That is what we generally call executive overreach. The legislative branch writes the laws. The potus is supposed to administer them. The law passed by congress says no political activity. A president directed the it to be read as primarily. Either way these groups were violating the laxer definition but were upset they were not allowed to violate the law. The technicality Trump “apologized” for was not that what they were doing was legal out rather that the IRS has no purview over political spending the FEC does that.

> That is what we generally call executive overreach. The legislative branch writes the laws. The potus is supposed to administer them. The law passed by congress says no political activity. A president directed the it to be read as primarily. Either way these groups were violating the laxer definition but were upset they were not allowed to violate the law. The technicality Trump “apologized” for was not that what they were doing was legal out rather that the IRS has no purview over political spending the FEC does that.
@Dedkraken there is no indication that they tried to violate the law. Other than you believe that to be the case, based on their political views, and the fact that the IRS didn't want to grant their request.

What happened was the IRS arbitrarily decided that they were breaking the law after they got caught acting unfairly. There is no indication that violations of the law were a part of their metric for determining to disproportionally Target groups with the name Tea Party included.

There is no indication that Sean Hannity, Rush, or Trump has ever violated the law. Except of course they happen to be conservative and therefore obviously guilty of something.

What do you mean “based on their political views”? All political views across the spectrum were included if they were breaking the law. The “ picking on right wing” narrative was proven delusional they were just the only ones whining about it publicly because they are entitled and the left leaning and other political groups also knew they were breaking the law. Catching tax cheats is not arbitrary. You worshipping conservatives doesn’t mean they don’t cheat on their taxes. Trump especially got caught red handed on tax fraud which he built his whole company on. He is pretty screwed and should be.

> What do you mean “based on their political views”? All political views across the spectrum were included if they were breaking the law. The “ picking on right wing” narrative was proven delusional they were just the only ones whining about it publicly because they are entitled and the left leaning and other political groups also knew they were breaking the law. Catching tax cheats is not arbitrary. You worshipping conservatives doesn’t mean they don’t cheat on their taxes. Trump especially got caught red handed on tax fraud which he built his whole company on. He is pretty screwed and should be.
@Dedkraken the IRS admitted to disproportionally targeting right wing groups in the settlement.

In this case they arbitrarily, decided that some of the group were not acting appropriately. Again, because they got caught, they needed to come up with an excuse, to do that they unfairly applied the whole social welfare rules.

I certainly wouldn't want any group to be targeted left or right. I'm not aware of any leftists being perpetually audited... Are you? If so that shouldn't be allowed either.

Disproportionately targeting illegal behavior on the right isn’t a thing. They hit all political groups. More right wing groups broke the law. More got caught breaking the law. That’s how it should work. Political groups participating in activities they aren’t allow to should absolutely be held accountable.

Any time the left breathes funny the right says get em cops they broke the law wooo law and order. Any time the right breaks the law when they hold office they look the other way. When the left holds office it’s oh poor me the entitled criminal victim. I say hold both parties accountable when they break the law. I never heard a peep from tea party goers when occupy Wall Street was hit by the IRS. It’s what 6 years later you still pretend it was just the right. Where’s the intellectual honesty. I think it was good the IRS went after all political groups pretending not to be political. The FEC wasn’t going to stop them.

https://parler.com/post/009ba435b68c46d4955e1cd7737fa27c

#JeSuisParler

I don’t know if this is true yet, can’t trust the media. But someone said Italy (Vatican) and Pakistan and India had blackouts today. And it’s headed our way! God is moving!!!

It’s true they had blackouts.

I think that’s the owner of Parler

`There is the possibility Parler will be unavailable on the internet for up to a week as we rebuild from scratch.`

Oof

Who said

Read the link

Wait, Amazon allows Parler to exist on the internet? Wtf

Need to me

News*

Yes, they own server farms.

WOW

Amazon owns too many things...

I remember when conservatives were called conspiracy theorists and crazy for thinking that mainstream media companies weren’t out to get them

Social media*

... You realize that like, a very small group of companies control the internet, it's a supply chain thing.

https://searchaws.techtarget.com/definition/Amazon-Web-Services

Alphabet (Google), Microsoft, Amazon, FB, Twitter own or have their claws on pretty much the entire internet. They are the gatekeepers to most content.

