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2018-10-13 20:29:39 UTC

@hel Yes! Except, I am going on prolonged fast. The longest I went was 4 days so I know I got this.

2018-10-13 20:29:52 UTC

Buddha mode

2018-10-13 20:30:02 UTC

@hel That's low.

2018-10-13 20:30:22 UTC

You want 800 ng/dl

2018-10-13 20:30:30 UTC

300-1100 ng/dl is the range I believe

2018-10-13 20:30:38 UTC

I wonder if NoFap has anything to do with it

2018-10-13 20:30:40 UTC

Technically 350 is "normal" but it's low.

2018-10-13 20:30:52 UTC

I mean, I'm not an expert on T levels but I'd trust the doc if he says you're okay

2018-10-13 20:31:01 UTC

Naw, sleep/cortisol/caffeine/food/lifting

2018-10-13 20:31:20 UTC

@KenneticEnergy Are activist doctors a thing?

2018-10-13 20:31:26 UTC

@Deleted User I don't remember exactly when I noticed PC culture but 1992 seems about right.

2018-10-13 20:31:30 UTC

@KenneticEnergy Don't trust doctors ๐Ÿ˜„ "High carb low fat is healthy!" No, thanks.

2018-10-13 20:31:34 UTC

Like activist judges or something.

2018-10-13 20:31:44 UTC

I graduated high school in '89 and worked in the trades

2018-10-13 20:31:46 UTC

@The Tradesman Oh definitely, but physiologically no one man is going to have the same T levels

2018-10-13 20:31:52 UTC

@KenneticEnergy Or... most doctors, at least.

2018-10-13 20:31:55 UTC

Actually, my doc advocates the keto+if. @machtyn

2018-10-13 20:32:00 UTC

so I did not have much exposure to the office enviornment

2018-10-13 20:32:10 UTC

@machtyn Actually you do need glucose and carbs to live mate lol

2018-10-13 20:32:34 UTC

Just don't go crazy and eat like mcdonalds 24-7, moderation is the key

2018-10-13 20:32:36 UTC

anyway I have to run off for a bit. BBL.

2018-10-13 20:32:38 UTC

@KenneticEnergy Yes, you do. Your body converts it from fat to run the brain.

2018-10-13 20:32:45 UTC

goodbye @Lilu

2018-10-13 20:33:09 UTC

You don't need to EAT carbs/sugars.

2018-10-13 20:33:11 UTC

It also depends on how active you are too, nutrition is highly personable tbh

2018-10-13 20:33:18 UTC

Yes!

2018-10-13 20:33:31 UTC

Agreed. I personally eat a little brown rice when I go sparring.

2018-10-13 20:33:45 UTC

I wanna rewatch Fight Club one of these days

2018-10-13 20:33:45 UTC

@machtyn Yes you do, to allow the basic metabolic functions of your body to take place. You need carbs and glucose. This is fact

2018-10-13 20:33:50 UTC

When I lift without brown rice, I am flat in performance but I get a better physical response.

2018-10-13 20:34:00 UTC

@KenneticEnergy No, you do not.

2018-10-13 20:34:06 UTC

xDD

2018-10-13 20:34:10 UTC

The body converts fat into glucose.

2018-10-13 20:34:50 UTC

As an older guy...you just have to watch the portions. Like when I do get fast food......its a small drink. small fries, and a small burger

2018-10-13 20:34:51 UTC

The brain needs 100-150 grams of glucose to function. The body taps that from fat stores if no glucose is eaten.

2018-10-13 20:34:54 UTC

Dude. If I don't get any carbs, or any sodium, or any glucose in my diet I'm quickly gonna become malnourished. Tell me how long you can go with a 0 carb, 0 glucose, and 0 sodium diet. You'll be diabetic before you know it

2018-10-13 20:35:12 UTC

Moderation, is the key word. Most people OD on carbs, fat, sodium

2018-10-13 20:35:29 UTC

@KenneticEnergy You will eat a small amount of carbs from vegetables. When did I ever say you needed no sodium/electrolytes?

2018-10-13 20:35:36 UTC

Weight doesn't "melt" off me anymore

2018-10-13 20:35:37 UTC

Well it's recommended to take some electrolytes on the keto diet.

2018-10-13 20:35:52 UTC

Veggies provide the "essential" 20g carbs.

