not competitive fighting

I'm not sure about the west but in Asia the martial arts are bullshit

All the gay poses

minimal rules anything goes within reason and with some level of safety involved

It's too safe for martial arts in Asia

Forms are cool, i enjoyed them. Those don't teach you how to fight

Unfortunately

You don't learn how to punch properly by doing some dance fighting shit

or poses

@Sigma yes boxing is the best for fundamentals

the blocking system doesn't work, and those 500 techniques you need to learn aren't gonna work if you try it in a real scenero

@Sigma I have had friends who I showed nothing more than how to incorporate their hips and throw their weight behind punches and they became much better street fighters for it

not to mention, it can take about 2-3 years for a black belt...that's too short and they focus too heavily on forms, and shit

not enough sparring

I believe it

Footwork, head movement, slipping parrying

hip rotation, pivot the foot

Footwork especially

It can determine so much

yea dude, you gotta fuckin move when fighting

Hell, they don't even focus on your stamina

MY footwork sucks tbh

Or strength

@Sigma and just the pivoting and shifting weight

I'm talking things like stepping in and out, creating angles

i have trouble creating angles

I tend to go in there and brawl a bit

@Unknowncrash that's the thing if you swing your hips into your punch and use your whole weight you can throw a punch harder than someone much stronger than you who uses only arm strength

@Sigma yes that is better classified as footwork

I'm heavier than I want to be, so I'm not that agile anymroe

@Reaper of course I know that shit, I do that to others ever since I was a child

I'm heavy on my feet

But strength traing helps

A fucking lot

@Unknowncrash yaya

yea i want to drop down to 155 again

I'm about 170-175 atm

i'm still pretty light on my feet and graceful but i can't fight for shit. Mostly just inexperienced.

I don't take punches too well

If someone is throw a ton of punches and hitting me I tend to panic

The voice chats been a bit quiet lately hasn't it

takes me a while to warm up

@GingerSnaps it's a good idea to learn the basics

@4sakenm3ssiah i haven't been paying attention but i know i haven't been in there in a short.

@Reaper yeah, all this talk of boxing is making me think i should start there.

Boxing is a great place to start

and the Muy Thai leg kicks are easy to learn, plus they do a lot of damage

@GingerSnaps I am a huge advocate at starting with boxing cause you will learn practical knowledge day 1

I want to do boxing again

There's a really friendly and tolerant aikido academy in my area though so i was going to go with them. But i could liekly find the same thing in a boxing gym.

Boxing is quite common in the states, no?

I don't think aikido is that practical

it's common

we also have a lot of mcdojos too

@GingerSnaps if you want to do aikido do it, most boxing gyms are monthly, go to one for a month or two then switch

Martial arts in the 70s-80s used to be good, now it's about business and making money

student retention

easy black belts

when I did kempo there were some black belts I had no problem with when sparring I was a blue belt at the time

I've been knocked out by a roundhouse kick going too intensely with my instuctor once

I dropped my hand and he snuck in a roundhouse kick to my head

@Sigma @Reaper thanks for the pointers guys. Yeah i think that's a big reason why this aikido dojo is so tolerant of people, they realize being open to one and all is a great business model. I've heard a lot of smaller and private dojos are draconian even and expect 100% seriousness and dedication. I have a shitty attitude when pushed too hard much to the detriment of my personal development.

mcdojos

just do grappling, honestly

most fights end up on the ground anyway

Grapping is good, I recommend that too

Wrestlers are hard to take down, so bonus points if you do wrestling and grapping

But ideally you want to stay standing

@GingerSnaps yes a fight gym is a personal thing if it doesn't match your personality it won't work

You choking out a guy on the streets, then his friends step in and start stomping out out

you out*

@GingerSnaps akido is good cause it just gives you the good foundation on taking punches and shit. You'll be fine with doing that and other stuff. It's merely how you take momentum from your opponent and handling your own

1v1 grapping is op tho

don't bother with akido

judo, greco roman, and jitsu

all you really need

akido is great against other people doing akido, but that's about it

@GingerSnaps boxing is also great for weight loss and getting you in overall better shape for training

If you want to learn as much as possible in shorter time, you can do very well with just grapping and Muy Thai. Boxing is great too. Muy Thai is also a good striking art

I like wrestling, Boxing, a little bit of kicking, and some BJJ

@Reaper i don't really have a problem with weight loss. If anything i need to bulk up a little more. But i'm happy where i'm at at 180-185 and almost 6 foot. I just want more muscle mass and definition.

those are all things i've done...didn't find much use for Kempo

whatever works for you

in my adult life i have never had to throw a punch to end an altercation, most have been settled after i head and arm throw somebody.

