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What does it have to do with the price of tea in China...
Itโs been more like cuddle fish
@Livingstone too fictiony
Sorry
They say cephalopods are pretty smart
The question was supposed to invoke a moment of reflection... Clearly I failed.
The House just passed a Bill getting the stimulus check to $2,000 actually some some GOP Support.... Think it dies on Moscow Mitch's desk or fails on the floor after a vote?
I can't imagine he will let them vote on it
We've got missile strikes on NSA listening posts tied to voter machine audit fraud?
Come on.
If he doesnโt sign or let them bring it to a vote it would give a bad image to republicans and they donโt need that right now because of the GA runoff.
Yarn goes on and on...
This s*** ties together s*** that...idk
@busillis Kraken is the nickname of the 305th Intelligence Batallion in AZ. https://repub.li/lt-general-says-kraken-is-305th-military-intelligence-battalion/
that looks like a phoenix banged a scorpion which banged a chicken
I look that up I'm not sure that's real?
Or at least I couldn't find it...
It sounds like you're cracking the code...
Iโve decided I m gonna try and be a nicer person for news years
Thank god for that
Cobra Kai is coming out on Jan 1
Time to get hype
Heck yes!
'lets come together now that i've called you all nazi racist bigots not even worthy of life'
This looks like the most promising case to get electoral votes nixed so far.
We. Are. Being. Played.
That is all.
There are โrumorsโ that a positive Covid test is likely to test possible for flu strain A and or B but the doctor is afraid of losing his job and being blacklisted so he is only publishing data without his name attached.
By rumors I mean itโs published data and by possible I mean that itโs been proven.
So funny... Most people are actively trying to minimize the spread of a virus. It just so happens that these same measures work for preventing the spread of other viruses... like... the... flu... virus... How is that getting played? That's called science and the exact thing that you would expect to happen given the circumstances.
I thought people weren't following them. Which is it.
There is a chance I may be wrong, but i doubt it. This looks like the actual conference from 12/27/2020...
Doctors would lose their jobs for providing false CoVid positive results. Hospitals are losing money like crazy. It is in the best interest for hospitals to downplay the effects of the CoVid pandemic - not inflate them. That argument defies logc - literally.
Russia is anti Ukraine obviously, and will say that this is an "agent". There are facts that are facts and bank records... those are not fake
The vast majority of people here in CA are following them. You see stories about 400 people in Huntington complaining about the restrictions. 400 people in a city of 200K... In a county of 3.2m.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8fnRW2NQSc for those of you who wonder what i'm talking about ----- UKRAINE INFO ON BIDEN
At no point did I say that it was false information. All that the data proposes is that a positive Covid test has plenty of the same markers as a positive flu strain a and or flu strain b. ๏ฟผ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTbPWcTLjA8&feature=youtu.be I'm sorry I just realized this is in Russian, but there is more juicy stuff there
Also hospitals get more money for Covid related illness and unfortunately death. Thatโs been proven.
It was posted here on 11/19: https://discordapp.com/channels/760945067107680286/771202177930493962/779146937537921064
Correlation between government lockdown measures and death rate.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.604339/full
https://www.rt.com/usa/495200-coronavirus-motocycle-crash-mistake-florida/ Doctors have already lost their job for speaking out. Nurses have lost their jobs for speaking out. Technicians and corners have lost their jobs for speaking out. It is only until people are pressured to reveal the truth that they fault. Because in what way is a motorcycle accident the electoral count ever to have an official cause of death be coronavirus?
thank you for finding that.... i was wondering what the original posting date
11/19 does not make it not true.... its just now starting to hit US
Cbs the worst pusher for the fear campaign
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-coronavirus-2-million-cases-first-state-2020-12-24/
Nowhere remotely close to making up for what they are losing by not being able to do elective surgeries. It's simple math.
so i'm sorry, i just looked at your link. The video of witnesses was posted in discord.... So I'm assuming the conference is from 12/27
from what the guy says there was a case in Ukraine court that was won last week
We went through it back then. The supposed "proof" is non-existent. The "witness" is reading from a script. The transcripts are completely benign.
๏ฟผ would you rather have tentative, maybe it will go through elective surgeries based upon restrictions, necessity, and how elective the procedure is deemed or would you rather have guaranteed money? Guaranteed hundred patients a day, guaranteed payment on each of those, and then to receive additional funding due to ved occupancy?๏ฟผ๏ฟผ
well, its benign if you want to say... here's nothing to see. Now this is a different story - they have BANK RECORDS, they have WON the case last week in UKRAINES COURT. And they have published bragging phonecalls with Biden
It's the exact same video.
And yes, officially you can say maybe its not Biden speaking, but I can guarantee you it will match his voice if anyone does proper voice analysis
Even if you match the voice... He doesn't say anything remotely incriminating.
