Just look who she's fucking behind his back.

yes lol

@ToastMcGhost Long live Civics 😉

Dont be mad guys i have nothing about fat guys

I like honda

lmao shido

appaerence doesnt matter, but just an example of a beta male

@ToastMcGhost Command and Conquer 4K is getting me LIT

I'm playing 7 Days to Die rn

It does matter, the average guy isn't super wealthy. You making money itself depends heavily on your looks Lol.

a man who take an honda or mazda car is a more clever man than other for me

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath Not really. I know a ton of engineers who are smelly, fat and terrible socially but make 6 figures.

@Shido Honda/Toyota for life 😉

me too, but they werent smelly, fat and socially bad

1 years ago i was making 6 figures

Lol. I am citing research whilst your suggesting anecdotes.

I'm only at 70-75k (with bonus) but I want to be making 6 figures by age 25-26.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath I don't see any papers listed.

I think looks AND money matter, but looks do play a role in your level of success in life

I can say that most of the men here are still married, divorce rates aren't shit, does that invalidate all of what MGTOW claim?

@machtyn what do you do like job?:O

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) Engineering in technology.

me too

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath No, but you're also in India, yes?

Niceee bro! Different field that i want to do tho, but nice

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath In India, I think the culture is a bit different but female nature is still on full display.

https://www.hofstra.edu/pdf/orsp_shahani-denning_spring03.pdf

Here you go, there is one research paper relating to that.

How long do you need to study for it? @machtyn @Shido

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) Yeah! I plan on jumping to 85k in the next year by 25th birthday and then hopefully 100k by 26.

I found another one but I can't find it now.

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) I have my 4 year BS degree BUT you may not need one depending on what you do.

Yeah, I know the situation India is in but I merely brought that up because of what anecdotes are worth.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath Thank you!

BS : Bullshit ?

India stigmatizes divorce and premarital sex, so yeah.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath Oh, I totally agree with you. If you're good looking you're going to get everything handed to you more than ugly people.

That's pretty much the reason why divorce rates are low.

@machtyn you are a nice example of when you study and work, you can make a comfortable living. Thanks for inspiring me and other young lads. I’m 19 btw

@WolfRetriever Yes 😉 Or Bachelor of Science

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) Good! Yes, I'm also very interested in personal finance and think I have it down pretty well so I'm down to chat about it with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEBOl6BjCt8

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) yes always if you study and work on the right field today, you can do it. But the dream of having wife, house, kids, green grass always cut well, wife really kind with u is a bullshit

work for you and care about women

@Shido yeah fuck a wife tbh. I want to do surgacy. Tbh by the age i hit 30 i think artificial wombs are alteady being used

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath also a girl with nice looking today have a lot lot lot of more chance to be hiring than one mroe skilled ...

@machtyn Finance is cool, but honestly i’m not made for finance imo. I find helping people and science of the human body way more interesting and i want to make a career as a medical specialist. 2more years before i can study med school.

Financial world is very though

The thing is that you don't even need looks, you can thank diversity hires.

i was in a lot of company (big and little)

they skip a lot of paper

and step

when she is very beautiful

beautiful women in the workplace is a nightmare

but yes

i agree 100000000000000000000000000000%

I think they are so valuable is because all the men compete through their work and production goes through the roof, while she sits back and does shit

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) I absolutely love it. I meant personal finance, as in, how to properly save/invest for yourself and living below your means so you can retire early. If you're becoming a doctor, you'll have a large salary and will be tempted to ball out but if you're smart you can ball out and retire really young. What made you choose medicine over engineering? I've always felt a love for people but I shadowed doctors/nurses and patient care is boring to me. I rather build things. The human body is the coolest system ever, though!

@Sigma she breaks men solidarity

this why

men act like dogs, and try to impress her

exactly that

It can turn everyone against one another though and it would be a disaster in the end

I was young and dont know about this, but i got in problems one time, because i saw her game, and she turn all my coworkers against me

they became suspicious about me lol

How did you get problems? by not playing her game?

i was a bit agressiv with her

because i didnt like the way she was doing her job

she puts the nice, innocent and poor girl filter

and turn all my coworkers against me

Got to be extra careful at work. Would you just aviod women as much as possible at work and give them little to no attention? or would that cause problems too?

