we are from India

I'm not even white

not exactly

we only have indian people as aqactinances

well

Ah, my dear white friend, curry ain't munchable.

@andrew pics or it didn’t happen

how about we talk on a dm

It sure doesn't feel like it is.

It tastes terrible I hate indian food.

so um... how old are you?

And I'm not exactly mixed

I'm 100% Indian

So um... I'm actually from the Indian Subcontinent

I'm not a native

Not exactly

How old are you?

And I don't exactly wear a red dot, unless you count my acne

No.

You seem very immature.

If you want, I'll start first

oh you know already

well, we don't marry teenagers here in America, do you?

Well, I am 13 and in my opinion, seem to take this situation much more maturely than you

BTW I am taking screenshots

are you white?

we aren't all tech support?

ever heard of sundar pichai?

satya nadella?

ugh

you are a amazing human being

but why would you think so?

Hello

hello

This seems like a very fun conversation

hello, can you go tell this racist to f**k off?

let me verify his affiliation

owo <@292180075216896000>

um?

ahem

Doesn’t Rule 1 of this server expressly prohibit racism

Although I suppose that doesn’t stop a lot of other people

I mean, you can celebrate anyone but you don’t have to celebrate them

don't accept the invite to noob gang

And also, If I am being racist, would you care to send screenshots

I cannot post pictures here

then fine, DM me <@!292180075216896000>

hi...

this has gone too far

I need to do homework

im gonna start off by making it very clear that i am in no way a trump supporter. ive come here to convince or be convinced. i am a left democrat, although not a millennial socialist (an socdem who calls themselves a democratic socialist). i believe in open borders, and am horribly against racism. but i hear this is a friendly community so ill go with that. that said, the first impression isnt great...

@!AAmazing Hoping don't worry, he's just a troll

though I did get cursed at for being a commie

lol i call myself a commie sometimes for the memes

sorry, did I assume you're gender?

*your

the farthest left beliefs i have though are socdem

HAH I CORRECTED IT YOU GRAMMAR NAZI

meh

oooooookay

I kind of have a mix of far right and far left beliefs

um what?

no?

i have a combination of neoliberal and socdem beliefs

like, im pretty libertarian

also, dr. mengele isnt funny

basically, I believe In Saudi Arabia's government, just with gender equality, freedom of religion, and freedom in general

isnt it a religious state with a monarchy founded on religion?

cue freedom of religion

of course I'm not Muslim I'm HIndu

🤢

wait not muslim

nvm

🤔

Alright Mengele, you win

I'm a racist, red dot Indian and you are a superior rich white girl

im going to politely suggest a ban

lmao

and its gone

im fine with that

a troll but a scared one

lmao im not that conservative

hello

<:TrumpDab:475858725425643520>

My faith in Trump is waining

Andrew Yang an Asian Democrat cares more about the white working class than the entire GOP

Andrew Yang is an idiot

Rand Paul is where it's at

@Kaladin How so? Andrew Yang seems to have a great deal of common sense about him. I was impressed in more than one way.

He believes in an UBI

Just that

nothing more needs to be said

Rand paul votes against trump. He is not acceptable

He votes for what is right

I mean, not as good an ron, but sill the best man in government rn

Not like we're getting a wall

Might as well get $1,000 a month

We need landmines and turrets

That $1000 a month will have bad consequences

Do you know why he brings up UBI? @Kaladin We coming very shortly to the reality of automation of many more jobs. Particularly truck drivers. He is one of the only ones to bring up the way technology will change the economy

Yeah so? Automation isn't bad for the economy, it is better for the average person to have lower prices.

It will be 3-4x as many jobs being replaced than the previous change in automation

What will happen to the millions of truck drivers ? The rust belt has never recovered

We don't work to work, we work to have a better life. But the division of labour is a thing, and specialisation. With automation, we will just have more jobs in different sectors, maybe in another sector that doesn't exist yet

This would be devastating unless you're a CEO in a big liberal city

Well most jobs in a big city

But that's not the reality

I want a source for the number of truck drivers, but I don't see how it is bad to have cheaper transport costs. And they can train to get into a new profession, or maybe the jobs won't all disappear overnight, because it's a gradual change

It is, and has been for the last 200 years

Are you fan of Tucker Carlson?

I like some of things, but not really

I’m sleepy

And he is very wrong on economics

Maybe get some rest?

But yeah, I'm a tom woods guy

If you look at the backdrop we automated away 4 million jobs in Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Missouri. And those communities have never recovered.

Where if you look at the numbers. Half of the workers left the work force and never worked again.

And then half of that group filed for disabilities

Yeah, that's shit. But you can't solve that with an UBI, nor is that necessary a national problem

Source please

Question, do you support the tariffs?

I don't do sources. waste of time. Hopefully you don't need a source to understand that this automation will happen to truckdrivers, retail workers, fast food workers. On and on and on through the economy.

As we evolve in technology we marginalize the labor of more and more Americans

Okay, so I'm supposed to take your word as truth that half the work force never worked again?

The automation of jobs seems a bit too obvious for me to waste time finding where I read it

But...that's completely factually incorrect. At the dawn of the 20th century, agriculture was the biggest sector, now it's less than 1%. That's not a bad thing for the economy.

I mean the part about half the work force never working again

But the automation means that you get those things for cheaper. Think about the hours of meaningless paperwork now saved. Yes, I'm not saying that people laid off will find it easy, but it's about looking at where people are hiring, and making informed decisions. Making sure you know mutiple different skills, that you aren't just good for one industry. Being able to jump, having something in the back pocket

I remember the idea in Washington is that they will all become computer programmers and so everything would be fine. But it didn't happen. I personally think it would be insane to watch this automation wave over take our country and economy.

