Oo

Sounds fun

Take a look at these and see what you like: https://discordbots.org/tag/fun

/cries, so many to choose from ;w;

I’m linking the OwO one to my wow guild though, I think that one would go down well there xD

Rhythm is a good music bot imo

Get the bot System. It’s great for server management as well as protecting against raids.

We should also have the standard of joining have a verified email.

Just incase we get raided

The fuck is this "man are human" nonsence? I'm a walrus bitch. Don't assume my species.

@Tablecloth that won’t really help things tbh

If you’re worried about that, then the cooldown time is what you need.

@Jango Harrison Which one is that?

@Red Korvo Maybe human can be walrus tho?

🤔

https://imgur.com/gallery/ZonRG

I like them, they're funny creatures.

they are flabby

I'm gonna leap out of this before people start posting Fat Pride memes. XD

I like 'em big, I like 'em chunky 😉

@Jango Harrison I found the system bot you mean, I think, but I'm not sure what it does exactly. https://discordbots.org/bot/system

@Tablecloth Could you tell me how to do that? My research isn't coming up with anything.

go to server settings

then security I belive

Ah

There's no security button

This might be why I haven't found it

There's two step authentication - but that's something else

Don't worry. I'll sort it out. In the mean time, here's a video from the reddit that I found interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=Ef47Nzz-qq4&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dga7zkR5jtrw%26feature%3Dshare

I've known this for a while (because of the CDC study), but I don't think a whole lot of people know this.

And a fury-inducing bonus news article that conflates the men's rights movement with terrorism and white nationalism.

"Are men's movements a new form of terrorism? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)" - https://redd.it/a05p9q

Archive link to article https://archive.is/VAxtB

Found it!

It’s in moderation.

Are men's movements a new form of terrorism?

Everything is terrorism if you don't like it.

I'd agree with them about the white supremacists, but they are conflating them with us and other equality groups. It's literally the same thing I wrote about in this article: https://menarehuman.com/all-fun-and-games/

Haven't had any feedback on that one, so go nuts if you find an error.

@Tablecloth Thanks! I'll take a look

@Tablecloth Turns out it was already on, lol. I forgot I'd activated it.

Some really really shitty stuff going on here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a07wwq/saw_this_in_a_youtube_section_its_another_example/

Hello fellow men

wrong

there are women here too (I think)

well I only wanna talk to my fellow men

my brothers, my grooms, my manly mans

Umm I just think men's rights and women's rights are plain dumb

right

how so

and why would you come here?

@Doodle Fair enough, but we aren't going to ban the ladies. In fact - we have no way of even enforcing that. We're all just egalitarians with a particular interest in helping males as we see them in crisis. If you just want to hang out with the guys instead of getting involved you could go to <#515244964083531825>

No, they couldn't do that

Because we aren't going to ban women from coming here for one guy who 'only wanna talk to my fellow men'

@InsaneCaterpilla Absolutely. We'd be excluding a huge number of our best supporters and activists

So what's going on tonight then?

Or this morning, or whenever. XD

Watching buffy, working out, and playing let's go pikachu

Cool. I always liked some Buff

Got an urge to watch The Gentlemen or one of the other novelty eposodes

I haven't seen it for years but Amazon put it on for free so decided to watch it all

Never liked the later seasons though

FOR FREE?

Well on prime video anyway

That's out of character

Oh, I see

so you do pay

just by subscription

I never got prime for the shows/movies so to me it's kind of free

I thought it was pretty unlike them XD

So you can watch it with just prime?

Yea. It was on there before where you had to pay but they moved it to prime shows

And yes I agree that the series just gets worse after Dawn appears

@Men Are Human did you see that level up appear here or did only I see that?

I saw it

It should be in the lounge

Maybe there's a different redirect for the levels and the pokemon spawns

Maybe

I can disable all levelup messages

They should be gone now

Pity, though!

