<#418672556086919179> "Do you support the ban on transgender individuals serving in the military?"
Hell yes, being transgender is a mental illness and they will charge our military for their degenerate surgery through veteran medical bills and taxpayer money. Shock the gay out of them

No transgenders. Simple as

@Jack H. Im very anti-military in general but I fully support the ban on transgenders serving in the military

We dont need mentally insane people in the military.

Yep I agree 100%, gender dysphoria is a mental issue and transgenders shouldn't be given an exception over other citizens with mental issues.

Transgender surgeries should be banned.

Infact transgenders should not be in any political positions in the US or Police or emergency service.

I think at least that people with gender dysphoria should be evaluated to see if their disorder has any effect pertaining to their ability in combat or elsewhere in the military

whats another corpse to the pyre

The way our military vetting works is that *any* disorder is grounds for rejection

we never consider whether it might affect mission effectiveness or not

It is also a "don't ask don't tell" policy in practice when it comes to mental and physical conditions, because they rely on applicants to disclose any illnesses they have. Our military is full of crazies and gimps who are smart enough to keep their defects out of sight.

Yes.

We dont need idiots who think "oh im girl now oh i am boy now lol my feelings" in the military

I believe abortion should be illegal

Honestly its just plain murder if you think about it/

Killing something because it was unborn?

Not only is it a human.

But that human can grow up to be good.

And the disgusting pro-abortionists think its a right to murder?

So im guessing its also a RIGHT to shoot up a school?

Things like that should be illegal.

Just because its a baby from a raped mother does not make it not human

@Shadowstitcher11 You're defending the rights of a human while it's in the womb, but when it's out of the womb you wouldn't want to have your taxes spent to support him or her through social programs. Pick one, do you want a small government that doesn't distribute wealth and doesn't impose on social issues (in this case, abortion), or do you want a big government that is pro-life through making abortions illegal and pro-life by giving food stamps to the hungry and impoverished? Personally, I'm Pro-Life and I don't think abortions are moral in most cases - but I sure as hell don't want the government enforcing anti-abortion laws especially if the fetus is under 12ish weeks.

I'm against abortion, but making it illegal is a bad idea. If you make it illegal then women would still do it they would just find less sanitary and safe ways of doing it. Its better for it to just be legal so we can provide the best option for it.

@Toro When is murder justified?

@Shadowstitcher11 You're pro-gun so I'm sure you believe murder can be justified

@Toro Honestly I would not kill but if you illegalize guns then only the criminals have them.

The stupid liberals are giving criminals a huge advantage.

What are you gonna defend yourself with? A spoon?

Wasn't there a ranger who did that

chicago is a good example of gun control

and brazil.... and honduras

Honestly feminism with the by body my choice thing is plain stupid

1 - The baby inside you is not YOU its another living human
2 - So because its in your body you can sentance it do death? Is this 1940 Germany? You should not be able to choose the life of an innocent baby

What it comes down to for me is that the just charge for killing a pregnant woman is double homicide. Unless you want to revisit the argument of whether one person can own another, that makes an unborn child more than just a part of a woman's body.

If the woman wants to have the baby but someone kills it what happens then?

If its a life then its murder if its not the guy should not be punished for anything because nobody actually received harm

Well, that is a very bad confusion of the issue you've made there. The question is whether killing an unborn child ought to be murder or just assault (if it be considered just a part of its mother's body).

My answer is going to be the same as I said in Liberty Fever.

Abortion is murder and should not be considered a right. A right does not violate a law, and is completely legal. Abortion is the murder of an unborn infant, thus causing the child to be unable to live a single day outside in the real world. Get to know about life, and have fun.
Killing infants like that, should be illegal, and a double standard. Dems want to protect children, yet kill them off before they're born. It doesn't work like this. If anything, they're making more room for Republicans to enter this world.

