@Sam Amari Have you reached out to insurance/charities yet?

idk about charities. there's not much to reach out to my insurance about. they're not going to be like, oh,w e'll make it less expensive

@Rockets Hey man!

@Sam Amari True but they might have references for generic drugs or treatments?

You can always turn to GoFundMe as well.

im Soo Desensitized i don't even know how Charities Work TBH.

There are a lot of scams honestly.

I only donate directly to individuals.

You Know What Would BE DOPE AS FUCK.
a Kick Starter Collab For the Dopest Red Pill/ Mgtow Content Creators to Make a Script and Produce a a Film For the Modern Man in Western Civilization.

I'd be down.

so after spending like an hour troubleshooting and running windows repair and shit i just found out that my bios reset and was using the wrong hard drive as my boot drive. and it took 2 seconds to fix. someone just fucking smash my head in with a hammer please

alright.... but remember, you asked for it. (.....takes a BIG swing with a hammer **SPLoRCH!)

thx 👌

Hey @machtyn and all, whats shakin

nm. just working on school shit

Playing FGO and watching youtube

are all you guys MGTOW??

Mgtow is Subjective
but theres two Iron Rules : no cohabitation / no marriage with women
if you Follow those Rules then u are a Basic Mgtow.

I wouldn't think so, if youre talking slavery, or imprisonment, then your moral compass is out of whack

Sex Slaves are different , if they live under your roof then they will be a Problem and Suck ur Resources like a PARASITE.

would be co-habitation

So question then, how does one deal with the pressure of producing offspring?

de-prioritize?

i think thats a question each mgtow man will have to figure out for themselves. i honestly dont care about kids and am in monk mode right now. im not nofap but i am on monk mode. there are options. such as adoption, surrogacy, ect. however surrogacy has some risk. and adoption can be difficult. there are no easy answers in life.

thanks, I'm just trying to figure out how to handle the idea, I'm the youngest, and well last hope for my family line. I personally can de value it, but finding it a hard idea to give up, and probably won't be able to.

Women Expect Your Servitude has a good discussion on it

if you want kids you should consider the following:

-do i really want to bring children into this world. where if they are male they are second class citizens and can be jailed for being men and if they are women they are basically slaves to the government through welfare, dependance on aid for stuff, bullshit media ect..

-you will have to make alot more money if you want kids. which means full time, a much higher paying job than normal which means way more stress. its becoming harder and harder to be able to afford kids on top of all the bullshit and risks with whimminz

-if its purely you want to maintain your genetic legacy consider that within like 2 generations your genes are basically almost gone from the family. as well your kids could not have kids themselves. thus defeating the purpose anyway.

its really up to you. just make sure you consider everything

I hear you, those are good points, but I think this just highlights a difference for me, and that passing on the family line has nothing to do with genetic material, but that of the soul

unless I can detach that belief...

for me, I'm not filthy rich, but I will be, so money wont be a problem

@Rockets I was like you once, thinking I needed to keep the family line going because of how I was raised. Then I realized that at the rate technology is advancing, transmitting the legacy of my family is no longer an issue when we can just achieve a form of functional immortality by uploading our minds and/or reducing the aging process - transhumanism idea's aside - it's your life and you must live it as you see fit, not for others who live through you vicariously.

something seems off about that for me

About what

well, its not about living vicariously

or is it?

I'm mulling it over

Okay, take your time - no rush.

I can see both how it is selfish, and selfless either way

Yep, I'm nutz. I think my the reason I can't let it go has to do with esoteric ideas

which lie outside of reason

hey guys give me your opinions

for the new hermit herald video, should I have a still background like the "this week in stupid" videos from sargon or should I have some gameplay in the background with the articles on top of it

this week in stupid, that a vid in your list?

from sargon

found it, I'd say use the background, moving stuff is for me a bit distracting if I'm supposed to be reading, unless it's a short read, then you can bounce back and forth

and then the game would be good candy added

Why not try both? Do one video with a static background as you go about your commentary and one with a dynamic background - then see what the majority of your viewers enjoy.