I guess they can still be checked with p!info

Anyone else see this by the way:

The week in misandry | Regular update from men's rights-supporting columnist Corrine Barraclough - https://redd.it/a05z8z

https://www.spectator.com.au/2018/11/the-week-in-misandry-6

The amount of sass in that summery gives me life

Also on the point a bit up, I am a Woman... and I love my men, I love my dad and my brother and my boyfriend and I only want the best for them... my dad is also illiterate so I read out a lot of the thing on here and other sites for him 😃

nice

@Abbysol She is glorious isn't she? :D

She is literally one in a million

@Abbysol Good on you for helping out your dad and loving your family too. There's too much hate in this world, and it hurts me to see how many people don't have any kind of love for their own family.

I don’t have a lot of love for my mother, lol, she was an abusive alcoholic that treated me like shit until the day she kicked me out, my dad more or less saved me, so yeah, I would happily give my heart for him.

@Abbysol That's awful, but I'm glad you have the rest of your family!

@Men Are Human Maybe some people don't love their own family, but that's not always totally without reason...

@InsaneCaterpilla Don't worry, I wasn't implying she should have to love a mother like that - or anyone. I hope I wasn't insensitive at all, @Abbysol it wasn't my intention.

Na, all good, I think it just needs some context since I have been accused of being an MRA because “I’m only doing it to impress the men” when in reality the things that you guys work towards are things that effected me personally, I honestly don’t know if any male feminist that can honestly say the same, and yet here we are.

You mean you got the reverse 'your're only a male feminist to get with the ladies' routine? 😆

yeah, not even kidding, it was... an interesting experience... it exists

Wow. XD

I'd be interested to see how many other things are gender flipped like that.

I think a bit, you would be surprised, I've been told I'm self loathing, Brainwashed by the patriarchy, that I am subservient, it is insanity, so I can empathize with the male feminists a bit in that regard, I think it is just a response to something that otherwise doesn't make sense to some kinds of people, they jump to conclusions to try and make sense of it.

Yeah, I can understand that. I have heard those ones - I've even seen them in a school textbook back in secondary school.

Honestly, I hate using the word 'brainwashed' because it's such an easy go to. Everyone is indoctrinated, IMO.

Sorry you have to hear all of those, by the way. I doubt it gets easier each time.

I think the reason the do it is because they are locked into some kind of men vs women tribalism, so they see you as a traitor.

Hmm

Maybe with time we can change the bias against men in court

That’s a big part of why we need more awareness of male rights I guess

@Tablecloth I have no idea where that just came from

*stops silently watching in the background*

@Tablecloth It's possible. I think the first step is creating widespread empathy.

Maybe the dislike of men starts at a young age? Maybe they just want attention?

@Abbysol Hey, you know, you seem to have had a lot of different experiences with all kinds of awful gender things. Would you be interested in writing about a few of them for www.menarehuman.com at all? I'd really like to hear about a few.

it’s kinda confusing.

I do think a lot of feminist talking points are directly connected to MRA points, if people could just get their heads out of the asses for 5 min and actually listen instead of jumping to conclusions... Women are expected to be Primary Caregivers? let Fathers be dads? Girls being under diagnosed with disorders such as Autism and ADHD? stop over diagnosing boys and demonizing the illnesses ! dont like Little girls getting their clits cut? then maybe you should think twice about cutting boys so casually.... I could go on

Some of the more extreme groups I believe are after attention.

Also circumsiciosn on men

Why is it legal to do it to boys and not girls.

also who cooked up the idea of cutting off someone’s foreskin geez.

Religion?... idk... that's the excuse to be able to do it anyway

In the US it was Kellogg, a cereal manufacturer, who popularised it as a way to curb men's sexual appetites

huh

That is how circumcision was normalised in the US

Also I’ve noticed that some people have the mentality that people who believe in male rights are somewhat “far-right” nazis.

yeah, seen plenty of that

some Australian politicians tried to support some of the issues but backpedaled very quick when they got feminist backlash

also this idea that MRAs are anti-LQBT+... the only person I know IRL that is also MRA is the gayest man I know, and I hung out with him at a Lesbians house xD

What I am saying (very poorly) is we are a much more diverse bunch then we get credit for 😄

@Abbysol Cleanliness and stopping boys being promiscuous is the real reason. Circumcision dates all the way back. It may be as old as trepanating. I've seen examples from African tribes and anchent Egyptian texts. I don't think we can even say who invented the idea.

