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2020-12-03 16:25:33 UTC

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2020-12-03 16:25:46 UTC

Soon, apparently. He has to finish something beforehand.

2020-12-03 16:39:16 UTC

Dunno what happened but Gaige just fell down?

2020-12-03 16:39:22 UTC

That was strange.

2020-12-03 16:45:36 UTC

Govt. fashionably late as always.

2020-12-03 17:24:19 UTC

funny judge! I like him. ๐Ÿ™‚

2020-12-03 17:29:13 UTC

I'd like to hear what Guilianis argument is that out of Detroit's 250,000 votes that there were upwards of 700,000 illegal votes. Sadly the GOP committee didnt want a followup question ๐Ÿ˜‚

2020-12-03 17:31:46 UTC

Even if he was misspeaking about the county that seems farcical

2020-12-03 17:32:00 UTC

"not relevant individuals" ๐Ÿ˜„

2020-12-03 17:42:48 UTC

@Maw who is the dude on iPhone?

2020-12-03 17:49:20 UTC

No way this guy gets convicted... especially if that Detective is the State's most effective witness.

2020-12-03 17:50:19 UTC

@Doc Anthony Huber's father.

2020-12-03 18:07:07 UTC

@Maw Thanks!

2020-12-03 18:08:42 UTC

I suspect the detective got some instructions. He was surprisingly reluctant to confirm contact between skateboard and head.

2020-12-03 18:09:12 UTC

I dont know the american system, but that is a significant event in this one.

2020-12-03 18:09:49 UTC

That detective went out of his way to help the defense.

2020-12-03 18:10:11 UTC

Naw, his original statement was hugely in favor of the state.

2020-12-03 18:10:19 UTC

He left out key details.

2020-12-03 18:11:42 UTC

His original statement said "Anthony Huber approached Rittenhouse before being struck in the chest by a discharge of the defense's firearm" or something along those lines.

2020-12-03 18:11:49 UTC

This is a prelim.....

2020-12-03 18:11:53 UTC

Who laughed when they show the dead body.. with a cover mask

2020-12-03 18:12:15 UTC

... what?

2020-12-03 18:12:33 UTC

I gotta go back a review

2020-12-03 18:14:13 UTC

1) I don't think anyone laughed, and laughing at that is highly inappropriate in my opinion. You're talking about someone's life ending. 2) I don't know if you're talking about Mr. Huber (Skateboard dude) or Mr. Rosenbaum (Dude first shot), Mr. Rosenbaum was not deceased until an hour or two after the shooting while in the hospital.

2020-12-03 18:14:20 UTC

Mr. Huber died on scene.

2020-12-03 18:15:24 UTC

Min 57:50 .. he asked is a crime in Wisconsin to commit a crime while masked.. correct?? Then someone laughed

2020-12-03 18:16:12 UTC

I belive that was mr. iPhone who laughed

2020-12-03 18:16:27 UTC

Mr. Huber's father laughed because he likely thought it abhorrent that someone would make the claim that Mr. Rosenbaum was a burglar.

2020-12-03 18:16:34 UTC

in a manner to show "shock" and "distaste"

2020-12-03 18:16:49 UTC

Yes i think was him .. judge said .. please refer from making noise please

2020-12-03 18:16:55 UTC

Also, he was not dead.

2020-12-03 18:17:06 UTC

He died a few hours later.

2020-12-03 18:17:25 UTC

but already showing signs of a class III hemorrhage.

2020-12-03 18:17:33 UTC

Shot in the head. ????

2020-12-03 18:17:36 UTC

So....dying.

2020-12-03 18:17:38 UTC

Not dead

2020-12-03 18:17:39 UTC
2020-12-03 18:17:41 UTC

Graced in the head.

2020-12-03 18:17:52 UTC

He wasnt talking for sure

2020-12-03 18:17:54 UTC

He was shot in the liver/inner groin.

2020-12-03 18:17:55 UTC

The shot that killed him was through the pelivis and a kidney.

2020-12-03 18:18:08 UTC

oh...liver, perhaps.

2020-12-03 18:18:09 UTC

He was shot, and he likely had extensive lung damage.

2020-12-03 18:18:48 UTC

I believe the died from the hemorrhage, judging from his clinical presentation while filmed lying on his back trying to get up.

2020-12-03 18:19:04 UTC

The autopsy results were available in the criminal complaint.

2020-12-03 18:19:11 UTC

oh, cool!

2020-12-03 18:19:17 UTC

can you link them to me?

2020-12-03 18:19:31 UTC

I just saw the referate. Never the actual report.

2020-12-03 18:19:33 UTC

It didn't say what the C.O.D was, or which impact I don't recall. I can get you the relevant text @Doc

2020-12-03 18:19:55 UTC

If you have the report, I would very much like that.

2020-12-03 18:20:24 UTC

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2020-12-03 18:22:25 UTC

(Also people do live for extended periods after being shot in the head frequently, @MatiLuc ) Don't believe what you hear on TV all the time.