I favor both for different reasons

can't put duplicate videos p

No no, I mean two seperate videos

One topic covered has a static background and then the next topic try a dynamic background

I wasnt clear enough

I'm still watching one of sargon's vids, I think the background is a bit boring atm

I think I'll go against my initial statement, dynamic/gaming will help hold interest

The drive to continue the family line comes from my life and the family I come from, genes be damned if you will

if they have kids

and no your genes wont increase.

it gets halved every generation

Its certainly more important to me to raise a child and teach them the ways of the world, that is what is important to pass on, because that is indeed what forms the future

you dont have to have kids to do that. socretes didnt need to have kids for his teachings to be present even today

true

if you want kids. go ahead. its everybodys choice. but dont feel like you need to in order to pass on your legacy and teachings

It's hard to be the last one with the option, I have aging parents, a brother that married an infertile older woman, one dead brother, and I'm the last option, who's for the most part gone mgtow, although I don't consider myself one

yea but thats because you had the kid. if you have a kid you have that responsiblity. but not having a kid means you dont have to teach them. besides. there are plenty of orphans you can teach if you wish.

right, its against reason

you know you could just type out longer segments to avoid the spambot stopping your shit

@Rockets don't have a kid dude

its not a problem. im just giving you dem **pro tips**

anyway what your saying is fine and all. but the facts are still a problem. everything is exponentially more expensive now. were in a big cultural shitstorm where the values of the west are being overtaken, there are huge economic crises on the horizon. and men are basically treated like garbage. do you really want to bring a kid into that? i dont. who cares if i have a bond with the kid. the kid still has to deal with all this bullshit. at least if you adopt a kid. that kid is already here.

^ all of that

plus never bank on your kid not having autism/down syndrome/or shitty health problems like mine (pectus excavatum, polycystic kidneys)

Isn't this just avoiding the problem, isn't the goal to get through all this shitstorm?

Shitstorm is absolutely unavoidable. You are uninformed about the state of the world and what is coming. Straight up.

me? tell that to society

then you are blind

Lmao you're fucking blind then 9030

take a look at /r/collapse

so?

I still believe in the good of mankind, in everyone

what does that have to do with the fact that we have limited resources and the world will become uninhabitable soon?

plenty of people lead happy lives in nazi germany. it was still a terrible place. plenty of people led good lives in communist russia. still there were millions starving.

yeah, I hear that

none of these statements justify bringing a child into this world

shame on you if you do so, straight up

I'm just struggling in giving up the idea entirely, it's a divide

if you want to go ahead. as long as you recognize your responsibility to it and can give it strength and a good start. thats how i see it

i still will see you as an absolute asshole for creating another kid when there's millions of starving orphans. because of your gEnEtIc LeGaCy that no one gives a shit about except your parents.

in response to that. again. changing your life and being a better person has little to do with brining another person into the world to go through the same shit.

@Sam Amari No need to get angry at me, you don't know me or my family's story, dont judge so quickly

great. good for her. i have no interest in that. not in todays world

its up to you to decide your interest in having kids. i dont disparage you for it. nor do i applaud you.

this is still all anecdoatal storys. im talking about the facts. whats happenening

i will judge anyone who brings a kid into the world in 2018

i just want people to be informed. then make their own decisions based on that

I've heard one of the primary arguments against it is the resource drain, but what about in the future, when resources aren't a problem? will you give up your mgtow ways? or do you see it as a lifelong journey...

thats your life experience. its not mine. i wont speak on my life experience and tell you about my life and how that contributes to my decision to have a kid. ill give you the facts and let you decide

what about the future when resources aren't a problem? what reality are you living in dude?

why do you think we're going to magically fix everything with technology?

