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why is my moderator status removed, without any explanation?
@igorbloodscene you pinned a video, I told you to not do that, you said too bad.
@Happy Humble Hermit Is equality of opportunity bullshit? TFM says women shouldn't go to college, but he is a libertarian that supports equality of the law? So would explicit legal restrictions on women be in violation?
@fury3250 if you want to keep equality of opportunity, you have to decentivise women from going to college and only the most determined will get through. Talk to any girl who has dropped out of college and the common theme is that they were paying for it themselves. A part of the reason that college is dominated by women is because they get so much financial support that allows them to go with little to no risk or investment. Removing the money from the college industry is never going to happen, so they will naturally filter themselves out when the college debt bubble bursts.
@Happy Humble Hermit Okay, so women will eventually leave college when the loan gets too much, which is happening. But what if TFM is right? If women are objectively inferior to men, we should just make laws to limit them because they are inferior. After all, you don't treat unequal things equally, right? So if women tried to enter college, get a career, or vote, we just say that they can't because they are inferior to the average man, and are objectively worse creatures. Break women's psych so much that they bow down and kiss a man's ass for the rest of their life, and you can treat them however you want. (With caveats of course.) Hell, maybe we could make laws saying women can't protest or complain about their rights, due to their inferiority.
@fury3250 only one culture is capable of doing that and its coming for all of us
Naw we could do it.
@Happy Humble Hermit , do you actually go fishing tho??
@ZODD haven't been in a while
I'll have to film it when it gets cooler out
I feel like fishing is more fun with a small group of people
Hey @Happy Humble Hermit , what would be a more interesting outcome; if thanos got rid of Half the Men of the whole population, or Got rid of Half the Women (young&old) of the population of the human race?
@ZODD women operate identically across cultures, whereas changing the population of men can have drastic consequences. Removing cucks or removing masculine men can reshape a society whereas removing women won't have much impact at all. Interesting would be men, safer would be women.
@Happy Humble Hermit when you going to appear in tfm show?
@Kazemaru tfm emailed me yesterday I'll be on this coming Saturday
Alright! I will not lose!
Is anime for blue-pill cucks who glorify women?
anime is the pinnacle of entertainment
Anime that is created by a men is a fantasy of romance in a guys mind in real life
Also it depends on the genres. Some amines are so fucking dark you get the same nightmares in a whole week
Wouldn't that logic be the same for porn?
well It's fantasy
It's not ***real***
anime can also have some red pill truths too it really just depends what you're watching
boku no pico (Best Anime)
up the shut fuck zodd
That's generally most media. Porn, Anime, Hentai, Western Movies and Television (current era). I doubt Anime has more blue-pillness than others but there are different genres that can be more blue pill than others (Ex: Cuckoid in porn vs Netorare in Anime/Hentai).
How can I sand memes to Dank-memes
You need to get the role @the adventures male
Whar role man
What is the "Official" MGTOW logo, if there even is one?
There lies the rub, there is no "official" anything in MGTOW. It's free form fuckery at it's finest....
The best kind of fuckery there is.
I use the mgtow splitting lane sign logo in my videos
Maybe if you asked what the most widely used logo is you'd get an answer you like better.
@Happy Humble Hermit If you worked a job that was $65-$70k, saved at least 55% of your income every year to invest it, you had no debt, owned your car, and lived 3 mins from work - would you spend $1,250/mo on a luxury apartment (the average rent in this area is $800-900/mo) or a nice car?
The past few years I've saved a lot of income (I aim for 60-75% of my income) and invested it. Thing is, I've always lived with other people (including female roommates) and ever since discovering the red pill and mgtow I want to just live alone. I wanted to pay a little extra for 1 year just to see how it would feel to splurge a little on myself. I know this absolutely a luxury and a pretty dumb one at that (100% depreciation from renting, especially a luxury apartment) but I still *want* it, at least for a year. I currently rent a $400/mo bedroom in a shared house with a few other young professionals and try to follow Musashi's "Be indifferent to where you live" rule but the idea of living high on the hog and ALONE seems so nice right now. What's your take?