If an attractive women worked in my department, I don't talk to her unless she talks to me

@Sigma I recently had a chat with a coworker who was called "creepy" by female coworkers. He's leaving for a new job out west because it affected his self esteem that much. He's one of our best engineers and he's letting a random comment from a woman affect him. It's sad. Before that, he was no lie dating a woman who was on twitch. She entered an open arrangement with him and then she left him months later.

My personal policy is - if it's not work related, I don't speak and get back to work.

These hoes ain't loyal

That's a good rule of thumb to operate on

Work related only, and stay away from them as much as possible

Yup.

This should be a more common topic in the MGTOW community tbh because I haven't seen too much about guidelines to working with women from a MGTOW perspective

@machtyn yeah you just perfectly described how handy finance is. I think every1 should get the base of finance, because it comes in so handy! Although i think Engineers are one of (if not the most) creative people there are, i don’t fit in that kind of creative. I tend to think that Engineers are like really good painters and i suck at painting i don’t consider myself creative in that context. Apart from that like complicated structures but it just doesn’t touch me as a whole. With that being said, i didn’t choose to do medicine to help people as primary reason. I think willing to help people is the base otherwise you won’t make a good physician. I choose medicine primarily because of the fact that i’m so hungry to learn more everyday and medicine offers me that oppurtunity. Then the fact that the human body is just so damn interesting i was occupied with it when i was 12. I remember when my mates were playing video games at highschool, whilst i was looking discection video’s🤣. Can you come to voice chat? I can’t really explain what it means for me to become a dokter typing it

It's simple on the surface level, but it can go into a deep level of social game at work

So many variables to consider

@Sigma I hope it's addressed too. I personally work in a big-4 finance company within tech department and I am lucky because when people come to me its for my knowledge/help. I am a consult essentially so it's usually on point. I set boundaries early on with no personal chit-chat and always bring conversations back to the thing they wanted done.

I'll have to keep that in mind, those boundaries can save you a hell of a lot of trouble down the road

Sorry for my English guys, it isn’t my 1 language haha

We spend sometimes more than 1/3 of our lives working, so this is important

1/3rd actually sounds like an underestimation of it.

That's being generous because if you work only 8 hours per day

sleep 8

the rest is up to you

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) I totally understand that. The exact same reason is why I didn't enter medicine. I was taking some biology/chemistry and realized there isn't really any room for creation - it's mostly recitation/absorption of the body of knowledge. I rather BUILD then analyze.

You have to consider that you are tired as shit from work that you're not really going to as much.

Lol.

That too

When you get older and older, it's easier to tire out as well.

I noticed when I'm out of work, I don't want to do anything whatsoever

@Sigma I've been feeling that way more and more 😭

It fucking sucks, because I want to pursue hobbies

@machtyn i want to add to that brother, DON’T be a docter because of the money. Like every job you do for the money and not because you like it, you’ll be miserable in the end. The lifestyle of a medical specislist sucks too not your regular 9 to 5, i know this, but i’m willing to proceed anyways. Honestly i don’t see me doing something else

I'm not here to only work and sleep, I got other ambitions to chase as well

@Sigma I've been trying something a little odd... I've been going to bed at 8-9pm and waking up at 4-5am. I work on projects until 8-9am, go to work, get home at 4-5pm then chill until i go to bed -- sometimes being productive but usually goofing off.

@machtyn woah you gave me chills, you’ve got my respect. It’s very important that you know for yourself what suits you the best. Good luck with your very young career i’m sure you’ll make a heck of a engineer with so long to go

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) See... I am jealous of you, brother. I wish I KNEW my ONE THING. I know it's technology/engineering related. I guess I have that going for me. I just don't know "I wouldn't want to do anything else." Don't take that lightly. You have a gift!

Dude, I've woken up at like 2-3AM before work to do things like read, play games, youtube, go to the gym, BUT my major problem is that MMA is at 7:30 PM at night, so it's nearly impossible to get there because of work in the morning and absolutely no energy

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) Yes! I plan on advancing until senior engineer but once they start asking me to become management - I will bounce to work as a consultant - making bank.