2018-10-13 20:35:53 UTC

@machtyn My bad, I thought you were advocating for a diet absent of those nutrients lol

2018-10-13 20:35:59 UTC

@KenneticEnergy Not at all.

2018-10-13 20:36:44 UTC

@KenneticEnergy It is a myth that you need to eat carbs/sugars to sustain yourself though. You can eat fats and under 20mg carbs via veggies. Also, if you eat more than 40-80 grams of protein that will convert to glucose as well.

2018-10-13 20:37:17 UTC

@KenneticEnergy So these "carnivore diet" people are actually converting to glucose without realizing it probably.

2018-10-13 20:37:29 UTC

and sometimes...grabbing a lunch out.....yeah, a salad is the meal, and not some ginorous thing that chicks eat with 1000 pounds of dressing, chicken, cheese.....

2018-10-13 20:37:52 UTC

I'm not advocating for a carnivore diet, I'm simply saying based off scientific fact you need some ammount of carbs, and glucose to live. Or at least function properly

2018-10-13 20:38:18 UTC

The optimal diet is different for each individual. I personally have seen the keto (with IF) to be most effective at lowering insulin/inflammation and thus reducing fat accumulation and burning off stored fat. However, you don't perform better than someone eating more carbs probably. I don't think that research has been done.

2018-10-13 20:38:20 UTC

@machtyn Some people who start diets and have no idea what they're doing end up hurting themselves

2018-10-13 20:38:42 UTC

@KenneticEnergy I agree. I wasn't saying you advocated carnivore. I was using that as an example.

2018-10-13 20:39:06 UTC

@machtyn I gotcha. Again it was my bad for misreading

2018-10-13 20:39:25 UTC

Unless you're eating a cow in a sitting, protein doesn't effect ketosis.

2018-10-13 20:39:30 UTC

@KenneticEnergy Yes but you're confusing dietary carbs/glucose with bio-available glucose. The body will convert stored fat to glucose. Why do you think engineers in Silicone Valley are fasting and using keto to clear brain fog?

2018-10-13 20:39:58 UTC

@hel I don't think that is correct.

2018-10-13 20:40:11 UTC

@machtyn True, btw they're also microdosing on some pretty heavy stuff like acid and what not. So I hear lol

2018-10-13 20:40:24 UTC

You're still in ketosis, yes, but you are converting that protein to glucose for brain function.

2018-10-13 20:40:33 UTC

seen plenty of overweigh engineers in the SIlicon Valley

2018-10-13 20:40:34 UTC

Overeating protein will *slow* the rate of ketone production, not increase the rate of glucose production.

2018-10-13 20:40:37 UTC

@KenneticEnergy Oh, well that would help ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-10-13 20:40:46 UTC

@hel Ah, that makes sense.

2018-10-13 20:40:56 UTC

@Deleted User Of course. They sit all day.

2018-10-13 20:41:12 UTC

Worked there for 20 years

2018-10-13 20:41:17 UTC

100 grams of protein will convert to 50 grams of glucose @hel

2018-10-13 20:41:45 UTC

@Deleted User Yeah, you were telling me about that. Thanks for the heads up. I won't ever move there but I will work for a company there for good money remotely ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-10-13 20:41:47 UTC

@machtyn Yeah, I'm in anatomy right now and we looked at a human brain that was from an individual who died as a result of cocaine abuse. The brain looked black, and that was from the destroyed blood vessels as a result of cocaine use. I was shocked

2018-10-13 20:42:03 UTC

@KenneticEnergy That is insane.

2018-10-13 20:42:14 UTC

@KenneticEnergy That is awesome though! What's your career goal?

2018-10-13 20:42:20 UTC

Kennetic......people are doing LSD again????? WT Freak!

2018-10-13 20:42:46 UTC

@machtyn Yeah, especially if you think about how toxic blood is to neurons.. def a recipe for disaster.

2018-10-13 20:42:53 UTC

I'm trying to get into nursing school haha

2018-10-13 20:43:41 UTC

@Deleted User Yeah, Silicon Valley is apparently full of software engineers and social media engineers who are microdosing on acid and other psychadelics. It's crazy

2018-10-13 20:44:01 UTC

I am lucky.........my cocaine abuse............I came through it with most of my brain still inatct....but man.....at tax time, following the forms for all the clients I have.....yeah, there was a side effect...I have to go real. real slow

2018-10-13 20:44:11 UTC

They're doing it as a way to "concentrate" better, but it's insaine. That's like taking vicodin for a minor headache

2018-10-13 20:44:18 UTC

Have not done LSD since 1992.........