@machtyn im not hhh but i would get the apartment for sure. thats where your living and spending your time. a vehicle is always just a utility. and getting a reliable car is going to serve you much better than a luxury car. because you gotta consider gas costs, repair costs, etc. the hidden costs of a car can be much more than you bargin for. but for a nice place to live that provides you peace of mind and a space to decompress after a long day at work? i would say thats much more worth it than a nice car.
@shadowlessnexus I agree on the car. I bought a 5 year old car with 30k miles and it will last me until 2030 or longer with the way I drive it. I appreciate your perspective on housing. I do spend 40-50 hours in my current living situation but 10 of that is eaten up by female roommates wanting to gossip, help them or other nonsense. The luxury (1300/mo) apartment may not be what I go with but I will definitely move out and pay more than $400/mo for peace and quiet! I don't know why I want a NICE PLACE compared to just a place. I did work hard to get where I am now. Thanks!
anytime fam
Hi guys I am new to the group .Is there an option for voice call as mgtow men we should communicate directly
There is a voice chat here buts it's not very active. If you want to talk to other mgtow men I'd recommend trying tfms server. His voice chat is very active. There is often a group there.
Do any of you guys think that the collapse will involve a great war and the bloodshed of many men?
That's my fear
Depends, You have to look at genetics and if the environment where you live will be violent or not.
When does HHH and TFM hold their streams
be ready for war but hope for peace
@DreadPirateCro I'll be on the tfm show on saturday and I don't schedule my streams I just do them when I have some free time but I'm working on reshaping my schedule to create a schedule for streams
Do you guys think that if Mgtow ideology were gain more power we can be able to take over some colleges?
@blackknight14 I doubt it, mgtow men (at least in my case) would rather go to a trade school
Looking at the possibilties that can happen, you have a point.
Question..
@Little_Bob_69 War is needed to keep the population in check and it's profitable.
Does the Doll House Sell Used Dolls or Refurbished Dolls? ( Lmao)
@ZODD they actually might... why anyone would buy that is beyond me.
if they couldn't afford the good Stuff i guess. HAHAHAHA
If youre familiar with findom... There might even be a market for only used dolls... I dont understand people
@Happy Humble Hermit if you think about it it is like marrying a college graduated frat girl
Except it's a sex bot
@Happy Humble Hermit What would you recommend, pursuing tech or a trade?
Trade. LOL!
@Oniichan Of The West depends on which country you live. Check the demand. Here it's definitely tech. If you live in a small economy where prices are lower than your surrounding countries, I would definitely advise programming, so you can freelance through upwork and get an American or Brittish salary, so you'll be living above most people
Hi everyone. I'm new to mgtow,well I learned about it 3 months ago and now I just feel like I'm losing my mind. It feels like every choice I've made now is a mistake. Like going to college. Is it normal the have these feelings or is this all just me?
red pill rage / Mgtow Rage is Normal. Just keep learning , and improve ur state of mind
Hey H³ and community. My question is how to stop grieving for revenge after your bluepill-stage. I realize that i've been used in the second half of my almost two year relationship. Beginning in November, she will study with me again in an integrated degree program. Obviously i will not give her advantage throughout this anymore, before i did way too much for her.
Despite that i still feel the need of revenge. Not in the physical way but to prove her wrong about her respectless manipulative behavior towards me. I am in the stage where loneliness tranfers to soltitude and i volountarily went monk mode after the breakup. To forget what she has done to me, should i fuck some other females with low maintenance to just forget anything emotional attached to her in my brain or keep to the my morals of not giving in to any women anymore. I turned down sexual advances on one girl since my breakup that is over 4 months in the past.
