As for the "external validation" bits, if a man wants to seek higher earning potentials, yet has to be validated via the other, then he must internalize an idea of how the other thinks about him in order to achieve his own success. That is simply another contradiction. You claim that MGTOW liberated men from "external validation", yet in order to even participate in a social system to afford to pay rent, buy clothes, food, etc. a man must seek validation from his employer.

As I said, please seek your local road whore and get married. All your questions shall be answered in time

As soon as a man thinks "I hope my boss will give me that raise", his claim of freedom from external validation is forfeit.

You're monologuing dude

@Longshanks Marrying a woman is totally non-sequitur to what I am talking about. My point is that even when a man rejects to get married, his freedom is still denied. He is simply drawing attention from one set of chains to another...

@Longshanks Good. A Well thought out response is often times lengthy.

No... you're asking rhetorical questions. Then answering them yourself. You're not discoursing, your making a speech

What is the criterion that can be offered to demarcate between a discourse that is simply lengthy vs one that is simply a speech, as you have suggested?

MGTOW is an idea, and no man "liberates" another. Only a man can liberate himself. And I'm not talking about "Universal freedom" for there is no such thing. Clearly the context of MGTOW is female nature. Since culture and industry use female nature as shackles, understanding and navigating her nature is very advantageous for a man

So MGTOW, in your opinion, is simply men protecting themselves from gynocentrism?

All I'm saying is you have to allow the other side to respond to your prepositions (because they are based on a premise)

holy shit Itachi is getting straight up roasted in HHH's recent video with him comments

???

Yes MGTOW is a philisophy for understanding gynocentrism

Perhaps an understanding of MGTOW as only being a way to understand gynocentrism is simply necessary for defining MGTOW, but not sufficient. For example, there is the whole malaise, if you will that comes along after taking the "red-pill".

This malaise, includes opportunities for self-actualization, freedom and self-responsibility, and even as you suggested, some sort of financial advantage from taking the "red-pill".

Gynocentrism defines the existential purpose of most men, whether they are aware of it or not

lol

does anyone know Itachi? or are you mid convo

Itachi is an idiot

Lotta PUAs, pseudointellectuals and attention seekers are drawn to MGTOW.. @Silveru

Females also troll as men

Quite pathetic but I suppose the day will come when MGTOW will become a platform for picking up bitches

Lol

TFM made a video of how spaces are colonized by bitches, who then attract the pussy beggers

@Seven Of Swords After the malaise begins the journey of actually living a life

Are you married? @Seven Of Swords

Of course I'm not fucking married. Marriage is a dogshit deal. As for the supposed journey living of an actual life after the maiase, that remains to be seen. For to reject one set of chains and accept another is not freedom.

What you mean another set of chains?

Are you anarchist/Communist?

Succumbing and actually defending our current system of wage slavery.

You can call me whatever you want, but it doesn't matter.

I didn't make a preposition, I asked a question

I have no idea what to call myself really. The left is too gynocentric so those labels are out.

The right has too many reactionary and fascist shit heads, so that's out as well.

In that case your statement "reject one set of chains for another" is ambiguous

What are the other set of chains you refer to?

The requirement to trade value for what you need/want?

Because if you're unwilling to trade for what you want what other system remains, other than anarchy or Communism

And anarchy is very short lived, voids don't last for long

Also...are you suggesting that "the chains of marriage" is how a man "pays his due" to society? That's the slant religions take, which are a kind of Communism IMO

@Seven Of Swords it's in our nature to be corrupt, that's why there is sin and there is forgiveness

"Corruption" is kinda an ambiguous way to put it, there is just human nature

I.e. people tend to be lazy, they love fantasy, are uncomfortable with introspection, etc etc

Well yeah, we live in a world that is filled with sin

@Seven Of Swords you need to chill man, Expression is one thing, but getting upset just leads to further anguish.

@ZODD Anguish follows the disturbed and eventually the apathetic...

(lol) logic : I'm not mgtow , but I'm gonna express my views to mgtow to see if they agree with me, and if not I'm just gonna keep going. (That's Logic For ya Folks) #self verification theory at it's finest 👌

@Seven Of Swords is a troll you guys fed him for a long time

@Little_Bob_69 Sin doesn't seem to be the answer... for all saints are sinful.

@Happy Humble Hermit yea but we get to watch his autism tho

its like a movie

or whatever

@Seven Of Swords It doesnt appeal to me that you have any methodology to get through life. Providing criticism without solution is not very usefull. Maybe you really should take the local roadwhore advice and see how far it gets you.

