@secrite do you know What is the longest fast humans are recommended to?

this is why nofap is dumb if your not trying to overcome a porn addiction

@felldie1496 No idea.

squat or medidate

beating off is useless

imo

I think I tried nofap for like three days and then decided.... I want to watch porn, this is stupid.

@secrite There's not much of a real benefit to fasting beyond 2-4 days.

It is of use - I don't have to so horny all the time.

@felldie1496 I watched a video where a guy said that around day 4 you will notice that you don't even get hungry. He said stick with it until the hunger returns and then slowly introduce calories again like with a little apple juice slowly working back up to food.

Now I fap like twice a week..

And the more prolonged the fast the more health risks you incur.

but he said your body will tell you when

Unless you mean "cessation of masturbation"

wojak

have you fasted?

I did an extended fast before I came across that info and got very nervous on day 4 when I noticed that I was not in the least bit hungry so I ate.

People are scared of fasting.

Yes.

have you any anecdotal experience

@Lilu I'll test it from tomorrow on

@Wojak For food fasting, do you happen to know the name of the study that tells you the benefits in the 2-4 day period?

Look

Fap once a day, don't think too much about it and be happy

That's it

I'm looking for it.

oh

One guy did a very meticulous analysis of his blood sugar over a prolonged period of fasting I wanted to find.

so you're speaking out of your ass ?

It's....I have it somewhere?

@Wojak i found an article

No, I have tons of publications I save.

look it up in shitposting

And as a result I lose them.

It's irritating as fuck.

I understand.

blood sugar

of course insul levels will be low

If its too much trouble just skip it.

tahts because the sugre has been used up

liver glycogen levels as well

Fasting is great for reducing inflammation also related to insulin inflammatory effects - and immune system regulation.

thats how the body goes into ketosis

only when those levels are depleted

yes

However, there are more risks with prolonged fasting due to cardiovascular stress. If you have any health problems at all, this could be an issue.

Same goes for maintenance of electrolytes. You can induce a stroke in sensitive individuals.

look at the popoulation

most ppl are sickly

so then I will continue to limit it to no more than 4 days?

of course

most people are terriblyt unhealthy they're fat ficls

is this a open discussion on the super sayin benefits of no fap pua

when the mean is obesity what should one expect?

If you fast _without_ maintaining electrolytic balance there are very severe consequences that could arise, including heart arrhythmia that may lead to a heart attack for people with underlying conditions.

I said it before, make sure to take minerals

scroll up

thanks for the info gents. I have to run to my mom's house. TTYL.

I'm still trying to find the one guy who did a meticulous monitoring of his blood sugar.

Fuck me if I can find it

who cares about blood sugar

My problem is that when I fast I tend to have lower energy, lower stress tolerance, and my body just starts inclining me to do things to save energy (12 hour sleeping per day, take a warm bath rather than heating myself)
The lack of ability to do productive work and the loss of mood do not seem worth it without some serious health benefits. At best I will do a 1 day fast on a slower day just to reduce my overall calorie intake.

@Wojak you should refer to medical studies. Anyone can claim anything online.

Nnnnnoooot relevant to what I wanted to use it for.

you guys ever seen those red pill rings?

Primarily when I say fasting for prolonged (week+) periods has substantial risk IS related to medical studies.

But I also wanted to mention something else, and I can't find the fucker now.

God damn it.

anyway

I don't really fast for more than 3 days at a time because I need to squat

FOUND HIM

nvm, you guys are in a different dimension right now

and I cant squat effectively otherwise

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon I've seen the ads, but never in real life.

hunger

likely ghrelin

Hunger peaks around day 3-4 (as he also notes) and tapers off - but AFTER the fast your blood glucose goes insane.

@MufflePuff https://www.redpillring.com/c/rings looks like something I'd buy if money wasnt a concern

prolly the 1st time this person fasted

and experiencing ghrelin expression

The longer the fast the more extreme the insulin-glucose dysregulation.