Rich people need those human organs and bodily fluids

We are well on our way to some transhumanist dystopia actually

Vampire elite incoming

ooh what Eustace said is the exact premise of a book I just read, Never Let Me Go. good book, terrible movie

@HighonVaccine i agree

We don't need the Jewish community having more power over others

Ben would just triple our aid to Israel and let the corporations run amok

@Eustace

Good.

Israel needs to defend itself from the savage muslims

And why is that our problem? @Shadowstitcher11

What reason do we have to help Israel @Shadowstitcher11

Here's two good reasons not to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

Or when they stole our uranium

Or when they did it again

Abortion is theft

Taxation is murder

Abortion is murder

Tax is needed

I believe we should raise the minimum wage.

Actually

The minimum wage should be based off of how good the company is doing.

Raising the minimum wage is a bad idea, when McDonalds was forced to increase it they just laid off massive amounts of people and got robots to replace them. The same will happen if you continue to increase it.

Its no skill labor

so they should only be paid minimum wage

Force all companies to mainly use people and not robots.

You can't do that

Sadly.

No that's a good thing

if you have the government controlling the businesses it will slowly lead to a form of communism

I think the government should own all large companies and etc.

While the small ones are the peoples.

No that's a terrible idea

No the government gets more money.

the more dependent you make the people on the government the worse it gets

Yes but when you give the government power over large businesses you basically give them the entire economy

Yes.

which is bad

If America were to seize all of the large corporations then they get more money.

Yeah but then we would basically because a communist country at that point

which would be a complete disaster

it wouldn't work

Make sure to only debate in political channels, this is just to explain your answer.

Okay.

Bernie Sanders logic

Raise minimum wage to $30 an hour

And tax 15

25*

There’s no reason to raise the minimum wage

Well... there’s no real reason

The minimum wage should be abolished

@Shadowstitcher11

Idk about abolished

Inb4 $0.01 per hour

Yes he will win as long as the economy is doing good (like it is now) and he fulfills most of his campaign promises. Also none of the current democrat candidates look good.

The economy might go into a recession

I hope after he wins in 2020

It’s going to come but he won’t cause it

If Blumpf doesn't hand over the wall in this term, many will jump ship

Nah as long as he keeps it steady it won't go into recession

if it does go into recession Republicans will be fucked for a long time

that would mark the second time a recession has happened under a republican president

in recent times

Third if you include 2001

But of course, it’s not directly their fault; either way, they’ll be blamed

It’s probably not avoidable

yeah but anything that happens to the country under the president, good or bad, will be put on him

Trump will only win 2020 if he gets the wall complete.

If he does not then sadly he might lose.

not a might

definite

The type of people who would stop supporting Trump if he doesn't get the wall are actual retards

Do they not see how much he's trying, he's doing things more extreme than Obama and Bush combined

I guess that's the down side of having a bunch of retarded supporters who don't understand how their own government works and expect Trump to be some dictator who can get things done with the snap of a finger

You're failing to understand why many people supported him in the first place

No I actually am fully aware of why many people supported him

OK

He can’t really do anything unless Congress approves

It’s checks and balances

Trump campaigned as an outsider anti-establishment populist who would get things done for the working class. He campaigned about how regular politicians are all talk no action. So if his supporters see him not keeping his promises it goes against what Trump was preaching while he was running for President

That's right, but I don't think you understand what that means

He has already fulfilled his promises

Some of them

It means that it is not enough to be more effective than his predecessors

He has to be something else entirely

Yes

U know what we should investigate

You do not understand this

How don't I

I think you're just trying to debate me over something we already agree on 🤷

If you did you would not call those supporters who would not forgive him for failing to build a wall "retarded"

If you think Trump was going to become President and be able to easily get anything he wanted done is clueless about how our government works or the political landscape

How is it that we only get 5% of our oil from OPEC, but yet when they shut down one refinery or something, it effects the entire us gas market?