2020-12-03 18:22:55 UTC

Though it depends on your definition of live, I suppose.

2020-12-03 18:24:19 UTC

@MatiLuc Combat medicine rule of the thumb: shot through one hemisphere = red, shot through both = blue/black/red-green

2020-12-03 18:24:48 UTC

@Maw Id say that is a death from bloodloss.

2020-12-03 18:25:25 UTC

large arteries in lung, liver, pelvis, and the .223 is known to both tumble and flower (not same as expand) in terminal ballistics.

2020-12-03 18:25:40 UTC

Not much blood was seen, but I honestly can't say, as your chest is a space which can fill with blood before you even know you're bleeding badly.

2020-12-03 18:26:05 UTC

the only situation where you bleed outwards, is if the artery cant bleed in.

2020-12-03 18:26:23 UTC

Kyle was using specialty SD ammunition, it was rapid-fragmentation. Likely special JSP or special JHP.

2020-12-03 18:26:36 UTC

I once had a man delivered to my care with BP 50/0.

2020-12-03 18:26:49 UTC

His entire volum of blood was in his abdomen under pressure.

2020-12-03 18:27:26 UTC

So I don't expect tumbling was an issue.

2020-12-03 18:27:34 UTC

Rather the rapid expansion was.

2020-12-03 18:27:53 UTC

well, untill the .223 projectile hits bone, it tumbles.

2020-12-03 18:28:07 UTC

Again, JSP/JHP ammo.

2020-12-03 18:28:12 UTC

I know.

2020-12-03 18:28:50 UTC

They begin expanding and fragmenting around an inch into ballistics gel alone.

2020-12-03 18:29:03 UTC

which is not what your lungs are made of.

2020-12-03 18:29:38 UTC

But you might be right. I havent seen civilian .223 cases.

2020-12-03 18:29:49 UTC

I think this is a conversation best for private, as it's rather morbid.

2020-12-03 18:30:23 UTC

If so, i apologize. It is forensic medicine/EM to me. A profession.

2020-12-03 18:30:56 UTC

It's quite alright! I just don't think people would want to stumble into these sorts of conversations, I imagine many people get physically ill thinking about this stuff in detail.

2020-12-03 18:31:48 UTC

Thanks! I have no idea where that line goes.

2020-12-03 18:34:52 UTC

Kyle missed d head.. probably was making sure he die

2020-12-03 18:35:54 UTC

Normally, in that situation, you are not aware of when you hit or not. There is no text above the targets head.

2020-12-03 18:36:41 UTC

(but, Maybe we should observe Maws guidance, here, sir.)

2020-12-03 18:39:22 UTC

There was alot of blood.. by his stomach and by back of his head the exhibit pictures they painted over d blood.

2020-12-03 18:53:52 UTC

What? No they didn't.

2020-12-03 18:54:46 UTC

Also doc is correct, have you shot a gun before? It's not easy to tell where you're hitting.

2020-12-03 18:58:15 UTC

There is a lot of visual noise at the barrel when you fire.

2020-12-03 18:59:07 UTC

Expanding gases, sometimes muzzle flashes.

2020-12-03 19:00:59 UTC

Also you're like, right next to the person and likely aren't aiming down the sight fully.

2020-12-03 19:02:22 UTC

This assumption that Kyle was clear-headed, methodical and basically the terminator is wonky.

2020-12-03 19:03:00 UTC

I can't fathom the level of bias it comes to reach that sort of conclusion.

2020-12-03 21:28:33 UTC

@Maw Inexperience with fear of life situations.

2020-12-03 21:30:08 UTC

The difference between how people think they will preform in high risk situations and how they end up preforming is usually massive and very often the topic of Debrief and PTSD-therapy.

2020-12-03 21:31:25 UTC

The male brain goes from "I got this!" to "Lord, get me out of this!" in less than a second.

2020-12-03 21:33:01 UTC

Especially in close proximity.

2020-12-03 21:41:15 UTC

Absolutely! You can have years and years of training. And be caught off guard, and make a mistake or an adjustment you didn't have time to account for.
And adrenaline is another key issue many non experienced shooters don't take into consideration

2020-12-03 21:46:01 UTC

In the video, YOU SEE THEY DIDN'T STOP COUNTING

2020-12-03 21:46:15 UTC

yep

2020-12-03 21:46:20 UTC

i put them up in new submissions channel

2020-12-03 21:47:16 UTC

But no guys, they were just uploading! Can you tell the difference between counting and uploading!

2020-12-03 21:47:36 UTC

just counting mysterious suitcase ballots!

2020-12-03 21:47:38 UTC

nothing to see here

2020-12-03 21:48:32 UTC

No, your evidence measuring updated counts multiple times isn't evidence of counting

2020-12-03 21:53:12 UTC

We told them this without video evidence.

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2020-12-03 21:58:51 UTC

omg look at those huge dumps of ballots ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ’ฉ ๐Ÿ’ฉ

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