And this is one datapoint I wanted to share to visually demonstrate it.

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon WTF, I had no idea that's the price.

That's expensive af

I'd rather just buy a MGTOW beanie.

MGTOW isnt full of tony starks just yet, lol

fat adaptatoin

he was in ketosis after hour 36 or so

Yes, this is also useful to visually see an approximation of the process.

It's not population representative but it's a neat visualization of the general idea.

and did he suppleent his water with slta

salts*

I literally went grocery shopping earlier. Just cut open a mango. I asked for boneless mangoes but there was this wishbone looking thing in it wtf.

cant trust these supermarkets

I didn't know mangos had bones.

unless you grow your own food, good luck

I know boneless pizza is a black twitter meme but this happened to me

farmers markets are okay, typically

Lmao boneless pizza.

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon Just buy a fake wedding ring and ghost as a simp

right? lol

Unless someone someone did surgery on a mango

Like they did to that grape

Anyway, primary medical concern here with prolonged fasts like a week or more is the longer the absence of food the worse the compensatory dysregulation becomes.

Refeeding syndrome is real and very dangerous.

@Wojak Since you probably can't post the image or a link to the study in here. Feel free to PM it to me.

I would never pay that much money for a MGTOW ring. Wearing MGTOW paraphernalia seems risky anyway honestly.

boneless pizza is my favorite

I did link it

ordered it yesterday

Welp

lolol

>MGTOW ring

Wtf

mornin fellas

imgur /a/yN4QtU9

I think server autoremoves em

ah sweet

going to bed at 4 A.M then waking up at noon is weird

But no, seriously, _look up refeeding syndrome_.

*excuse me what?*

A MGTOW ring sounds like another cringe variant of a purity ring

@TruceAU doesnt seem like such a bad idea to me, lol

Week+ fasts are perfect candidates for the symptoms of it and they can progress, in extremes, to being fatal.

I just wouldnt pay 1000 bucks for one

It just doesn't look worthy of $575. Maybe $50.

Case in point: hypophosphataemia.

This is what relates to the heart dysfunctions I mentioned.

The longer your fast the more these problems build up.

_Intermittent_ fasting is great.

@Wojak WTF is with his wildly varied exertion heart rate? I suspect he just does different exercises since the cluster of drops are a week apart, but that scared me a bit.

Prolonged fasting gets more dangerous.

like I said, no more than like 3 days

No!

That's the result of his fast!

gotta eat those carbs to keep the squat game real

36 hours is my fast limit.

The longer the fast the more arrhythmia you get.

Often beginning with tachycardia (clinically elevated resting heart rate)

And abnormal response to exertion with prolonged tachycardia on cessation.

Does anyone here have a home gym?

Well he had a similar cluster on the same days before the fast.

I started working out at home.

@Roko if you do, lemme come use it

ab wheel and resistance bands

Im looking at both saturdays.

yoga mat

@Roko I want one. It would be bench, squat rack, barbell plates, olympic bars, pullup bar, dip bar and rowing machine!

@Darkness How do you pull women with a yoga mat?

lol

probably easily

they as me for my number

But I do see your point as there is definitely other stuff being weird outside of that range. Just the similarity suggests to me he maybe does a lighter exercise or non-cardio on saturday.

had this snow bunny hit me w/ the "you never game me youre number"

I said "I know"

@secrite Nice. I'm thinking of getting that for the compounds lifts and such or an all-in-one solution for about 500-600 Euros

Also, refeeding syndrome is real. Mainly in part due to the wild dysregulation of blood glucose and insulin, you experience elevated resting BPM that in longer fasts or more extreme absences of food will result in tachycardia as well.

look on her face was priceless

There's no benefit to prolonged fasting and only risks.

the only people who want my number are scam callers, lol

@Roko Wow, that's cheap! I was thinking $1-2k for all I priced out.

2-3 days doesn't appear risky for a healthy person at all.