@Abbysol There are indeed loads of gay MRAs and plenty who want to be gay, lol. I can understand why. If you are gay the divorce court can't favour anyone female. Personally I find I like that we have very equal relationships.

@Tablecloth That's indeed the case. Anyone got any ideas on how to undermine the idea we are all Nazis? Denying it won't help much, but there has gotta be a way.

Lock anyone who calls us nazis in a camp somewhere.

Truly would be the final solution.

wouldn't that be a very nazi thing to do? xD

guess i had better go get my brown coat

But in all seriousness I think more organisations need to come out as specifically MRA. The few that exist ATM try to ignore the label

In all honesty I wouldn't know what more would help. Our arguments are perfectly fine but people either don't care about them or are willingly blind to them.

no, I think the problem is they only care if it even remotely sounds like something they can get outraged at.

Plenty of men's issues are things to be outraged at

But the majority of people couldn't care less

It takes people actually caring and not minimising the issues.

I know Feminists blame MRAs with our whataboutisms but they still reign supreme at that. Or they just blame it on men and continue to ignore it

or blame it on "Patriarchy" and then claim they are not blaming men

Let's face it we know they mean men

pretty sure they know they mean men

This is a big part of the the reason my site is so heavy on the accounts and personal experiences of victims of sexual assault and so on. If we can raise empathy we can get people to care.

Everything on there is about paying this stuff bare, as painful as it can be.

It's very very hard for a Feminist or anyone to look the damage they are doing in the face and realise the human cost - but this is at least one way to do it effectively.

Maybe we need to have a dedicated writing team to complain to people like the BBC. It does change things. I have actually made them alter an article (though not about a gender subject)

I try and not focus on any particular group standing in the way. Because you can always go back and forth blaming Feminism or men.

I think straight up advocating specifically issue to issue long run is the way to go.

When anyone (Feminists) oppose it they are the one that look like arse holes.

Oh definitely. The BBC was really just an example. We should do loads. Maybe have a weekly target.

Oh the Letter writing thing sounds like a good idea

Would be a good way to use the <#515246196374372380> channel.

Okay. So, who should we Concerned Citizen the shit out of first? ;D

MPs might be a start.

MPs are always a good target - except in America.

I know it's kind of a stretch but if people start actually voicing concerns to the people who can make a change more votes might happen

Oo yeah

Damn right.

Is that men's day debate in the commons still going ahead?

The really late one?

We should target key MPs

I don't know. I heard it's scheduled late on a really busy day so it may not even be gotten to.

Yeah. That sounds deliberate. Bloody politics

I already called it when they moved the date. This is a classic move.

We need to put that in the emails. Say it looks suspicious to anyone who knows politics.

It was supposedly set for the 23rd but I can't find any record of it happening

Sounds about right. Put it off and then shuffle it out of existence while everyone is losing interest.

People might not ever realise. It's so you forget about it happing.

Okay. Any ideas on which ones to target?

Hey, so what's up tonight?

Oh local MPs are the way to go. They have to take your interest to heart as a constituent. Fortunately for me it's both a conservative and a woman. So maybe there might be both rationality and woman points instead of a labour dismissal.

Which is unfortunate considering I would generally consider my self more left wing.

Isn’t it great being left leaning and still being told that you are an alt-right neo nazi? xD

Lol

Obviously you're a shill trying to prove liberals are more alt right than even those on the alt right would go

If that makes sense

I love the server dead zone.

Unless there was a massive purge I missed.

Well we had a whole discussion on targettong hospitals with bombs but we chose to delete it

Gotcha

Well, I survived the purge.

xD

Most fun 12 hours ever.

