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I hope Trump changes things for the better.
trump = gpoat
@WarOfTheFanboys He campaigned on not interfering in unnecessary foreign wars and ramping down activity in Syria.
Yes, Trump DEFINITELY wanted to reduce LEGAL immigration.
This is what the RAISE act would do. It would cut legal immigration by 50%, end the H-1B visa and end lottery and chain migration.
Trump was going to significantly reduce the legal immigration but cucked super hard. AGAIN.
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he can't do it alone moron
@desperado you make Trump supporters look like cult-following degenerates. Why are you so afraid to express any rational criticism?
How are you guys okay with the fact that he campaigne on wanting to reduce legal immigration and then states in his SOTU address that he wants to accept more immigrants?
I think it is even more sad that openly criticizing reasonable disappointments places me in the category of a "never trumper."
This is transparent projection.
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Trumps wants legal immigrants with skills
not a bunch of worthless refugees to suck on our money
people with skills immigrating here will not be on welfare and here to get free stuff
division between idiots...https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/aoc-fights-pelosi-impeachment-see?fbclid=IwAR09rt8noi7xSIsvBLn16M0xEf87zf6OXcwVHCLPSUcWMGn_llqsaBIO9XE
@desperado do you understand what the RAISE act is?
Second question: does the US need low-skilled workers from third world countries with a lower standard of living?
no. it needs employers willing to hire and train Americans, and pay them standard wages.
@BaRbArIaN im happy you say that.
What about high skilled immigrants? Do we need them?
too many Rinos take donations fron businesses that exploit aliens as a cheap workforce so want no questions asked.
@BaRbArIaN based.
High skilled maybe some, but if you advertise skilled jobs that pay skilled wages, they will have interest.
In regards to High skilled workers; Google, a very leftist company, donates to conservative outlets to peddle the "we need high skilled workers in America" nonsense.
Some labor markets are different than others.
Google benefits from hiring IT workers on an H-1B visa from places like India.
They are the mexicans of the high skilled market.
We dont need immigrants. High skilled or low.
They used to train from within.
We import so many foreigners to saturate the medical field. It is ridiculous. We can train our own Americans for the job.
yes
A college degree in the STEM field is a very risky investment. It is unfair to a college graduate that he needs to compete with a third worlder on a visa because corporate conservative shills that are paid by the Wilks and Koch brothers that 'America needs high skilled workers.'
It is a blatant lie and it hurts our American graduates.
This can be explained ridiculously easily.
Supply amd demand. It isn't even economics 101. It is grade school logic.
indeed. I've known some H1 types, they toil for maybe 60% of what an American software guy does and are happy to get that.
We understand that illegals that saturate the low skill labor market displaces American and reduces wages but for some reason, oversaturating the medical field and IT jobs with foreigners is good?? This makes zero sense.
exactly dollars and cents maybe, not sense.
@BaRbArIaN i tend not to incorporate anecdotal evidence but I also know an animator that had to compete with Indains that produce animation at a fraction of what any American is comfortable working with.
yes.
I am against illegal and legal immigration and I support ending outsourcing.
Trump disappointed me when he said he wanted more immigrants.
sometimes it backfires tho. I worked for a company that tried India workers, their skills were crap and had to spend more man hours to get it mostly right so no savings, dropped it in 6 months.
comms were bad too.
I wish more Trump supporters would stop listening to corporate shills like Ben Shapiro, Turning Point USA, Crowder, PragerU etc.
will code for food!
I hope he gets that he's not following thru fast enough.
I try to be reasonable. I knew from day one that Mexico wasn't going to DIRECTLY pay for the wall in any way so I never really criticized him for it. I knew it was going to be at the tax payers expense. Im very disappointed how he chose the tax cuts for the One time a year senate majority proposal instead one of the more important things like the wall or RAISE act
I haven't checked on how he is doing with Planned Parenthood. That sounds more like a second term goal so I wont be too critical about it.
The only reason I will even vote for him in 2020 is because I admire his stance against political correctness, his accomplishments with North Korea aaaaand thats pretty much it.