2018-10-13 20:44:59 UTC

@Deleted User For sure man. I heard back in the 80s/90s it was considered like a "classy" or "rich person's" drug lol

2018-10-13 20:45:22 UTC

I have several family members who suffered from cocaine addiction. Theyre clean now though

2018-10-13 20:45:45 UTC

LSD got popular on college campuses at the end of the 1980's......cocaine was and is still expensive. Nasty evil drug

2018-10-13 20:46:03 UTC

Been clean since 2004

2018-10-13 20:46:29 UTC

@Deleted User That's awesome for you, yeah I can never imagine ever taking those drugs. Stuff is literally poison

2018-10-13 20:47:08 UTC

I was raised better and I knew better but still did it anyway.....behaving like a woman.....blaming everything that was wrong in my life on "someone else"

2018-10-13 20:47:14 UTC

thankfully I got over THAT

2018-10-13 20:47:58 UTC

What baffles me though, is how strong nicotine is. Apparently it's easier for someone to quit a hard drug like cocaine or heroin than to come off of nicotine

2018-10-13 20:48:06 UTC

I still smoke cigarettes

2018-10-13 20:48:39 UTC

debatable.....my dad quit after 45 years of smoking. He just decided he was "done" and this was back in the 1980's

2018-10-13 20:48:47 UTC

@Deleted User They have some awesome programs out there if you're looking to quit. Statistically they say for most people it takes about 4-5 tries

2018-10-13 20:49:03 UTC

I really don't want to quit, truth be told

2018-10-13 20:49:25 UTC

That's amazing. Yeah my dad was the same way, some people are just able to put it down while for others it's worse than coming off of cocaine or heroin

2018-10-13 20:50:23 UTC

I don't smoke in the apt....even if it was allowed, I would still take it outside. The cost is a ton, and that has reduced my smoking. A pack now lasts me three days. I used to smoke two a day in the 1990's

2018-10-13 20:51:23 UTC

Cigarettes didn't kill my dad. He died in his sleep back in 2014 from an anuerism

2018-10-13 20:52:00 UTC

Yeah, there's so many taxes and stuff placed on it it's expensive. And I'm sorry for your loss..

2018-10-13 20:52:58 UTC

The old man was 84. He died in his chair while taking a nap. Not in a hospital. Not some slow, long, agonizing death...........mom died back in 2010, undected cancer. She felt no pain

2018-10-13 20:53:06 UTC

until it was too late

2018-10-13 20:54:23 UTC

@Deleted User At least he wasn't in pain, that's the good thing. And yeah cancer is such a silent killer, a lot of people don't realize they have it until it's stage 2 or 3

2018-10-13 20:55:21 UTC

mom was like that. didn't smoke or drink.......went to her yearly checkup......her ovaries were huge.....she was past stage two going into stage threee. No pain. Six months later. Gone

2018-10-13 20:56:08 UTC

@KenneticEnergy That is awesome! Good luck. Nursing is an amazing field. Isn't the base pay for an RN like 70k in most states?

2018-10-13 20:56:13 UTC

that was a shock. dad.......I was happy for him.......died a way that many will never have. Quietly at home. Book in lap. fell asleep, never woke up

2018-10-13 20:56:31 UTC

@Deleted User That sounds amazing ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-10-13 20:57:32 UTC

@Deleted User Wow.. that's crazy. I had a great aunt who smoked like 5 packs a day every day of her life and never came down with any kind of cancer. Died of old age at 98. Sometimes the cards we're dealt with don't add up

2018-10-13 20:59:01 UTC

@machtyn Yeah it pays pretty well, but I'm not doing it for the money. When I was getting cancer surgery last year and the nurses made me feel so calm, when I was scared out of my mind. That's when I knew what my calling was

2018-10-13 21:00:05 UTC

I wanna specialize in med-surg, and do either pre-op or recovery

2018-10-13 21:00:55 UTC

the tech that they utilize now for surgery and recovery is amazing. I can't even imagine what it's gonna be like in another 20-30 years

2018-10-13 21:01:24 UTC

@KenneticEnergy Wow that is amazing inspiration.