Well yeah it will look bad for sure.... but do you really think Mitch is gonna bring it to a vote?
I mean they can't be seen to vote against it even though it was the Republicans than wanted to reduce the payments to $600 in the first place
Trump screwed the Republicans on that one
Except we have friends that are hospital administrators and they are losing crazy amounts of money compared to the revenue that they normally bring in. This is a fake claim that CoVid deniers are spreading. It just doesn't hold water.
Covid deniers?
Just coined the term... Dibs... TM... Copyright.
Biden doesnt say anything incriminating??? LOL listen to all of it.... at some point he says he misses talking to him weekly. They giggle at shit like old buddies. Yes, he did not say, "hey, thanks for the hookup for the mil, it was helpful to pay off my 5th home...".... The BANK records say that! THE FACT THAT JOE BIDEN IS TALKING TO POROSHENKO EVERY WEEK MEANS THAT HUNTER WAS PAID FOR THE "COVER" OR "KRYSHA" (RUSSIAN FOR THE ROOF, WHICH IS A TERM USED IN RUSSIAN MAFIA THAT MEANS PROTECTION). I think you are confusing 2 videos. They did 2 conferences with same background, idiots.
I am not denying Covid exists. Who can? Lysol wipes have said it protected us from it for the past ten plus years. Coronavirus has been around. The thing that I am denying is that a test to check for a virus made from insufficient knowledge because it was based on incomplete data from China MAY also test positive for Flu A and/or B because its been proven that it has.
@Livingstone, you just advanced to level 10!
@Livingstone Every test has sensitivity and specificity below 100%
low specificity produces false positives.
incomplete data?
Rudy is old, made his money, and has nothing but truth and speaking his conscience... say whatever you want about the way he comes out on screen which is not always perfect nowadays
and the other guy is risking his life to uncover the truth
and whole bunch of other people are too
the least you can do is take them seriously
Back when the test for Covid was first being developed we were only allowed limited data from China. They were the ones who originally released the information on the virus and on virus detection. They did not give us complete data. Multiple DNA genetic markers were missing from the coronavirus. That means that the test that was developed had insufficient data. We didnโt have a complete gene sequence when we were developing the test to detect the coronavirus because we did not have a complete gene sequence of the coronavirus.๏ฟผ
Huh?
Coronaviruses are just a type of virus... like a family.
We got the sequence long ago
what are you even talking about @Livingstone ?
@Livingstone There is no complete sequence. The corona genome is constantly changing.
Please provide a reference... I would like to check it out. As I understand it, coronaviruses are what causes the common cold. Flu viruses are something different... But I am not a doctor.
this strain of corona is 10 times more infectious, the uk newly released by china strain is 30x more infectious
@Livingstone Im gonna need some more from you. Do you have a background in virology? Do you have any evidence?
i was under the impression china released the whole genome sequence. i think it was the only thing they were praised for. But also im not a doctor/virologist.
THIS IS FALSE
Again, the genome is only 30k basepairs, and constantly changing.
Ok... no clue what that has to do with what I am saying.
CoVid 19 is one of many Coronaviruses. How do we not all know this already?
it checks specifically for COVID not even corona
lol
@Livingstone fox news?
wow
cactus, cactii, virus, virii
just wow
lost track of thought... the test does not crossreact with influenza
Take it up with Apple's corrective text
The video posted 12/27 is the exact same video that was posted 11/18. It is not a new video. The Trump administration has sanctioned Derkach personally and designated him a Russian agent - not me... not the Left... The Trump Administration.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/10/russian-agent-hit-with-us-sanctions-related-to-election-interference/
@JD~Jordan you had me blocked. I suggest a continuance.
Jie Biden is not a legitimate president elect
the link you are posting is NOT a video, its an article about the guy. 2nd) not trump, but treasury department sanctioned him
according to the article
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8fnRW2NQSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=tXL_DujiN4E
And Secretary Mnuchin is part of the Trump Cabinet.
Jie Li Biden
who is the legitimate winner of the election?
video above is DECEMBER 27th 2020
@Eden Secretary Mnuchin is part of the Trump Cabinet and, as a result, a part of the Trump Administration.
There are 2 videos.... One from 12/27 and one from 11/18
OH wow... really? Thanks for the heads up. LOL.... whatever. Too fucking funny. Are you just suggesting logos for bumper stickers or do you actually have some sort of argument to support that rather silly conclusion?
yes I'll give you that... I dont know if all was all clear there. I suspect that Trump did not know about this sanction somehow
yes, the 11/18 video is when they interviewed their witnesses that they used in court case that from my understanding concluded last week
12/27 is when they had the conference to put it all together
@Eden, you just advanced to level 9!
I gave you links to both videos... They are exactly the same... The lengths of the videos are identical. There is only one video. There was no conference last week.