I dont give a shit about minority unemployment or how many degenerates arent on welfare anymore. Those figures have zero impact on me.
I was really optimistic that he was going to do something about the Chicago violence because this is something that I care about the most.
I was hoping he would implement stop and frisk and be tougher on criminals, but it seems that with his justice reform agenda, he made a 180 on this also.
Criminals and distributors of drugs need to be punished. Not coddled and given second chances.
I wonder if he is convinced to backpedal by his son in law Jared and daughter Ivanka.
Who knows. All i know is that once the Dems start approving and supporting Trump, it is too late.
yes
someone should tell him to get serious
**HIGH SCHOOL & COLLEGIATE FRAUD NATIONWIDE BY CORRUPT TEACHERS, COACHES, AND ADMINS.**
https://youtu.be/tC_g4lgYN7Y
**BREAKING NEWS TODAY**
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https://twitter.com/MLevineReports/status/1105488338096656385
Crazy, and Judaism they are ok with? They hate all other religions! http://www.unitedstatesofindifferences.com/2019/03/bernie-sanders-says-christianity-is.html?fbclid=IwAR2KWUsinGgHp_4-OqJztpk6gPMac4cSQGiWlFmthys_O9dX_ksLej_GJoQ
Make All Governments Accountable.
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teachers in some schools are idiots now..https://defiantamerica.com/texas-7th-grader-deny-god/
@BaRbArIaN i think you will enjoy this.
It is 15 minutes long and worth every second.
https://youtu.be/5N4tlM8RUIc
We are their mercenaries.
To be fair, Iran is not a bunch of innocents, at least the regime.
@BaRbArIaN definitely not. Im not a fan of Iran or anything in the Middle East.
What is an interesting social phenomenon is how quickly you will be chastised by 'pro free speech' conservatives for even daring to be skeptical of Israel.
I have been called a leftist, a shill for Islam and a Trump hater for expressing these sentiments.
I think the taboo is what makes this an even more enticing subject that makes me want to explore it further.
I also dislike the large numbers who think being jewish is like a World Crime League (tm) or something. It's not like they all get handed a manual of evil scheming at 13 or something. There are bad ones galore, nepotism everywhere, and a lot of hype. Not. every. jew.
too simple.
Im only trying to introduce people into the perspective that Zionists in America are lobbying politicans to fight for their wars and to fund them with our tax dollars.
I dont care what happens in the middle east, just keep the US out of it. This is why muslims in the middle east despise Americans so much.
I agree, they have their nukes and can defend themselves with detante.
I think we should still trade as allies tho.
@Mister Johnson Why are you so bitter? Do you have any joy in your life? Every fucking thing you say is bitching, whining, and nay saying. Any reason for that?
@rsashe1980 Is this not a server where we are allowed to express ideas pertaining to the right wing perspective?
I could be a naive optimist that boldly and blindly thinks that everything orange man does is amazing, but I chose to rationally assess things before offering my insight and avoid following mainstream opinion only because it would be "morally right" to do so.
@Mister Johnson It is of course but does being "Right Wing" mean joyless assholes?
I've expressed good things about Trump and bad things.
Not problem with that
even calling balls and strikes I don't want a echo chamber
but my man. Have a little fun in life
all i'm saying
Discord isn't my life. I only come here to express my views regarding political topics. Unfortunately, politics is an ugly mental sport. There is hardly ever anything positive to discuss when engaging in politics.
I welcome discussions with people with opposing perspectives in hopes that I can mature intellectually.
I don't think you're completely wrong in that political conversations and definitely get dark and dry. I've been doing this for over 3 years and a very used to a lot the concepts that I see you guys talking about in here. It again on the person that even when I was starting up the Donald with another group of moderators over at Reddit recognized the harsh realities of the implications of the things that we are talking about but at the same time it is very important not to become so callous that everything you think or say is the end-all-be-all of every argument I would even say to you that to take ourselves too seriously as people of like mind lends itself to the perception of pseudo intellectualism that is fostered by the left
Im only trying to bring discussions that I feel people may find interesting.
It isn't my intention to only present unpleasant perspectives or to appear 'too serious.'