2018-10-13 21:01:56 UTC

@machtyn anatomy is kicking my butt right now but it's fascinating stuff haha. I take physiology and microbio next semester

2018-10-13 21:02:13 UTC

Awesome!

2018-10-13 21:03:23 UTC

@machtyn How about you? What field or career are you in or trying to get into?

2018-10-13 21:08:21 UTC

My mom was an RN......35 years with the VA........the last ten years of her career was in OR. She dropped a tool......she then realized, time to retire. Loved her work that woman

2018-10-13 21:13:26 UTC

@Deleted User I always am amazed at hearing stories from experienced RNs, my anatomy prof has been in the field for like.. 40 years or more. Nursing is a selfless career for sure, and it takes a certain kind of person to do it. I've thought about maybe going into the VA too, there's something about caring for vets that seems so fulfilling

2018-10-13 21:15:19 UTC

In the 1980's there were "movies" and horror stories about the VA.....yet I knew most of them were false.........the VA where my mom worked was clean, well run, caring........though Reagans' Sec of Veterans affairs back then would dress up as a homeless vet and try to get services to see how he was "treated" by the staff.

2018-10-13 21:15:48 UTC

VA pasy very well for nursing

2018-10-13 21:15:57 UTC

*pays

2018-10-13 21:18:14 UTC

I remember once as a teen going to work with her for the day and "interviewing" some of the old guys from the WW II and a few left from the WW I era for a history project in high school....this was 1982 or thereabouts...it was really fascinating

2018-10-13 21:25:05 UTC

@KenneticEnergy I am 24. I've been in "systems engineering" and "information security" for the past 5 years. I am finishing a role that lets me shadow/work as different roles within a department. I am trying to figure out my niche. I know it's within engineering/math/tech.

2018-10-13 21:25:36 UTC

@KenneticEnergy I am sorry to hear about your surgery too. Are you all good now?

2018-10-13 21:27:30 UTC

Kennetic. My mom was a good RN........she said to me in the 1990's "People can't pass the exams today to be an RN, this is why our country has to import them from India now. It's a demanding field, and too many studying to be a RN have zero passion for it. The test should be hard. People's lives are on the line"

2018-10-13 21:29:45 UTC

@machtyn Ahh I see, yeah that's definitely a good field to get into. You definitely won't have to worry about compensation, it pays very handsomely I'm sure haha

2018-10-13 21:31:37 UTC

And I'm cured, for sure it was a rare form of cancer called DFSP. I went in for a general surgery and had the tumor removed. It definitely changed my outlook on life for sure. I'm a minimalist, and I live for the small simple things in life now. I also spend as much time with the good family relationships as I can, and try to foster good friendships. Although it's interesting how less of my friends I see as I get older. That's life I suppose

2018-10-13 21:32:20 UTC

@Deleted User Oh for sure it's demanding. I mean the science classes alone are enough to put anything through the wringer. Anatomy is beating me up right now but im pulling through

2018-10-13 21:32:58 UTC

I was trained by my udergrad to be an elementary school teacher. After my student teaching in 1988, there was no way I wanted to be a teacher. ANgry women. Bloated administration, loyalty to a Union and the Democratic Party and a hatred of "men"

2018-10-13 21:33:19 UTC

I went to grad school and got an MS in storage systems

2018-10-13 21:34:17 UTC

@Deleted User Jeez, yeah the school work environment now is toxic, I mean I can't imagine any guy wanting to get into it now. I tutored for a few years but was always ticked off by how no one wanted to do the work and just wanted answers given to them lol. I could never be a teacher

2018-10-13 21:34:40 UTC

the "good" teachers today LEAVE

2018-10-13 21:35:27 UTC

Oh I agree. And the union involvement in the education system is basically like a mafia. Nursing unfortunately has fallen prey to many of the symptoms that prey the education field too

2018-10-13 21:36:57 UTC

Education today is nothing more than indoctrination. All of my friends through high school and college turned out to be to the left of Stalin. It's like.. what happened to critical thinking?

2018-10-13 21:38:00 UTC

@KenneticEnergy how old are they?