@Sigma Fuck... yeah, that's not going to work then

plus i'm wired from all the adrenaline at night from training

can't fall asleep

@Sigma Yup, this is why I stopped working out at night.

I can't sleep when I workout 5-8pm.

I love morning workouts

I'm hooked on martial arts though, it's my favorite physical hobby

@machtyn follow your dream bro. As a parent i’d be proud of you no jokes haha. Today’s generation is PATHETIC...

Respect @machtyn

@machtyn when you visit The Netherlands, don’t go to Amsterdam. For buildings and structures you should go to Rotterdam. They call it the Dutch Manhattan. You’ll adore it as engineer

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) I appreciate it 😃 I actually was raised by a single mom who I cut out of my life at 16, lol. I am just grateful and ready to keep going.

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) Oh wow, I actually have a friend - network engineer - who just married a woman from the netherlands. I never understood why she would leave. It seems like a wonderful country.

@Sigma I'm very basic in greco-roman wrestling/bjj/boxing so I understand it. I personally am a cheap bastard so $100-200/mo isn't worth it for me. I rather just be in good shape, able to handle a pistol/shotgun/rifle/knife and basic MMA principles.

I have no intention of competing yet. Once I have $300k invested, I will give myself a break to splurge a bit.

I've thought about that too. If you're big from lifting people are less likely to attack you anyways

if they do, they'll get hurt

100-200 per month is not cheap whatsoever

@machtyn ahh sad to hear that buddy, i too was raised by a single mother still am kind of haha but what i’m trying to say is you did good, look where you’re at now 😁. Well Netherlands imo is the best country in europe to live in, im french/dutch, raise in The Netherlands. But the problem is it has so many rules it drives you crazy

Command & Conquer 4k? About fucking time 🔥🔥🔥 I *le sigh* about C&C at least once a month.

@Sigma Yeah, I am not going for a bodybuilding. I just want to be ripped. I follow crossfit type workouts.

@MufflePuff YES

Letterly you need permission for everything

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) That's sad 😦 I'd 100% have a hunting rifle permit.

@Sigma Yes, all the local dojos/academies are $100-200/mo so I just can't do it, lol.

I used to do Athlean-X workouts, similar to crossfit in some ways, but it's a strength and conditioning program that gets in into peak athletic shape

@Sigma YES! I grew up doing beachbody/athleanx

Expensive to do martial arts.

Bro Splits and cardio is getting me ripped.

I love AX...if I do any program, it's from Jeff

I was RIPPED at 16-19 then I started working full time and got real fucking lazy. I have a 4 pack now 😦 I need to work on this shit.

Increased the cardio recently. And watching sodium intake, and drinking a gallon of water per day.

@MufflePuff Nice!

What do you do for cardio?

Hahah

sex

Athlean-X is the best fitness channel hands down. I like Pumpchasers too.

He fucks harems of women.

Many sex

Like... many women.

Much fuck.

WOW

lmao

i am mad

really mad

Has anyone done AX NXT?

Don't be mad, you can fuck women too.

No!

Whatsup @Shido ?

women

I saw that though, you suggest it @Sigma?

Life is too short to be angry bro

@Shido You're going to need to be more SPECIFIC 😄

Dude, NXT got me into the best shape i'll probably ever be in, in my entire life

not even kidding

Thinking of seeing Ralph Breaks The Internet in a few 🧐

always women, my toilets are broken, evacuation is the same that the women living next door

@Shido what about the wahmens bruh bruh?

His conditioning workouts are called Burst workouts, and the first one "Hang Ten" put my body into a stake of shock because it was so intense

and the burst workouts get more and more intense

not to mention all the lifting techniques he uses

Best time of my life in the gym

the owner told me she is stupid she throw wipes in toilets

Baby wipes?

women wipes

dont know the name in enligh

the think where they can get some blood

maxi pads

Ooohhhh

@Shido HAHAHHAHA

She threw her pads in the toilet?

Oi vey.

Ohhh

yes

Don’t they all do that shit?

Her menstruation thing?

Women throw everything in the toilet and wonder why shit stops working 😉

That’s why the water is fucked up

You're SUPPOSED to throw it in a trash bag.

