making sure you know mutiple different skills, that you aren't just good for one industry. Being able to jump, having something in the back pocket
I remember the idea in Washington is that they will all become computer programmers and so everything would be fine. But it didn't happen. I personally think it would be insane to watch this automation wave over take our country and economy.
No, not everyone will enter the same industry. It's about individual decisions not commands from on high
Yes, and the luddites said the same thing in the 19th century
what's your solution? Ban machines?
We don't have to be ostrages with our heads in the sand. We can say "look we get it, artificial intelligence is real self driving trucks and cars are being tested on the highways right now. And we need to evolve
Yes, I agree. But your way of evolving isn't evolution, it's the same old solutions
Statism never works
We need to start pushing the way we think of economic process to include how our families are doing, how are children are doing. And things that actually matter to the American people.
Define pushing the way we think of the economic process
tell me your solutions
GDP is going to lead us off a cliff for many American communities
GDP is a false measurement, agreed.
Robot trucks are great for the GDP. Terrible for many many American communities. So we need to get with the program and figure out how to actually make this economy work for the people.
Dude, self-driving trucks are good for people.
It's the number one job in America...
You are making meaningless assertions without offering *solutions*. Dude, you need to tell me what are you proposing as a solution
Automation didn’t kill jobs
Nor will it
I don't know the solution man. Yangs main goal in his campaign to tell people the numbers and the devastation it will have to so many Americans. I will try to find you a source if I have time. You sound curious so I suggest researching a little big on how automation has never recovered the rust belt
Automation creates more jobs
Why has the rust belt never recovered?
And state intervention
Automation isn’t bad as the market will always re allocate jobs
But the state has made it worse by putting min wages etc
This will be 3-4x times as many jobs
Andrew Yang is a good guy but his policies are shut
Automation yes, it’ll create more jobs
But it doesn't lmao
This has been said every time “this time it’ll kill all jobs”
And it does today
Holy crap, someone just used fee as a source
That's a real libertarian
More of mises
Mises is awesome
Both the guy, and the organisation
I believe you’re an Austrian ?
So am I but im not an an cap
I support the wall and it will be built
So lets backtrack. You said the rustbelt recovered because of... welfare and state intervention? @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ
but automation I wouldn't say creates or kills jobs, it allows for further specialization of labour, and better quality of life
*it didn't recover
No it didn’t recover
I am an austrian
The national emergency is just
This Feb the amount of apprehensions has been the highest since 2005
The walls is already being built tho
Ahh I see that's why you don't see how truck drivers losing all their jobs as a serious problem.
I mean it’s only made worse through intervention
But the jobs will be re allocated
But they havent
And people will have a better quality of life
Okay, but prove that
Yeah that’s due to intervention
Yang wants to intervene more
I'll repeat a statement from above
How on earth will that help
I remember the idea in Washington is that they will all become computer programmers and so everything would be fine. But it didn't happen.
I mean, it worked in the 30's, it will work now
Pep in it mostly has but there are few problems that can be solved if there was not as much intervention
Washington has many bad ideas, don't use them as the measurement
kill all legislatures
If we care about jobs being lost so much
I'm not. I never thought that was a good idea
Why don’t we revert back to the 19rh century jobs
We won’t grow then but atleast the jobs will remain
“Here’s an example. A Deloitte study of automation in the U.K. found that 800,000 low-skilled jobs were eliminated as the result of AI and other automation technologies. But get this: 3.5 million new jobs were created as well, and those jobs paid on average nearly $13,000 more per year than the ones that were lost”
It's a lie the government said. Wanting automation is what Washington wants
Like I said. It is absolutely great for the GDP
Automation has always resulted in more jobs
GDP isn’t what I’m referring to
Dude, do you think it will be better for people if people worked more?
It has not
Gdp isn’t even a good measure for the economic growth
GDP is bullshit
I agree with you
The fact that prices will fall and people’s material standard of living will rise
It is like measuring apples and tvs
GDP is simply spending
It may give some idea but
It *is* compering apples and tvs
And spending has nothing to do with material prospierty
Automation is really made worse by intervention
If Yang fries to stop it, companies will move countries and you have a bigger job loss
I am saying... If it always created more jobs. why have half the 4 million jobs lost to automation in the midwest and 2 million of them have never worked again @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ
please demonstrate that actually happened
And I repeat, do you think it would be better if people worked more?
Pep in I told you
Intervention and welfare
And that's not jobs
“Another factor is the growing trend of occupational licensing. Requiring licenses to become a pet-sitter or hair braider has made it more difficult for people to launch new careers.”
Welfare subsidies unproductive activities
And intervention just raises the cost of business and results in lower demand for workers
I'm not here to find sources for you @Kaladin maybe later sure ask me then
Things like a min wage is a good example of why automation is happening faster
Well, faster, but it would happen anyway
and that's a good thing
Yeah and it would not be so exacerbated
Humans won’t be fully replaced, ever
Companies know they need to survive they need money
That money can only come if people are working to buy their products
That's kind of subsidizing is in the same vain as what Andrew Yang is talking about by bringing up UBI @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ
If nobody works they’re done
UBI is less worse
Well, that's interfered with by government as well
But it’s still bad
UBI is the same thing, and welfare wouldn't go away
The whole downfall of the rust belt has been due to intervention and welfare
Simple as that