I’ve been in college classes all day

Looking forward to the next one.

I miss the fun

I survived the purge despite being the Infiltrator! #plottwist

I didn't live through it, but my hatred of this world has tethered me to it forever more as a lingering ghost

People just don't get my sense of humour >.<

@Men Are Human I suggest an introduction channel

As well as a support channel

What would they both be used for

Introduction is self explanatory. Support is for when we have no one left to turn to.

Introduction I would think is fine for the lounge..

Everyone has a moment when they break down, and not everyone has someone that’ll be there when it happens.

Introductions need to be separate to make it easier to refer to

The lounge isn’t a locked channel

Oh, you mean an introduction to men's rights? It wasn't self explanatory, I thought you meant people introducing themselves when they first come here

That’s what I mean

We’re a community. Instead of having to ask someone’s name, age, location, etc, it should be easy to find in a specific channel, like an intro.

Why would you want to lock an introduction channel

By locked I mean it serves a very specific purpose. No casual conversation

People will post there once and that’s it

Not everyone is gonna be comfortable giving all that info

Forget it

K. I seem to have arrgravated you in some way so I apologise

Well you could do it less with info and more just a Hi, and then what you are hoping to get out of the movement or just why you are here, that way it could be easier for everyone to be on the same page ?

An intro is an intro. I couldn’t care less about what people put in it.

But it should be there in case we need it.

If someone doesn’t want to write one, oh well. We aren’t kicking them out over it.

It’s there for people who want it

If someone were to have a breakdown, me for example, I wouldn’t want someone referring to me as Jango.

You wouldn’t want to be called Abbysol

Etc

Tbh I thought that was your real name

And I thought you where really an Insane Caterpillar 😮

I'm actually a cat. My avatars is a pic of me. Sometimes I think I'm a caterpillar cause I'm insane

See, it all makes sense now!

But in all honesty I do get what you are saying, but I think if things are that stressful you are probably better off going into DMs with someone, that little bit of privacy can help a lot if it is something that personal

Also since anyone can join the discord, it may not be that safe (though that would be in an extreme scenario, it is still a concern)

So what's your guy's opinions on #thotaudit

It’s pointless

The irs doesn’t handle personal cases

It still begs the question

?

If sex work is real work why isn't it taxed?

A lot of things go untaxed

because it is unregulated

Doesn’t make it right

it should be regulated, it would make it safer for the sex workers too

I totally agree

<#515246258571575297>

According to Phillip DeFranco the types of cam girls and Snapchat girls do have to pay taxes. If they aren't keeping a track of those earnings they're going to find themselves in trouble.

Cam girls and twitch streamers probably aren't that stupid. But I wouldn't put it past the odd Snapchat girl sending nudes to college frats.

As for prostitution. It's illegal anyway. The government don't collect taxes on drug money either, unless it's laundered.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a121ol/mom_is_preparing_6_year_old_trans_kid_for

The hell. Does anyone know any more about this ^

No but it looks insane if it's accurate

Whether it's accurate or not idk but it's definitely insane the way it's portrayed... If I can find out more about it and it is, then it wouldn't be the first thing that surprised me about how backwards the world can be

The article keeps using the dichotomy of what the child does when he's with Mom or what he does when he's with Dad. Nobody has independently talked to the child on their own. Or observed him in a neutral environ

Environment

Even if that's true, the courts are telling the father things like he can't choosevhis child's clothes for him, while the mother's taken him to some specialist and worked with them to diagnose him with gender disphoria based on her word

And I don't think it is true

"Eyewitness accounts from friends corroborate dad’s observations of James preferring to be a boy. Bill Lovell, the senior pastor of Christ Church Carrollton, wrote: “Based on the three occasions I’ve spent time with him, I’d say he acts and looks unmistakably like a healthy six-year-old boy. … I am praying for James, an average six-year-old boy, a sweet-natured, intelligent, lovable and at this point particularly vulnerable young man, caught up in a titanic clash of worldviews.”