2018-10-13 21:39:29 UTC

They're my age, but even in high school our "school debates" were nothing more than shaming anyone who thought high taxes and big gov was not the best thing in the world. I started high school in 08' and graduated in 12'. So the Obama craze was in full swing. If you disagreed with him, you were a racist

2018-10-13 21:39:41 UTC

I would like to teach History, but only at the college level

2018-10-13 21:39:42 UTC

so 24/25 years old

2018-10-13 21:40:41 UTC

That's the age were most people are hardcore lefties

2018-10-13 21:41:14 UTC

@Kazemaru The scary part is that for many young people that leftist mentality hasnt gone away, it's almost like doubled-down

2018-10-13 21:41:23 UTC

The age of "change the world" meh!

2018-10-13 21:41:32 UTC

@KenneticEnergy Yeah, I'm making 65-70k right now, so it's decent but I am still figuring myself out. I saved $45k this year so I'm pretty happy.

2018-10-13 21:42:04 UTC

@machtyn teach me sifu

2018-10-13 21:42:13 UTC

@machtyn That's incredible, most of my friends dont even have $1k saved up lol they spend every dime they get

2018-10-13 21:42:34 UTC

Yeah, I want eff you money so I decided to just start now.

2018-10-13 21:42:35 UTC

@machtyn adopt a dog once you get rid your roomates

2018-10-13 21:42:47 UTC

@Kazemaru Yeah, I might! Dogs rock.

2018-10-13 21:42:54 UTC

@Rhunespire Please get into History at the college level and drop some red pills on willing minds

2018-10-13 21:43:50 UTC

@Rhunespire It's easy. Just pay off all debt, keep all expenses low as possible without depriving yourself and earn more and more income every year.

2018-10-13 21:44:17 UTC

@machtyn Minimalism FTW. Dave Ramsey is an excellent source of financial advice too

2018-10-13 21:44:26 UTC

@KenneticEnergy that's the idea, my history professor in college had an inspiring way of teaching - only facts, even the ugly ones

2018-10-13 21:44:33 UTC
2018-10-13 21:44:42 UTC

@KenneticEnergy I own like 120 items ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-10-13 21:45:17 UTC

@Rhunespire I literally had history classes where they taught about the contributions Marx, Stalin and Mao made to humanity

2018-10-13 21:45:45 UTC

And NO ONE, ever brought up the millions they killed. I was shocked.

2018-10-13 21:45:50 UTC

That's insane

2018-10-13 21:46:34 UTC

Stalin is responsible for 30 to 50 million lives more than Hitler. Mao had more than to 50 to 100 million killed

2018-10-13 21:47:01 UTC

Those are conservative estimates too.. no one knows exactly how many died but they still uncover mass graves to this day

2018-10-13 21:47:15 UTC

@Rhunespire "We should give marxism a try." This is a legit comment young cunts make to me at work.

2018-10-13 21:47:17 UTC

Yep

2018-10-13 21:47:33 UTC

Marxism has been tried and it has failed horribly every time

2018-10-13 21:47:36 UTC

I don't respond. I just go "uh-huh."

2018-10-13 21:47:49 UTC

What does work is Capitalism

2018-10-13 21:47:56 UTC

"We're running out of food. We need to kill people instead of increasing supply."

2018-10-13 21:47:59 UTC

@Rhunespire I'm convinced that the people advocating for communism/socialism could be commanded by the government to literally dig their own graves and line up to be shot. And they'd do it happily if they thought it was "progressive"

2018-10-13 21:48:04 UTC

There is no incentive to work.

2018-10-13 21:48:23 UTC

Considering they drank the commie kool-aid I wouldnt be surprised

2018-10-13 21:48:31 UTC

I'd shoot them myself happily

2018-10-13 21:48:39 UTC

Only good commie is a dead one

2018-10-13 21:48:46 UTC

Yea ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-10-13 21:49:12 UTC

These are 19-25 year olds making 70k+ working in a meritocracy and calling for marxism... like they're beyond idiotic.

2018-10-13 21:49:12 UTC

Like in WW2, no one talks about the hundreds of thousands of Polish officers Stalin had killed, and then he lied and said he didnt know what happened to them

2018-10-13 21:49:40 UTC

Stalin was a fucking monster

2018-10-13 21:49:47 UTC

And then decades later, they find the mass graves of the polish officers, and the Russian government only then acknowledges their deaths

2018-10-13 21:49:57 UTC

Paranoid schizophrenic who had his own son killed

2018-10-13 21:50:18 UTC

Haa... Those kids need to learn about the different schools of capitslism

2018-10-13 21:50:18 UTC

Wow.