I feel for civil engineers. I bet their entire day jobs are unclogging women.

Lol she didn’t used a tampon?🤣🤣

I want to make a sexualized version of tampons lol.

this why they put a fucking trash back next to the toilets !!!!!!

Like dildo tampons.

serious

Someone in Hermit’s Roundtable chat was going on about period blood in the water.

ffs

Hahaha yeah, my ex used those @machtyn

@MufflePuff I mean... birth control isn't processed out with our water filtration.

Tis wut tit tis

If you seriously think drinking water with birth control isn't affecting testosterone you're dumb 😄

That's probably why I'm tired a lot of the time. I drink tap water

fuckin my whole shit up

Neeeeever drink tap

serious i consider moving to a new appartement again

I want a reverse osmosis water filter

My plan right now is this: study 2 more hard years before i go to med school and monkmode. That means in the meanwhile i pump and dump cuz it’s all the same in the end. Women don’t want nice guys, im the proof of that. When i’m done studying at age 28/30 i work and save for surgoracy. And i hope my mother still lives, then she can help me take care of the kids so the kids have a female figure to look to. Isn’t that perfect?

To look up to**

Pump & Dump while in med school?

Or before

before brother

Just make sure you tell them you work at McDonalds

Hahahahaha that’s actually genius😂😂

And that McDonalds is a great long-term career

I’m laughing my ass of irl haha but the best way to make them run away

Even if you wear condoms and pull out but even MENTION med school, they will get pregnant by Chad and claim it as yours.

If you really want them to run away, be nice to them

works like a charm

Or you could just tell them you’re visiting from out of the country. Pump and dump.

Luckily the only way in The Netherlands the only way to let someone pay for alimony is by DNA evidence

Get a fake ID from like Iceland.

Fuck my english sorry

Lol it okei

Really? Nice.

I ment the only way for a women here to get alimoney trough some1 is by mariage or proving that the child is yours

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) Excellent plan. I personally am living with 2 women and 2 men currently but I move out in the next MONTH! I am quite excited. Just this morning, the one female locked her own bathroom and woke me up demanding I unlock it. Apparently she doesn't know what flathead screwdrivers are so I did it. The entire time she was freaking out because she had to work, woke up late and now couldn't get ready. I am in monk mode now and plan on staying in it for as long as I can, lol.

Without that they can’t claim shit

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) Yes, that's excellent!

I'm hardwired to be nice to people, so that means I don't get many women.

@machtyn Munk mode is life, lol

I’d still claim myself as a foreigner. I may use that if I ever dip my dick back into the dating cesspool.

Hahahaha you legend, i gotta add you as friend. Please becareful she don’t manipulate or use your kindness against you. Women now a days are capable of anything. Hell they even lie about rape to get what they want

@Sigma Yeah, my single mom tried to wire me that way. Thankfully, I woke up early and emancipated myself at 16. Now, I don't give a fuck.

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) That's the main reason I am moving out... false shit and less drama.

Plus, I've never lived alone.

lool

i can relate i was with 1 boy a 3 girls when i worked in ireland

the hell

peace is a unicorn

I was a shit troublemaking kid, but society eventually won and submitted me into being polite

@Shido Damn.

Living alone is the ultimate peace I pray I never have to go back

But I can't blame anyone other than myself in reality

@Sigma Embrace the fuckface you once were. Become the dick.

Now I give people respect until they disrespect me

@Reaper Yes?! I am so happy to be moving out. I fought over it way too long.

if they do that I either avoid them or give a little bit of shit back

The only reason I live with others is for cheaper rent. Literally only reason. It's not worth it 😉

the key is fearlessness. Being Nice is rooted in fear

Yes, the fear of the unknown.

The most disturbing thing about living with women is the drama. It’s like they don’t like quiteness. I grew up with a women for 19 years so i seen all the behaviors, from manuilating to playing as victim to achieve a goal. I think being raised by a single mother makes me see trough women in an instant

Usually trained in you at a young age.

MMA teaches fearlessness because You'll get shit from the other guys and who cares if they can fuck you up

@CoffeeShopsHQ (Ardahan) YES

give shit back

@machtyn yes you will love it I think it's is super healthy, especially for someone who is mgtow