Since it wouldn't kill me to ask: I can't see the MGTOW logo on the new shirt. Is it the pattern in which one grass field cuts across the other?

Would someone care to crop and post the exact area and tag me to see it?

Many men cannot bring themselves to be indentured servants to a corrupt system. The majority do not go postal, but rather commit 'slow suicide' via destitution and drugs.

Unsurprisingly this is the same demographic that wouldn't stand for 'black box' accounting or foreign wars if they weren't knee-capped by the self-same system.

It's all social-engineering.

The thing is even if the system our western system is corrupt, you can go an easy path suited for you if you have devotion and take of your shekels to obligations like women. With that said, the bitterness i still feel for sometimes can be hard.
Yesterday my dog was already weak and i realized he will day in a few days. I dont know why but it kicked up feelings for my ex and now i have to mend again. The mental prison of monogamous servitude-expectations really have driven me crazy

For me it is the shekels of "The more you put in, the more you get in the end". That is simply not true for our society, especially regarding women.

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@Mysteriedingens Yeah, its definitely not a meritocracy.

@Mysteriedingens What happens when all methodologies are dogshit? Why not reject them all because they all have flaws? And as for the fucking whores suggestion, are you talking from experience or are you just saying that because supposedly its one of the great MGTOW nuggets of wisdom supposed to be taken in order to prove something?

@Flushtater Hmm... I think it depends on what we consider as mental illness.

@Flushtater Oh I get it now, the stonepaths are what make up the symbol. I was staring at the grass meadow. 😁

Hmmm.... the hard thing about proving if someone is deluded or not is that one would have to know what reality is... and how can anyone know what reality is if no one can prove that reality is how they say it is?

As much as I love Blade Runner, I even think that his own work actually challenges that definition.

For example, Blade Runner constantly challenges views of reality and epistemic theories that attempt to define knowledge. "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away" still isn't adequate enough to capture what reality is because in Blade Runner the character's view of what is "real" even when looked at with regard to memory is constantly proven as not the case, even when Dekard or Officer K don't take the time to believe in what they supposedly remember.

Do we? What happens if no one can agree on what the best definition of "reality" is?

What happens when no one can prove that anyone is more deluded than another?

@Seven Of Swords You can decide that no methodology of this world suits you, but then you might aswell kill yourself, because you are at the wrong place. You are under 25 which puts you in the section of young man. what did you do with your life yet? Sit in your room and avoid all things, because you think they are all shit? Thats sociopathic. Get out there and shape the world around you like you need it like a man should.

Has Anyone Recently Experienced the Automatic Text Messages response on Andriod or iOS? It kinda freaks me out

Everyone I had a dream where sum thot was trying to kiss me and I woke up almost punching my wall I couldn't move in the dream I was wondering is it subconsciously associating women as bad or is it something else

Something else -spicy food??

Is there a judge kavanaugh chat ??

@monk of migtao weirdo lol

I just saw the new predator movie. I'm conflicted because i enjoyed it and it was funny but idk if it made for a good predator movie. And there's 2 really dumb things that should have ruined it but it didn't which is weird

Lmmmaaoo I just got banned from a MGTOW discord

What did you type?

@Seven Of Swords doesn't matter, St. Saul persecuted and killed christians

@Little_Bob_69 St. Augustine stole fruit from his neighbor's yard simply because he wanted to...am I to accept that this is sin? Killing Christians or not?

My main point is that simply claiming that we are corrupt and sinful isn't a good enough assessment of the situation... for not even saints nor the sinful can understand how sin works and what sin is, this its not an adequate description.

@ZODD I just sent a photo of the YouTube comment that I posted on <#483745061712953355> channel, and I just get kicked/banned on the spot XD

I kinda expected laughs, but instead the hammer

It's a dead chat anyways, it's inactive with around 100 people

I might have to ban you For that too

It's quiet.

@Seven Of Swords sin is just the act of doing something morally wrong

Corruption is in our nature, you can't deny that

We see it throughout history, it's too obvious

we need some tomb raider booty in the anime babes channel

LOL

you talk a lot of nebulous shit @Seven Of Swords

you don't quite say anything, but say a lot. Like a woman

@Little_Bob_69 The term "morally wrong" is ambiguous and not defined well. As for your view on history, it still remains to be seen for as to how human nature is just because of the deeds of the bygone. I don't view corruption as apart of our nature anymore than benevolence, so to suggest either of those as being the necessary and sufficient condition for human behavior is as I've said before, not holding up to enough consideration and scrutiny.