They would rather see him bring the country to collapse than concede to the pressure of the liberal establishment

Some yes, some no

it is not cluelessness but absolutism that would have some supporters leave him

Ann Coulter for example, one of the retards who would keep the gov shut down indefinitely since she has no sympathy for the 800,000 people who weren't getting paid

I'm another one of those retards

Maybe retard is a wrong word since Ann Coulter is smart enough to know that dems won't cave in

Trying to think of new word brb

let it burn if it is too corrupt to put good security measures in place

Let what burn

I would really rather see the US government collapse right now, rather than see the status quo continue indefinitely

Lol

I am fine with the shutdown

Ah so you're an authoritarian

I am a pragmatist

but the extreme population density and technological advances of our time have made libertarianism obsolete

You're willing to see the destruction of America in order for a wall

....

they've made democracy obsolete as well

and that's a stupid thing to say

I said I'd see the collapse of the American government

And what replaces it? lol

that is far from being the same thing as America

The American government won’t collapse

I hope not

But it’s the fact that we have a swamp in dc

Nothing will get done

Explain

What do you guys mean by swamp

It goes so far beyond DC my friend

It is old and entrenched and widespread as you can imagine

Politicians are lying and millennials are believing it

people who disagree with you? (aka liberals) or how campaign finance and corporate lobbying has corrupted a large portion of our congress and government?

How the fuck does AOC get in office with her ideas

People agree with her

She’s more of a socialist than people in Venezuela

no she's actually not

That’s the problem

Economically they are similar socially they are completely different

People don’t want to work, and they want others to fund their benefits

Lincoln was right, we are changing our ideals and destroying ourselves

?

How are we changing our ideals

Socialistic values

California

What about it

They dont have free healthcare or college lol

It’s not that they have

It’s the push for it

People are fighting over a wall

They have politicized it so much that we are literally fighting over it

Everything is politicized

When you say they, you should mean EVERYONE

Everyone is politicized

There is no legitimate argument for not building a wall. The opposition is purely globalist and anti-white.

It’s to the point that the media is slandering teenagers because they are conservatives

Not everything is anti-white

Lol

My mom doesn't support the wall but she's not anti-white

She's kind of racist actually

Actually almost everything in media and politics is

The opposition is the race card or people are just stupid enough not to realize that they are breaking our laws by coming here illegally

Take a look at how many interracial couples are portrayed in advertisement and movies and TV

What's wrong about that

I'm interracial myself lol

You poor bastard

Explain

I couldn’t give two shits what race you are

Thank you

I dont think this other guy has those opinions

You will forever suffer for being torn between two worlds

Not really I'm proud of both of my countries

If you come here illegally, you shouldn’t be given benefits that Americans have to work hard to get

You do not know what pride is

Yes

you have only a sad immitation of it

I take pride in being Greek

I’m pride in being Irish

I also take pride in being Puerto Rican

Jesus

And Jewish-Hungarian

I'm also mainly proud to be American

JESUS

Lol

What's the difference between being half German half Irish and half Greek and half Puerto Rican?

“This is indigenous land “

I guess one of the countries has darker skin so it's bad?

There is a far greater difference in phenotypes that's true

Germans caused ww1 and ww2

Meh

but they are much more genetically and culturally seperated

Greeks have a bad economy

Sadly yes

We're improving 😄

I identify as American over anything else @Deleted User

I understand that

And AOC has Puerto Rican ancestry

😃

It is the strange new brand of patriotism that has allowed the USA to become so prosperous as a multicultural nation

It's been multicultural for over a century

I know

We need to keep our the Palestinians though

Why lol

And hamas

And ISIS

in fact it always has been, there's a reason the UK banned slaves in its own land

Yes I dont know why you're grouping in ISIS with Palestinians lol

Have u read the quorum

I haven’t

Lol

they knew it was bad to invite blacks onto their soil, even as subjects

But they think of women as second

Yes

Multiculturalism doesn't work anywhere outside of the USA

It actually works nowhere