I think it is healthy to challenge Trump when he has done wrong so that we dont present ourselves as a group that follows Trump in a cult-like manner.
all good not real issues here
you dont appear neo nazi etc
im fine
Hello
Nice to meet ya all
@Night_Nine ๐
https://youtu.be/NHKOdwGAvu8
Transvestite supports Trump's views on trans in the military. Explains feelings of regret after transitioning and physical complications and permanent deformities as a result of hormone therapy.
Short vid. Worth a watch.
<southern drawl> Y'all ain't gonna believe this shit!</southern drawl> https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1105804248380465152?s=09
Guys
Anybody have any idea of a Dutch platform similar to this one?
I cant find shit
Dutch can use this too! ๐
Trump's failed 2014 bid for Buffalo Bills at center of NY attorney general investigation.
We got Drumpf now guys, the walls are closing in!
lol
is FB broken rn?
respond accordingly
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Beta Cuck 2020
lol
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Beto Defeato...
the memes will be even better BC I think Obama will back Beto over Biden
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Piiing
Older brother says Beto is dangerous
Whatโs your guys thoughts?
He is VERY dangerous.
Vanilla Obama
masquerades as a champion of the working class.
I think only fools would take it lightly
the Left is ignorant to vote for him in droves
Yes
How do we prevent him from winning the election ?
Trump will and we MAGA and not divide
we take care of business
Correct
Beto is not a threat. He couldn't even beat Ted Cruz.
He's an even more beta version of Barry Obama.
Yang is potentially more dangerous. He proposes reasonable policies to regulate the Big Tech's that control the online public space and supress free speech. This is huge for conservatives.
He is also addressing the dangers of automation. Im not in favor of a UBI but we need to understand that automation is the nature of technological progress and with it will come the destruction of many many jobs.
Self driving cars will destroy a huuuuuge chunk of the job market. This is a very very serious issue.
If Yang flips on gun control and becomes anti-immigration, we could potentially be looking at Trump's replacement.
New to discord chat. Thought I would come by & listen in.
Does anyone care to respond to my comment on why I think Yang is a greater threat than any other candidate running?
๐พ ๐ฆ ๐ณ ๐ฌ is the way to go brothers!
yang memes are allowed here?
@Louis only if you wire me your 1k a month in Yang Cash.
Gotta admit, thats a gnarly hat design.
Very Gta Vice City esque.
Tucker is based.
Warren has zero sympathy for the parents that were caught. Lol, the hypocrisy.
I really hate when people try to brag about Obama's daughters and their academic acheivements for getting into prestigious colleges like Harvard.
It was never based on merit. Their very powerful parents had it done through bribery, coersion or some other very corrupt and immoral method.
They wouldnโt need to cheat, the name gets them in
5 minute video. This broad is so so so dumb.
Sloan makes her look like such a degenerate.
@Mister Johnson Yang isn't a threat at this point because he's not polling well enough.
That's pretty much all there is to it at this point.
@WarOfTheFanboys yeah thats because Yang is a cuck on gun control, immigration, justice reform, etc.
It is still very early and often candidates switch on key issues to pander to a larger demographic so if he turns conservative on those issues-- watch out Donny.
I'll bet every dollar that Trump will win. I don't see him not getting a second term.
Trumps says he wants to take guns without due process and that america needs more immigration though
True. I have been unrelenting-ly critical of him for this.
Alt I didn't realize you were fake news
He said so in CPAC and in his SOTU.
But with yang you get $1000
@alt that's a 2 year old out of context remark about getting guns from people who have been committed for mental health issues
Im very disappointed that Trump understands that his supporters are being deplatformed and he does not do anything to address the Big 3 companies that control 95% of the online public square.
No that's a 1 year old remark where he said take the guns first
Tbh, I really dont give a shit about Trump making bump stocks illegal.
From people who were committed for serious issues
Also Trumps going back on pulling troops too, now he says he will keep a bunch in syria
400
400 too many
@WarOfTheFanboys, i know it is tough for you amd Desperado, but you need to acknowledge that Trump has disappointed his supporters in many many issues.