@Sam Amari I grow my own food

so?

that's not going to stop global temperature rise

For a capable person, resources aren't a problem

and also. you could work and earn money. or you could just keep playing the lottery and gambling. thats another way. however it isnt automatically better. you have to look at the facts.

lmao why are ou talking to these guys @shadowlessnexus

they have to be 16 or something. so naive.

@Sam Amari because i like discussion and debates

I program robots for a living

ugh

why count on it being easy?

for every winner there has to be plenty of losers

why do you think you are going to be the winner?

optimism bias

plan to be the loser. not the winner

and work with that. then you can be happy. and if you do win. thats just a bonus

@9574 bro, mainstream news is reporting that we have 12 years to act before catastrophic global climate change. that's in the mainstream news now. Jimmy Kimmell and shit.

im in the computer science field

also i agree sam. whats the point of that statement?

what's my point? you guys are saying shit like "for a capable person, resources aren't a problem" and "society isn't that bad". you are insanely naive.

ok but how does climate change effect that

im talking about the problems in society

climate change affects absolutely everything.

why is it naive? I can grow food in a bunker if I have to

there's no "society" if we cannot grow food

man, i wish i could be that naie

*naive. probably feels good to deny reality.

@9574 ok. so what? one guy got lucky. nobody should base their life around being lucky. you should plan on not making much. then adopt a lifestyle according to that. and work your way towards making more

what i want is to be financially stable. and i can do that. i dont need to win the lottery

yeah dude. imagine how many rappers there are compared to people who want to be rappers. for one example.

millions try, and there are like 100 slots

for every person that does well there are like 10000 that fail

the way you see reality is that since someone else got lucky and made it you will too? is that what your saying?

London and New York have so many fucking homeless people in them dude

sure theres a chance you will get hit by lightning. but you wont.

if you want my advice. have a plan b fam

do what you need to do. but have a plan b

it will absolutely happen in your life time

not 100 years. there is nothing i'm more sure of.

yea. i have one. complete my degree. then get work in the tech industry

good plan

whats your plan a?

become Bill Gates lmao

i dont think women are holding back anything.. and i am happy.

i love my lifestyle

your future will absolutely be better if you start accepting the cold hard truths

if you keep living with your head in the sand acting like climate disaster is 100 years off, you're fucking yourself. you're not preparing for whats coming.

sam to be frank. there is no climate disaster

i would not advise any college aged student to take on a bunch of debt for a career right now

@shadowlessnexus oh okay, you sure convinced me

they said we would be fucked by 2009. then they moved it to 2015 and so on

LOL.

Im not really interested in entertaining doomsday, its outside of anyones control, I would recommend learning survival skills if that is a concern of yours

Its. in. the. main. stream. news.

Governments around the world must take "rapid, far-reaching and unprecedented changes in all aspects of society" to avoid disastrous levels of global warming, says a stark new report from the global scientific authority on climate change.

The report issued Monday by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), says the planet will reach the crucial threshold of 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels by as early as 2030, precipitating the risk of extreme drought, wildfires, floods and food shortages for hundreds of millions of people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gDErDwXqhc here watch this

If you aren't already paying attention to the extreme droughts, food shortages and hurricanes that are ALREADY happening, you're just an ostrich with your head in the sand

right

Who says I'm not doing both?

have you looked into why droughts are happening in california?

sure obama says its climate change

thats not what ive read

tell me how you think the California droughts happened then

i dont believe that climate change is fake. of course it isnt.

You know, Cali built a desalination plant in the 90s to fix its draught problem

hang on

you've just revealed that you're partisan and into democrats versus republicans so i already know your opinion. but go ahead

They decided not to use it after building it

The data has been tweaked to show what they want to see

https://thinkprogress.org/boehner-blames-california-drought-on-obama-9f50f996b1f9/

thats what i think

ive done the research

You haven't. If you deny climate change in 2018, you've done no research.

The world is getting cooler every year,

have you?

