Pff giving life for some poon is part of the reason everything is so warped.

Dude, Cam thots make decent money.

Not all of them are broke as shit, like they can make enough money to move out and shit.

I wonder how much the chaturbate chics make

If they appear wealthy it would kinda get rid damsel in distress help me status men love to help or fix 😐

ASMR chics are makin the real dough

and they dont even have to get disowned by their families

well, maybe some families. but its more socially acceptable than porn still, probably

Asmr?

oh bro

type " ~Simple Pleasures~ ASMR Soft Spoken Personal Attention " into youtube

you will see a woman who makes a very good living off whispering into microphones. 16 mil views on that vid alone, 1.4 mil subs. gets ton in patreon donations etc

That's retarded

I used to be into JOI which is similar but it isn't just whispering

I stopped because I realized how much of a problem and a waste of time it was

well ASMR isn't supposed to be sexual

there's lots of men who do it too to be honest

Didn't know that

look up Ephemeral Rift or MassageASMR. those guys have huge subs. and they're ASMR dudes

I wouldn't do it because I wouldn't want to die knowing that I made money off of something like that

ahahahaha

like the top ones are definitely comfortable youtube content creators

Audio sensory meridian response

yep. i mean, i get the sensation. i understand not understanding it. but i literally get the sensation, so, i cant claim that ASMR is fake or something

Casuses feelings from sounds

I don't think it is

its like being able to whistle or not.

some people will go "this shit is stupid" because it literally doesnt work on them. but if it works on you, you cant really deny it

its like drinking or smoking weed too. you build a tolerance. so i dont really feel the sensation as much anymore

Well I mean it's proven that moaning makes sex more pleasurable so I believe you

yeah but to me its a separate brain region than sex. its more like the relaxation part of my brain. ive never like jacked off to an ASMR vid. id just use real porn, im 100x more turned on by a cute chic getting assfucked obviously

Lol I'm more into girls masturbating than seeing a guy fucking a girl

But I'm trying to stop porn consumption in general

meh. im down to see the dick goin in. thats porn in general. but yeah these days i just go on chaturbate. because tbh i like to fuck with the girls on there

you can totally get chics to do anything if you lie and tell them you just bought a lot of tokens for a private show

Lol

Now there is a lesson in trickery

just be like "hey, i just bought a bunch of tickets for a private show, but first i was wondering if i could see your ass. then they do it, you make a lil clip of it, and they gave you what most simps pay for"

Bob that's what I was thinking :D

Lol right right

dude its satisfying tricking thots into free thottery

Yeah man 😂 it's the memes

Never done that but it would be funny

ive gotten a chic to give me like a straight up five minute show with everything i wanted saying my name and shit for free

obviously some of them are wise to the ruse but you just move on to the next one thats dumb enough

Lol

yeah lmao. im fuckin nuts tho im sure im the only one who does this.

but damn if it isnt fun/hilarious/free porn of a chic doing what i ask

any MGTOWs ever use a Sous Vide ?

Nope not to my knowledge

it's a way to cook meat/fish. basically submerging it in water in a vacuum sealed bag over like 6 hours and letting the water cook it. it comes out better than any other method of cooking imo

Visitin Japan, heh?

Sounds good to me

But I wouldn't spend energy, time and money pursuing sex

I would like to practice the speaking, learn about their agricultural Approaches and crafsmanship

I want to go back to Japan and climb Fuji-san, hit Hakkaido for the onsen, take in some sumo matches in tokyo

I want to go to Germany

Germany sounds awesome.

I want to go to visit the holocaust sites. And see a glimpse into what the dark part of humanity holds. So not exactly a fun trip. More like a solemn pilgrimage

Just Look around RN, isn't that enough @shadowlessnexus

It's different to watch the results of societal degradation and evil while it's happenijg. Its another thing to walk in essentially the graveyard of what happened in the past

Meh.

And to link them down to the darkness in the souls of men.

DONT TRIVIALIZE MY DEEP WORDS DAMMIT

I do recognize that its sorta an uncommon thing to do. But i want to do it anyway.

That.... And make dank memes

@shadowlessnexus No I actually want to do that as well.

I also was going to visit Russia to see if they have any exhibits on Stalin.