@GingerSnaps ok well I don't think any martial arts will get you that but you sound like you are a good frame to start training

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I never had to fight anyone before either

Adults just take verbal jabs at you

@°°° if given only to pick one, which is the best one to learn

and shit test you

if you're living near the inner city, probably a good idea to know some shit or at least have some weapon on you

just in case

@Reaper i'm doing weight training for my arms and i have yet to start a squat routine for my legs and butt but i'll get there. Also want to start incorporating push ups and planks into my routine again. that's a good all around exercise.

and Lifting alone and looking big makes you a harder target too

@Unknowncrash grappling

@°°° like martial arts, which type I mean

Yeah I agree on grappling

If you're 6ft tall and you lift, not many people are gonna fuck with you

@GingerSnaps yea you can't go wrong with push ups, chin up are good for your whole upper body too

and if you want to learn fighting, all the better

You'd ruin people

@Unknowncrash greco roman wrestling or jiujitsu

Both really

If you have the time for it

@°°° @Unknowncrash yeah i can see that. A good throw will knock the wind out of your opponent and that gives you all the time you need to scramble out of there. @Reaper yeah that will be my next exercise equipment purchase a mountable lift bar for my door way to do pull ups and shit.

Thanks

do one for a bit, then learn submissions

I know a few guys who did both wrestling and BJJ

they compliment each other well

@GingerSnaps @Unknowncrash you can watch countless "streetfighting" videos on youtube, after one person fails to knockout the other, they always end up in a sloppy tie up, that's where grappling prevails:
https://youtu.be/3MdAGqQi96I

@GingerSnaps there is a pretty cheap set of push up bars you can buy called perfect push ups, they are super useful too

@Reaper i've heard that. My one buddy has them.

Don't most people who run into trouble on the streets have to deal with at least 2-3 people at the same time?

Good stuff

or more

that rarely happens

and if it does, generally you see it coming, just leave

@GingerSnaps I like them cause you can simulate twisting your wrist like you would with a punch as you lift yourself

i've seen them in action before. My biggest problem right now is motivation. I have almost no motivation for anything. I just sit on youtube and either soak up red pill stuff or auto mechanic stuff.

@GingerSnaps I'd say find some gym and go no matter how much you have to force yourself

that's what i need to do

and I love working out

But getting to the gym can be hard to do for me

@Sigma that's probably a good idea. Usually when i have to pay for something i'm motivated to get my money's worth.

@Sigma yeah i was never a physically active person. Probably a big reason why i washed out of the military.

@GingerSnaps I love mechanic shit too

@GingerSnaps i couldn't even pass tape or fitness

so at least you got in

:/

Home isn't really a good place to work out. It's doable, but for me I have a mental association of home for crashing and have free time

@Sigma like i can't honestly say that i enjoy working out. I like doing it high though, it enhances the work out and enhances my high. Yeah that makes sense. Maybe that's my problem as well.

A home gym in the basement could be a good way to go if you're able to do it

physically going somewhere to do shit is better, just gotta pay fees

@Reaper I enjoy it, but i'm mostly studying to give me a leg up for when i start school since i'm going for auto mechanics.

after a while of being consistent in the gym, you start to love it

sometimes you can be obsessed with making gains

It takes at least 2-3 months to really start to enjoy it

@GingerSnaps nice, when do you start?

have fun eating unseasoned chicken and broccoli

especially if you're on a good program

D:

i'll look into a gym membership. My area has a ton of fitness businesses. @Reaper if everything goes right fall 2019 semester.

just starting out with the gym is a challenge at first, but it's really a habit building process

@GingerSnaps nice, good luck man

real talk though, wear a rash guard and wipe everything down before and after you use it though

i've seen too many people get ringworm from gyms

shit is nasty

fuck man yeah

ringworm sucks

@Reaper thanks mate.