And to advance this question, how do i treat her, when i have to work with her
Mysteriedingens - There is one more brutal "pill" to consume that will abate your desire for revenge, though it may beset you further. "Not in the physical way but to prove her wrong about her respectless manipulative behavior towards me." Unfortunately, anytime you encounter a lack of respect and manipulation, you are almost assuredly confronting sociopathy. She may feel not be Ted Bundy in the full capacity, perhaps capable of feeling something for a kid, her family, a pet (doubtful), but you were clearly nothing but a slavebody to her. Dreaming for revenge in the form of her realizing her wrongdoing is absolutely impossible. There simply is no conscience to speak of, and if that makes a human then realizing that will help you ignore her for the philosophical zombie she is. If you can easily fuck another female, yes it is recommended because it will depedestalize the previous pussy, though take great care not to glorify the next other than a nut. The hardest part of your ordeal is the fact that you will need to continue study near her. Letting go of your need for justice is a good way through it. Once you realize she is no more worthy or considerate than your average junky on the street, and that her value you to was only ever really culminated in the nut and her other "contributions" merely burdens -- yes even the tender moments -- you will be free.
How much longer do you thiink this curent world continue to live on life support given the current climate?
The best revenge is becoming successful
Either you create or you contract. Best to create and not waste time contracting within yourself.
thank your for your contributions. my own answer to myself at the moment, going my own way but i still have strong sexual urges as a young man and it is hard to go celibate. I am not watching porn for various reasons and i am not into one night stands if the girl can contact me after that. I liked the principle H³ told once. Three stages. One of monk mode, one of spinning plates, and one of short term relationships in the honeymoon-phase. I consider going that way too but worry if i set myself up for more problems connected with the grieve i still feel for my last girlfriend.
the spining plates seems like the most viable solution for someone like you
@everyone Independently from thottery, how many partners do you consider okay for a girl for you if you decide to enter a (short/long) relationship with them. Does it matter to you, do you have an principles? Im interested!
I would say less than 5. Depended on if she slept with them and for how long as well. If she is just giving it out left and right then no. But if it something like I dated for a while before engaging in sex than that is acceptable.
< 5 is virtually impossible to find in an adult female these days
Truth
@Yowilkat you could find one. you could also win the lottery
10x
Just a random thought. Does anyone here have a blood-cortisol test before after doing meditation and Yoga? I am really interested in that and i've seen myself getting more calmed down but i unfortunately didn't take bloodwork
@Happy Humble Hermit Has the Illuminati contacted you yet?
@Happy Humble Hermit Why do we drive on a parkway, yet park in a driveway?
@Happy Humble Hermit Why is a Raven like a writing desk? 🙃
@Happy Humble Hermit Why is it that fat chance and slim chance BOTH mean the same thing?
@Happy Humble Hermit Why is his dick white?
Would you marry a daughter of a mgtow?
I will never marry, I am too fucking old to be getting married now.
@Dick White it's never too late to get cucked and burnt into the ground, not so pessimistic
How do you guys deal with women in the workplace when there's no way to avoid them?
My ex is at my workplace.
<:kms:480186112900333568>
ouch
Honestly i feel pity for her, because i am the dawg at work and she has no friends so thats something going for me at least.
STOP FEELING BAD, YOU UNNECESSARILY GUILT RIDDEN GERMAN!
Typical.
As a man at work you have to be indispensable in some way, meaning being the best at your job so that they can't replace you
so, you're in a good spot it seems like
There will be a lot guilt tripping in the awaiting 3 months i got to work with her, i can smell it. But i am in the top 5 of 30 so they have to rely on me. The worst thing is having a female bitch boss
omfg
so many women in leadership positions and I don't know how to interact with them properly
It's a social game I don't want to play, but I have to play to to some extent if I want to keep working
I've boycotted women in the West.
@Sigma Women bosses are happy if you are self reliant, cause they cant deal with leadership
they have to rely on schedules and working plans
I hate playing social games, you can't be yourself...You have to throw away your individuality and personality in order to conform to an institution you are forced to be a part of if you don't want to die on the streets
On the other end, if its not like they want, they turn into monsters
If you Are Going to have a DISCUSSION do it GENERAL OR IN VC @Mysteriedingens / @Sigma
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What do you mean? stay out of the drama and gossip?