And if something threatens their monopoly they work to ban it. We need to use the Sherman Anti-Trust Act

I’m still using the app

https://nyegop.org/2021/01/08/a-letter-from-the-chairman/?v=7516fd43adaa

Updated info. I wasn’t sure if I believed it until I verified it myself and looked up the actually nye county website. It’s on there actual gop page

Oh no... Q.

I’m not sure what this is to be honest. I figure it may be somewhat legit since it actually comes from the GOP website. Do you own DD everyone. I can’t rule out anything at this point. Good luck

It's Q anon stuff.

Hmm

It makes everything even more unreal!! Makes it hard to believe anything anymore!! I find that letter a big far fetched but the world as we know it is crazy so 🤷‍♀️

Know what you mean oddly there have been blackouts in several countries.

Just curious because I am not familiar with Q very much...how do you know if it’s Q?

@lullaby2night, you just advanced to level 1!

Yep that is what my hubby said

Pretty easy to spin up your own servers. They specifically choose to give control of their app to Amazon. Not bright considering what they want to do. 😂🤷

Could be a coinkydink

Literally links to Q anon stuff.

Ah

Ahhh okay. Thank you

In hindsight does anyone find it odd Trump was selling tickets to his inauguration

For real?

@Shifrah, you just advanced to level 2!

And you have just actually hit on the biggest issue. The actions being taken by Twitter, FB, Google, Apple etc. Are going to drive decent but confused people deeper into the internet. It will create a very large group of people who believe that they are unheard. They will join with other people who feel they are unheard and then it gets worse. They end up even deeper believing that even their paranoia is true in a negative reinforcing loop.

It was some of his post election fundraising 😂🤷

Oh well, I was planning on telling the world to buy a months worth of groceries...well mostly toilet paper and hide in their basement. Lmao 😂

Putting conspiracies in the limelight doesn’t make people feel heard. It lets them consume propaganda all day long.

People didn’t just all at the same time invent qanon. They were told what to think. When that junk was hidden away on the internet the country was better off

I’ve never heard of Qanon before this election!!! Crazy 😜

If you keep someone listening, talking and critically thinking then they won't believe they are unheard. And they will at least feel like they are contributing to a larger conversation. On top of it there are opposing views up here. Down in the depths of the internet are some really dark ideas.

Man this is deep stuff. I just want to make sure I’m loaded up on toilet paper.

Some of these topics are likely similar to what led Washington to issue his very clear warning when he left office.

"However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion." George Washington in his Farewell Address on Saturday, September 17, 1796.

Qanon has been hidden in the depths of the internet for years... It came up for air at the end of the Obama administration.

Ty! The deep state shit is kinda crazy but it makes you stop and think!!!

Mostly because of the way that democrats have attacked conservatives and called them racists, bigots and everything under the sun.

It goes along with the idea if one person calls you a <insert descriptor here> you ignore them. A second person calls you a <insert descriptor here> you start thinking about it, when a 3rd person calls you a <insert descriptor here> then you start acting like it.

It's not that you are necessarily a <insert descriptor here> it's that you are beginning to believe it

Essentially, if you get called something enough times even if you believe it is false then eventually you will believe it anyway. It goes along with the Stockholm Syndrome.

Hey guys

https://youtu.be/yfFd3-RWK5U

Private company, logical conclusion = A cartel of ISPs can decide your company must pay each of your employees $100,000 or else your internet will be shut off and you cannot conduct business.

@AdvanceManExtraordinaire, you just advanced to level 14!

https://nyegop.org/2021/01/08/a-letter-from-the-chairman/?v=7516fd43adaa

Would give anything for him to not be schizophrenic

So I won’t be able to use Parler tomorrow

Wtff

It’s really nice

People just now waking up to the rise of fascism in America

The sheep lefties called us conspiracy theorists

For suggesting that they are going after conservatives

Now they look stupid af

This is why net neutrality needs to be restored.

anyone verifying the italy us election scandel?

The right confused about pledge boners

🤷

Conservatives don’t think the attack on our nations capital is the issue but rather that Parler isn’t guaranteed access to app stores ffs 🤦‍♂️ this country 😂

Russia will accept you and they demand you worship their flag. Maybe Putin can get it up and do friendly constitutional things for you. Oh yeah freedom and RIGHTS don't exist their. Bernie Sanders homeland

Biden - I condemn violence

Biden - I condemn violence

Trumpism is not American

I’m not leaving cupcake 🧁

Cute. WTF did the tuesday riot have to do with White Supremacy? Pure gas lighting.

https://www.ptnewsnetwork.com/commentary-welcome-to-the-new-dystopian-america/

An article I wrote...

