Could well reflect their moral state. The assertion from Hamlet "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so" resonates with me but certainly not some who think there is a metaphysical moral fabric.

Interesting... so, is it wrong to believe that gender is only constructed?

For sure though, you have your own value system and matching your moral framework to that and actually acting in accordance with it will give you a peace of sorts. Part of going your own way isn't it? I feel paying 10k for an engagement ring to throw on a woman's hand for the purpose of gloating and status is nonsensical and immoral, so doing such a thing for conformity's sake will tear at my own constructed moral fabric.

I don't believe in moral theories or values. And I don't find simply caring for others to be sufficient enough to guarantee a moral framework... I have come to abandon value belief systems. They all fail.

Ergo the question, do we have moral knowledge?

Maybe you agree with Shakespeare? "Nothing either good or bad" ...but...Some have "moral knowledge" of what is right and wrong in their own realm, "thinking makes it so."

You probably have some sense of what is moral to yourself, but you can also end up feeling like shit living in a way not befitting your own (unrealized) moral sense. It is possible to develop a moral knowledge that fits your understanding of the world and to some extent influences your behaviour. Some of us are less certain of our righteousness, while some have no problem chopping off heads for videos in accordance with their own moral superiority.

All of those would imply that those people would have moral knowledge of some sort, but how do they know that exactly?

How does anyone know if raping someone is worse than donating to charity?

Hello

They do not. They may only know that their moral sensibilities align with their values.

Vc one time

But how does one know what one's values are?

Asking ones self

How many times and what if one values one thing at one moment only to abandon it the next?

Experience only, I'd say. Sadly, some receive it from others in the form of religion/politics/"mommy said so"/friends/conformity/TV commercials.

Voice chat

You only have the moment

Rabbit hole discussion. :)

What if someone values raping children?

Your values will change throughout your life.

You should focus on the moment only

Not what one should or would become later

@BlaqShiep Which moment? The one now or later?

If one values raping children they will be shunned by all

Now is the only moment

So what if people shun them? Why should they care?

You are over complicating now

Who cares what they experience... What do YOU value?

That is what is important

Not sure...

That is for you to find out

I'm not even sure if value is a thing that can be understood...

Here's a thought though--how many of us valued pussy. But come kenjataimu...as sure as the sun.

Dont over generalize an objective thing of value what we value is inherently subjective

I never valued "pussy"

I did value women...

Instinctually i assume...

And now you do not.. at that moment you valued women, and in this one, you do not... So which moment is supposed to be the one of value?

At the moment i did... That was that version of myself

I know who he was and i do not fault him

So, is there one self, many or none?

Who i am now... I must proceed in the correct fashion or i am blasphemous to my own valuss

There is one moment

If you cannot find a fault with that self, why change him?

Disregard self... Focus on now

The moment

But you just admitted that you needed a self in order to be in a particular moment...

I feel you BlaqShiep...but once a nut was had, have you never questioned your "values" beforehand? Felt ashamed of tolerating a conversation where your woman denigrates a coworker for shoe choice, or quickly closed a porn tab after finishing only to suddenly wish you hadn't spent so much time on it and quickly went back to doing something more rewarding?

In that Moment there was no fault... To behave like him now... Is a fault

Of course i have

values are dynamic, at least I fear so...

But you just said that there is but only one moment? How can you suggest that a self at one moment is bad after this one, yet all moments are one?

But you answer your own question

I felt shame

Therefore there must be correction

Its really that simple

So, shame determines which self is correct?

When there is no shame... Thete is no need to correct

One factor yes

Shame is a motivator

What about a woman's shame?

Fuck her

What about YOU... This MGTOW

Not how can we change her

How do you adapt?

What do YOU do?

So... do you pick and choose which shame is worth change and which is not?

Explain

Seven of Swords -- that's the fucked up thing isn't it? Shame comes AFTER -- for it to determine something....that's a curse, you'd never realize till after you betrayed your own standards eh?

Haha yeah boss

So, you have to betray your own standards in order to know them?

Life is a cruel teacher... Gives you the test first then the lesson

Seven

maybe you do -- it is trial and learn reality, language, shame, morals, values, etc.