No, not everyone will enter the same industry. It's about individual decisions not commands from on high

Yes, and the luddites said the same thing in the 19th century

what's your solution? Ban machines?

We don't have to be ostrages with our heads in the sand. We can say "look we get it, artificial intelligence is real self driving trucks and cars are being tested on the highways right now. And we need to evolve

Yes, I agree. But your way of evolving isn't evolution, it's the same old solutions

Statism never works

We need to start pushing the way we think of economic process to include how our families are doing, how are children are doing. And things that actually matter to the American people.

Define pushing the way we think of the economic process

tell me your solutions

GDP is going to lead us off a cliff for many American communities

GDP is a false measurement, agreed.

Robot trucks are great for the GDP. Terrible for many many American communities. So we need to get with the program and figure out how to actually make this economy work for the people.

Dude, self-driving trucks are good for people.

It's the number one job in America...

You are making meaningless assertions without offering *solutions*. Dude, you need to tell me what are you proposing as a solution

bullshit, source

Automation didn’t kill jobs

Nor will it

I don't know the solution man. Yangs main goal in his campaign to tell people the numbers and the devastation it will have to so many Americans. I will try to find you a source if I have time. You sound curious so I suggest researching a little big on how automation has never recovered the rust belt

Automation creates more jobs

Why has the rust belt never recovered?

https://fee.org/articles/automation-replaced-800-000-workers-then-it-created-35-million-new-jobs/

Welfare

And state intervention

Automation isn’t bad as the market will always re allocate jobs

But the state has made it worse by putting min wages etc

This will be 3-4x times as many jobs

Andrew Yang is a good guy but his policies are shut

Automation yes, it’ll create more jobs

But it doesn't lmao

This has been said every time “this time it’ll kill all jobs”

It has

And it does today

https://fee.org/articles/automation-replaced-800-000-workers-then-it-created-35-million-new-jobs/

Holy crap, someone just used fee as a source

Uh

That's a real libertarian

rofl

More of mises

Innit

Mises is awesome

Both the guy, and the organisation

I believe you’re an Austrian ?

So am I but im not an an cap

I support the wall and it will be built

So lets backtrack. You said the rustbelt recovered because of... welfare and state intervention? @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

but automation I wouldn't say creates or kills jobs, it allows for further specialization of labour, and better quality of life

*it didn't recover

No it didn’t recover

I am an austrian

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2019/03/06/humanitarian-and-security-crisis-southern-border-reaches-breaking-point

The national emergency is just

This Feb the amount of apprehensions has been the highest since 2005

The walls is already being built tho

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work

Ahh I see that's why you don't see how truck drivers losing all their jobs as a serious problem.

I mean it’s only made worse through intervention

But the jobs will be re allocated

But they havent

And people will have a better quality of life

Okay, but prove that

Yeah that’s due to intervention

Yang wants to intervene more

I'll repeat a statement from above

How on earth will that help

I remember the idea in Washington is that they will all become computer programmers and so everything would be fine. But it didn't happen.

I mean, it worked in the 30's, it will work now

Pep in it mostly has but there are few problems that can be solved if there was not as much intervention

Washington has many bad ideas, don't use them as the measurement

kill all legislatures

If we care about jobs being lost so much

I'm not. I never thought that was a good idea

Why don’t we revert back to the 19rh century jobs

We won’t grow then but atleast the jobs will remain

“Here’s an example. A Deloitte study of automation in the U.K. found that 800,000 low-skilled jobs were eliminated as the result of AI and other automation technologies. But get this: 3.5 million new jobs were created as well, and those jobs paid on average nearly $13,000 more per year than the ones that were lost”

It's a lie the government said. Wanting automation is what Washington wants

um...

Lol?

Like I said. It is absolutely great for the GDP

Automation has always resulted in more jobs

GDP isn’t what I’m referring to

Dude, do you think it will be better for people if people worked more?

It has not

Gdp isn’t even a good measure for the economic growth

GDP is bullshit

I agree with you

The fact that prices will fall and people’s material standard of living will rise

It is like measuring apples and tvs

GDP is simply spending

It may give some idea but

It *is* compering apples and tvs

And spending has nothing to do with material prospierty

Automation is really made worse by intervention

If Yang fries to stop it, companies will move countries and you have a bigger job loss

Tries*

I am saying... If it always created more jobs. why have half the 4 million jobs lost to automation in the midwest and 2 million of them have never worked again @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

please demonstrate that actually happened

And I repeat, do you think it would be better if people worked more?

Pep in I told you

Intervention and welfare

And that's not jobs

“Another factor is the growing trend of occupational licensing. Requiring licenses to become a pet-sitter or hair braider has made it more difficult for people to launch new careers.”

Welfare subsidies unproductive activities

And intervention just raises the cost of business and results in lower demand for workers

I'm not here to find sources for you @Kaladin maybe later sure ask me then

Things like a min wage is a good example of why automation is happening faster

Well, faster, but it would happen anyway

and that's a good thing

Yeah and it would not be so exacerbated

Humans won’t be fully replaced, ever

Companies know they need to survive they need money

That money can only come if people are working to buy their products

That's kind of subsidizing is in the same vain as what Andrew Yang is talking about by bringing up UBI @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

If nobody works they’re done

UBI is less worse

Well, that's interfered with by government as well

But it’s still bad

UBI is the same thing, and welfare wouldn't go away

Mhm

The whole downfall of the rust belt has been due to intervention and welfare

Simple as that