A week? Two? You're asking for trouble.

@Wojak It depends on what you eat when you refeed.

Ask a doctor, they'll tell you the same thing.

according to their education

If you strictly adhere to the treatment schedule to _treat_ starvation to avoid refeeding syndrome, yes, you can mitigate the effects.

But that does not _eliminate_ the risk.

you're forgetting that they're educated bu people who want to keep you sick

@Wojak I will fast for at least one solid week this week so I will let you know 😄

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@Darkness Do you think doctors never read a study or look at evidence?

I watched a video of a scam caller trying to take the life savnigs of a old man who needed to have life threatening surgery, how are these 3rd world sub humans so heartless

You'll probably be fine. Probably.

But it's against my advice and I guarantee no doctor would sanction that.

of course they do

None I've ever spoken to have.

all studies are not created equal

Yes, Darkness, that's why you learn to evaluate their merits by becoming familiar with the field and research.

@Wojak I will be random data point that means nothing for you 😉

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Wojak, i wanted to ask you about corporal punishment for political corruption

it seems the neolibs and neocons are determined to screw you guys over and make sure to pinch every penny they can from the tax payer

that medical complex is real

you try curing cancer? good luck

you'll get assassinated

You can drastically reduce your risk of cancer. Exercise, don't be fat, don't smoke, and don't drink. And eat a lot of fiber in vegetables.

Also that's a conspiracy theory feel free to prove it.

i you think they're for the betterment, you're a fool

you're a fool

@Wojak

Calling me a fool isn't evidence.

Just saiyan.

you're right

i do think there is an incentive to keep the population obese and dependent on government

@Wojak You don't need fiber if you don't eat veg/fruit/grains.

but if you think they're in our side your sadly mistaken

Uh

Yeah

You do

Nope.

If all you ate was animal product you don't need fiber.

T_T;;

One of the hideous problems with the notion of an all-meat diet is it's probably the single biggest risk for colon cancer conceivable.

eat seeds

i rarely eat meat, in fact i only eat once the craving arises

otherwise i try to avoid it

Seeds = the most fiberous part of fruit

Can I _please_ get link permission

Because what Secrite said is abhorrently false.

And I have data on this.

actually i heard some seeds can be posionous

@Wojak <#514930508363202561>

A LOT of it.

wojak,

Rules say 24 hours though, Kragt.

You can also PM a mod or admin.

I just got here today :V

studies all over the world if cancer cures

_IN VITRO_

why isn't it okay in the US?

Sorry I can't help.

@Wojak You can DM him, you probably cant get meme privilege quickly

_You can cure cancer with vitamin C in vitro_

_It doesn't work IN VIVO_

BLEACH cures cancer in vitro

99.99% of "cancer cure" proposals are all in vitro studies.

That's why they _don't work_ in clinical or animal trials.

There's no conspiracy here. Hopefully this clarifies things.

nope

you understand how cancer cells feed?

I don't want meme privileges per se, I just want to be able to link relevant citations.

kinder bueno cures my depression

Yes. Generally glycogen metabolism, but some cancers actually don't rely on this.

@Wojak Sometimes you just got to let the stupid be as stupid does. PM's are the best option right now.

@Kragt who hurt you

Hence why keto or low-carb diets _may_ (emphasis on may) be a very good overall cancer risk reduction.

@Wojak Can you DM me all the studies you have?

and why are you so quick to drop vocab such as conspiracy

Which ones, Secrite?

Because, Darkness, you alleged a conspiracy.

@Darkness You litereally described a conspiracy.

@Wojak The carnivore is not ideal ones.

you need meme privelages to post any kind of link

well

"Conspiracy" is a concept, it doesn't imply that it's true or false, but you're not evidencing the claim.

you've been indoctrinated, nothing else I can say realy

That's not evidence.

It's _another_ assertion, and a fallacy.

@secrite I'll send you the meta-analysis on meat consumption and colorectal cancer risk.