Since I didn’t say the words white supremacy you must be gaslighting yourself

It says white nationalist in the picture you posted @Dedkraken

White nationalism and supramacism aren't the same things but both were obviously in attendance in the latest Unite the Right event. Im sure the bulk were nationalists like Trump. America First 🤦‍♂️

@Dedkraken they might as well be. Both are shit. And that does not make it right or truthful to claim that the protests or political violence of tuesday had anything to do with race

https://twitter.com/No_Nazis_Please/status/1348037973938475010?s=20

@MatiLuc, you just advanced to level 22!

they were white nationalists. Their politics make it about race not me 😄

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-thats-like-your-opinion-man-gif-15076479

Looks more like a fact. If a sitting POTUS calling for his VPs life for not handing him an election illegally isn't enough to turn folks against white nationalists things will get messy.

Couldn't even be bothered to call in the national guard to defend the country. Trump is a reject 🤦‍♂️

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ks1n64/armed_terrorists_have_stormed_the_property_of_the/

That i didnt know they broke into other places to

Yeah they got pretty violent in portland too it was in other places but the other states were not well televised

https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/olympia/jay-inslee-residence-breach-trump-supporters/281-39d774d7-0c4f-41fb-893a-255d9c25a635

Well organized tactics

What was it Giuliani said about the same tactics across all different states at the same time?

I read the oath keeper mob. Was organizing somehow

https://fb.watch/2WVs-aBysm/

Is this true!!

if anyone here is a republican who knows that trump was going to address the nation last night.

I am hearning from UN comfirmed trump signed insurrection act

Is this true? https://www.facebook.com/InsiderNews/videos/391874001876548/

if its about trump signing insurrection act

then YES

its not

I dont know if Trump can sign things since the pseudo 25th happened hes not the leader anymore

I think the act was signed a long time ago. Do you mean 'invoke'?

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/charlie-kirk-delete-tweet-buses-capitol/

Deleting evidence

No, no. They're persecuted.

Imagine if Soros tweeted that

He’d get a free pass because he handing out the mulah

No ban for these

Yeah it's all a one way street. Stay oppressed, bro.

Pretty much, if you have an attention span longer than a goldfish

Don't get me wrong, I'm all in for government regulation of businesses. Welcome aboard. Let's do this thing.

Nothing like taking comments out of context and putting them on provocative backdrops - the "go to" move of extremists on both sides. I personally don't find this kind of tactic convinces me of anything other than how easily manipulated people who want to believe the extremist narratives are... Two of the individuals on this meme are my direct representatives. There are plenty that I disagree with them on, but these do not represent what they said nor the circumstances of their saying them.

Charlie Kirk isn’t a billionaire funding movements to undermine our republic.

Is there any context in which any of those quotes the media would find acceptable for trump to say?

Yeah he’s just a millionaire that funded groups which did break democracy?

Ooph scary obvious place this was all leading. If you let Trump for months claim election fraud with no evidence his followers will just now claim any politician they don’t like was elected from fraud. Mitt Romney rigged his election? Wtf 😂

Oh Lindsay Graham said something I don’t like? You cheated to get elected

For everyone that was saying what’s the harm just let him lie for some months and fail 😂

Pelosi was expressing outrage over the policy of separating kids from their parents that the Trump administration had determined was a good way to discourage people from coming to the US to seek asylum.

Harris was encouraging protests not riots or violence - if she had been, that would be the quote posted.

So... yes... there are many inflammatory statements that Trump has made that were excused as being hyperbolic or demonstrative in making a point. He's been making them for the entire time. He has been given more latitude to make these types of remarks than probably any person in American history.

Two of these quotes never even happened when riots were happening, but apparently it's our memory that's bad.

But y'know, context hard.

Maxine Waters wasn't talking about riots, this happened years ago (2018) in general protest to the Trump administration.

2 of those quotes had actual ties to the BLM movement, and that's Kamala and Aynna Pressley.

Also apparently unrest = riots now.

Beijing Biden was certified and is going to be inaugurated, no? His improprieties will be swept under the rug and it will be business as usual, no?