2018-10-13 21:50:52 UTC

Well, he may not have been schizophrenic- that's my assessment, but he was definitely paranoid

2018-10-13 21:51:05 UTC

And not Batman style paranoia

2018-10-13 21:51:06 UTC

@Rhunespire Yeah seriously. It's the same thing with Che and fucking Castro. People who wear Che shirts dont even know what theyre promoting

2018-10-13 21:51:37 UTC

Che had gays, lesbians, artists, scientists etc killed

2018-10-13 21:51:47 UTC

He was an anarcho-communist

2018-10-13 21:51:57 UTC

Nothing to admire there

2018-10-13 21:52:09 UTC

Marx apparently was a social outcast himself, and maybe was even autistic. His political theory was based upon his fucked up view of the world, because he couldnt get along with people in society

2018-10-13 21:52:13 UTC

I wish we annexed Cuba back in the 1800s

2018-10-13 21:52:32 UTC

@Rhunespire They'd be a hell of a lot better off, I can assure you

2018-10-13 21:53:06 UTC

There was serious discussion about it. We could have avoided the Cuban missile crisis

2018-10-13 21:53:16 UTC

Oh! I just thought sonething. Next time that I enconter hardcore leftie, I will say that I suport communism. The chinese conmunism. That will mess their minds ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

2018-10-13 21:53:35 UTC

@Rhunespire And it's no wonder why so many self proclaimed "communists" sound autistic in debates. And can resort to nothing other than screaming and violence. Autism, my friend

2018-10-13 21:53:39 UTC

Modern or traditional chinese communism

2018-10-13 21:54:14 UTC

I've never met a commie who can stand on two feet in a discussion about communism vs capitalism

2018-10-13 21:54:39 UTC

@KenneticEnergy Who wasn't a social outcast? It takes 2 seconds to "outcast" someone lol

2018-10-13 21:54:54 UTC

@Kazemaru Didnt Zhe or whatever the fuck his name is, declare himself president for life? lmao

2018-10-13 21:55:19 UTC

And the people forced at gunpoint to cheer and clap, it's hilarious.

2018-10-13 21:55:24 UTC

Oh you mean the current Chinese PM Winnie the Pooh?

2018-10-13 21:55:34 UTC

Yiping?

2018-10-13 21:55:44 UTC

@Rhunespire Yes hahaha, Winnie the Pooh

2018-10-13 21:55:50 UTC

Whatever the fuck his name is.

2018-10-13 21:55:55 UTC

And yet, chinese economy grows 2 dรญgits by yr

2018-10-13 21:56:01 UTC

Seriously he takes offense at being called winnie the pooh

2018-10-13 21:56:09 UTC

Straight shirt-cocking it

2018-10-13 21:56:20 UTC

@Rhunespire Its been banned in China because he was offended by the joke lol

2018-10-13 21:56:32 UTC

I wanna send him a winnie the pooh coffee mug

2018-10-13 21:56:55 UTC

Tell him he can thank capitalism for making his mug

2018-10-13 21:56:55 UTC

Oh god same thatd be hilarious

2018-10-13 21:57:01 UTC

lol

2018-10-13 21:57:25 UTC

I want God-Emperor Trump to call him winnie the pooh on national television

2018-10-13 21:57:26 UTC

I'm not sure about China as a whole, but Shenzhen is doing very well.

2018-10-13 21:57:42 UTC

Shenzhen is insanely good.

2018-10-13 21:57:48 UTC

Yup.

2018-10-13 21:57:51 UTC

Whose that

2018-10-13 21:57:56 UTC

It'll be interesting to see what happened in Asia. I think we need to let Japan build up their military again and defend themselves. Hopefully North Korea and South Korea eventually join. We also need to reduce our military bases in S. Korea. No more defending other people's shit if theyre not gonna do it themselves

2018-10-13 21:58:04 UTC

happens*

2018-10-13 21:58:09 UTC

Shenzhen is China's deregulated economic zone.

2018-10-13 21:58:15 UTC

Ohhh

2018-10-13 21:58:28 UTC

It's a hub of technology development and FUCKING BEAST.

2018-10-13 21:58:35 UTC

All your mobile phones, sex dolls, electronics, and almost everything comes from Shenzhen.