On a side note why do ppl hate on batman begins? sure it's not as good as the dark Knight, but it's way better than the dark Knight rises, and a great batman movie overall

That's a good point. Christian bale made a great batman.

@GingerSnaps lol batman is a reluctant mgtow

A really close match up if you ask me between him and michael keaton

@Reaper i can see that i suppose.

W @GingerSnaps I grew up with the Keaton batman's, I used to wear out the vcr with those 2

my favorite batman is mask of the pantasm, so what the fuck do i know

:/

@Reaper yeah my money is on keaton. but like i said bale did a great job.

@°°° bro I just watched that this afternoon fucking classic

@°°° that's actually what had me thinking about batman

@Reaper it's so fucking underrated

@°°° the cartoon was good too. definitely belongs in the halls of batman fame.

^

and batman beyond was actually REALLY sick

@°°° that whole batman the animated series/beyond run was legendary

yup, but now it's shit

i tried watching the new batman and i don't even recognize it

lol

the new animated batman, that is

Ahh i think i'm going to try to take a snooze. i have a phone call to make in like 5 hours. lol

Yea I find it hard to give new stuff a chance, I feel like it's more interesting looking back at stuff cause even if it sucks I can kind of analyze why I might have liked it before

@GingerSnaps rest well dude

@GingerSnaps take it easy

i doubt i will rest much but thanks guys

Thanks bro u too

@Reaper be good

I don't know why but i got Over There by George Cohan stuck in my head

I think im ganna blast the earrape version next time i play civ as the US

omfg...I'm crying from laughing rn

Yoo, can I share a youtube video somewhere?

You guys gotta see this

I think it should fine

@Sigma post it in shitposting, please

I don't have that permission

Shit posting and tag

Dm me the link

It's posted in shitposting rn

There's one in every town

Sorry I was gaming what are you referencing

?

What's in every town?

It's a stand up bit, it's posted in shitposting

youtube video

Jordan Petersons 12 step program involves walking with broad shoulders and straight spine... But fuck he's a funny cunt he's either paro or generally enjoys what he does coz he had to retain he's own laughter which comedians don't always do

I didn't realize he was a comedian.

I didn't know he was a comedian

He has powerful points, he thinks alot like me which is why I agree with his knowledge and wisdom.

There's probably only a few things that is questionable.

How are my MGTOW doing?

I'm good. I'm making a cottage pie from costco.

I hope it's good.

welcome back

They let me home early, normally I get home at 12-1am.

Everything is fucked up bc of reasons and vagina

Funny I found this on YouTube
"STORYTIME: My dad found me on P***HUB (PSA TO ALL GIRLS)"

So

YO

link that video lmao @Solitary Onely

All women are whores

Women are only loyal to the extent of their options

All sluts

The different between bitch and hoe = a slut will fuck everyone. A bitch will fuck everyone but YOU

If she breathe... ALL WOMEN ARE QUEENS... she a thot

@Roxgor heresy! As the Lord Jesus said: "If she breathes, she's a thot"

Ah, the patriarchs of old

@shango womenare not loyal only to the extent of their options, but also due to the extent of the immediate consequences she may suffer as a result

Yes

in a society with no immediate consequences, it only further incentivizes this rampant degeneracy

It’s deeply ingrained in they brain

Promiscuity, in fact, is essential for a strong gene pool

it's how we evolved

You don’t want a slew of betabux weakling genes in yo gene pool

but it is the death of society as we know it

Women will change; wether they like it or not. Now the he only question is WHEN.

You want chad’s broke ass but biologically viable genes

you can't have a stable society where men do not have some meaningful control over the females

@Psychedelic Corpse Fucker what do you mean change

He means

When the men stop being cucks

Women must stop thotting

this ends when men end it

feminism is just a giant shit test

But women are queens

It is

And men enable it

the problem is eliminating the state institutions that have the force and authority to end you

But Eugen

Isn’t war the only way to end it

TFM for President!!!!

As in they will learn that their promiscuous ways will no long be tolerated and frowned upon.

Because in a war, feminism takes a giant back seat

REPEAL THE 19TH

Repeal the 19th *by force*

It would have to be

This will become more apparent as technology advances, and they see that men will have other ways to release their primal urges. I.e. Sexbot's.

True

I talk about it all the time

the second replika can have sexualized interactions with the user

Sex bots will humanity up