You go to wrok to make money, that is it. Do your job, do it well and let that be it. When you are off work thenngo hang with the boys and shoot the shit
Big question. Do trannys hit the wall too? Some of us do see them being NAWALTs in a way, but do they also hit the wall, maybe sooner or later then women? Beyond them having a male brain and that some sacrificial love that we have for women and children, do they have adequate benefits, outside of reproduction?
Personal observations had shown me, Female to male trannys hit the male version of a wall
If they take estrogen, maybe they'll age faster...that would be my guess. Plus, long hair, fake tits, square jaw, big adam's apple won't look good after a while
@Sigma that factors depend on when your transition started
I don't know what effects estrogen has on the male physiology, I'm sure it screws some stuff up and it must be a miserable transition.
I haven't looked into it, I can only guess
I guess every transition is different.
This is an interefting topic, probably would have to find older trans women and do a study in a few year, since its relitivly new and all
Older trans kind of disappear, aye.
The fact that there seems to be a growing number on transitions between genders is somewhat new, so I guess time will tell and we'll see what happens in the future
I don't understand the female to male ones, though.
Take low T symptoms and add it to the symptoms of menopausal women taking estrogen
Should we take this to general chat?
Probably..
You know how social fads come and go? Do you guys think that the state in which society is in is just a phase we're in and that people will catch on, wake up, and things will get better?
Most likey. But that would require an extraordiany amount of mindset chsnge in the majority.
Believe in Generation Zyklon B.
For such a shift, a collapse may be the only option
Hockey mask time boys
The Purge
What are some of the most harsh truths you guys had to face?
The fact that I was a bitch and relied on others to validate my exsistence.
kek out of kek
The hardest truth in life i got yet was that it sometimes doesn't matter how much work you put into a person (especially woman) to make their lifes better, you wont get anything back if you face the same thing
When’s the next live stream
@A-B rebel not for a bit I have some vids i want to make first
One of my harshest truths is that if you're kind to everyone people see you as weak and treat you as such and don't take you seriously. People tend to treat you based on how they perceive you, plus you have to choose your battles wisely.
I have a question you guys
Why the hell did they put in anime babes on here?
@blackknight14 don't question it
Sorry, I was just curious. 😔
Anyone Who Doesn't like Hentai is Welcome to LEAVE.
@blackknight14 it's a great weapon against feminism. Also, it helps men to NOT return to the plantation
Thanks for clearing that up
@blackknight14 Or just mute the area like I did.
if you already had 2 daughters, would you still roll again to get a son?
the chances to get another girl statisticly speaking are 0.125 so 12.5%. If it still happens would you cry in your basement?
@Mysteriedingens yes, I would roll the dice again. Besides, I would try to found a son in law for the other two girls
Mgtow communitties are the best places to find a son in law 😈
take me master kazemaru<:tellmemore:480186120823373835>
My apprentice!!
Why cant we share YT links in General chat?
Where can I?
Can I post a meme
Ask for promition from the meme gods, @ZODD and @Andrew The Meme King
Does anybody of you have experience with the nootropic Phenibut?
I drink alcohol 1-2 a month roughly said and may want to replace that with taking phenibut. I know Alcohol and Phenibut both work as an NDMA-Antagonist and bind to GABA-Receptors. Phenibut though does not have the depressing side effects on the body alcohol has. Both can get you addicted. Phenibut is not tested in drug tests. Phenibut is not an official drug in most countries.
Does anybody know reason for ddjs pocket Thot for existing
I need answers
she wants a mgtow man, so she follows us around hoping one of us will dick her down...
That hoe looks old in the face
@Happy Humble Hermit I know you know the answer to that
Attention probably, from a group of men who don't easily offer a woman attention.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I only just found out about this mgtow branch. Is it like the opposite of feminism to you? And how do y'all define it? What does it mean to you?