You are over intellectualizing

Who are you now

How much ought I intellectualize?

There is no generalization that must be made

You are trying to come up with a steady philosophy... There is only now

If you feel shame... Seek to avoid shame

If you deel strong and triumphant then...

Seven -- just try out living in accordance with your own sensibilities. We cannot answer for you. You must live your own way.

Yet you couldn't distinguish which "now" is more worth the time than others... so why should "now" matter?

Its self evident, but not easy

Lets voice chat

There is not different nows

Only NOW

Who i was when i was 16... That now is not NOW

You are complicating the uncomplicated

I got confused reading this.

it's a bit too abstract

Idk about abstract but its paradoxical... We want to generalize and categorize to simplify... But its an ongoing process

So it should evolve

We are not all knowing

We discover

I'll be in voice chat if anyone wants to hang

give me a few minutes.

Im there

This could be interesting

Trades and boss come

can't believe im actually excited for the new call of duty, the battle royale looks pretty cool im a big fan of pubg

@BlaqShiep @Seven Of Swords @The Tradesman Mind if i join....

join my dude

i played it. meh. not for me

My you I have a tendency to speak outside the box...

alright

@BrainDeadSheepp https://gph.is/2cOg0VB

lol

? I do not understand this meme?

Memes are a ladder

you said you would get them to kill each other like littlefinger

going to be on the tfm show at 7pm pst

alright

ASSAULT TV DINNER TABLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcPrIi4J6dI

Disregard Females, Acquire Currency

fuck the central banks

fuck the fed

@everyone anyone have any questions for the tfm show? https://gab.ai/tv/watch/34513

i can just ask it in the show so no.

but hey

Dumpster fire questions?

anything

how hot's the fire?

I'm good. but thanks.

@Happy Humble Hermit You were going to discuss something at length with TFM, right? .... When would you like to step in?

@Oslo MGTOW i don't remember what it was lol when did i say that? I did have some questions about Celestina but I don't think this is the right format for that right now

@Happy Humble Hermit I thought, when you first came in, TFM said to _"Wait let's do these questions first."_

I just asked about his topics entering into the mainstream discussion through the always sunny show

Woot

Music time

thanks

@Happy Humble Hermit just in case you didnt see in youtube talk to samson first he was first

welp. guess its just me on hold now

@shadowlessnexus sorry man i forgot to open up the discord

np man.

my ideas are still here no hurry

right them down and next time we'll have a chat

you know it

Boys o/

@Happy Humble Hermit

I don't know where my previous comments went, bot is too aggressive. Love your work @Happy Humble Hermit 👌🏻

thanks man

well my audio is all fucked up in the last night's stream... i had to unplug my mic and use it on my laptop during the tfm show and i guess it changed some audio settings

I was late to the channel, will definitely check them out in the future

@Happy Humble Hermit You really think undead is hercules mgtow? I dunno, I listened to them both and they use totally different language

@eclipseNF 👌 same guy definitely

Herclues was created right after undead was taken down the first time

@Happy Humble Hermit Plus his "RIP Undead Chronic" video was pretty telling.

Trolls will troll.. amazing to what depraved lengths bl00pers and CultMars will go to

i just checked and undead chronic chronics channel got killed by youtube again. and hercules mgtow hasnt uploaded in like a month. so if hercules mgtow starts uploading again suddenly then i think its proven beyond any doubt

i think hermit is actually right to XDXD

"You give a man a gun he can rob a bank. You give a man a bank he can rob the world."

Russia is becoming red pilled

Happy hermit crab words are spreading

@Happy Humble Hermit you gonna do another call in tonight?

Who's interested to talk in voice chat? If you are interested, be sure to join 😉

@shadowlessnexus no stream tonight im going to work on some big videos for the week and catch up on sleep lol

Coolbeans.

@Happy Humble Hermit is male mentorship that beneficial to a younger man ? ps like the video

@extremeZ-TOWN thanks. and did you ever have a male mentor like a coach or a good teacher?

not real. My father is not much i my life either , and he is not the idea role model.