And this guy Andriy Derkach clearly states that the "sanctions" were at the request of democratic senators
I'm sure the NY Post would point that out... Oh and there's the whole thing about the Treasury Dept not working for Senate Democrats, but well... if a known Russian Agent says so, it must be true.
LOL... really? And Goti said he was innocent too
what is your point?
This is almost comical
almost
ok I'm sorry, I do feel a bit stupid... the videos kept rerouting me to discord pages.... cause i was trying to figure out if there was an earlier post on youtube. So now I see yes there was. I apologize. I think the information in the videos is not debunked though. But I WOULD like to see the original press conference at any Ukranian site though
if it was televised, it would legitimize it. If these guys made it for youtube..... well...
Also, re treasury department.... yes, not working for democrats. But there is a lot of things that happened in trump admin that he did not know all the things about
If it was real, I am guessing that Fox, OAN, and NewsMax would have been playing it on a loop 24/7 for weeks. The fact that they did not and it was widely enough known that we discussed it here, my guess it is not.
we could talk forever about trumps policy re russia etc
Here is a January update of China releasing information. My key takeaway was it saying that there is no sign of human to human transmission. https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/01/china-releases-genetic-data-new-coronavirus-now-deadly This article talks about the FDA requiring a test to distinguish between COVID-19 and the flu. https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/3/fda-approves-diagnostic-test-distinguish-between-f/
what does that have to do with testing for covid?
Wouldn't that reflect poorly on Trump? He is briefed (or supposed to be) daily about everything happening that is important. Wouldn't this fall into that category? Also, as the Chief Executive, who's responsibility is it to make sure that things contrary to your direction does not happen or is corrected? I keep thinking about the stories of President Truman who famously insisted that the Buck Stopped with him.
just FYI "this" guy is a member of ukraine parliament
so him putting on a fake conference?
Add this for ***some*** context as it comes from the same camera feed. (can not tell how much its been tweaked to accommodate the voiceover commentary) ๐
re trump sanctioning russia... which he did brag about in retrospect because he had no choice, but his arm was twisted into signing sanctions against russia early on in 2017.
Wow... really? You do understand that we have the genetic sequence of CoVid now and we have had it for months... if China believed in Jan 2020 (a year ago) that there were no signs of human to human transmission then ok... my bet is they knew there actually was human to human transmission. They just downplayed it.
BUT.... all of that is irrelevant because WE... the US and the rest of the world have know since Mid January that there was human to human transmission.
So I really do not understand what you are missing or what point you are trying to make....
but that was not his policy going in
Except maybe you don't understand thsi stuff very well
I'll agree with you, she needs to research further.
CHINA DESIGNED THE VIRUS. They know exactly what it was and how it was transmitted. FYI, most chinese people believe that COVID 2.0 is specifically designed to kill more caucasians than asians
Maybe they did maybe they didn't...what's that got to do with testing of the virus? if they released the genome sequence we knew what to look for.
...
When was the Military World Games?
no idea
just FYI
I fail to understand the relevance.
Some rumor it originated from that event.
ok
not everything that happens under Trump is under his control, and he doesnt always get accurate info. I suspect that Guiliani was trying to not give him all the details to keep him out of some things
But that will stay a rumor.
where did you hear this rumor?
Several locations that I can no longer point to as they've been rapidly removed.
so you read it on the internet?
That was pointing the finger more at the U.S. lab creation theory here https://home.army.mil/detrick/index.php
Vs the wuhan lab creation theory.
With my internet investigators degree <:observe:753865535006965962>
if it absolutely had to come from a lab, I suggest the lab on the continent with the first deaths would be the place to look first
Doc you're a heretic...
Where was it recorded first. Because they had jailed dr.s that were talking about it on wechat in china.
you know what a "clinical diagnosis" is?
Roughly. Yes.
Lab vs clinical
well, that counts as "recorded" if it contains what is called "pathognomy"
clinical dx lol
Batwoman comes in peace...
Yes, I mean to include clinical diagnosis in the question where the first death had occured.
I think that the more concerning thing for me is that, per the Woodward tapes, Trump knew in January the exact characteristics of CoVid-19. He had to get his information from somewhere and, at the time, he was praising President Xi for being so transparent, but he could have gotten the information from the WHO, which would have gotten it from the Chinese. In any case, Trump's decision to enact the travel ban makes more sense given that he knew the details about CoVid. It was also his responsibility to let the American people know what he knew about it - not the Chinese. Knowing that his understanding of the virus was so accurate that early also brings into question many of his decisions... Why eschew the wearing of masks? Why not take a more proactive, logical approach to protecting the most vulnerable while allowing others to continue to work? And on and on.
WTF does clinical dz ever can do with COVID19?
I don't speak Russian... So this is not meaningful to me.
Im shocked that judges aren't buying the GOPs argument of we don't care who actually won the election we just want to flip the results even if we can't prove anything.