MGTOW is not feminism, it's not about changing anything, it's living life without want for female validation etc.,
MGTOW to me means realizing how useless women are and that their validation is also useless. Were it not for sexual reproduction, society wouldn't realistically need women. It's about focusing yourself and being the best man you can be for yourself, not for women. It's also about not getting cheated by other women and even other men too. It's about self improvement and self actualization also.
Doesn't focusing on not getting female validation kind of defeat the purpose of not wanting it in the first place? Focusing on yourself makes absolute sense but it seems illogical to simultaneously spend time bashing women in your heads since your attention drifts back to them by thinking you are doing this to not be a slave to what women think of you. You're thereby obviously putting the female sex back in your thoughts which interferes with wanting to be "the best man you can be for yourself" (according to your definition). To me, this sounds suspiciously similar to women claiming to "put on make-up for themselves".
Just a variant on the other side. Is it not merely the same thing but in green?
Also, another thing I am curious about; you said society wouldn't really need women (other than for reproduction). So what is the determining factor that men are a necissity? Greater physical strength?
Intellect, think of what women have invented vs. what men have invented.
Also, people have lives, just because people spend time discussing stuff about women or the system, doesn't mean that's all they do.
I don't see how that interferes with anything.
@Artemis also, most of us cant really deny that we think about women sometimes. Its not so bad either. Just don't get pulled in with emotional manipulation. Im 21 i, my boner is pretty active in seeking women. I just conciously choose not to chase
I wasn't saying that it's all you do. How would I know? You seem to do it nevertheless. It just seemed a bit hypocritical to me since talking about it at all means that in some regard it must matter and is, at least for that period of time, your focus
But yea, Mysteriedingens (Deutsch?) clarifies it a little I guess
It doesn't get you female validation.
It's not that big of a priority in life anyways.
MGTOW is not about the assumption that women dont matter. Its just not worth it
Ya, Deutsch
Women don't matter to you is part of what it is.
What is not worth what?
Okay. Gotcha.
I mean not all of us are on a marriage strike or waiting to get back into a relationship if the system was okay.
@Artemis The juice is not worth the squeeze. The time, the resources, the effort, the emotional damage. The monogamous duties
doesnt change that i still think some girls look cute or some shit, its just in my nature and i try to embrace my natural instincs as i think its healthy to do so
That's a common thing anyway nowadays, isn't it? @ColdEmbraceOfDeath why is the term mgtow necessary?
I don't see how that is a common thing.
@Artemis in my surrounding nearly every guy seeks a relationship, i see it.
Take a country like mine, the marriage rates are up, birth rates are up, yet marriage as a thing isn't that great.
however please move the discussion to <#471844105463529472>
You stand to gain shit from a marriage in the current even in the absence of a system that backs women up, a woman's duties aren't the same the way it used to be in the past. Electricity and machines exist to do what women had to do manually.
Is it realistic to assume that since most people have their own self interest in mind that the chances are they are manipulating you into catering to their own needs over yours almost all the time during interactions?
And people generally expect you to sacrifice yourself in some way only to help them out, while they could care less about what you want?
You're not wrong to assume that, that's how most people are. Most human relationships aren't unconditional and are transactional after all, those what is involved is what differs a lot.
I ask this because I can never really know what the intentions of other people are. I've just lost trust in people in general based on what I've been learning and seeing.
A lot of this stuff can be work related and career related. You can't assume your bosses that you will have throughout your life actually care about you
It really isn't as simple as keeping your head down at work and working hard, especially if you want to do well. Everybody wants to do well, so that creates competition and I don't like competing at work
So I'm trying to figure out the career game, so I can at least have some sort of future. All I know is that playing the game requires serious involvement in the politics at work and being creative/clever/and sometimes ruthless.
Bosses don't care about you, you are at best a number on a file, they just want work from you.
Your friends at work aren't the same as friends you could have elsewhere.
People can also be measured for how much you can trust them. If someone its trying to help you, that someone is trying to gain trust points. The more trustfull, the more valluable you are.