I am not too sure about that. I only have germany planned out so far. This is far in the future. Dont have it entirely together yet

Yeah, Hitler/Stalin/Mao are my top hits but Mao’s disgusting nature won’t be exhibited by modern China lol.

Also - the rape of Nanking.

@Roughneck Riggs welcome good sir

@Roughneck Riggs Sup brah!

Yo

Yo

Eyyyy

Shadow, Zodd is Always Right.

How good is my name 😃

Scrumptious.

Hahaha'

@F*CK IDEOLOGIES While hello there!

@ZODD if you say so

@ZODD come join the cancer voice chat

@ZODD It's great

just won a duel with 3 fucking hp remaining

clearly im best at dark souls

lol

Clearly

ONE Sec Guys ,

Roujiamo

"Meat clip bun"

oh I get it tgtow xD

hello fellow in- mgtows

Greetings fellow patriarchs and MGTOW

yo

Welcome o/

Whatup @hel and @Roughneck Riggs

Has anyone seen a 3D movie on PSVR? It’s crazy. 10X better than the theater. Just watched Ready Player One last night.

No way.

Look who arrived...

....wait what?

there two different dudes? how does that work

i wish i didnt have so many damn health problems

stop wishing start fixing

unless it's something chronic

...

it is not fixable

what is it? sorry for prying i'm just curious

Anyone in the Seattle area? Careful lads.

http://www.makethemscared.com/p/the-list.html

nope

@MufflePuff lols

@MufflePuff Sad.

I'm so excited to not give a fuck about women for the next year.

Any tips for doing monk mode right?

I plan on focusing entirely on nutrition, exercise, sleep, programming, reading and blowing off steam with shooting/board games/video games.

are you starting it at some specific time

I am going to go hard in the paint!

Meditate.

Yes, I am starting now.

Any specific resources for meditation?

Oh ... no links.

I'm going extreme in my schedule (0500 wake up, meditate/stretch/yoga, hygiene, work, exercise, code, game/read/chill).

You can DM me.

@machtyn Sounds like a decent plan. I would just keep in mind that any time that you try to quit or avoid something you are picking the hard way. I find it much easier to just look at something from an overall perspective and realize that while something may have some alluring characteristics that you have decided that taken as a whole you just would rather choose differently.

@Lilu Well the only real habit I want to quit/modify is nutrition. I’m pretty solid on everything else. Once I find my “thing” I’ll go balls to the wall and master it.

Not banging for a year doesn’t seem to painful honestly.

Can I upload pictures

Ffs

I've been in monk mode since the first Clinton Administration.........the hardest part is when you "like" or "endear" for a girl you know.....and she doesn't match your values, your likes, where you are going........and you know "deep down" pursing her, or playing "game" with her is going to break your heart in the end.............or derail you......and she goes on with her life.....and those "what if" times can and do 'sting'

Sounds like you guys been together for quite a while.

Oneitis?

After becoming a Christian around the age of 40.............I quit porn (viewing) and quit "strip clubs" too. The sexual dreams came back with a force like I had in my twenties......and interestingly enough.......my creativity, my work ethic, and drive to "be better" came back too. I can't remember when.....must have been when I was leading a Boy Scout Troop.......on a camping trip somewhere in the Sierras here in California..........I just decided that "next time I decide to get involved with a girl...she's a Christian in word and deed....she isn't into "game" or "games" and she likes me for what I have and what I can do.....not an image of what she "expects" me to do.

I've been monk mode for 12 -15 years solid but on and off pretty much my whole life.

It got easier after that. Going monk is hard, and it wasn't my "choice" to. It was the hand that was "dealt" in the end, and after the "whining" I figured I had to play it the best I could. All in....balls deep. What a lucky thing indeed.

Yeah, to be honest those Christian women and actually the Christian religion is cucked now.

Overall yes Dag will agree with you

Sometimes I see women that get flirty with me and my dick wants me to do something about it but my brain knows that nothing even remotely beneficial can come from it so I just walk away.

I was never a ladies man, and I used to get so "jealous" of Chad and his ilk or guys that had this "natural" game........but at my age, I also saw them with STD's, saw them get anally raped in "family court" and their only bragging rights now are "what they WERE at 25"

For me whenever I followed through on attraction I was always disappointed. Best case scenario is that I would bust a nut and feel like it wasn't even worth the calories that I burned. But my experience is probably not normal.