It doesnt make you a Lefty or a Never Trumper for doing so.
@alt1 is too many.
Trump hasn't disappointed me at all
There's been 0 miles of new border wall built, and the wall he builds to replace old wall is just a fence
The only people disappointed are alt right cucks who thought Trumo was a white supremacist
Are you upset that he promised to stay out of the middle east? Bombed Syria twice and wants to keep troops in Syria?
How about cutting Legal immigration by half with the RAISE act and then is now asking for more immigration?
How about not enforcing the 1st amendment to his supporters that have been victim of the liberal agenda on the internet?
None of those are real things.
How about thr Omnibus bill which provided 1 trillion dollar in foreign aid.
@WarOfTheFanboys bruh.
How about spending so much time on getting a tax cut instead of actually important issues like border wall, end DACA, no new wars etc
@alt so true.
Alt, Trump supporters want lower taxes and we got them
I love Trump but he has been dissapointing me. A lot.
@WarOfTheFanboys lower CORPORATE taxes.
The lower individual taxes are only temporary and much smaller than the company taxes
Yeah, it helped the working man for a year or maybe two but it really only helps the multi national corporations as long as they continue to lobby congress for open borders and more h-1b visas.
So you're upset you got a cookie because you wanted two?
I'm upset I got 1 cookie while jeff bezos got 6
Thanks trump very cool
@WarOfTheFanboys dude. Please open your eyes.
The cuckoldry here is astounding
Amazon paid $0 in taxes this year
@WarOfTheFanboys why do you have to insult us?
Mister Johnson just whines about minorities all the time
They have to go back
Attack me all you want but Trump is a disappointment to his true supporters.
Ann Coulter points out how Trump is fucking out and trump just calls her an idiot
Hur dur no true supporter would stand for this
I did not get alienated, attacked and lose half my friends to defend a Cuck.
You probably were alienated for your open racism that gives sensible Trump supporters a bad name
@WarOfTheFanboys you are de-legitimizing my genuine criticism of Trump. Stop belittling me on the basis that you cant accept that Trump is lost.
No I just want the 1000 mile long 40 feet high wall that was promised
We want the wall. He could have had the one time a year half majority to use on getting the wall but instead he chose tax cuts for the corporations.
Alt apparently you missed the part where Trump shut the Gov down for 35 days then declared a national emergency
He could have chose the wall, DACA recending, RAISE ACT EVEN DEFENDING FREE SPEECH ON THE INTERNET
And then opened without getting anything
It should've still be shut down
Hey @alt are you tired of winning yet?
Yeah I'm pretty tired
@Mister Johnson all I see from you is pathetic concern trolling
We elected a millionaire playboy with a trophy wife. I blame myself.
There needs to be new legislation requirering all legal speech to be allowed on open forums/parts of the internet
@WarOfTheFanboysall i see from you is denial.
Where you pick out nuanced issues and then act like Trump betrayed his base
@Mister Johnson you seem like you have no intent on MAGA
Yes i do
You are a forum sliding concern troll
Youre misdirecting your anger. It is fine. Im not upset at you. @WarOfTheFanboys
Let me ask you war, what did trump get from opening the governemt? Didn't he say he'd never sign a bill like the omnibuss again?
Im hoping Trump will go into Full Trump mode after he wins the 2020 election. Rn, it would be too much of a liability. Sounds like wishful thinking but ehhh
I haven't abandoned Trump yet but I am tired of the 'hes the best we got, at least he isn't Hillary' excuse.
Trump says on twitter just now there's major construction on new border wall, but that's not true is it?
I dunno google it
There's been lots of video of the construction
Is there a secret wall?
New wall?
Or fence replacing already existing fence?
from what I understand, the current budget is providing upgrades to the existing wall
and the national emergency will fund the new construction
you know, that thing you apparently missed
Trump has been pushing the wall harder than ever
to suggest otherwise is to pretend the past three months didn't happen
Either way, the bill ststes that the wall construction can be vetoed depending on the county. Good luck getting s liberal county to approve wall construction.
The wall was his major campaign promise.
and has Trump flipped on the wall?
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