2018-10-13 21:58:50 UTC

@The Tradesman Dont kid yourself though, they're only doing it as a way to gain capitol. The government is still totalitarian

2018-10-13 21:59:00 UTC

I'm using a Xiaomi phone. Mi 6. Cheapest SD 835 phone at the time.

2018-10-13 21:59:04 UTC

Of course.

2018-10-13 21:59:07 UTC

I'm waiting for chinas economy to implode

2018-10-13 21:59:24 UTC

Honestly I dont think China will ever be free, we're talking about a people who have been slaves and fodder for thousands of years under tyrants lol

2018-10-13 21:59:44 UTC

China is like 90 percent export economy, whereas US is like 80 percent internal economy.

2018-10-13 22:00:03 UTC

If the US gets cut off from the world, no problem for them.

2018-10-13 22:00:10 UTC

Well if Apple and fucking Google would get out of China that'd be nice

2018-10-13 22:00:23 UTC

They wont, they drank the kool-aid

2018-10-13 22:00:25 UTC

I switched over to android, firefox, and PC. Fuck the tech giants

2018-10-13 22:01:10 UTC

@Rhunespire Exactly. And the apple sheeple will still pay $1k for a fucking phone, and obsolete tech because it looks cool

2018-10-13 22:01:13 UTC

@The Tradesman Are you kidding? If the US gets cut off they have no one to sell to lol

2018-10-13 22:01:17 UTC

I use LineageOS on my phone. Super clean android. AOSP. No Google on my phone.

2018-10-13 22:01:33 UTC

@machtyn US can sustain itself.

2018-10-13 22:01:51 UTC

@The Tradesman Oh, yes! I misunderstood. I thought you meant China would be fine.

2018-10-13 22:01:58 UTC

Do you guys think Trump will break up Amazon and Google with anti-trust laws?

2018-10-13 22:02:06 UTC

I fucking hope he does

2018-10-13 22:02:11 UTC

Hello, my name is professor rhunespire PhD in history. My first lesson for you class is this: THE WORLD HATES YOU AND WANTS YOU TO DIE - HORRIBLY AND AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.


Now, here's how NOT to do that, ready to learn?

2018-10-13 22:02:20 UTC

If the US cut everyone off, most industry would slow A LOT outside US because the US population is fucking obsessed with spending all their income.

2018-10-13 22:02:34 UTC

@KenneticEnergy I don't know... I am for it but also against it.

2018-10-13 22:02:49 UTC

Unlikely

2018-10-13 22:02:53 UTC

lol

2018-10-13 22:02:56 UTC

They have to be monopolies first

2018-10-13 22:03:31 UTC

welp, my life just ended

2018-10-13 22:03:35 UTC

@Rhunespire Google is basically all the information traffic in the world lol. Amazon is killing Walmart and Target. That should say something

2018-10-13 22:03:35 UTC

@The Tradesman If I could do 1 thing I'd turn the entire US population into frugal minimalists ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-10-13 22:03:40 UTC

@Sam Amari What's up man?

2018-10-13 22:03:42 UTC
2018-10-13 22:04:07 UTC

i just lost the support of my family

2018-10-13 22:04:15 UTC

and i cannot afford my medical issues alone

2018-10-13 22:04:28 UTC

@Sam Amari what happened?

2018-10-13 22:04:39 UTC

@machtyn Cut off foreign aid, especially to Israel and stop fighting their wars. End the FED.

2018-10-13 22:04:54 UTC

You don't need to make them minimalists.

2018-10-13 22:05:03 UTC

i got cut off man

2018-10-13 22:05:11 UTC

and i can't afford my medical issues alone

2018-10-13 22:05:19 UTC

@Sam Amari Damn man.. sorry to hear that

2018-10-13 22:05:20 UTC

Yeah, they will minimalize themselves @The Tradesman

2018-10-13 22:05:38 UTC

@The Tradesman True ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-10-13 22:05:47 UTC

yep. god. i really dont know what im going to do.

2018-10-13 22:05:49 UTC

@Sam Amari were you expelled from house?

2018-10-13 22:05:55 UTC

@Sam Amari Cut off from family or insurance?

2018-10-13 22:06:05 UTC

What medical issues do you have?

2018-10-13 22:06:20 UTC

Let's work out a solution and plan for @Sam Amari.

2018-10-13 22:06:26 UTC

@Sam Amari Is there literally anyone (friend, neighbor, some family) that you can go to? Anyone?

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