I am not big on conspiracy theories. I really can't afford to entertain them too often as I am Schizoaffective. But, CoVid is a weird weird virus.
Look at the populations that are hit the hardest - minorities (at least in the US), elderly and those with certain pre existing conditions. But kinda odd ones. For example, we would expect that people with chronic lung issues would have a rough time with CoVid... but Diabetics?
And then we have all these weird things like "CoVid Toes" and other issues with extremities to the point that we are seeing lots of amputations.
Then we find out that once recovered you only have immunity (in many cases) for just a few months. AND... many report that the second round of CoVid is worse than the first - which make zero sense.
Again, its weird. I am not saying it was developed in a lab. There is very very little to no reliable evidence of that.... but it still behaves oddly.
sorry, I speak a couple of languages... that video in retrospect does not have the "juice". But the only point of that video for the purposes is that THIS is a NATIONWIDE WELL KNOWN politician in BOTH Russia and Ukraine... and NO he would not putfake propaganda videos about Biden. Its all true
What did the official narrative land on. Bats were the most mocked. Snakes popped up, pangolins were said to be the closest sequence.
Both accusations of Fort Detrick and Wuhan lab gained hold for a while.
I like kung-flu myself, wish it would have stayed as that.
@SoonMrWick this is due to a specific bias. I can explain, if you want, but maybe in general-chat?
I just like the name kung-flu because if somethings going to kick our ass that sounds awesome. If you'd like to explain you can.
Huh? Diabetes sucks to have with all diseases pretty much. It greatly impacts overall health. The rebuttal to it being developed in a lab is pretty universal.
https://www.diabetes.org/coronavirus-covid-19/how-coronavirus-impacts-people-with-diabetes
"People with diabetes are more likely to have serious complications from COVID-19. In general, people with diabetes are more likely to have more severe symptoms and complications when infected with any virus."
Make America Beautiful Again?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-creating-schedule-f-excepted-service/
I'm with the first comment. I saw that a week ago.
Yea, I saw it the other day too, but didn't post it here. Didn't know if anyone else didn't see it yet... seems legit! I wish we would do this.
Lebron was pretty funny when JR ruined game 1 of the finals back in like 2017
Well crap.... looks like all those people set to get that additional $300 in unemployment compensation won't get it this week because Trump actually let it lapse Saturday
Streaming with Rob in a couple of minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b5ZE72pHi4
Yes. Trump is the problem. Good work. Did you have another conclusion?
Nope. I have known that since 2016. Trump is a tumor on the ass of cancer
Have you had your TDS diagnosed?
You mean, having a logical and rational mind?
I have no idea your politics and don't really care. Because those benefits lapses on Saturday and Trump held the bill over the weekend after his little nonsensical press conference/slash mental masturbation session those people will not get that money for this week
The delay was 100% on Trump
He got the bill last week
Ever heard of a pocket veto?
I have
Most presidents don't do that and neither did Trump
so why are you pointing it out?
The delay is not trumps fault. The delay is the fault of the bill stuffing.
What?
He fucking signed it
@SoonMrWick you'll happily cower in place at once.
@SoonMrWick you'll wear a mask as you cower in place and love it.
O really
He could have vetoed it immediately and then Congress could have tried to override the veto or start over.
He could have signed it immediately and benefits would have continued.
Or he could have done the "Pocket Veto" which is to do nothing for 10 days not including Sundays.
Which did he do?
None.... he waited
until benefit ended
then signed it
period
he did something weird and not period
TDS
@SoonMrWick I dont think you know what a Pocket Veto is, do you?
Just a neat phrase you heard somewhere
Unbridled cowardness has gotten us to where we are today.
Because what Trump did was not a pocket veto
"As President I am demanding many rescissions under the Impoundment Control Act of 1974."
Is it possible for Pence to split the votes in the โcontestedโ states (where he got duel electors) as he reads them? The Dems would have to get the 1 and 1 to contest, and both majorities to overturn, and Trump hits 270 first as theyโre read...
He tried giving it a chance to fix the bill, don't know if it will work.
We've put that in here three times. I can't imagine how he would have missed it. I'm mearly saying there were more options than outright signing it since they would have overruled it with 2/3 vote... and he took one of those avenues. The problem is not trump, the problem is the bill itself. Some people can get over that, some people can't.
No he didnt
He could sign it, veto it or do nothing for 10 days (pocket veto)
He signed it
The bill is now law
But he signed it 2 days too late for people to get their money for this week
They will get it next week
This is not complex
That is all that his delay did, cost unemployed people 300 bucks
I don't think the alternative Elector slates are going to factor in at all... The state legislatures had nothing to do with them. They were a stunt.
Contact your house of representatives rep and have them submit a better bill next time. Stop whining about trump.
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