Me? I'm semi-retired...freaking busy.........varried interests...some cool skills, had some cool adventures (and a few more coming up) and I am much happier now at 52 than I was at 35. Much better now

47 here and I agree my life gets better each year. All of my married friends are miserable or at least 90% of them are anyway.

Old MGTOWs? Hell yeah!

(Old is in the mind btw)

Dude.....I'm middle aged, and fully admit......I could not compete with a younger cat sexually or in looks and youth. It's a fact! Sigh.....youth is wasted on the young 😃

just kidding.....a light joke

No it's just refreshing to see older mgtows

Most I met are 18-25

As they should be!

Whats up Gents?

Mind you I'm 18 myself

There is a percentage of GenX men (mid forties to early fifties) that never married, and were MGTOW before there ever was a term.....no, we didn't "invent" this......but there was no where to go.....and for awhile in the 1990's esp....I really thought something was wrong with me

Nothing much, just cleaning up my digital space

Wbu

@Deleted User same with me. I spent most of my life thinking that there was no one else like me.

Not sure how to change my name on here. One of the mods thought they were being funny lol

hanging at home......gotta workout in a bit...older guys gotta work to keep the weight off.......losing my hair fast....but a cold day in hel;l when I am "overweight"

Bad luck. This server doesn't allow custom names : |

I think being bald is badass

Lots of guys are too scared to shave their heads off

yeah me too Lilu.....after the "rage" died down, and after I tired of the drink and drugs........and just "feeling sorry for myself" began the change and process of "okay, bad luck.....not fair.........why....why....why........so.......what do you want now??????"

@ yes sounds very familiar

At that point I began to see this MRA MGTOW thing.....and I disliked MRA because it wanted to work with women, have lobbyists, offices, and "leaders" speaking for me. No. I'll speak for myself thank you.......and MRA's seemed to be very hostile to men like myself who were professed Christians, or Muslims, or Jews

At some point someone asked me if I was MGTOW and I said " what is that? ".

So I looked it up and discovered that there were others like me

When I was a kid people used to describe me as " doing my own thing ".

lol

so when I found men " going their own way " I suddenly realized that I was born MGTOW.

The younger guys don't have it "easier" but they do have the resources up front and there. They too will have moments of despair, hurt, or feeling cheated.....it's guys like at at that point who can say "hey......you'll be okay"

*like us at that point

Lilu.....let me ask........you remember 1992. That to me.......and I was 26 at the time.......that was the year when PC culture suddenly became "normalized" and suddenly everyone started to be "offended" at anything and everything........did you notice that back then???

@hel changing names is for mods only

My job sent me and all "white men" to "diversity training" where a militant woman from HR and a "person of color" would lecture us about how easy we have it, and how our company is about teamwork (no....our company was supposed to building a high quality product, didn't matter what color you were...do you job). I also remember the term "lookism" going mainstream that year and women getting much more aggressive sexually and also at the same time, demanding men to an "acceeesory role or fixture to them"

@Roughneck Riggs I've changed your name back, Jacko you fucking Drunko.

@Deleted User I was debating No Fap/Porn but honestly I love this tenga fleshlight thing haha. No shame.

Dude

It will hold me over until I get back to having sex unless I really desire not to go back.

mach.....that's up to you 😃

@Deleted User No Fap is simply torture with no benefits. As long as you're not addicted to it, then it's okay.

Actually at least minimizing porn is beneficial

This is TMI but I watch porn for 5-10 mins whenever I do do the deed and I only do the deed once every few days (3-4 days usually).

I had fun hunting women before but now it just seems like a waste of time.

@machtyn I think that's healthy.

It can help hel......and when I was 30, I would have disagreed....but even before I became a Christian.......I was laying off it, and I did notice a difference in work, dreams, drive, ability and energy

@Deleted User Yeah, I think the beginning of every month I am going to completely abstain for a week or two.

I AM GONNA MAKE A FAPPING SCHEDULE

there's no escape

either you're pussy whipped irl or virtually

@hel I mean... not really.