*ideal

@Happy Humble Hermit i have bean alone for most of my teens and young adult life i lived with my single mom for 9 years and i am doing a special program for independent students so that i can live alone.

Ok this has been going on in twitter for a few years. Why do people STILL do "Comment your name 🗣" on tweets?

Hey @Happy Humble Hermit ! I trying to improve my narration and my english. Can I narrate one of your videos with my voice? I just want to train.

Anybody in here?

Hmm.... Better not.

I willl narrate something else

@Kazemaru no you can't narrate one of my videos lol

If you guys want to read the saddest thing, google "Good Men Project Shy Man Dies Of Cancer Having Never Felt A Womans Loving Touch"

That sounds pretty sad.

it's a good motivator though

I don't know about.

well it talks about getting motivated and such

Do some of you listen to Mac miller? When i listen to the track "wings" i always feel like he wanted to go mgtow but got struck before he could overcome his demon.

I shall look into Mac Miller.

@Silveru I read the story it's really sad if he knew mgtow at least he would probably have died happily with his Hollywood dream accomplished

That feeling when your class gets canceled but you have another class later in the day so you are stuck on campus

Join the Chat Guys

@charles_1999 go off campus and watch a movie. That's what I've been doing this semester because i have a gap and i always schedule my classes back to back

@everyone if anyone has any suggestions or ideas for what to do with the website (happyhumblehermit.com) feel free to share. I decided against a forum because this discord serves that function. Right now it's just an archive for the scripts of the scripted videos.

@Happy Humble Hermit ....... turn it into a waifu reserve where all the waifus can roam free

...

Happy Join VC

@shadowlessnexus they are an endangered species and we must protect them

@ZODD i can't rn i hopped in on saturday

we need to get nukes to defend our waifus from russia

Aww

And the Chinese

and the eu

And Ajit pai

I say make a page with resources you found helpful and other MGTOW resources/links

All in favor say aye

all who oppose say nay

Aye

Hey @Happy Humble Hermit i would love to see a testimonial type of section, where people can write down their stories and why they found mgtow. I see you're using wordpress so people could theoretically categorize for reasons and so on. I would love to read the individual stories. I have a story on my own that dragged me thru alot of shit and would feel comforted in the brotherhood of likeminded

@Happy Humble Hermit Archive your videos there, with Bitchute. So whenever YouTube strikes or something, you'll already have your stuff still available for people to find.

this possibly could bring you more topic ideas and make us less prone to patterns in the dating world

@Mysteriedingens good suggestion, i was thinking that because i believe sunrise hoodie does that on his site

Upload Your Consciousness to your Website so We can talk to you 24/7

yeah have it be like that one black mirror episode

You nailed. Most goverments fuel their economys as a ponzi

Peharps, but most societies rely that next generation will help

But, it's not like most of us care for the collapse of society, right?

Or a collapse could backfire

That's a good question

Let's take a small example then: Detroit

Detroit used to have millions habitants, but many things happened to cause its collapse

A future collapse might be regional in several countries

There's going to be pockets and clusters of urbanization surrounded by ruins and decay of the golden times

To many things need to happen in a same place to cause collapse

Yes

I've studying the situation in Los Angeles for a few months and many folks in the tfm server agree that that place is heading to collapse

1. We don't know. 2. Everything 3. No, we have purifiers

<:pepefrog:480186120420851728>

- Infrastructure is ignored for the past 50 years and its starting to bite them in the ass,
- The lowering of "Knowingly and actual Malice to give another an STD" has been changed from Felony to Misdemeanor
- The environmental law to ban plastic bags has caused homeless to shit in the street with no other alternatives, causing Hepatitis outbreaks everywhere.
- Sanctuary City

San Francisco is a shit hole

www.indiedb.com/games/maze-qore

Does anyone Here, Have Red Pill Friends IRL. if So are they any Different than your Blue Pill Friends?

I have a couple, the only real difference I see is when I talk to them about things like women and relationships

I got one or two, but they sometimes show blue pill traits when hot women are around.

So.... No, I don't actually got red pill friends.

they're all blue as fuck

have you always been a mod zodd?

LOL, no @Silveru , My Hentai Got Me Fame and Power Here.