Well, hard work alone doesn't get you far as it could, you have to put up a front and be approachable, likeable, etc., to them to survive in the office environment.
Boop.
Would you recommend going monk mode on a early age? I kind of want to detach from everything and just leave work all on myself. But it seems depressing and lonely
Similar situation. Since the teenage brain is developing, it's cares more about connections and relationships due to science and such, making it harder from my experiance to be alone. But if you can make the journey it could be worth it, I'm still not sure.
How would you know if girl is being chameleon when you are talking to her?
@Chained Ant1vst my personal opinion is : you should try out relationships, but never forget ( and thats the hard part) that they are definitely not forever and love is temporary if existent at all
and i would suggest you to only start dating if your desire to find a girl that will fulfill you is gone
a girlfriend should be an accesoir, you are the price in the game
dont spend resources on unsure things and stay always top of your game.
every women will tell you mgtow is for loosers and blabla. Dont listen to their words, listen to their actions.
And you will see when the honeymoon is over. Then its time to break up and take that reference / life experience to decide if you should continue to date
@Chained Ant1vst As soon as you start to play with fire, you get burned. Thats why you gotta do self checks and keep being aware of everything in a distant picture
thanks, i had a toxic relationship before so i can relate
@Chained Ant1vst me too man. Two years long. that happes when you are falling to the soulmate shit
@Deleted User you could never know 🤷🏽♂️. Master manipulators.
So your saying be careful.
🤔
Cover your six at all times ☠️👾🔫
Ok
Oh another question
What are telltale signs that a girl is lying?
If shit feels like it ain't adding up it probably isn't
Oh so trust you instinct/gut 👍
If you feel like you can’t trust her, or something’s off, it really isn’t worth the stress man. Stress is the number one killer. If you cant trust women in general then take a break from them altogether.
@Happy Humble Hermit do you actually like fishing?
@Mysteriedingens I'm new to it, the logo has another meaning beyond literal fishing
@Happy Humble Hermit I wanna get my fishing license soon. I Love fishing. Its like an act of sovereignty and peace which i think is also depicted in the metaphorical layer of your logo. A lot of rules to look for in Germany though.
@Morgan Semen whats the whole story on this matter? Are u aware of it? https://scroll.in/latest/897440/bihar-nine-people-in-custody-for-attack-on-schoolgirls-who-resisted-sexual-advances
@everyone what is your opinion about watching pornographic content. Also after the general question whats your opinion on pornos in monkmode
no pmo = disipline
Nofap=Super sayan energy
If you're addicted to porn, then no fap + something else to focus on besides fap = super saiyan energy. If you never watched porn or fap, then that's also dangerous for you might be either indifferent to sex in general or so sheltered that you might have difficulty when you do find a partner/sex doll.
self control = super saiyan energy pmo is ok but the dependence on it (and many other things) is where you get losses
how does round table work ?
@wildgamer the roundtable is sort of a free form discussion. where we bring topics and discuss them. there may be debates. or discussions on whatever. to get inot the roundtable during a stream just hop into the roundtable on hold channel
try to have a good topic to bring forward. we are going to be working on getting mods for the roundtable to make it a bit more structured.
alright sounds cool. how are you planning to do mods have another chat room with a mod to talk to, to get your topic approved ?
ill have to get back to you on that. were working on it
@Happy Humble Hermit have you heard of zo Williams
@A-B rebel no
He’s on YouTube you should check him out
He talks about the how the gynocentric society is
So does TFM
Instead of taking away women's rights to vote, do you think its possible to change the system by destroying and rebuilding it?
The system will be destroyed. But people will die. If that can be avoided then that's great. But I don't think it will be avoided. Because people want to feel good about themselves now. And not secure the future by doing things that make them uncomfortable.
But to answer your question. Yes rebuilding would solve alot of the problems. BUT. Women still can't have rights. Because we will just get the same thing
Should we stick with a Republic like we have now or have a constitutional monarchy, but with the King actually having power instead of being a figurehead.
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