@machtyn no fapping schedules! You're going to loose your mind

@Kazemaru I was kidding 😄

Now...with that said.....I am not letting myself go physically. I will not be fat. No way

@hel I don't change my behavior to accommodate women anymore so I'm not whipped. I never really was whipped. I just need visuals for 5-10 mins and I'm good unless I am actually having sex with a woman and then I last longer for obvious reasons.

Do it @Deleted User , it's never too late to get a Greek God physique

Also, keeping the monk stage is very difficult, especealy if women keeps flerting with you

Anyone read No More Mr. Nice Guy?

@hel That's my goal! I stopped going for power lifting now I just want to be ripped.

@hel It's excellent!

It's a shame the (((Allies))) tore down the statues built by Arno Breker.

Lol.....never was "adonis" but was always slender...light definition.......nor do I want to be adonis now...but I do want to stay slender, keep what's left of my hair neat and clean.........and keep my honed style up without looking "silly" (an older guy trying to act like he's 25)

They were inspired by Ancient Greece and Romans, and their cult of godly physique.

@Deleted User I'm 24... how do 25 year olds act? haha

How do 18 year olds should act?

@hel Right 😄

lol

HHH tryed to be a monk, but women just kept flerting with him, so he could not resist

Kaze, I really don't have that prblem......they don't flirt with me.....some my age do, but....er......no thanks......you have three kids, a trillion past BJ's and debt

At first it's difficult to be cold towards women when you're conditioned to be always nice

@Kazemaru I think he was monk for a reason then started seeing how women couldn't resist him. I have the same outlook. Plus, I am debating a vasectomy before I go back into having sex.

But it gets easier once you let go of your fake persona and just be yourself for yourself

Lol...what I mean is a man my age, dressing in more of the current style today to "think" or "feel" his younger. Me having a beard would really look "silly" at my age, like I was trying to fit in.

@hel Seriously.

I 'm coming out of the monk phase myself personally. HHH said that men have to decide for themselves whether they want to be celibate or not. I agree wholeheartedly

Youtube -"Hi, My name is Carla Shaw"

Smashing is one thing, signing a legal document or shacking up with a girl and getting fucked in court over common law is another

@KenneticEnergy I've had sex with a few women but I need to be celibate to focus on myself the next year 😄

I will never have kids, get married or cohabitate.

@machtyn Good on you

Smashing can still get you in trouble....a nasty STD........she "lied" about being "safe" or suddenly, a few years later smears your name by the whole "he raped me"

@Deleted User That is why I would get a vasectomy if I do re-enter the sexual marketplace.

I am never protected against "he raped me."

Man, the SMP is a mess nowadays.

I am protected against "He got me preggo."

@Deleted User True.. but I think it's up to each gentleman to decide for himself whether the pleasure is worth the risk or not. There are some rules you can follow to try and keep yourself out of hot water

Dont take her to your place, for one thing.

Using an alias can help too

Last time I had sex was 1996 or thereabouts....was blasted high on cocaine......was more upset afterward that I wasted the cocain on sex instead of just partying longer

Holy shit

That's lying Kennetic, and I don't do that anymore........but I'll let a man decide what he wants and what is worth the risk to him, and let him have those choice 😃

Alias - Patrick Bateman 😂 😂 😂 😂

@Deleted User I agree, MGTOW is all about every man deciding and going his own way. I mean I'm not a sexual fiend like 50 Shades, but every once in awhile I don't mind partaking in a good romp

@KenneticEnergy Yeah, I always did it at their place. I also used an alias 😄

I'm also only in my mid 20s too lol\

No hate Kennetic. It's cool

I just honestly don't want to risk anything and want to focus on my own development for the next year at least.

Yo, anyone had their T levels checked out?

I got a few courses I want to take (even though I have my BS already) and get more skilled in my craft.

@machtyn That's what I'm doing right now, focusing on school and getting into my career

brb

@hel I am conducting a water fast and after I eat for 2 weeks on the keto regiment I'm getting mine checked (next month or so).

@KenneticEnergy Yeah boy!

@hel T levels go down naturally as we age, but I dont think its a concern unless you start having abnormal symptoms.. def something to talk to your doc about

IF+Keto is the boss of cutting

Mine is around 350ng/dL

The doctor said it's fine, but I'unno