@Longshanks Yet here you are still responding to me... claiming that I don't say much then only reach to insult... now that is womanly.

I asked you questions about what you said, no response from you. You take this stance as if you know something the average person in this channel doesn't. Yet don't really explicate on anything. Even when directly and clearly questioned

That's what bitches and socialists do

Ideological subversion

Just saying, observation

Don't. Feed. The. Trolls.

You can identify them by their drivel

So What did We Learn Today My Brothers?

That @Seven Of Swords is a female

Carrying on

anyone Else??

Lol just read HHH's comment on @Seven Of Swords . Indeed it is a troll

God damn

This server needs a Thot Patrol, 8 hour rotation

Listen, Alright , Were not here Shit on Each other , We get enough of that When we decide to Commute to the blue pill world etc etc. If someone has an Unpopular opinion , Just Laugh it off and Continue your Independent Studies/ and Current Goals/ Self Improvement.

Im not Here to Play Substitute Teacher, Im here to Post Hentai. ( its Very Important )

Hey guys, I'm new here, just wondering what kind of stuff people do besides chat. Are there any late night gaming sessions and whatnot?

Theres no Gaming Text Channels, Probably Due to Not letting anyone dox them self,
When Hermit Streams We Sometimes have a Round Table Going. ( Which is Group VC)

you can join one of the voice channels and game with some people

rewatching cowboy bebop as an adult is a mindfuck.

jesus.

Cowboy Bebop is GOod, But i wanted more epilogue

they're have been talks of a sequel soon.

LoL, thats just wishful Thinking, the director would never come back for that

that's the thing, watanabe was interviewed and he's expressed interest, just funding/budget is the main problem

LOL that guy is Always Broke AF, he never funds his own projects

yeah and unfortunately he NEVER works on anything that really makes money off of merchandise...

#metoo McDonald's and Cody wilson...

Dammit Cody why did you visit Taiwan.

@Seven Of Swords so what you mean to tell me is that you think that we aren't corrupt and that in the future we might not create the same mistakes?

@Little_Bob_69 To confuse the making of mistakes with being corrupt is a folly. One cannot be corrupt and make mistakes because being corrupt is intentional, whilst making a mistake is not...

As for the future, who knows. Remember, no one's predictions of the future ever happen, the present is never whole and the past becomes erased.

Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

I like Assassin's Creed lol

im working on a new video, if you have any good pics of women hitting the wall post em in dank memes

can you give me rights, i have a fucking great picture

@Happy Humble Hermit Hitting the Wall and Trying to Jump the Wall ( Political Memes) HAHAHA

🥓🥓

Guys...one of tfms tweets is getting viral. Prepare for a wave of incoming sjws!

LOL!

Does Tfm Want the Expose Tho??

Plus if TFM gets Shutdown, What Does that even Mean??

He's staying low for now. Don't want to deal with drama that isn't related to mgtow.

@ZODD if he want the exposure, I dont know. But he will know what to do and find a way to take advantage

is there anyone else here who makes youtube videos

Nope, but I'm going to in the future.

@Kazemaru which tweet? was it the captain marvel one?

new video is rendering

I used to make videos, but not on mgtow

@Happy Humble Hermit yep, the Brie Larson thing

Keep eyes open on the net now

And for the new arrivals here

@Kazemaru thanks for the heads up

@Seven Of Swords well I'm not saying that we should stop trying not to repeat our past historical mistakes

@Little_Bob_69 Ok...

I couldn't upload the definition

But its synonym was wrong duing and that's what sin is

@Little_Bob_69 And like I've said before "wrong doing" is a vague and ill-defined concept. Sin needs to be better thought of that just saying that certain actions are wrong without further argument...

new vid is up

need a twitter bot that can post announcments into the server

jennifer love hewitt hit the wall HARD.

@Seven Of Swords but do you at least agree that history has been repeated and most likely will be again?

@Little_Bob_69 Hmm.... great question. It remains to be seen if history will repeat indefinitely into the "future" with actors taking up the same actions as those that have come before. I do not think that you are going about it the most logically rigorous way because to assume that things in the future will be like how they were in the past, based upon nothing more than the past is a circular argument. Look into the Problem of Induction.

We also need to consider if history is best understood as an object separate from those that study it and is thus unable to be changed by those that participate, or that history is nothing but the entirety of the actors and thus cannot be unchangeable.