Yes and yes. And you can say whatever you like about him the entire time. Hypocrisy doesn't make you forfeit that ability.

Charlie kirk is zionist shill

Amazon just banned parler from its servers parler will be down in just hours

Not just Amazon, everyone.

Whats the basis for taking down parlor?

https://deadline.com/2021/01/parler-ceo-says-service-dropped-by-every-vendor-and-could-end-the-company-1234670607/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

@SmCkay whats the basis for taking down parlor?

@DangerousFreedom whats the basis for taking down parlor?

Apparently, they don’t have robust terms of service / inciting violence etc

They don’t censor users for legal speech.

Nothing of tangible substance. The oligarchs aren’t confident in Parler’s moderation of content.

They do take posts down if they are inciting violence though as far as I’m aware...

Which is why their reason is not one of tangible substance.

The point is to establish a precedent and establish themselves as the new government of the US. They can effectively write legislation and enforce it via the power of their infrastructure.

I wish it was even a little hyperbolic but it’s not.

This is true sedition.

I still have a fb account. On there the message is parlor allowed terrorist communications that cause the capitol riots. So that's what we're working with here.

The sedition term being thrown around is dangerous

There’s literally nothing stopping the cartel of big tech from telling your local shoe store to pay their employees $100 per hour or else get their internet shut off so they can be absorbed by Amazon.

That’s right, any form of resistance from conservatives is now a terrorist act.

Except the rioters used all platforms, specifically Facebook groups. That said, they never purged BLM/Antifa accounts nor their prominent supporters despite the widespread violence they’ve perpetrated for months.

Trump could’ve easily done the same to antifa and BLM, but instead Biden in concert with big tech will be doing it to anyone not on board with their one party system.

I mean are people stupid enough to not see the contradictions?

@angelula, you just advanced to level 1!

That's false, they had started doing this last year later in the year.

Some of my leftist friends are. They think it’s wrong but literally they don’t care.

It's also something they'd be legally liable for if they didn't take it off their site.

What are you referring to? Antifa/BLM accounts that organized and/or spread the info of organized protests/riots?

Think if you worked at google and you DIDN’T shut off services to small businesses owned by conservatives so they can be absorbed by large leftist corporations. What are you even useful for?

Ones inciting violence were eventually taken down yes, it's still something in the process because Twitter is literally legally liable to remove the content from their platform.

Criminally liable at that.

So how do conservatives gain a voice without being constantly censored?

Facebook does not follow their own rules, or common sense, like you think.

“Inciting violence” is obviously subjective. It can range from literal demands for violence to mere calls to action for protest. And it’s the latter kind that’s being abused right now.

Then report them to the police if they don't take down the messages, simple.

Or the FBI.

You are correct many of the libs i know dont care that we are censored

That would be the correct thing to do yes. But I remember twice reporting a child pornographer casting children for a movie on Facebook, and twice they refused to take the post down. So Facebook in no way is a benign organization of rules.

Then take it to law enforcement, this is how you escalate. Also you could be wrong, who knows?

Blockchain solution. Charles Hoskinson is dedicated to providing a solution on his platform cardano.

I mean, I've said I cared and disagree many times, as have other people here.

> So how do conservatives gain a voice without being constantly censored?
@angelula There is plenty of voice. I cite this very discussion as an example.

So we can have conversations, so long as none of us emerge as a leader with any sort of a following.

Is that a solution? As we’ve seen with Parler, every type of vendor/service can be pressured by the oligarchs to drop a company.

> So we can have conversations, so long as none of us emerge as a leader with any sort of a following.
@AdvanceManExtraordinaire Nope. As long as it's not radical violence.

It seems to be yes. Trying to shutdown a blockchain is a pretty monumental task and so far I don’t believe any country has been able to do so.

They should just invoke religious reasons. Checkmate.

Not true. You don’t have to actually instigate the violence. For conservatives, we have strict liability with regards to protests.

Big tech censors conservatives voices who never advocated violence.

This to me is purely a counter cultural clash. There are millions who believe our society is evil. To me we need a cultural solution to that. In my mind it means taking back the cultural institutions from liberals. This is something we can no longer ignore.

I'm hearing the insurrection act has been signed can anybody verify?

Been hearing that daily for 9 weeks. Not betting on it.