Yes @shadowlessnexus I spend a lot of time on the subject

it can't be predicted nor changed.

too much to catch up on.....

have you even looked at the studies that support climate change? many of them of either misrepresented in the census or in fact are skeptikal. not nearly as many as is claimed support climate change. which are based on computer models that have already been proven wrong

by nature itself

Climate change has always been a hoax

its a real thing

how?

we just dont have nearly the impact on it as is portrayed

We have virtually no impact

Climate changes = fact, mankind causes climate change = hearsay

welp thats enough of this discord

The climate goes through cycles

makes sense....just blow out of poportion to manipulate others

We are overdue for an ice age

@Sam Amari alright fam. if you dont want to debate me thats fine. no hard feelings i hope

When it comes it wont be us that brought it

Unless of course it's a nuclear winter

can anyone dm me on how to patrean without doxxing myself

@Sam Amari The IPCC is also calling for the dismantling of Capitalism because it's a threat to Earth. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/09/ericholthaus-new-ipcc-report-calls-for-rigorous-backing-to-systematically-dismantle-capitalism/

regardless of that. communism is a threat to humanity.

and that is 100 percent proven already

Yup 😄

Every time communism has been implemented it failed and millions died

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTTaXqVEGkU if anybody is interested in what im talking about with the whole climate change consensus thing this is a good place to start

stef can be a trad cuck at times. but the man does his homework

plus hes kinda funny

@machtyn at least one of you is sane

stefan molynuex

hes a philosopher

we know who he is man

stefan molynazi

9030 asked me.

whats SL used to call him

if you read the chat you would see

@machtyn wait are you a denier? i can't tell

can't post links?

only certain people can

is this a citation battle on climate change?

i guess

why is MGTOW so fucking American Right-Wing. jesus christ

@Sam Amari I don't deny it. It's definitely occurring. The issue is how quickly we need to act and the issue is the UN and IPCC is literally calling for capitalism to be dismantled. It's being used politically by both sides.

@Sam Amari why so negative on everything?

Hes going through some shit

@Sam Amari not believeing in human made climate change doesnt make me a right winger

@Rockets miss me with that "why are u negative" shit

i dont call you a leftie for believing in it

I'm not one

I'm green party

I'm right leaning on most social issues. But the most important issue of all, climate change, is where I have to be associated with "leftism". even though im not.

Al Gore fucked everything up by making that movie. He made it a partisan issue.

he did it for money

there's essentially no people on earth that believe climate change is hoax except for American Right-wing people. Everyone in Europe/Asia accepts it essentially

That's true too

so? many people believe communism will work doesnt mean it works

if you want to debate me do it on the facts

That seems like an irrelevant tangent

saying everyone just accepts it is irrelevant

Facts? Dude I posted the IPCC report. That's about as factual as it gets. Then you posted some paragraph that was essentially "duuude do you even do you research? that shits... like... fake, man"

Let me ask you a question, what gases make up our atmosphere and by what percent?

everyone accepts that gynocentrism is good but its not. im not interested in popular opinion right or wrong im interested in facts.

Ok would any of you spend $60 on Black Ops 4? This is the real question.

mostly nitrogen

Negative

@machtyn nope

According to NASA, the gases in Earth's atmosphere include:
Nitrogen — 78 percent.
Oxygen — 21 percent.
Argon — 0.93 percent.
Carbon dioxide — 0.04 percent.
Trace amounts of neon, helium, methane, krypton and hydrogen, as well as water vapor.

Now

whats the point tho?

@9574 without question

@9574 you think it isnt?

@Sam Amari I disagree the IPCC report is entirely factual. It's being used to politically destroy capitalism with hyperbolic numbers. There is a scientist who refuted the numbers. Let me try to find him.

CO2 makes the less than a tenth of a percent of our atmosphere and you're telling me that were causing global warming? Bullshit.

Dude no one is going to destroy capitalism. You're discrediting the information because you're acting like there's some agenda behind it when there is not.

you dont know what gynocentrism is then @9574

@Sam Amari you are naive - there is always an agenda