We also need to consider if history is predominately to be told in line with a narrative of central actors (the "Great Man" theory of history) vs the idea that history can only be considered in relation to a means of production in which the consciousness of people and their social relations determine the outcomes of what is historical (Historical Materialism).

Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

Damn, He got His Own Role Now

@ZODD Join the club lol

Do any of you guys play on ps4? When fallout 76 and red dead 2 come out I need people to play with lol

@ThaneCruelfist depending on what the online is like for red dead 2 i might buy ps plus and make a posse. if it's like gta v online i'll pass tho which would suck because i put over a month of gametime in to red dead online

Yeah if it's completely dependent on in game purchases I probably won't be playing much either tbh. The original red dead online was incredible though. I wish the servers were still populated.

k

@Silveru thanks man

i just pirated and watched Solo and i liked it more than rogue one.... i think im in the minority with that

i don't know why they made the solo movie, took away from his character, imo.

Think about it like this. The robot does all the piloting. ***Han has no piloting skills***

they made lando a fucking shit character in that movie.

Just stopping by to say hello Brothers. Hope all is well.

GREAT!

Today a big intelectual german newspaper released an article with critical hints against feminism

finally XDD

LOL!

translated quote "Mens and Womens personalities differ more with higher equality in a country.
This makes it seem that in terms of equality there was not a huge progress made meanwhile. In job-areas with mostly men women are seen as slowed down in their self-actualisation. But recent studies show otherwise. Maybe it is needed to endorse the differences between and women"

It's a bloody start.

You can't make women and man equal

Because we are fundamntaly diffrent

Soo Feminisem was doomed from the beginnig

You're preaching the choir, people here already know that lol

Just refrashing it 😃

In my country they decided to build a feminist exclusive school

can you reference me a link for that in pm?

It's in Hebrew

@Seven Of Swords no liste, Im not saying that we should stop trying to change the outcome of the future, all Im saying is that history is a thing that has repeated itself, you see, its like a scientific experiment, you are measuring the speed of something falls, you gather enough variables and you do the average, this is what I am doing but with history, you see a similar trend therefore make your conclusion based on the results.

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Wall undefeated

Meme plz

Hi

I'm actually not a thot

I support mgtow and HHH's channel

I don't wish drama or harm on anyone here

I'm trans

Oh there is a woman get the pitch forks! <:blobjoy:408640405303853064>

lol

The feminist invasion has begun

Yup

^---- evidence #1 on file o , o

I've been following HHH's content for the past couple of months

He has some real good stuff

And you as a women agree with what he says?

yes

why would I be here if I disagreed?

well there are those people that have to tell people that they are wrong :D

I've been following MGTOW content since 2016. Stardusk, TFM, Hammer Hand, Replicant Fish, Sunrise Hoodie, HHH, Solitary Wolf, Bar Bar, Spetsnaz

Sometimes I don't know what you women think

wanna chat in vc?

general?

The beginning of bitches #metoo'ing bitches?
https://mobile.eurweb.com/2018/09/beyonces-former-drummer-claims-singer-molested-her-killed-cat-using-extreme-witchcraft/

The beginning of bitches #metoo'ing bitches?
https://mobile.eurweb.com/2018/09/beyonces-former-drummer-claims-singer-molested-her-killed-cat-using-extreme-witchcraft/

As predicted by Marcus last year

is pewdiepie a beta male?

youtube celebrity. Not an actual member here. (Unless he has an alias here)

and....eh, he switches here and there.....

then again..... he needs to play nice for that youtube money so....

@Little_Bob_69 One problem with your analogy is that history is not a scientific enterprise... it is political, social, economic and riddled with bias... unless you are willing to say that science incorporates all of those things as well lol. But appeal to science is not good enough a standard to guarantee an understanding that things in past will be in the future... because of like I've said, the Problem of Induction.

@everyone I finally got a job that can pay rent my dudes. I start next week and will be making enough to eventually get a sex doll and have some "fuck you" money.

@Flushtater CELLS

Remember lads, times are often the most optimistic before the next great tragedy.

Pick your battles

Count your blessings

Pray for Plagues

hey everyone, i figured out how to put all of the merch on to one page. i also added some posters and phone cases: https://represent.com/store/happy-humble-hermit

@Seven Of Swords fair enough, you said what I was about to say

@Little_Bob_69 Alright.

Nice merch.

I'd buy, but shipping to Aus makes it not worth. Hope you make good sales, Hermit.

Oh dear can we ban her

xd

Oh it's a tranny

So a man then

Does anyone Here Read manga ?

Sometimes