@Zuluzeit what did the Vatican do?

"Take back the cultural institutions from the libs." This will help, surely.

If only the president had a way to communicate with his country.

@Zuluzeit allegedly

Well if he uses the emergency broadcast system and annoys literally everyone in the country, I imagine he'll alienate himself into a corner further.

But he can still do press conferences.

That’s not what I was referring to exactly. They would have to own or control all aspects of their service/business. i.e. email, cell phone, legal representation, payroll service, etc.

I think the federal workforce is one of the biggest cultural pillars that needs reform.

... why?

> @Zuluzeit allegedly
@busillis Not exactly sure. I tuned out when it was clear that it was a recycled amalgamation of a bunch of the more silly ones.

I think the last person that did that went down as the most racist, most damaging president in US history. Might want to be careful with that.

Because the people who have jobs in the important parts of government generally can't be fired and generally they are very liberal.

They know how to speed up or slow down the buerocracy

Oh, so fire the libs.

got it.

No not saying that

All of these services will soon be available on a blockchain solution like cardano. Likely a few years away but that is something to look forward to thankfully.

The pillars of government need to be apolitical

Right...

@Zuluzeit so it's the CIA MI6 the Vatican extraterrestrials ? And who else?

@Zuluzeit so much for keeping it simple.

> @Zuluzeit so it's the CIA MI6 the Vatican extraterrestrials ? And who else?
@busillis Pancho Villa and Delta Force. Probably more. My tiny mind can't grasp how deep this goes.

I'm just saying its very difficult to get a clear under performer in government out the door. Some times that underperformance is on purpose

OMFG

If Pancho Villa's involved clearly this is been in the works for quite some time.

He has 2 belts of usb drives and I see no poll observers. Case closed.

There is - or at least was - a very large segment of Federal Employees who are apolitical. Its important that we have these people in high enough roles to ensure the necessary jobs get done and get done correctly. Some examples of this are fairly high level career employees at the Justice Department, NSA, GSA ad others. Unfortunately, Trump has decided to attack those people as well, labeling them the "deep state" if they ever dare to be loyal to the country as opposed to him.

Welcome back.

He must have access to photoshop or a time travel capability? How did he get USB drives back in the day... Aliens.

I didn't think it through that far...but definitely alien time travel.

@Zuluzeit it's definitely something all right.

@Zuluzeit if people are still locked down in their homes I wonder if that has something to do with it...

This is becoming extremely nuts.

Sorry scratch that.

This has been extremely nuts for some time.

It's all connected. The more elaborate the system of components is revealed to be, the more likely to be true cuz reezuns.

@Zuluzeit yes..

I'm linking the fact that there's no restaurants open until tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. to something to do with God...

I can provide you with amplified promises and more enemies to blame when those promises fail than you could shake a stick at.

And Small Town Texas.

Hmmmm. Don't say any more until you're safe.

But it just sounds nuts. What are you going to do about that?

I guess I have to go to McDonald's or sonic or something God.... damn...

They have a taco Bell too.

Sonic. Deus vult, apparently.

I was going to go see what they have going on at the cinnabon at the truck stop.

Lol eww

@Zuluzeit you think they would have f****** expresso at that cinnabon but not according to their website.

@Zuluzeit apparently they don't need espresso in Texas with all the Mexican meth... Who doesn't drink coffee...

@Zuluzeit maybe I can get some of the Q people on it trying to figure out what's what's up...

I am a decent enough fiction writer maybe I can go work for Q as a "investigative reporter" just have to pull up some old sci fi and horror movies

> I am a decent enough fiction writer maybe I can go work for Q as a "investigative reporter" just have to pull up some old sci fi and horror movies
@JD~Jordan Precisely my point in the other chat.

> @Zuluzeit maybe I can get some of the Q people on it trying to figure out what's what's up...
@busillis Maybe search 'Qspresso'?

Serious question! New to discord. How do I turn off all the cherps. It's not very obvious.

I think it's notification of new posts. Driving me batty

If you click the discord channel name, you can set notification options for the entire server.

Yeah you can right click on the round thumbnail to the left and click mute to mute the whole server. You won't hear those sounds. Or you can just mute individual channells like <#776631125308997654> by right clicking on the name of the channel to the left and choose to mute it there

OK. think i got it. Thank you

Cheers!

@Maw, you just advanced to level 44!